17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

A neighborhood watch patrol struck again in Sanford today. two black thugs beat a fifty year old white man nearly to death with hammers. This on top of the two-man neighborhood watch patrol that shot and killed two drunk British tourists who were lost and walked into their hood. The shooter was sentenced to life WOP last week.

Did any of you people hear anything in the press about either case...I doubt it.

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Are they locked up? Yes they are

They damn sure should be.

They should be locked up and they are locked up. That's why they're not news. Now contrast with Zimmerman. Got it?? That's why Zimmerman IS news.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Ok...just to clarify please .....all the country's social ills....which Rockefeller are we blaming? Nelson? David? or perhaps Jay ? Or can we trace this back to John D and William ? All of the above? And what about the Rockefeller sisters? lmao

You're smart but that's a pretty drastic oversimplification.

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All social ills and disenfranchising people aren't quite the same thing, but I guess they might very well go hand in hand. The Rockefellers have quite a history of ruthless monopolistic practices. Or so you see them as model philanthropists?

And I don't know. Did the Rockefeller sisters control Standard Oil?

I'm talking about families like the Harrimans, the Dulleses, the Bushes, etc. You know.

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Maybe read her post again. There's a paragraph break between her expierence on the gated communities she lived in and her assessment of feeling disenfranchised and the reasons for that. I took those to be 2 separate thoughts....maybe you didn't..........who cares? Why don't you comment on her thesis instead of commenting on my response? That would be more instructive...come on...we know you've been looking for this opening to go into your shtick about OWS and the 1%ers. lol

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I have no "thesis".

You want to talk "separate thoughts"? What was his thesis? That he feels disenfranchised due to things like affirmative action, so he's blaming Al Sharpton? That black people strolling around outside of gated communities are most likely up to no good? Well I'm sorry, but that's just insane. And Al Sharpton is just reacting to the same sketchy story of Zimmerman's that most people are, besides you dumb white trash guys.

Ask this "mild cigar" guy to make some sense. I was just giving him a reality check because the guy's obviously a raving lunatic. He can't blame Al Sharpton for him being a paranoid white trash loser. Sorry. Black people are most certainly allowed to wear hoodies and walk on public streets. And if that doesn't make perfect sense to you two jackasses, you're both pretty stupid.

lol@neighborhood watch shouldn't be carrying guns.

everyone watches a little csi and become legal experts. have a little faith in the system

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Bang! 'You got me!' Are they kidding? Trayvon's last words were 'You got me'?

Imagine. You're in a life or death struggle with someone you are desperately trying to kill with your bare hands. You have spent the last sixty seconds pummeling this person with your fists and bashing his head on the pavement. You notice he has a gun. You smile your evil, golden-toothed smile and say, "You are going to die tonight." The struggle continues, but this 250-lb. full grown, 28-year old man you have been grappling with for the last minute or so with your lanky, 17-year old, 160-lb. body, beating him with your fists, bashing his head over and over again, this intended murder victim you randomly chose to satisfy your mad, senseless, mindless, hatred of all White people, reaches into his holster, withdraws his 9mm and busts a cap in your chest. Right in the pump.
You look at the blood gushing from your chest wound, doing your best to keep any of it from splashing all over the person who just shot you. You make eye contact.
"You got me," you say, as you fall backwards. Dead.


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The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.

"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.
The conclusions of Owen and another audio expert were first reported by the Orlando Sentinel on Saturday.
Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims the shooting was self-defense.
The 911 call, reposted in this YouTube clip, came on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.
In the recording of her phone call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.

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Originally Posted by nonnonnon

everyone watches a little csi and become legal experts. have a little faith in the system

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My argument in here has nothing to do with rich vs poor, any other lame attemppt at political interjection to change the subject, forensics, or racial profiling. I'm just trying to clarify the distinction between defense & aggression. That distinction's getting blurred more & more. It's obvious just by reading this thread. I don't want to see a time where self preservation ceases to be a viable defense. That's where we're headed with all this silliness. We're creating an amoral society in the name of political expedience. That's unacceptable.

As for "faith in the system", that went out the window a while ago. At least as far as this case is concerned. This incident happened a month ago or more. The local authorities had already shrugged it off. If the parents hadn't managed to turn this into a national cause celeb, that's where it would have stayed. It's hard to fault them for being pissed off. Sometimes this is what it takes to get the system to do its job.

Now I have a questioon on the details of the altercation. I've obnly heard pieces of the 911 recording, but it would seem that the phone was on throughout the whole incident, right up through the cries for help. How about the gunshots? Were they recorded? If so, what was the duration between them?

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

A neighborhood watch patrol struck again in Sanford today. two black thugs beat a fifty year old white man nearly to death with hammers. This on top of the two-man neighborhood watch patrol that shot and killed two drunk British tourists who were lost and walked into their hood. The shooter was sentenced to life WOP last week.

