WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange handed himself in to British police

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Weren't the Watergate tapes stolen? Should CBS have been prosecuted?

~BB~

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Ahhh yes...play the old watergate card....ya sure ya wanna go there with me Bella?? Think about it....

Watergate= brake in of a hotel to scoop DNC secrets to gain the upperhand in an electorial process...and btw...lots of folks spent lots of time in jail. To my recollection none of that info was government "classified" but I'll have to go back to my old Woodard and Bernstien notes.

WikiLeaks= possession and distribution of classified State Department cables some mere gossip, but some involving secret discussions between the Lebenese Foreign Minister with US and Isreali officials regarding Hammas and Hezboloh.

Surely you can see the difference?

Imagine how ole Bernstien feels being compared to Assange by Bella !! LOL

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Ahhh yes...play the old watergate card....ya sure ya wanna go there with me Bella?? Think about it....

Watergate= brake in of a hotel to scoop DNC secrets to gain the upperhand in an electorial process...and btw...lots of folks spent lots of time in jail. To my recollection none of that info was government "classified" but I'll have to go back to my old Woodard and Bernstien notes.

WikiLeaks= possession and distribution of classified State Department cables some mere gossip, but some involving secret discussions between the Lebenese Foreign Minister with US and Isreali officials regarding Hammas and Hezboloh.

Surely you can see the difference?

Imagine how ole Bernstien feels being compared to Assange by Bella !! LOL

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your way too smart to be in this thread lol

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

ask your boyfriend

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Don't be too hard on him Lisa...Here's what I think he meant when he called you dope...or at least that's what I took away from it.....LOL

DOPE>>>
A word that describes something that is extremely cool, such as music, clothes, people, etc.
Ain't nobody dope as me, I'm dressed so fresh so clean...Outkast

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Don't be too hard on him Lisa...Here's what I think he meant when he called you dope...or at least that's what I took away from it.....LOL

DOPE>>>
A word that describes something that is extremely cool, such as music, clothes, people, etc.
Ain't nobody dope as me, I'm dressed so fresh so clean...Outkast

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marry me lol no were cool i actually like him lol but tx babe,ps. go vote for me in the H.A. realitty thread lol

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Weren't the Watergate tapes stolen? Should CBS have been prosecuted?

~BB~

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No. Their existence was just revealed by a Whitehouse aide during the Senate hearing & they were subpoenaed by Archibald Cox.

I believe you're thinking of the Pentagon Papers. Ellsberg & Russo used their clearances as analysts to copy shitlosds of incriminating documents from the Pentagon (during the height of VietNam I might add) & turned them over to the New York Times, who started publishing them as a series. An injunction (first prior restraint injunction against the press in US history) was issued, but was lifted when all the rest of the papers in the country got them & started putting them out. The espiionage charges were eventually dropped against Ellsburg & Russo.

I don't believe any publisher has ever been charged with espionage. That's all wikileaks is. They didn't leak the documents from the original source as far as anyone knows.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Ahhh yes...play the old watergate card....ya sure ya wanna go there with me Bella?? Think about it....

Watergate= brake in of a hotel to scoop DNC secrets to gain the upperhand in an electorial process...and btw...lots of folks spent lots of time in jail. To my recollection none of that info was government "classified" but I'll have to go back to my old Woodard and Bernstien notes.

WikiLeaks= possession and distribution of classified State Department cables some mere gossip, but some involving secret discussions between the Lebenese Foreign Minister with US and Isreali officials regarding Hammas and Hezboloh.

Surely you can see the difference?

Imagine how ole Bernstien feels being compared to Assange by Bella !! LOL

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OMG, really?! Those people went to jail because they broke criminal law. In this case, while the information is classified, it belongs to the government, and I'm sorry to remind everybody of this, but the government belongs to us. Regardless of those facts, nobody in the media was prosecuted over Watergate, and so the idea of prosecuting Assange for 'stealing' what is ours is so completely ridiculous to me, Bernstein's credentials versus Assange's renegade status aside.

... but Manning should die in prison for violating about a gazzillion civil and military laws, the most important being those pertaining not to espionage since there was no direct aid to an enemy, but to treason.

~BB~

Has anyone seen the video tapes from the apache helicopter killing journalists by the way? From wikileaks. It's pretty ugly. You should have a look. It may change your point of view.

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Originally Posted by hippifried

No. Their existence was just revealed by a Whitehouse aide during the Senate hearing & they were subpoenaed by Archibald Cox.

I believe you're thinking of the Pentagon Papers. Ellsberg & Russo used their clearances as analysts to copy shitlosds of incriminating documents from the Pentagon (during the height of VietNam I might add) & turned them over to the New York Times, who started publishing them as a series. An injunction (first prior restraint injunction against the press in US history) was issued, but was lifted when all the rest of the papers in the country got them & started putting them out. The espiionage charges were eventually dropped against Ellsburg & Russo.

I don't believe any publisher has ever been charged with espionage. That's all wikileaks is. They didn't leak the documents from the original source as far as anyone knows.

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For some reason I had it in my head that Deep Throat had actually stolen the tapes. Thank you for that clarification and for reiterating my point.

~BB~

Only if boobs were brains. Eh Lisa?

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

im pretty sure im not a fanatic exept my leafs of course im not religeous and i do believe in freedom of speech nut last i checked he aint speaking and never did so this has nothing to do with freedom of speach period,he leaked private government documents not knowing what was in them nor caring whats in them and hes not done yet,we both know what he did was extemely wrong period who pointed him judge and jury of what we need to know and see?i doubt i can change anyones mind in here nor do i care but as long as people see him as a hero ill keep posting in realitty hes no robin hood hes a snake plain and simple.if ya wanna talk fanatics that would be his followers you know the hackers who took down visa and mastercard

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This isn't true: "(Julian Assange) leaked private government documents not knowing....) It was Bradley Manning who leaked the information.
Bradley Manning is the leaker, as it were. But he, as yet, hasn't been convicted. (But, again, why aren't we charging The N.Y. Times and The Guardian and Der Spiegel for PUBLISHING the leaked cables?)
"Manning was arrested by agents of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command in May 2010 and held in pre-trial confinement..."
And:
"On July 5, 2010, two misconduct charges were brought against him for 'transferring classified data onto his personal computer and adding unauthorized software to a classified computer system' and 'communicating, transmitting and delivering national defense information to an unauthorized source....'"
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"The charges included unauthorized access to Secret Internet Protocol routers network computers, download of more than 150,000 United States Department of State diplomatic cables, download of a classified Microsoft powerpoint presentation, and downloading a classified video of a military operation in Baghdad on July 12, 2007. Manning is also charged for forwarding the video and at least one of the cables to an unauthorized person."