Nicole and Hara

Anyway, I feel really weird thinking that I'd be patronizing one member here, and one member only. It seems like a strange precedent to set. Am I allowed to defend shemale escorts when Viridian spouts off? She's a nurses aide too, and she has zero respect for TS sexworkers.

And what about blacktgirls constantly harassing Mimi? Why is no one concerned about that?

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I just want to say that anyone who goes to work has my genuine respect... FOR GOING TO WORK. It's not what you do that I necessarily have a problem with. It's that you think you can be smug and sanctimonious when you give your opinions on escorting and porn, and when you start telling the forum who is and who is not a "true" TS.

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The underlined statement is wrong! I never said that. I gave an opinion and you in turn took that to heart! As far as being a true TS. Initially, I never refered to you as such. BUT you went beyond name calling and insults. So I had to REMIND you where YOU came from! If you hate and feel that I was being snotty to you, I hate and feel that you as a late transitioner was snotty towards me! End of story!

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I never hear you say anything positive about TS porn stars or escorts.

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Um, maybe not directly to you! Now is that a problem? How is that a problem? When I do give out compliments to others. Do a SEARCH!

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

To me, you sound a lot like Viridian. It seems that because you can't or won't be a sexworker,

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Honestly, The above statement is LAUGHABLE! Been there done that. I don't like it so I switched to doing bdsm where sex isn't a MUST or a requirement. I enjoy the KINK and control in bdsm. You of all people whould know this because we've talked for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

This is a shemale porn forum. How can you sit there with a straight face and say those things, and assume there'll be no backlash? If i went on a nurses aide forum and said, "You guys change diapers and spread Preparation H on 80 yr old anuses, not because you want to but, because you lack the education and the drive to do anything else", what kind of reaction do you think I'd get? Seriously.

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Yeah, and seriously..Do you ever take everything said or typed here to heart? I don't see even the most drop dead gorgeous girls on here give anything said here a time of day! Meaning, IF it was a whole bunch saying the same things, maybe its me. But it's only YOU who kept dragging this on and on in a circle! So I guess you're the one with mental issues and anguish not the girls.

Admit it, YOU got a vendetta. Not only to me but other people who talks back to you and put you where you belong! No more/no less! :roll:

~Kisses.

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Originally Posted by horndog

Hara, Hara, Hara, stop.

IMHO you should just ignore N.D. from this point on. You are not going to win this one, and neither is N.D. for that matter. :x

N.D. already stated that HA would have to do without N.D.'s "presence". Yet, N.D. is still here...:roll:

Don't let N.D. chase you away.

Let it go Hara, cream always rises... :wink:

As much as I get off to shemale porn, if you are "changing diapers" for a living, more power to you. It's an honourable profession that is needed and most of us would not, and more specifically, could not handle.

MOST of us will all be headed there (diapers) at some point towards the end of our lives.

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I know. And THAT is the problem here. Instead of ND just shutting up, even that ND couldn't do! Doing adult work in the past and shifting to something I really liked takes a lot of dedication. My adult work helped me get here - relocate, get retrained and get that mainstream job that often eludes people like me. Loving the work that you do vs. working for sex for the sake of covering bills are two different things. I preferred the former..I'm entitled how i want to live myself as much as others who chose to escort are. We are what we do! There is NOTHING to be ashamed being a cna. I'm actually thinking of continuing that to either an LVN or RN when time permits. ;)

~Kisses.

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Originally Posted by Hara_Juku Tgirl

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I just want to say that anyone who goes to work has my genuine respect... FOR GOING TO WORK. It's not what you do that I necessarily have a problem with. It's that you think you can be smug and sanctimonious when you give your opinions on escorting and porn, and when you start telling the forum who is and who is not a "true" TS.

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The underlined statement is wrong! I never said that. I gave an opinion and you in turn took that to heart! As far as being a true TS. Initially, I never refered to you as such. BUT you went beyond name calling and insults. So I had to REMIND you where YOU came from! If you hate and feel that I was being snotty to you, I hate and feel that you as a late transitioner was snotty towards me! End of story!

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I never hear you say anything positive about TS porn stars or escorts.

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Um, maybe not directly to you! Now is that a problem? How is that a problem? When I do give out compliments to others. Do a SEARCH!

