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Originally Posted by keepingitreal470
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The discrimination transsexuals deal with is far worse than it ever was for gay, blacks and whatever others.
You have got to be fucking kidding me right?
Last time I checked transsexuals weren't taken from there home, loaded on a ship, and sent to a far off place to be slaves.
Last time I checked transsexuals weren't forced to work on plantations picking cotton against there will.
Last time I checked transsexuals weren't sprayed with fire hoses or had attack dogs sicked on them.
Last time I checked transsexuals could drink from public drinking fountains.
Last time I checked transsexuals could vote.
Last time I checked transsexuals weren't lynched on a daily basis.
Last time I checked transsexuals........................... ETC
I am not saying transsexuals have it easy but HOLY TAP-DANCING CHRIST!
CO-SIGN CO-SIGN CO-SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats actually fucking insulting to what my people suffered thru and survived. To compare the gay rights struggle to all of the above is probably the dumbest shit I've EVER read in my life. I'm very serious. Its not even close.
I am not comparing the two, but if you know the history of gay and trans people- we have been put through plenty of shit throughout history as well.
The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands of gays in concentration camps,
in this country until just a few decades ago you go be jailed, beaten, harrased for going to a gay bar or dressing like a woman- something that became legal in NYC just in the late 60's. Throughout American history there have been many political movements set out to opress LGBT people(which are still going on heavily). Trans women face a a multitude of discriminations in today's society both socialy and economically and trans people are still being killed for being trans people. And to be fair, the African American community, as stated by the President himself, has been less than kind and accepting of LGBT people as well on many occassions- something that I don't understand considering what black people have faced in the US.
While it's impossible to compare the two situations, please don't minimilaze the fact that gays and trans people have been persucted in this heavily country and still are. Please don't minimize that or state that the stuggles that trans women face are somehow trivial.
This video clip in fact is a great example of what some ts women face all the time.
My comments really were directed at Julie and not yourself. You didn't make the stupid ass statement, she did. But since you chimed in, let me give you one more reason you should never compare what blacks have gone thru to what gays have. We were born this way. We can't change our skin color. Transitioning is a choice. Say what you will but society will always see it as a choice. I've never seen a trannie hung in public, tarred and feathered, for their choice.
You have got to be kidding with your ignorant and simplistic statements?
First, someone who is part of this community should very well know that transitioning is absolutely NOT a choice. By saying so, you are adding to the ignorant social stigma that exist by those who have no understanding of what this gender is, and I assume you have some sort of understanding\? I was born this way- I HAD NO CHOICE. If I had not done this I would most like be DEAD by now. I had absolutely no choice in the way that I was born- how effiminate I was and how I naturally acted like a girl and suffered dearly for it growing up. I have always acted and had the same manorisms since I can remember, I just simply chnaged the physical apperance to fit my actions, behavior, and mind.
Was it my choice to be taunted, bullied, and abused by other kids fromt he time I was five years old for being so feminine and living with that abuse until I was 16? NO
Was it my choice to have been beaten up by a gang when I was 18 for appearing to feminine? NO. I was beaten up, my skull cracked and was called a fag all the way through it. That is a HATE crime.
I was simply born a way that I could not hide or change, it's just who I am and trust me I have paid the price for it. I am a lucky one that I was able to transtion which indeed has been a blessing as far I am much more happier but that does not mean that I still can't face discrimination and social stigma.
Are you really suggesting that violence towards transsexuals does not exists in our society today?
Maybe you have never seen a transseuxal woman hung in public, tarred and feather but I am sure you are very well aware that transsexuals are indeed STILL murdered (in public) sometimes as the case of Lateisha Green, was shot and killed by Dwight DeLee in Syracuse, NY in 2008 because she was a ts.
What about Leslie Mora, who was attacked by two men in Queens this summer as she was going home. They beat her with a belt right on the street as they called her 'faggot, left hr bloody and cowering on the floor' until a car stopped and helped her.
What about Carmella Etienne who was simply walking on the street a few days later in Queens also ,when two men began to assult her throwing bottles and rocks at her? And when she threatned to call he police
"One of the two men responded, "The police don't care about you, they won't do anything to us," and began to pelt her with bottles. Another shouted at her, "Don't ever walk that block anymore or we will slash your throat."
As you can't change your skin color, I can't change my gender and who I am.
So please- as you are educated in the the history of the plight for equality of blacks in this country-you should become a little more educated on LGBT issues and what WE have gone through and go through still.
It's definately not the same struggle, nor am I comparing it- BUT it is a struggle- LGBT people are one of the most marginalized groups in this country with lesser rights than any other citezens in this country.