An outsider watching the US health care debate

Why should US Citizens give a fuck what some Canadian foreigners think of OUR COUNTRY'S health care system? All of you Canadian knuckle-draggers can go fuck yourselves, for all I care. Take your Socialism, your shitty health care, your arrogant anti-USA sentiments, your Hockey, your Lacrosse, your shit eating, French speaking, Quebec province, and any other useless thing your nowhere country is known for, and shove it up your sorry asses. 8)

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Originally Posted by Belial

Why should US Citizens give a fuck what some Canadian foreigners think of OUR COUNTRY'S health care system? All of you Canadian knuckle-draggers can go fuck yourselves, for all I care. Take your Socialism, your shitty health care, your arrogant anti-USA sentiments, your Hockey, your Lacrosse, your shit eating, French speaking, Quebec province, and any other useless thing your nowhere country is known for, and shove it up your sorry asses. 8)

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aww he loves us.

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Originally Posted by jaycanuck

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Originally Posted by Belial

Why should US Citizens give a fuck what some Canadian foreigners think of OUR COUNTRY'S health care system? All of you Canadian knuckle-draggers can go fuck yourselves, for all I care. Take your Socialism, your shitty health care, your arrogant anti-USA sentiments, your Hockey, your Lacrosse, your shit eating, French speaking, Quebec province, and any other useless thing your nowhere country is known for, and shove it up your sorry asses. 8)

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aww he loves us.

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If it makes you feel any better Jay, I happen to love hockey.

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Originally Posted by duplicatt

Moreover, Canadian hospitals do not get enough funding to do all of the bone marrow transplants that are indicated.

Every system has its own drawbacks.

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You're right...we don't get enough funding. But if you lived here in the 90s you would know that that's the fault of a Conservative government who slashed more than just health care. We're still trying to fix his mess. Unfortunately he didn't listen to his voters.

According to an article I found Ontario performs 70 out of the 120 surgeries per year that need to be performed. Considering each surgery is between $200,000 - $500,000 that's pretty good. And as I said before, I would be willing to pay a lot more tax to make sure that that number of surgeries is bumped up. Read back a bit...you'd know that.

Although in the States you can go from state to state to get shorter wait lists, the fact is you still have wait lists in the States. It's 16,000 people for a liver transplant? In both cases (liver and bone marrow) the major issue is donations.

In short, the ability for any Canadian to go to a hospital for treatment any time in his life (here it comes..) FREE OF CHARGE (i'll wait for the..."you pay taxes, it's not free") is totally worth the cost in taxes.

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58% is really good?

What you want is irrelevant. I want a lot of things. What is available to you is what matters.

As for 'FREE OF CHARGE', I know a guy on Medicaid & VA here in the States. He gets everything 'FREE OF CHARGE', too.

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Originally Posted by Dirky

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Originally Posted by jaycanuck

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Originally Posted by Belial

Why should US Citizens give a fuck what some Canadian foreigners think of OUR COUNTRY'S health care system? All of you Canadian knuckle-draggers can go fuck yourselves, for all I care. Take your Socialism, your shitty health care, your arrogant anti-USA sentiments, your Hockey, your Lacrosse, your shit eating, French speaking, Quebec province, and any other useless thing your nowhere country is known for, and shove it up your sorry asses. 8)

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aww he loves us.

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If it makes you feel any better Jay, I happen to love hockey.

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lol. Thanks. Speaking of..where's Gretzky? Is he waiting until all this Phoenix Coyote stuff passes?

Why should U.S.citizens give a flying fuck about what some shitfaced right wing radical, paranoid, unpatriotic coward fears about healthcare?

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Originally Posted by duplicatt

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Originally Posted by jaycanuck

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Originally Posted by duplicatt

Moreover, Canadian hospitals do not get enough funding to do all of the bone marrow transplants that are indicated.

Every system has its own drawbacks.

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You're right...we don't get enough funding. But if you lived here in the 90s you would know that that's the fault of a Conservative government who slashed more than just health care. We're still trying to fix his mess. Unfortunately he didn't listen to his voters.

According to an article I found Ontario performs 70 out of the 120 surgeries per year that need to be performed. Considering each surgery is between $200,000 - $500,000 that's pretty good. And as I said before, I would be willing to pay a lot more tax to make sure that that number of surgeries is bumped up. Read back a bit...you'd know that.

Although in the States you can go from state to state to get shorter wait lists, the fact is you still have wait lists in the States. It's 16,000 people for a liver transplant? In both cases (liver and bone marrow) the major issue is donations.

In short, the ability for any Canadian to go to a hospital for treatment any time in his life (here it comes..) FREE OF CHARGE (i'll wait for the..."you pay taxes, it's not free") is totally worth the cost in taxes.

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58% is really good?

What you want is irrelevant. I want a lot of things. What is available to you is what matters.

As for 'FREE OF CHARGE', I know a guy on Medicaid & VA here in the States. He gets everything 'FREE OF CHARGE', too.

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so what about the waiting list. Missed that bit. But you don't have to answer if you don't want. I can just see this going back and forth.

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ummm Trish isn't Canadian.

I'm a tax paying American you nitwit, one who, along with the majority of Americans, voted last fall for a healthcare reform with a substantial public option.