I think we should have a civil war......

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Originally Posted by paulgutierrez

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by Dirky

For every guy like jcinva who considers all trans 'men', there's an overwhelming majority of us that think of you as women.

I wouldn't get too worked up over it, really.

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Dirky, I appreciate the sentiment, but what's wrong will never be right.

It will never be ok to label pre-op M2F sexworkers as "untrue" transsexuals.

It will never be ok to refer to pre-op M2F sexworkers as "gayboys with boobs".

It will never be ok for anonymous men to refer to ANY M2F as "male".

It will never be ok to paint escorting as a job with no future.

It will never be ok to portray M2F sexworkers as vapid and superficial.

I don't care who stays on HA. But if you want to dish it out, be prepared to take it. We may not be the most unified "community", but we're not going to roll over and die for a bunch of cowardly masturbators hiding in their closets and behind their computer screens. Or, at least I know that I won't.

And to some degree, those who are not with us actually ARE against us. So I suggest that those of you who do indeed appreciate us as women, regardless of our genitalia. stand up and be counted. Otherwise, download your free porn and, please, stfu. We've never needed you smug cowards before, and we sure as hell don't need you now.

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What are you a sheminazi?

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Are you fucking nuts? lol I love being objectified and given false validation on MY terms. 8)

So, no. I'm no feminist, but I can most definitely be a royal CUNT. lol

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Originally Posted by dgs925

I want to join the jcinva fan club, reading this thread he just comes out on top. It's like he uses logic to back up his arguments, as radical an idea as that is.

Like him, I come here for the hot pics - but haven't drunk the kool aid yet. Unlike him though, I am willing to participate in the charade for the benefit of you ladies. You say you are women, I'll say you are women. In the end, at least in this little corner of the internet, it'll almost be like you actually are women.

It's only when people try to accuse each other of being the gay ones, that someone has to stand up and shatter the illusion saying "um, guys, we are all gay here". Thanks, jcinva, for being the one to say that.

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If you can't respect us please stop posting here.That goes for both of you

Some guys are just idiots, nuff said. There's a good portion of the guys on this forum have never been with a transsexual and they are fixated on this sexual fantasy fetish. I think if the guys call the girls: men, fags, gayboys, battyboys, or what the fuck ever, then the guys should be banned. Because nobody came here for the guys to sprew their 10 cent psychobabble, guys (and some girls) come here for the pictures and to talk to transsexuals.

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Originally Posted by blonde_sweetheart

If you can't respect us please stop posting here.That goes for both of you

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Thanks for talking to me cutie, but I'll stay. I respect you, but don't believe everything you believe.

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Originally Posted by bte

I think if the guys call the girls: men, fags, gayboys, battyboys, or what the fuck ever, then the guys should be banned

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First off, wtf is a battyboy? Second, from your argument I take it you believe that a girl calling a guy a fag is OK, as well as a guy calling another guy a fag. Those aren't bannable, but call a girl a guy and get the fuck out?

I don't need to point out the logical inconsistencies there.

Batty boy (bhatti boy or batty bwoy) is just another name for a gay person.

Name calling is never okay, but if a girl calls you a fag and you know you're not, then don't sweat it. If a boy calls a girl a boy then thats unacceptable, considering that without the girls on the forum then it would just be a bunch of guys trading pics of t-girls. Although I imagine that we would still have the discussions of "Am I gay?" even if there are no girls on the forum.

Guys who have no connection to TS women irl are the only one's trapped in this "M2F are actually gay males" quagmire of their own making.

God, it must suck to be them.

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Originally Posted by bte

If a boy calls a girl a boy then thats unacceptable, considering that without the girls on the forum then it would just be a bunch of guys trading pics of t-girls.

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Excellent point, I'll cut that out now.

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Originally Posted by dgs925

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Originally Posted by blonde_sweetheart

If you can't respect us please stop posting here.That goes for both of you

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Thanks for talking to me cutie, but I'll stay. I respect you, but don't believe everything you believe.



