IMUS IMUS IMUS.........................

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Originally Posted by ILuvGurls

as i read this i can't help but laugh at the people that think jackson or sharpton are on the up and up.

if you think these guys are around for the good of society....you have not been around long enough....don't care if you are black, white, yellow....whatever

ROBBERS

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Yeah, yeah, attack the messenger, and the people they usually take on are really on the up and up, right?

I have a Q for the African-American members..

When a black man call another man a "nigga" or says he is nappy headed or what have you...its ok.

When a white man says it,he's a the scum of the earth and needs to be immediately silenced....or has a serious ass kicking coming.

When a rap artist says things like:

Give me a black goddess sister I can't resist her. No stringy haired, blonde
hair, blue eyed, pale skinned buttermilk complexion. Grafted, recessive,
depressive, ironing board backside straight up and straight down. No
frills, no thrills, Miss six o'clock, subject to have the itch, mutanoid,
caucazoid, white cave bitch...

[Verse One: Ice Cube]

Ease back white bitch, I don't play that
Just because I got on my L.A. hat
Stalkin' walking in my big black boots
Is my jingle, now you want Mandingo
Big, black and handsome
I should hold your devil ass for ransome
Sorta like Patty Herst, but I'll burst first bitch
And you know what's worse
I'm coming from the land where the choppers roam
So phuck you bitch and your Coppertone
Stringy hair - no derrier - frontin' and fakin' with your silicone pair
Do I wanna phuck? Not hardly
That's kinda like Barbie phuckin' Bob Marley
It ain't gonna happen, I keep rappin'
Muthaphuck Teniell, but see I'm the Captain of this ship
And I'm true to the game
Ya all look the same
Standin' by my backstage door, hopin' that'll switch
Spread out you little cave bitch

[Verse Two: Ice Cube]

Why everytime we get famous
You wanna play us like Andy and Amos?
The devil sent you to try and tame us
But you can't tame me, with no bitch named Amy
Lookin' for the dark meat
But ho, I ain't tryin' to go out like Barkely
Cuz everytime I turn on the TV
I see several brothers with she-devils
Smilin' cuz you out on a date
But sooner or later, the bitch'll yell rape
Soon as daddy found out you a jigaboo
He'll kill like he did Emmitt Till
Yah, he tried to kick bass
But the bitch probably threw it in his face
Sargent Bale ain't nothin' but a trick
Nasty as hell, stanky little cave bitch

[Verse Three:]

Now don't think that I hate you
Cuz I won't date you, bitch I gotta stay true
You can be a fan, but don't expand
And try to get my dick in your hand
You better run to the minute man
Pale as snow, so act like y'know
Cuz if I slap it, flip it, and rub it like that
Yeah, it gotta be black
Plus yo ass too flat
I need a butt big enough that can clap
Rat-a-tat-tat
You can't get mine ho
I'd rather phuck an albino
Atleast I know, she's comin' from the Nubian
And not the Ku Klux Klan that you be in
And I don't give a fuck if your family is rich
You're still a little cave bitch

its okay,its funny it sells millions yet Imus comments equal him to the devil.

African Americans make the call for equality,yet through their lifestyle,vocabulary,culture and behaviour they show a complete and total double standard.Whats good and OK for us aint okay for you....

Q: How can blacks expect equality when its rubbed in the faces of white america that they can exist and behave on a level that no white dare tread upon.Its a double standard...it cannot be both.

Double Standards LOL why do people continue to use that excuse,they say it so thats our excuse for saying it.

Their is no double standards blacks or whites shouldn't use the n word or any other racial insult,address the current problem don't look for excuses.

Damn....you nailed it DJ_Asia

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Originally Posted by johnb

Have you listened to rap lyrics, and heard how they describe women?
Is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson advocating boycotting their cd's and concerts?
NO.
What he said was fucked up, but there is a double standard.
btw, i'm not a republican.

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Actually yes......there is a article,an editorial which say that Al Sharpton has led boycotts and went to the producers and distributers of the filthy rap lyrics.
I can find the link if you like.

By the way republican.....I just walked past two white guys in a rural town who refer to each other as "nigga".........PERFECT.

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Originally Posted by Legend

Double Standards LOL why do people continue to use that excuse,they say it so thats our excuse for saying it.

Their is no double standards blacks or whites shouldn't use the n word or any other racial insult,address the current problem don't look for excuses.

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Legend,

There are many acts in this world that "shouldnt" take place yet they do.You cannot skew the rules to meet your fantasy...you must deal the hand you were dealt.People say the N word all the time...whites and blacks...for one its cool...for another its not...thats UN-EQUAL...no matter what slant you reflect it against.

