The term transsexual...why doesn't it apply to me?

my last post in this thread:

A) I can only speak for myself, but I cant see myself beeing attracted to TS only. that whole concept seems rather odd to me, but whatever floats your boat....

B) also in this thread an old HA-favourite turns up: "why am I atrracted to TS?"

for me personally, its more of a "cultural" (or "sociological") thing. I was and I am still fascinated by the massiv change that is to be seen with many TS. the massiv change in physical appearance that is.

another factor always was that TS are often outcasts, and I am usually "in with the out-crowd" - I just mistrust "mainstream"-culture on many levels.

the sexual aspect plays a role too, I am not ashamed to admit I like anal-sex - on the active part. I ve been intimate with two TS-chicks so far, and in both cases the girls penis was a non-issue. oral was me rimming.
so, that obsession with cocks which is on display on his site is a bit odd to me, I cant really relate to it. (and that cock-obsession goes both ways, as in the "cock-bandits" and in the girls who tend to say "men only want me due to the fact I have a cock" - dont get me wrong, do whatever you like, I am not throwing stones at anybody of you, its just not understandable for me)

I am sure there are more guys than me on this board or have a (rather) positive attitude towards TS similar to mine.

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Originally Posted by Coroner

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Originally Posted by SmashysmashY

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Originally Posted by Coroner

I won´t laugh at you, I think your thaughts are interesting. I just don´t agree with them.

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that's fine but you should know that when you disagree with facts you are either misinformed or in denial.

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In Austria, a person is classified as transsexual after the psychiatrist confirms it. After that, the medical insurance pays all the surgeries the person undergoes. This means that a transsexual person is recognized as being in the wrong body and gets the support to look outside the way it feels inside. Science has broken the societal rules a long time ago and you can´t compare the position of science from about 50 years ago to it´s present position.

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psychiatry is not a science because there is no control group. the person still has a y chromosome no matter how much surgery they get. and just from a common sense standpoint if you have a dick in your mouth or butt you have clearly crossed the line between man and gay-man. sorry.

Hi e,


there actually is a medical/psychiatric name for the propensity to be attracted to transwomen, it is gynandromorphophilia, so you would be a "gynandromorphophile", granted it's a bit of a mouthful and not quite as catchy as "tranny chaser". I think Ray Blanchard came up with it and it is used in some circles. Personally I think you could do with something a little bit pithier and agree that most current names have a pejorative bent to them. I assume this is mainly due to most people (straight, gay and even some ts's) believing that there is something inherently wrong with you finding ts's(mainly/exclusively) sexually attractive. I doubt many people seek professional help to deal with their sexual preference for transsexuals, hence it not being a terribly common term or there being another widely used psych name for it. I know some people will find the "phile/philia" bit not to their liking, but it really just mean liking or attraction

I generally agree with your quest to find a suitable name for your attraction and hope that in some way it may decrease the stigma and misunderstanding surrounding your sexuality and even transwomens sexuality.

ps to others: just a quick note on fetish, usually it means your sexual arousal is dependent on an inanimate non-living object ie women’s panties. That isn't the case with transwomen, unless you view them as objects(i'm sure some people do, but most don’t), it’s more of an "alternative sexuality". But since I think a heck of a lot of "straight" men have fantasies about ts's don’t think it is that unusual or alternative, just very shameful and embarrassing to most men.

There’s some interesting references here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=329452 about three answers down, make that 4!

"gynandromorphophile" - interesting! /gyn/ (or /gyno/) [Greek gunē, woman] + /andro/ (or /andr/) [Greek, from anēr, andr-, man] + /morpho/ (or /morph/) [Greek, from morphē, shape, used in context of to transform shape] + /phile/ [New Latin -philus, from Greek -philos, beloved, dear, from philos, beloved, loving] = Loving or having a strong affinity or preference for a man transform[ed/ing] into a woman. A mouthful, but it does meet the lexical requirements of the desired term. Nice first post, Hol.

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Originally Posted by Ecstatic

"gynandromorphophile" - interesting! /gyn/ (or /gyno/) [Greek gunē, woman] + /andro/ (or /andr/) [Greek, from anēr, andr-, man] + /morpho/ (or /morph/) [Greek, from morphē, shape, used in context of to transform shape] + /phile/ [New Latin -philus, from Greek -philos, beloved, dear, from philos, beloved, loving] = Loving or having a strong affinity or preference for a man transform[ed/ing] into a woman. A mouthful, but it does meet the lexical requirements of the desired term. Nice first post, Hol.

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Thanks Ecstatic,

I've been lurking for a while and think e's search for an identity/label is a good thing and hope he is successful. I think the lack of an identity/label encourages a lot of men to be quite "shady"(i think that's the term?) about their sexual attraction to ts's and that validates their tendency to treat us as dirty secrets and embarrassments. I think if there was a more positive identity for guys who like ts's, ts's wouldn't get treated so poorly by some men. But maybe I'm being naively optimistic? lol!

Assuming there needs to be a term ending in -sexual (see my previous post suggesting "Type MMF") you could drop the -phile and add -sexual...

Gynandromorphosexual?

Did no one take my plea to not dwell on the labels seriously? LOL

how about transgensexual. Its less of a mouthful. (whiich in normal usage is a good thing, though I am not so sure here LOL)

meow

FK

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Originally Posted by Felicia Katt

Did no one take my plea to not dwell on the labels seriously? LOL

how about transgensexual. Its less of a mouthful. (whiich in normal usage is a good thing, though I am not so sure here LOL)

meow

FK

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More than a mouthful is a waste, anyway. :wink:




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Gynandromorphophile/Gynandromorphosexual/Transgensexual...

Interesting. I will embrace the technical term, Gynandromorphophile, and add it to my earlier label, transhomosexual, and file it with other useful woids that I've tripped over during my lifetime: Bogonophobic = Fear of beards, Parthenophobic = Fear of virgins, and Bovavocaphilia = The inexplicable urge to say "Moo!" when one sees a cow.

How about transgenphile?