Did any of you people hear anything in the press about either case...I doubt it.

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The incident involving the two British tourists was of course widely covered here, the person responsible for the shooting, Shawn Tyson, was not part of a neighbourhood watch team but a 16-year old who had already been involved in a shooting incident and was only out of custody because of a foul-up in the Florida/Sarasota court system. Tyson acted alone but after boasting about what he had done, a friend of his testified against him in court.

Thw curious thing about yourdaddy's post, is that even when the facts, not disputed, are presented in court, we still get distortions, like the idea there were two people, it was a neighbourhgood watch team -what hope is there for 'the truth' about the Zimmerman-Martin case? One shot? Two Shots? A attacked B, B attacked A, and so on. Maybe it will never end, like the Kennedy Assassination, or who did kill Edina Watkins?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17540508

I cannot believe there are so many racist! Like I'm so disappointed actually, what person in his/her right mind would think its okay for this man to just cut this kid's life short, not only did he kill an innocent kid, he hurt his family, and friends, I always look at it from my point of view, no one deserves this! I don't care wether your a troubled kid, there is always room in life to improve and second chances, but that opportunity was taken from him by some guy, who has no respect for the law, and human life.

In my country, the father of this kid would have chopped zimmerman's head off with a machete already! Zimmerman is lucky the law still protects him to an extent, but I don't think it will last long. Hopefully lets see how compassionate people are, this would be a true test.

Where are all the smart asses now who were ready to lynch Zimmerman and his parents and the Sanford police department?

Everything those rabble-rousing idiots Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were proclaiming has been disproven or soon will be.

Do you think there will be any apologies from the black community for the hate crimes perpetrated in Trayvon's name...Hell No !!!

This half-black idiot President and his half-black idiot Atty General need to start leading all Americans...not just African-Americans.

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Where are all the smart asses now who were ready to lynch Zimmerman and his parents and the Sanford police department?

Everything those rabble-rousing idiots Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were proclaiming has been disproven or soon will be.

Do you think there will be any apologies from the black community for the hate crimes perpetrated in Trayvon's name...Hell No !!!

This half-black idiot President and his half-black idiot Atty General need to start leading all Americans...not just African-Americans.

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Rallys are not hate crimes. The African American community has not committed a crime. Protesting is a 1st amendment right.

Obama has been appealing to all races in America. He is working with all groups of people.

Obama has been appealing to all races in America. He is working with all groups of people.[/QUOTE]

Where was Obama when two British youths were killed during a robbery attempt gone wrong, several months ago in Florida? Why does he only feel the need to speak up only if there is a supposed black victim?

Where was the discussion on HA about the racism inherent in the crime in which two whites were killed? Where were the marches from the NAACP.

If you go by the crime statistics whites are more often victimized by blacks; yet if you point this out you are branded a racist. If we really cared about the black community's youth then we would be attempting to be more aggressive in fighting and discussing black on black crime.

However, that would be politically incorrect, and Al Sharpton would get his race hustler panties in a twist. We should be talking about how the "great society" decimated the black family. Handouts have done far more harm to the black family than racism, and yet Obama wants to bankrupt the country giving more to people that work the least (least anyone think I am racist, I will stipulate there are plenty of white sponges as well as black).

BUT THOSE PERTRATORS WERE ARRESTED!!

It's the fact that someone killed another, yet he wasn't even detained. THAT'S what many are pissed about. Even if it was white-on-white I'd be pissed at that.

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BUT THOSE PERTRATORS WERE ARRESTED!!

It's the fact that someone killed another, yet he wasn't even detained. THAT'S what many are pissed about. Even if it was white-on-white I'd be pissed at that.

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He was detained and released as shown when he was taken to the police department . They went by the book. The video of him being taken in is what shows the cuts on his head. I guess none of you saw that evidently.

People like seanchai only see what they want to see and read what they want to read.

[QUOTE=Willie Escalade;1119788]BUT THOSE PERTRATORS WERE ARRESTED!!

Zimmerman was defending himself from an attack by Treyvon. It is a shame that Treyvon was killed, but he should not have attacked Zimmerman. I don't think either person's race had anything to do with this incident. I just hope Obama, Sharpton, et al are happy when there are race riots over this incident (from the nonviolent black community). My point as in prevous posts is I wish that the black community would take a inward look at its social pathologies that breed violent youth like Treyvon (if you don't believe me look at his twitter account postings).

I hope there is a huge race riot and maybe if the riot ends the U.S will learn to practice what it preaches, I.e. freedom, democracy, justice for all.... You all know what I mean.

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BUT THOSE PERTRATORS WERE ARRESTED!!