First off, wtf is a battyboy? Second, from your argument I take it you believe that a girl calling a guy a fag is OK, as well as a guy calling another guy a fag. Those aren't bannable, but call a girl a guy and get the fuck out?

I don't need to point out the logical inconsistencies there.

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Jcinva is obviously ok with being gay, so why can't we call him a 'fag'? If you believe that you're gay too, why not just accept it when we actually call you gay? I'm very close friends with all kinds of people, fags and dykes included. Queers have no issue with being called "queer". Every gay guy I know throws around the the "f" and the "q" words. So why are you two such touchy homos?

Actually, I do know exactly why. lol ;) Ya know what you and jcinva are actually telling? You're both telling us that you're in the closet. Anyone who falls into the lgbt category can tell you that.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Jcinva is obviously ok with being gay, so why can't we call him a 'fag'? If you believe that you're gay too, why not just accept it when we actually call you gay? I'm very close friends with all kinds of people, fags and dykes included. Queers have no issue with being called "queer". Every gay guy I know throws around the the "f" and the "q" words. So why are you two such touchy homos?

Actually, I do know exactly why. lol ;) Ya know what you and jcinva are actually telling? You're both telling us that you're in the closet. Anyone who falls into the lgbt category can tell you that.

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And, of course, it comes right back to point #1 -

If you believe that a man is gay for fantasizing or engaging in sexual acts with a transsexual, then it follows - inescapably - that you, Nicole, believe - really, truly believe, that M2F transsexuals, including yourself...

ARE GUYS.

Sorry, Nikki - can't have your cake and eat it on this point. You get to sling around the H, G, or F words about all the cumguzzling, knob polishers on the board, as much as you like. In doing so, however, you concede to your deepest, most personal belief, that despite all the surgeries, make up, ranting, and that awesome little Tranny Manifesto you posted back a couple pages ago

despite page after page of denial

you still believe yourself to be a guy.

Otherwise, you'd be the first to take a bullet before you'd permit one of your "admirers" to be tagged by anyone with the epithet, "queer."

Because permitting an "admirer" to be labeled a "queer" or "fag" says as much about you, as it does them.

Thank you & Good night.

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Originally Posted by jcinva

And, of course, it comes right back to point #1 -

If you believe that a man is gay for fantasizing or engaging in sexual acts with a transsexual, then it follows - inescapably - that you, Nicole, believe - really, truly believe, that M2F transsexuals, including yourself...

ARE GUYS.

Sorry, Nikki - can't have your cake and eat it on this point. You get to sling around the H, G, or F words about all the cumguzzling, knob polishers on the board, as much as you like. In doing so, however, you concede to your deepest, most personal belief, that despite all the surgeries, make up, ranting, and that awesome little Tranny Manifesto you posted back a couple pages ago

despite page after page of denial

you still believe yourself to be a guy.

Otherwise, you'd be the first to take a bullet before you'd permit one of your "admirers" to be tagged by anyone with the epithet, "queer."

Because permitting an "admirer" to be labeled a "queer" or "fag" says as much about you, as it does them.

Thank you & Good night.

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Dummy, you're not placating me here. The only point anything's coming to, on this thread, is the one on your head.

You, and your internal struggle with your OWN sexuality, are what's queer here.

Gay men are notorious for only zoning in on genitalia, and that's exactly what you've done and are continuing to do.

But, hey. It's ok. Cock comes first for you. We totally get it. Furthermore, we still love you as a human being. We don't care if you're gay.

Women rarely do. So, if you need your dick on a girl to make it seem any less gay for you, we'll simply let you enjoy it and be done with it.

But, sweetheart, I'm STILL a chick with a dick.

You're the gay man here.

Not me.

You.

Not the guys who appreciate our beauty FIRST.

You.

Not the women who appreciate a handsome man for simply being a handsome man.

YOU.

So you're never proving a fucking thing at this rate, Mr Paralegal Drill Sargent.

Only fags argue with women anyway, and you most certainly have nothing to worry about proving when it comes to doing that.