Censorship (and political correctness) marches on...this is no different than the persecution of legendary and groundbreaking comic Lenny Bruce.
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Censorship (and political correctness) marches on...this is no different than the persecution of legendary and groundbreaking comic Lenny Bruce.
It's very difficult to balance the scales between our First AmendmentQuote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
right to free speech, and political correctness.
In the case of Lenny Bruce I feel the scales were unfairly tipped against
Lenny Bruce.
What I liked about him is that he talked shit about everyone equally. He
was truly a comedic genius ahead of his time.
Political correctness fueled by the media's inbreed need to find something, anything to report on to top the competition are turning this nation into a bunch of panty-wastes and negative Nancy's.
We're turning into a bunch of helmet wearing sissy boys playing non-contact tag while being closely monitored by our politically correct soccer moms who engorge themselves on donuts with diet cokes and look forward to their favorite reality TV program.
This country is turning into an a large undouched cunt, shaded by a huge bunt, in the middle of a period.
Look at the candidates we have running for office not only in this election but also in elections going back decades. Who do you respect? Where are the leaders of character? They’re not running. They and their families would be run over with sound bites and thirty second innuendoes thirty days after they come out of the gate. What has changed? The media has grown. And as media outlets grow in number, there evolves intense competition to top each other. We have a giant magnifying glass on society, which has inadvertently grown a fungus call political correctness, which is slowly killing free speech.
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Very compelling op-ed statement, nicely articulated.Quote:
Originally Posted by ezed
I must admit that I am somewhat conflicted.
Political correctness clearly can benefit groups that I am a member of;
a person of color, a woman, and as a transwoman.
Having said that, I am a proponent of free speech. Take away the right
of free speech and and the right to assemble peacebly of a group or
person that I disagree with, and perhaps soon my rights to the same
may diminish.
Thus I am extremely concerned about the erosion of free speech, as I
have a vested interest.
Yet, I can not allow hateful, or malicious words and sentiments to be
heaped upon any group whether I am a member of it or not, or if I
or my interest group are directly impacted by said statements.
As to the the heinous words Of Don Imus, I feel that his punishment
was befitting of his actions.
But Imus isn't the only maleofactor when it comes to this type of activity.
Equally culpable is the hip hop / rock industry with it's misogynistic,
homophobic, and transphobic rhetoric and actions. They should be
pursued with the same vehemance as Imus.
But in our quest to be the kinder, gentler, and more equitable nation that
we can and should be, we must strive to not erode the First Amendment,
and the cornerstones for which it stands.
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"Let's be careful out there in the admistration of our duty".
here's a post that will kill you :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
when sharpton went after imus, he was going after the artist (who happened to be white). sharpton was challenged by glenn beck to go after rap music. sharpton said he would. who did sharpton go after? the black artists? nope. he went after the white producers. why is that?
oh wait, there's that double standard again...
I'd just love it if white America would stop referring to Al Sharpton as a "black leader", as if black people elected him or something. If that had ever happened, believe me, his ass would have been impeached a long, long, long time ago. This "black leader" title was given to this idiot by the media, which has little to no knowledge of whom black people consider leaders, because few people of importance in the media know any real black people, and are too afraid to be around black people to ask them about anything. Just my opinion...
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Originally Posted by Unisex
LOL counseling would tremendously benefit that guy.
Al Sharpton took it upon himself to be a black leader, as did Jessie "hymietown" Jackson...perhaps sensible black Americans should take it upon themselves to let these two clowns know that they don't speak for them...Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ347
must be all the black people around him when he marches that are throwing me off, then. my bad... :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ347
no bitterness here. just stating a fact. one that you will brush off yet again...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
wait, aren't you the one who threw a fit when i pointed out errors in your posts? yeah, thought so. hi kettle, i'm pot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
So under your logic, I would be right to consider the speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally, who is surrounded by like-minded white people, the voice of all white people, right? I don't know whether or not you need counseling, but you sure need to get a clue... :footinmouthQuote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
WTF are you talking about crazy please crawl back under the rock you came from,now please take your pathetic double stardards conspiracy theory somewhere else,i'm sure if people threw personal insults at middle aged guys who named themselves after t-girls who them use that in a pathetic attempt to try and talk to real t-girls(ask arianna)you wouldn't be so forgiving.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
A black reporter (whose name I don't recall unfortunately) appeared on the "Opie and Anthony" radio show (the "regular" radio show, not the Sirius broadcast) in the aftermath of the Imus incident, and stated clearly, emphatically and repeatedly that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were not black leaders in his opinion, also explaining succinctly why he felt that way. Comedian Patrice O'Neal, also black, also said similar things on the same program, and I later saw the reporter appear on an Oprah episode covering the Imus fallout (Sharpton appeared via satellite). This is really nothing new... Sharpton and Jackson already know they don't speak for most black people, but so long as the media keeps putting them in front of a camera and handing them a microphone, and white Americans continue to recognize them as black leaders (even as they simultaneously join many black people in being increasingly repulsed by their very appearance on a television screen), they'll keep doing what they do. So really, this isn't at all about what black Americans need to tell Sharpton or Jackson, it's about what black Americans need white Americans to come to understand. Black people did not collectively meet and elect Al SHarpton or Jese Jackson as our leaders, and there have been in recent times, just as their have been in the past, black Americans who have said so very loud and clear. It's just no one seems no one has ever bothered to try and hear them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
The messages of misogyny, homo / transphobia, promotion ofQuote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
violence, etc has long been on the radar of Black consciousness.
