Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza 1/1/09

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Originally Posted by fred41

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Question 911

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What a surprise.

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Norad just happened to stand down for an hour and watch theplane smack into the Pentagon?? What a surprise. You see, its all about rallying the masses for war; always has been

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Originally Posted by El Nino

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Originally Posted by fred41

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Question 911

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What a surprise.

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Norad just happened to stand down for an hour and watch theplane smack into the Pentagon?? What a surprise. You see, its all about rallying the masses for war; always has been

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Of course...you're right. That's the only possible explanation. I don't know why I didn't see that before. Glad you cleared that up. :roll:

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Originally Posted by seanchai

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Originally Posted by Border80

Some of the responses on here disgust me. The Hamas are a bunch of animals using civilians as cover who ALLOW it to occur, then you get angry with Israel for defending itself? It's ridiculous. Try talking to someone who is actually in the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) and learning about what the Palestinians actually do that is NOT reported in our media, you may have a different view after that.

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Try talking to some of the British forces when the IRA was killing women and children (and soldiers) - and funds were being collected for the IRA on the streets of NYC.

Try talking to the German occupying army when the French Resistance were killing and bombing their soldiers.

Try talking to a Vietnam vet when the Vietcong were killing their friends.

I'm not making direct comparisons between these conflicts but my point is, obviously the IDF has a skewered view - and the Palestinians a different one. Yet many innocents are being caught in the middle and the strikes that Israel have taken seem to be taking down more innocents, than legitimate targets.
A little restraint.

Arnie, it's got ZERO to do with being leftist - that's a pathetic and sad comment for people who don't want to see innocent civilians caught in the crossfire of any war. Absolutely pathetic and shows your ignorance.

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Don't make me out to be the bad guy son, . I read the post you made three down on the first page . I find it cringeworthy that after your inital polarising comment , you then make that statement above too me.Doesn't show you in a good light at all.

And it is relevant mentioning the left. The left certainly in the UK have the Pallys as some kind of cause celebre which I find 'ignorant' and 'pathetic'. You only have to read some of the other threads in the Politics section on this forum to see the majority of posters are of the left wing persuasion.Those who are of the centre to right wing are shouted down and called stupid and ignorant on a regular basis. I would have thought it would be welcomed to have people of different viewpoints posting there but sadly as is common with those of left or fascist beliefs the people of your ilk just cannot tolerate it mentally.

Speaking of the Politics and religion section why isn't this load of drivvel in there? Don't seem much mention of arses and penis's.

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Israel is doing this now because they won't be able to in less than 3 weeks. Barack will not allow the Middle East to head down this path of destruction.

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you are kidding right? they have been killing each other for a lot longer than the USA has even been around. :roll:

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Originally Posted by ef9hatchman

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Originally Posted by muhmuh

how about we remind ourselfs how terrorism started in that region?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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disagree on thats when it started. there have been terrorist for thousands of years.

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iirc it was at the time the deadliest terrorist attack in history and certainly set the tone for the future of that region
either way the point is both sides are terrorists one fighting with modern military equipment funded by us tax dollars and the other side fighting with sticks and stones

Fuck Religion. This shit is all over holy land, God, and who's version is better. Two assholes in a backlot arguing over something stupid and one of them gets killed. Same shit, different back lot.

It made me sick to see those little kids laying there dead or wounded. All for what? Because his god is better that yours? Fuck you all. I'm so fed up with these pre-historic asshole countries continuing to live like this, and whats worse, I'm totally sick of the US taking sides. I don't care if Hamas is in one Town and it makes us feel justified to fight against them. If we want Hamas gone, we can go in there with Intel and ground troops, smart bombs and real targets and do it ourselves. Lets get the fuck out of Iraq already and go do something worthwhile overthere.

Or better yet, bring our boys the fuck home and let those assholes deal with themselves. I'm going to mirror a bit of what Danielle said early in this thread. I feel sick to be a human being when stuff like this comes to light. And being an american, I'm tired of the government sending aid to people and places that have no merit or bearing on how we as americans need to live.

Send aid to africa and other regions where people are starving and cannot help themselves. Go fight warlords who are practicing genocide on a daily basis. Do something real, take back peace for those who desire it, who just want to live and raise their families without fear.

But for those who fight with religion in their hearts and god on their shoulder, I say let them play by themselves. They'll all either kill each other off, or maybe, just maybe, when enough of their babies have died, and the craziest of their zealots have been killed, reason, NOT religion, will take over. One never knows, do one . . .

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Originally Posted by flabeeboi

that video says from 2005! why is everyone blaming israel.

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It's already been pointed out that the original deaths in the opening video, were caused by the stupidity of Hamas. Not Israel. I didn't notice it at first either, because I skimmed through the video real quick. praetor seemed to present it as an Israeli attack. (Probably by mistake) That's what's causing a lot of confusion in this thread.

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Originally Posted by fred41

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Originally Posted by El Nino

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Originally Posted by fred41

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Question 911

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What a surprise.

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Norad just happened to stand down for an hour and watch theplane smack into the Pentagon?? What a surprise. You see, its all about rallying the masses for war; always has been

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Of course...you're right. That's the only possible explanation. I don't know why I didn't see that before. Glad you cleared that up. :roll:

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LMAO at a certain truther and conspiracy wingnut who spews ridiculous paranoid theories and links in each and every thread about current events... :roll:

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Originally Posted by muhmuh

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Originally Posted by ef9hatchman

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Originally Posted by muhmuh

how about we remind ourselfs how terrorism started in that region?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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disagree on thats when it started. there have been terrorist for thousands of years.

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iirc it was at the time the deadliest terrorist attack in history and certainly set the tone for the future of that region
either way the point is both sides are terrorists one fighting with modern military equipment funded by us tax dollars and the other side fighting with sticks and stones

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Ok now I understand why you posted :lol:

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Originally Posted by needsum

Fuck Religion. This shit is all over holy land, God, and who's version is better. Two assholes in a backlot arguing over something stupid and one of them gets killed. Same shit, different back lot.

It made me sick to see those little kids laying there dead or wounded. All for what? Because his god is better that yours? Fuck you all. I'm so fed up with these pre-historic asshole countries continuing to live like this, and whats worse, I'm totally sick of the US taking sides. I don't care if Hamas is in one Town and it makes us feel justified to fight against them. If we want Hamas gone, we can go in there with Intel and ground troops, smart bombs and real targets and do it ourselves. Lets get the fuck out of Iraq already and go do something worthwhile overthere.

Or better yet, bring our boys the fuck home and let those assholes deal with themselves. I'm going to mirror a bit of what Danielle said early in this thread. I feel sick to be a human being when stuff like this comes to light. And being an american, I'm tired of the government sending aid to people and places that have no merit or bearing on how we as americans need to live.

Send aid to africa and other regions where people are starving and cannot help themselves. Go fight warlords who are practicing genocide on a daily basis. Do something real, take back peace for those who desire it, who just want to live and raise their families without fear.

But for those who fight with religion in their hearts and god on their shoulder, I say let them play by themselves. They'll all either kill each other off, or maybe, just maybe, when enough of their babies have died, and the craziest of their zealots have been killed, reason, NOT religion, will take over. One never knows, do one . . .

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WOW you sir need to read up more you sound alot like Kaiti....They have been fighting over LAND for thousands of years. If you think about it, The british government can be to blame.I only say this because when they took the land from the TURKS in 1917 its when the conflict over LAND started between these indivuals.