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antiasskisser you have serious issues, I am not racist. Still believing the chatroom fun Haze and Johnny were having? Pathetic.
Oh wait this is like that dirty tactic Obama did with Hil's health plan. Sending out flyers lying to them. Is that what you mean Felicia by playing dirty?
He wasn't exactly a saint.
So stop acting like it.
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Originally Posted by Realgirls4me
Whomever gets elected hopefully they are strong on border control.
For the record, let Legend's latest slop of a post confirm that he is not only stupid and ignorant, but a bigot too -- the most basic form of ignorance one can be saddled with. That's two shots he's taken at me via Mexican-Americans. Where did race factor in? What's the matter, Legend, can't stick to the facts and issues at hand? You been hit so hard you're grasping at anything you can such as the race low road?
... Like a college professor once warned us about bigots: "Be wary of anyone who differentiates another person by his/her race or ethnicity ... they usually don't stop differentiating at one."
Why not reveal your stereotypes and generalizations of Jews, Muslims, Puerto-Ricans, African-Americans, Cubans, et all, Legend? ...Show us, you redneck cartoon!
Kelly, a health plan is a legitimate campaign issue. Suggesting your opponent is a Muslim is not. Reminding voters he is not white is not.
You are an intelligent person, and I'm glad to see you show it in these discussions. But you are misinformed on the heatlh care flyer, which said that Clinton's plan requires all Americans to buy insurance. Brooks Jackson, director of factcheck.org says the claim is "out of context" and "strains the facts," but that to call it false is "an exaggeration in itself."
Clinton and Obama have been exaggerating the differences between their two health care plans. Jackson says the plans are quite similar. The main difference is that Clinton has what she calls a "personal mandate," a requirement that every individual obtain health care coverage — Obama does not.
Hilllary claims her "mandate" is not mandatory by not specifying the penalties, means of enforcement, or whether there would be any exemption for hardship cases. But by any reasonable definition, to mandate is to require, which is more than pretty much what the flyer said.
While she cried wolf about Obama's flyer, Clinton was no innocent Red Riding Hood with her own. Her campaign sent out a mailer that twisted Obama's words and gave a false picture of his proposals on Social Security, home foreclosures and energy, accusing Obama of favoring a $1 trillion tax increase on Social Security. Factcheck.org's Jackson called her flyer a "big distortion."
This is all water under the bridge. Obama is the nominee. Hillary is not. The question is whether we cross that bridge with Obama, or stay stuck in the muck and mire and mud left underneath it by Bush, by voting for McCain. For me, the choice is as clear now as the poltics may have been dirty then.
Obama wins, we win.
Peace
FK
Not true in the least, he is backed by the same as Mccain. Thats how he got all those big profits for his election. As El Nino said.
He will do their bidding. He is bought.
Kelly, I think you meant to reply in the other thread, but its all good.
Don't take my word for it. Google it. Obama has raised record amounts for his campaign from primarily small donors. He has so many that the FEC computer's spreadsheets couldn't handle it. He couldn't outraise McCain if they had the same donors.
Politicians may seem more alike than different, but Obama is very different than McCain who is just the same as Bush. The difference couldn't be more clear than it is on gay/transgender rights and marriage. Obama is for us, and McCain is agin us. As an activist, that issue alone should resonate with you and is why I keep trying to reason with you :)
FK
With gas over 4 dollars a gallon and a never ending pointless war that's costing Billions.....trillions even, with food going up, with jobs being lost,
Even with obvious obstacles (racial), I truly believe this is Obama's race to lose at this point.
It's pretty much 1992 all over again.
As cosmetic as it may sound, I believe it's Hillary's grating voice that sunk her boat.
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Originally Posted by melissacarter
no matter what i say ... i will be looked at as silly ...
i really don't know too much about either campaigns and i would vote fo Hillary solely on the belief that Obama would be killed because of some of the real racist people in this country...
i will however say that this thread has taught me alot about the up coming election .
Thanks guys ... it was alot of pages to read and i think that Wenndy had some ver valid points along with every one else :)
~mimi