This is not a new issue and has been addressed by many, perhaps
most prominently Doleres Tucker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Delores_Tucker
I concur with the latter part of your statement. White America has littleQuote:
Originally Posted by TJ347
to no true understanding or knowledge of non White Americans.
To paraphrase the words of public Enemy "stop believing the hype".
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Originally Posted by Peggy
That's why it's paraphrased, boo. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
Word to the PC police and the censorship shills!! 8)
Porn Company Backs Don Imus With Release Of DVD Titled 'Nappy Headed Ho's'
Published: Friday - May 11, 2007
Words by Ronnie Gamble
In the wake of the now infamous Don Imus comments made toward the Rutgers University women's basketball team, a porn company is trying to benefit from the racist term with the release adult film called "Nappy Headed Ho's."
Poking fun at the incident, Kick Ass Pictures say they are releasing the DVD, which features women of color, to back the idea that although Imus' comments were racist, they should be protected by the First Amendment.
"We see this as a free speech issue," Kick Ass President Mark Kulkis said. "As an adult media company, we're especially defensive of free speech. Don Imus is a loudmouth and perhaps a bigot. However, CBS Radio was hypocritical in hiring Imus to be blunt and outspoken, then firing him for the same reason. Fellow broadcast personalities Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson spew anti-gay slurs, yet they are not fired by their networks."
Kick Ass Pictures goes as far as to say that $1 from each sale of their "Nappy Headed Ho's" adult film will go into a retire fund for Imus. "If Imus doesn't prevail, then there's a good chance he'll need some help with his retirement fund," said Kulkis. "If he doesn't choose to accept the money we collect, then we'll donate it to the United Negro College Fund."
The DVD is slated for release July 17.
It is unclear as to whether Kick Ass Pictures is sincere with their stance on free speech, backing up Imus, or if it is all a marketing ploy for DVD sales.
According to successful female African American adult film producer Kim Hicks Gibson, the company is doing nothing but exploiting a terrible situation. "Kick Ass Pictures finds it 'entertaining' to release a XXX DVD entitled 'Nappy Head Hos,'" Gibson said in a statement released to BallerStatus.com. "It's important for the African American community to know that -- although we as adult film producers make it a point to go as close to the edge of the cliff of full exploitation without falling off -- this DVD, 'Nappy Head Hos,' has truly fell deep into the pit of true exploitation.
"I am appalled and surprised that Mark Kulkis would step this low to make money," she continued.
To combat the DVD's release, Gibson has started an online petition, calling it racist, and urging the African American community to sign it.
Yeah, I see... and you definitely had a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
will you please find the time to draft a proper sentence when answering posts? and why all the hatred towards me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
and some "cats" kill me with their vague references and bitter attitudes when someone posts a view different than theirs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unisex
"bro" :roll: :roll:
First, it's not hatred, it's annoyance.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
Second, it's because of the nonsense that comes out of your mouth (see my previous post in this thread).
Third, please stop. This thread had died, and rightly so.
It's not hatred towards you, personally. It's hatred towards your views. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
Because you are a annoying rodent who spews nothing but bullshit,usually people who use the lame double stardard excuse are the ones who have some kind of racist views they try to mask,as a gay male you should be more understanding about issues like this are or you one of those closet bigots like ted haggart.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
So free speech is bad....but censorship is good....right? :roll:
have you seen any of your posts recently?Quote:
Originally Posted by Legend
you really like to throw around the "racist" word, don't you? do you have any proof to back that up?
QFT...Quote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
Double standards, Legend? I'm glad you brought that matter up...