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

To me, you sound a lot like Viridian. It seems that because you can't or won't be a sexworker,

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Honestly, The above statement is LAUGHABLE! Been there done that. I don't like it so I switched to doing bdsm where sex isn't a MUST or a requirement. I enjoy the KINK and control in bdsm. You of all people whould know this because we've talked for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

This is a shemale porn forum. How can you sit there with a straight face and say those things, and assume there'll be no backlash? If i went on a nurses aide forum and said, "You guys change diapers and spread Preparation H on 80 yr old anuses, not because you want to but, because you lack the education and the drive to do anything else", what kind of reaction do you think I'd get? Seriously.

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Yeah, and seriously..Do you ever take everything said or typed here to heart? I don't see even the most drop dead gorgeous girls on here give anything said here a time of day! Meaning, IF it was the while bunch saying the same things, maybe its me. But it's only YOU! So I guess you're the one with mental issues and anguish.

Admit it, YOU got a vendetta. Not only to me but other people who talks back to you and put you where you belong! No more/no less! :roll:

~Kisses.

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Wow. That's hard to understand. Maybe there's a language barrier. I didn't get half of that. Why do you keep using exclamation points so much?

And why are you talking badly about any TS here? That's my point. Do you really think that you fit the bill of a "true" TS over Bella? You like topping guys. Admit it. And you haven't done anything to transition permanently yet. Taking hormones on and off is not much of a transition. How do we know that you're not just part time?

Also, who are you to remind anyone of anything when you haven't done a blessed thing yourself? Remind me of where I came from? You think I lived with my parents when we met. lol What the hell are you going to remind me of? See, there's that same shit attitude which you copped with Bella. Like you're an authority on anything. Like you can call her "untrue" because she's not a bottom, or because she has a son. That's really horrible. Who the hell are you to talk like that? How dare you?

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Wow. That's hard to understand. Maybe there's a language barrier. I didn't get half of that. Why do you keep using exclamation points so much?

And why are you talking badly about any TS here? That's my point. Do you really think that you fit the bill of a "true" TS over Bella? You like topping guys. Admit it. And you haven't done anything to transition permanently yet. Taking hormones on and off is not much of a transition. How do we know that you're not just part time?

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I talked badly about YOU and YOU alone. Again, STOP acting like, you're the the official POSTER CHILD or face of porn and escorting. YOU are NOT!

Oh and I do both..I switch! So what the hell are you talking about? There are tg's that's gotten breast and had them taken out. Implants are not a permanent way to transition, nor is it irreversible! Oh you know, trust me. You're just in denial, upset and has a vendetta towards me. We should have let Jay met us in NYC back then. Maybe if we did, then he can attest to who's a ts and who wasn't! lol Remind me again why we didn't meet him, please?

~Kisses.

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Originally Posted by Hara_Juku Tgirl

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Wow. That's hard to understand. Maybe there's a language barrier. I didn't get half of that. Why do you keep using exclamation points so much?

And why are you talking badly about any TS here? That's my point. Do you really think that you fit the bill of a "true" TS over Bella? You like topping guys. Admit it. And you haven't done anything to transition permanently yet. Taking hormones on and off is not much of a transition. How do we know that you're not just part time?

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I talked badly about YOU and YOU alone. Again, STOP acting like, you're the the official POSTER CHILD or face of porn and escorting. YOU are NOT!

Oh and I do both..I switch! So what the hell are you talking about? There are tg's that's gotten breast and had them taken out. Implants are not permanent nor is it irreversible! Oh you know, trust me. You're just in denial, upset and has a vendetta towards me. We should have let Jay met us in NYC back then. Maybe if we did, then he can attest to who's a ts and who wasn't! lol

~Kisses.

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This has nothing to do with Jay's opinion in '05. lol Attest to what? That you looked like a CD? lol What the hell are talking about now?

I'm asking you why you think that taking hormones inconsistently somehow makes you a more authentic TS. I'm not calling myself the official anything, but I'm far more conventional than you in what I've done to transition. You haven't done a blessed thing. Most people don't even believe you're fulltime. I mean, I I know don't. Julie doesn't. Lot's of people don't. If I started telling you who else, maybe you'd see how bizarre the whole thing really sounds. No one thinks that what you've done is truly transitioning. You may think you're a woman. That I believe. lol

But is it just not having a cock that you see as genuine transsexuality? And you really believe that you're as fully transitioned as, say, Allanah or Jennifer Paris or anyone else? It all comes down to SRS? I can't believe you're serious. That's like saying a castrato is a partial M2F TS.

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Also, who are you to remind anyone of anything when you haven't done a blessed thing yourself?