Zimmerman was defending himself from an attack by Treyvon. It is a shame that Treyvon was killed, but he should not have attacked Zimmerman. I don't think either person's race had anything to do with this incident. I just hope Obama, Sharpton, et al are happy when there are race riots over this incident (from the nonviolent black community). My point as in prevous posts is I wish that the black community would take a inward look at its social pathologies that breed violent youth like Treyvon (if you don't believe me look at his twitter account postings).

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How do you know he attacked Zimmerman? How do you know he was "bred to be violent"? Where do you come up with shit?

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He was detained and released as shown when he was taken to the police department . They went by the book.

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That's the trouble here. The book is fuck-assed-backwards. The stand-your-ground-law is a ridiculous, dangerous and irresponsible piece of asinine boilerplate legislation from ALEC. Have you ever heard of one civilian shooting another dead minutes before the police arrive and the gun is not temporarily confiscated for lab analysis? Apparently in Florida it's against the law to stand your ground using your fists and your box of skittles, but it's A-OK to single out, hunt down and murder an unarmed kid whose guilty of being black---oops! I mean guilty of being a suspicious visitor to the neighborhood (wearing a hoodie, being black, talking on a cell phone and rattling a box of skittles). Before stand-your-ground Zimmerman would've been arrested, not simply detained, and the crime properly investigated. The law is an obstruction of justice and an declaration of open season on racial minorities.

This crime is more than half a year old. Florida tried to sit on this and they were nearly successful at keeping it permanently under wraps. It's not like this crime sparked flames of anger that were just waiting to ignite; rather people slowly became aware of the merits of the Martin's case, the travesty of justice that followed the shooting, the widespread adoption of the idiotic law (written by the NRA in boilerplate form) that let Zimmerman off the hook, and the obvious racial overtones of the shooting and coverup. All these things come together in this single case. That's why it's news.

Nicole DuPre said " How do you know he attacked Zimmerman? How do you know he was "bred to be violent"? Where do you come up with shit? "

Pull your head out of your ass and pay attention Nicole. You can't be as dumb as you sound unless you sit in front of msnbc and do your makeup all day.

Trayvon was a thug wannabe. The rest of the world has read his twitter posts and saw the results of his attack on Zimmerman.

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

He was detained and released as shown when he was taken to the police department . They went by the book. The video of him being taken in is what shows the cuts on his head. I guess none of you saw that evidently.

People like seanchai only see what they want to see and read what they want to read.

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Zimmerman's brother said his bro was beaten within an inch of his life. But apparently his injuries were so minor that an ambulance was called off and the medical care Zimmerman received on scene from cops didn't require a single fucking BAND-AID.lol

If Sanford PD had gone 'by the book', they would have taken pics of the back of Zimmerman's head at the police station. Somehow if and when there's a trial, we'll find out that no such photos were ever taken(!), and if there were, we won't see any LIFE THREATENING injuries to the back of Zimmerman's dome.

If a guy is playing hoops at my gym and he lands hard on his head and gets up slightly disoriented, as a precaution he's sent to the hospital.

Zimmerman I guess is a quick healer since he never went to ER that night, yet still felt his life was threatened(?) in this horrific struggle that left him no option except to blow this kid away.

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Nicole DuPre said " How do you know he attacked Zimmerman? How do you know he was "bred to be violent"? Where do you come up with shit? "

Pull your head out of your ass and pay attention Nicole. You can't be as dumb as you sound unless you sit in front of msnbc and do your makeup all day.

Trayvon was a thug wannabe. The rest of the world has read his twitter posts and saw the results of his attack on Zimmerman.

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Excuse me, but were you there?

And what does "bred for violence" mean exactly, genius?

The guy who actually was ARRESTED for assaulting a PO and for hitting his wife is an 'innocent'.
THe kid with the spotless criminal record is a 'thug'.

Gotcha.

Are there 12 people in the U. S. who haven't made up their mind on this case?

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

How do you know he attacked Zimmerman? How do you know he was "bred to be violent"? Where do you come up with shit?

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I read his twitter feed:

“Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/se...#ixzz1rPQBR9J5

But I guess it is politically incorrect to mention that.

Well in that case Zimmerman should have emptied his clip into Trayvon.
How dare a teenager talk shit to his boyz on the interwebz.

Those twitter feeds are alleged to have been Trayvons, not confirmed. THe DC isn't the most 'objective' news source on the internet.

Too bad Trayvon forgot to bring his uzi and machete with him on his walk back home from 7-Eleven. At least it would have been a fair fight.smh.

At this point I don't care anyway.
Zimmerman is a dead man in South Florida.

At least if he's arrested, he'll have the benefit of police protection.

So, let's add up the charges: He talks shit on the internet with his friends, he wears a hoodie late at night, he smokes herb, he's late for school, he swings on a dude that's stalking him.