Each of these issues are interconnected and to deal w/ racism is to deal with entire spectrum from both sides.

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Originally Posted by DJ_Asia

its okay,its funny it sells millions yet Imus comments equal him to the devil.

African Americans make the call for equality,yet through their lifestyle,vocabulary,culture and behaviour they show a complete and total double standard.Whats good and OK for us aint okay for you....

Q: How can blacks expect equality when its rubbed in the faces of white america that they can exist and behave on a level that no white dare tread upon.Its a double standard...it cannot be both.

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I can't speak for the blacks here, and won't try to, but as one who grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood, and whose best friend happens to be African-American, I feel I can offer insight that ones growing up in a lily white neighborhood or have never had any close African-American friends can't.

Your questions have to do with Private versus Public language. Whatever jargon, lexicon, vocabulary, slang, speech, etc., they or any minority has between them is theirs to run roughshod over with FIRST. Some of it eventually crosses into the mainstream, but some of it doesn't, e.g., Nigga, Nigger. Imus is white, and one identified as from the party of power and privilege historically, so that's a double whammy to say the least and verbotten. He shouldn't joke around with terms that even black leaders such as Sharpton and Jackson have decried and have been at work to remove.

Unless you are from a race that has been historically oppressed in this country, or have been followed in a store simply because of your color, you aren't likely to understand.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

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When a black man call another man a "nigga" or says he is nappy headed or what have you...its ok.

When a white man says it,he's a the scum of the earth and needs to be immediately silenced....or has a serious ass kicking coming.

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You have to understand that the context that urban america is using it is completely different from what a Caucasian using it as. Nigga and Nigger is not the same. Just like Bear, Bare, and Beer are not the same. Completely different.

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Unisex,

I understand the context/usage thoughts you provide,yet that doesnt address the Q I posed....which is...

Regardless of reasoning or justification how can one group call for equality when they fail to offer it to opposing group on all fronts?

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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me

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Originally Posted by DJ_Asia

its okay,its funny it sells millions yet Imus comments equal him to the devil.

African Americans make the call for equality,yet through their lifestyle,vocabulary,culture and behaviour they show a complete and total double standard.Whats good and OK for us aint okay for you....

Q: How can blacks expect equality when its rubbed in the faces of white america that they can exist and behave on a level that no white dare tread upon.Its a double standard...it cannot be both.

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I can't speak for the blacks here, and won't try to, but as one who grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood, and whose best friend happens to be African-American, I feel I can offer insight that ones growing up in a lily white neighborhood or have never had any close African-American friends can't.

Your questions have to do with Private versus Public language. Whatever jargon, lexicon, vocabulary, slang, speech, etc., they or any minority has between them is theirs to run roughshod over with FIRST. Some of it eventually crosses into the mainstream, but some of it doesn't, e.g., Nigga, Nigger. Imus is white, and one identified as from the party of power and privilege historically, so that's a double whammy to say the least and verbotten. He shouldn't joke around with terms that even black leaders such as Sharpton and Jackson have been at work to remove.

Unless you are from a race that has been historically oppressed in this country, or have been followed in a store simply because of your color, you aren't likely to understand.

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That's basically how i look at it no one should be able to dictate and try to excuse what is offensive unless you have been what these races have been through jewish,black people etc.Unless you have been through what they have you shouldn't ask why is it offensive.

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Originally Posted by dreamer

I dunno --I think there's a huge double standard -----and I think any punishment is too much ---I dunno ---like yeah --rap music ---Dave Chapelle ----if we are all equal --we should all be able to say the same things ---------------yeah --maybe rap music and Chapelle's statements and insults --or racial slurrs ---are in jest ----but it wasn't like Don Imus was YELLING --or DAMNING these women to hell eternal ---he was being a wise ass --tongue in cheek --smirk smirk -carry on ---trying to be FUNNY ---kinda like Chapelle --------seriously ---if Dave Chapelle called some chick a "nappy headed ho" ---in a sketch/skit ------do you think anyone would give a crap? ---



and yeah ---what the hell is "nappy-headed" ---anyways?

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Ok let me explain it to you non-blacks out there.
There are VERY few BLACK talk show hosts out there......thats why you have to compare a white talk show host such as rush or michael savage or Imus to a COMEDIAN or athlete.
Its not the same.
Imus bring in hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars in ad revenue to CBS and NBC which is why he hasnt been fired over past transgressions.
Tim Hardaways comments were almost UNIVERSALLY panned......except by the NAACP ironicly.
But to compare Tim Hardaway or Mel Gibson or even Michael Richards to a talk show host........its not applicable and if you cant understand that I cant help you.