Either Al Sharpton should be fired, or Don Imus should be re-hired
Mary Mostert
An excerpt:
Al Sharpton: "As for the one Mormon running for office, those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways, so don't worry about that; that's a temporary situation."
Now that Mitt Romney and many others have pointed out that Sharpton's comment was not only wrong but also clearly bigoted, he is belatedly trying to claim that he really was not talking about the "one Mormon running for office" but about Hitchens, the atheist, whom he didn't mention. Not even the Washington Post will swallow that lie. It is calling Sharpton a hypocrite coming, as it did, on the heels of Sharpton's attacks on Don Imus .
And, Don Imus apologized for a statement he didn't even make, whereas Sharpton has never apologized for what he said about Mitt Romney's and my religion. Imus apologized, even though what he really said was:
"IMUS:That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and..."
Then his Executive Producer Bernard McGuirk said:
"Some hard-core hos."
IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some — woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like — kinda like — I don't know."
Imus said later, and I would have to agree with him, that he "didn't think it was a racial insult. I thought it was in the process of us rapping and trying to be funny."
Sharpton took a hard line and demanded that Imus be fired because he made "racially hurtful comments on a mainstream show that routinely hosted political candidates and top-tier journalists."
The Rutgers Girls Baskeball team has a black coach and 80% of its players are also black. They are very tall girls, the shortest being 5'8" and the tallest being 6'1," which probably would not prompt any man to call them "cute."
From Al Sharpton's accusation that this was a "racist" remark, one would have to assume that the entire Rutgers team is black girls with short, nappy hair usually found among African black women, not American black women 98% of whom have some Caucasian ancestry, as well as African ancestry. However, twenty percent of the team are white girls and only one of the eight black girls has hair that could be called "nappy" — which is an adjective that means the texture of the hair is "short, soft and downy" It was an inaccurate statement on Imus' part, but it was not an insult or "racist."
Now, McGuirk calling the girls "hard-core hos" a rapper term that means hard-core whores was neither truthful nor kind and Don Imus apologized for the episode, something that Sharpton has NOT done for his insult to a minority group called "Mormons" about their belief in God. Also, after meeting with Don Imus who apologized to them, none of the team supported Al Sharpton's demand that he be fired.
It is of interest to note, considering the latest Mormon bashing by Al Sharpton, that one of those Rutgers players, Katie Adams, is a white Mormon girl from Ogden, Utah who was valedictorian of her high school graduating class, has a 4.0 average in her study of psychology at Rutgers and was recently awarded the most Courageous/Inspirational Player of the Rutgers Girls' Basketball team. She doesn't seem to have any tattoos and she definitely does not have short hair.
Even the Washington Post has identified Al Sharpton as a hypocritical bigot for his attack on Mitt Romney's religion.
Al Sharpton's bigoted and totally inaccurate accusation that we Mormons, including presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Rutgers Girls Basketball junior guard Katie Adams, do not believe in God is far more offensive than Don Imus describing someone's hair as "short, soft and downy" or even using a a rapper phrase that is heard a million times a day from black recording artists.
I say, either Don Imus gets his job back, or Al Sharpton gets fired.
It's their right, but it's 'so wrong'. :smhQuote:
Originally Posted by chefmike
Al Sharpton on the Return of Imus
Don Imus is back—and Rev. Al Sharpton is surprisingly okay with that.
Imus buddy Bo Dietl dropped heavy hints on a radio show over the weekend that the aging shock jock will be back at WFAN no later than September. That would mean a mere five months of wandering in the wilderness for the I-Man, who was fired in April by CBS Radio and MSNBC after calling female college basketball players "nappy-headed hos."
Sharpton, of course, played no small part in Imus's downfall, even inviting the man onto his radio show to apologize to viewers only to declare his apology inadequate. Yet the Rev. tells Radar he would not oppose Imus's return this fall.
"My position is that we never called for him to be permanently barred from being on the air," he says. "We'll see when he comes back, and if he comes back, what are the boundaries and what is the understanding. We'll be monitoring the situation, but we wanted him to pay for being a repeat abuser, and he paid. We never said we didn't want him to make a living."
As for the claim that Imus is seeking a black comedian to "take the sting out" of his racial humor, Sharpton says, "A sidekick is not cover. What he needs to give him cover is his own conscience and whether he'll live up to the apology he gave those Rutgers girls."
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...rn-of-imus.php
I hope they put him back on msnbc in the am. I can't take anymore of Joe Scarborough.
I love Imus and i believe he is not racist.
Imus in the morning was one of the few sources for actual news. It was also hilarious.