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Easy there, Hippi. I don't see what you object to. What business would you start tomorrow morning in California? I'm a mere knuckle dragging landlord looking for sound financial guidance. I'm not looking for a job. I'm looking for an investment but I'd be freaked out taking a risk right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hippifried
Europe,America,Australia,New Zealand,Canada are all sliding down into the toilet bowl .Areas in Australia ,America,Europe have areas that are considered no go zones for public services,especially police because of criminal behaviour.the socialists will say they need better programs ,the capitalists will say they need more police and stronger penalties.But what really is the answer ? a combination of the 2. and i believe that the law really should be colour blind but absolutely ruthless in their sentences for criminal behaviour and their really should be more education and hospitals and less tolerance for violence and corruption
Actually, he didn't have the power to pardon him. The President can only pardon offenses against the United States (i.e., federal crimes). A State conviction can only be pardoned by a governor or pardon board (depending on the constitution of an individual state).Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelinaTorres
[QUOTE=hippifried;1010757]You're both full of shit. They're just trying to get out of the snow. They used to come out for the season, & go back when the sun came out again up there. About 35 years ago, it started becoming aparent that more & more of them were willing to brave the summers down here rather than put up with blinding sleet at any time. A huge chunk are retirees. When the circulation isn't what it used to be, you can't get too warm. They're moving to CA too. There's so many people already that it just isn't as noticable. They move to the LA megopolis for opportunities. The retirees go anywhere else, especially heading south. It's gotten hard to find a place to live in San Diego nowadays. The 2 main reasons people move anywhere is opportunity & weather. Either can trump the other. Nobody's moving to Arizona, Mississippi, or South Carolina because they like the wages. Businesses go where they can service the big manufacturers, & the south is where the Asians set up shop.
LMAO....you say shit that defies logic and more importantly fact. What you've stated is merely your opinion....and what's it based on? It's OK to have an opinion, but when it collides headlong into the facts, well then you look pretty ignorant. Let's deal in provable facts....can we?
Between 2004 and 2008 New Jersey loss 70 Billion in wealth, and it all didn't go south. Some of it went to Pennsylvania, and in case you didn't realize this...it's pretty cold there in the winter.
"This was not always the case. The study – the first on interstate wealth migration in the country — noted the state actually saw an influx of $98 billion in the five years preceding 2004. The exodus of wealth, then, local experts and economists concluded, was a reaction to a series of changes in the state’s tax structure — including increases in the income, sales, property and “millionaire” taxes.
“This study makes it crystal clear that New Jersey’s tax policies are resulting in a significant decline in the state’s wealth,” said Dennis Bone, chairman of the New Jersey Chamber of Commerce and president of Verizon New Jersey.
Experts pointed to an abundance of anecdotal evidence to support the numbers. Ken Hydock, a certified public accountant with Sobel and Company in Livingston, said in this 30-year-career he’s never seen so many of his wealthy clients leave for "purely tax reasons" for states like Florida, where property taxes are lower and there is no personal income or estate tax. In New Jersey, residents pay an estate tax if their assets amount to more than $675,000. That’s compared to a $3.5 million federal exemption for 2009.
And On Your inane California contention ( people are moving there, but you might not notice it beause there's so many people already there) LMFAO
" December 10, 2010|By Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Sacramento Bureau
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Sacramento - — California's population has increased by nearly 5 million people over the past decade, but that growth has slowed in recent years and the number of people in the state grew by less than 1 percent between 2009 and 2010, according to the California Department of Finance.
Also, over the past few years, more people have left California for other states than have come here, though foreign immigration and natural increases due to births have kept the Golden State's population on an upward trend to 38.8 million, according to the department's annual population estimate released Thursday.
Demographers say the trend of fewer migrants to California from other states is the new normal and past mass waves of people coming here from throughout the United States, which has been an integral part of the state's history, is now just that - history.
Who's full of shit now Hippie? You're not dumb, you just sound that way sometimes.
is this a rip to Troy Daivis thread? Or another example of ONK stupid postings?
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Originally Posted by buckjohnson
It's a journey into "sober" facts Buck. I'm guessing that disqualifies you . Maybe you hadn't noticed but "ocassionaly" a thread veers off course here....I didn't take it there, but I'm happy to set someone straight with facts. Hippie said I was full of shit...I felt inclined to tell him he was. Have you something to add to the discussion...either on Troy Davis, or population demographics or is it time to wash down your morning meds with some cheap Vodka?
Hippie's not a dumb guy....you on the other hand....LMFAO
And this from a guy who ponders... " how many of my posts have been while I was drunk " . You fucking idiot.
I do not drink vodka. Because of the cheap quailty.
This was/is a serious discussion about a serious challenge in America's criminal injustice system regarding a person who was seriously murdered. You can "veer" off about having an arm in someones ass, or your DP with ND, but I feel this subject matter should remain on course.
Wait....we have a new hall monitor now. Buck is going to work with the mods to keep all threads on topic...LMFAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by buckjohnson
Then why didn't you make a post to redirect it back on theme...rather than take a cheap shot at me? Because like others, you can't resist the urge to take a cheap shot....and then complain about people who take cheap shots ! lmao. ....so you're the guilty one . Buck....please take a moment out from your fantasy football games and go back and read the thread from the beginning. Or any thread for that matter. None of them stay focused. It's the way it is. But why am I explaining ? In 5 minutes you'll be passed out and won't recall any of this.
Again, OMK, this is plain silly. I am ok about othere treads going off topic. Sometimes, if smartly posted , an off topic can be illuminating and interesting. However, your's was not smart, illuminating, not interesting.
Also plan on being passed out in about 2 hours, not 5 minutes. I got some ass fucking to do to a co-worker who deserves it, always giving me work to do at the last moment, eating my food at lunch time, borrowing money w/o paying it back, drinking the last of my 151.
I mourn Mr. Davis's passing. I realize that the death penalty is just an microcosm of what is wrong with america's criminal justice sysytem.
I did not think I was taking a cheap shot at you. You did get DP by ND.
Well we may never know, so I decided to try a little experiment. I don't normally believe in the supernatural...but can't hurt to try. Got a OUIJA board here. Hmmm...let's see...place fingertips on pointer...okay...did that...call out to Troy Davis...did that...(hope I didn't have to burn candles or incense...didn't do that).
Well, nothing is happening (just as I suspected), so this thing probably doesn't work...figures.
Wait a minute!!! It's moving!...It's slowly stopping over letters!..I...........
..D...........I............(that's it?..I think it's stopped....nope, started moving again)..D..
...I.....T.
There, that seems to be it. Just one word : IDIDIT...meaningless.
Oh wait...it must mean "I DID IT"
Well then, there you have it...straight from the source...debate over.