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Well in that case Zimmerman should have emptied his clip into Trayvon.
How dare a teenager talk shit to his boyz on the interwebz.

Those twitter feeds are alleged to have been Trayvons, not confirmed. THe DC isn't the most 'objective' news source on the internet.

Too bad Trayvon forgot to bring his uzi and machete with him on his walk back home from 7-Eleven. At least it would have been a fair fight.smh.

At this point I don't care anyway.
Zimmerman is a dead man in South Florida.

At least if he's arrested, he'll have the benefit of police protection.

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I think the above post underscores my point about social pathologies that run rampant in the black community. The poster is advocating mob violence against someone and thinks nothing of it.

Mark my words that this whole episode is going to backfire against the race hustlers, the black community in general, and Obama in particular. Just see what a race riot in FL does to Obama's reelection chances. The President should never have got himself involved in this mess. It just shows that he has very little self control.

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So, let's add up the charges: He talks shit on the internet with his friends, he wears a hoodie late at night, he smokes herb, he's late for school, he swings on a dude that's stalking him.

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.......equals the DEATH PENALTY, because a fatass punk starts some bullshit he can't finish and is a purebred pussy.

Back in the day, if a dude pulled a gun basically for no reason in a fight he went looking for and there were witnesses to this nonsense, if he didn't get arrested he would have been beat down or worse.

cigar is a dumb ass what about all you redneck crackers perpetuating violence before and after Obama was elected and wob by a landslide majority. they called the potus a coon. left death threats militias were started ket you overlook this to state your racist views I am white and am disqusted by you and your ilk. there are murderers and psychos and criminals of all races and sexes.to your point there was a black woman beat 2 death by a hammer recently by a crazed white man, did not really make news guess why the man was arrested soon after the assault & is going to trial >how do you lie with yourself I hope one of your kids marries another race (you finish the thought you )fucking joke!!!!

[QUOTE=giovanni_hotel;1119855].......equals the DEATH PENALTY, because a fatass punk starts some bullshit he can't finish and is a purebred pussy.


I think you have it backwards. It appears that Treyvon was the punk who couldn't finish what he started.

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So, let's add up the charges: He talks shit on the internet with his friends, he wears a hoodie late at night, he smokes herb, he's late for school, he swings on a dude that's stalking him.

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Sounds like any red blooded American teenager.

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.......equals the DEATH PENALTY, because a fatass punk starts some bullshit he can't finish and is a purebred pussy.


I think you have it backwards. It appears that Treyvon was the punk who couldn't finish what he started.

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Nope, the only pussy in this case is the one still in hiding although allegedly he's innocent.lol

Unless Trayvon was following behind Zimmerman on foot while he was still in his car.

Either way, Zimmerman is found not guilty and gets gunned down some random evening by who knows who, or, he ends up in prison getting his colon re-arranged daily without lube.

His life from here on out is fucked.
Couldn't happen to a better asshole.:whistle:

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Nope, the only pussy in this case is the one still in hiding although allegedly he's innocent.lol

Unless Trayvon was following behind Zimmerman on foot while he was still in his car.

Either way, Zimmerman is found not guilty and gets gunned down some random evening by who knows who, or, he ends up in prison getting his colon re-arranged daily without lube.

His life from here on out is fucked.
Couldn't happen to a better asshole.:whistle:

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except maybe mild cigar

Just curious. How many presidents in the past ever said anything about a crime let alone picked a side before the investigation was completed?

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It appears that Treyvon was the punk who couldn't finish what he started.

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For the one hundreth time he was walking to his aunt's house. The only reason this case is getting the attention it's getting is because the police tried to bury it.

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Just curious. How many presidents in the past ever said anything about a crime let alone picked a side before the investigation was completed?

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The POTUS offered his condolences to the victim's family. SYG is an idiotic law. In most states including the nation's capital, when you admit to murdering someone who's unarmed, you have to plead your innocence before a judge and make your case before a jury of your peers.

Most pussies don't get to go home the same night and sleep in their beds after crying to cops that a seventeen year old gave them a bloody nose in a fight they instigated and then cry , 'self defense'.

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For the one hundreth time he was walking to his aunt's house. The only reason this case is getting the attention it's getting is because the police tried to bury it.

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Yep. It wasn't till I read a an article in today's Guardian that I discovered that the events took place six months ago, and that if it hadn't been for the Martin family's search for justice, it would have been lost in the Florida police files a long time ago. Eerie parallels with the Stephen Lawrence case in the UK back in the 90s.

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Just curious. How many presidents in the past ever said anything about a crime let alone picked a side before the investigation was completed?

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as was stated b4 the potussaid there needs tobe an investigation and that his son would look like trayvon read it verbatim then repost your question!