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I haven't done a blessed thing myself? Um let's see, I got my brothers and sisters here in the states. And I am still helping send 2 to college. Isn't that enough blessed thing to do for my family? The one's in the US now makes good money to provide to their family. And the one's still in school, eventually will! So who are you to question mine? I'd much rather prefer to help out my family, than have superficial surgeries which I can always get later on. Once I'm done helping them. You'd never understand this because our priorities and culture are opposite and different! Yes, I got a big heart and isn't self centered. So again, why is this a problem for you? You don't dictate what I do with my money, I do!

~Kisses.

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I cant believe this has gone on for 11 pages.

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Also, who are you to remind anyone of anything when you haven't done a blessed thing yourself?

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I haven't done a blessed thing myself? Um let's see, I got my brothers and sisters here in the states. And I am still helping send 2 to college. Isn't that enough blessed thing to do for my family? The one's in the US now makes good money to provide to their family. And the one's still in school, eventually will! So who are you to question mine? I'd much rather prefer to help out my family, than have superficial surgeries which I can always get later on. Once I'm done helping them. You'd never understand this because our priorities and culture are opposite and different! Yes, I got a big heart and isn't self centered. So again, why is this a problem for you? You don't dictate what I do with my money, I do!

~Kisses.

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Wow. All those exclamation marks. Honestly, is that a cultural thing too?

Anyway, you know exactly what I meant. And don't give that "big heart" BS. You implied that you somehow see yourself as more of an authority on being TS, and I'm asking you how. You did indeed go back and forth with Bella over her sexual preferences, her child, and whether or not she was a "true" TS. So wtf are lying for? And btw, you are NOT going to tell me that you avoided transitioning because you're from the PI, and that gives you license to say who is and who is not "true". Besides, you live here now. You know better. C'mon now. I've known plenty of girls from there who have left you in the dust. You're not that feminine, so why would you not need surgeries until so late?

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This has nothing to do with Jay's opinion in '05. lol Attest to what? That you looked like a CD? lol What the hell are talking about now?

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Lmao a cd? OMG! Ok so lets entertain that thought for a second. If back then I was a cd as you were trying to make out. Then what does that make you? You were a man back then. Not in transition and most certainly not on hormones. :lol:

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I'm asking you why you think that taking hormones inconsistently somehow makes you a more authentic TS.

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If you;re a real ts then, you should know the answer to that one! As far as I know, HRT is given a year or two at the most before someone gets SRS. Now given, when one isn't ready fr SRS, taking hrt continuously affects everything - health-wise. Who wants to be like a raging lunatic then suicidal the next? Sorry. I certainly do not care for those extreme mood swings. Also, being on hormones for a long time affects your libido. Which if you are a real ts like you claimed, you should know all these things.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

I'm not calling myself the official anything, but I'm far more conventional than you in what I've done to transition.

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So you should be happy then, right? So why are you comparing yourself to me? tell you what..When I get breast, lets fucking compare eachother and maybe even do a double layout for yum! Are you up for it? lol

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

You haven't done a blessed thing.

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I haven't done a blessed thing myself? Um let's see, I got my brothers and sisters here in the states. And I am still helping send 2 to college. Isn't that enough blessed thing to do for my family? The one's in the US now makes good money to provide to their family. And the one's still in school, eventually will! So who are you to question mine? I'd much rather prefer to help out my family, than have superficial surgeries which I can always get later on. Once I'm done helping them. You'd never understand this because our priorities and culture are opposite and different! Yes, I got a big heart and isn't self centered. So again, why is this a problem for you? You don't dictate what I do with my money, I do!

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Most people don't even believe you're fulltime. I mean, I I know don't. Julie doesn't. Lot's of people don't.

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That doesn't really matter to me. I'm not here looking for a ts gf. I'm not into tg's. I know myself and friends & family knows what I am. Other than them, I could only give a shit what my other half (if I meet him) thinks. The rest I couldn't give a shit!

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

But is it just not having a cock that you see as genuine transsexuality? And you really believe that you're as fully transitioned as, say, Allanah or Jennifer Paris or anyone else? It all comes down to SRS? I can't believe you're serious. That's like saying a castrato is a partial M2F TS.

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That's a wrong assessment. I think and believe that the Transgender umbrella holds many variations. So no, I don't see tg's who has cocks inferior to tg's who's gotten the snip. But what's this got to do with anything?

~Kisses.

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