Love and Lust

Tommy112277
I agree with your sentiments if not your conclusion.
In addition, please get your ass to a dentist and, while you are there, read a book on punctuation, LOL
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Originally Posted by Kabuki

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Originally Posted by Kurdy M

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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter

So many of you want to suck my shecock and swallow everything that comes out of me... over and over every day of you lives. Don't you hate wishing and wanting? You want that feeling. You want to feel someone beautiful loves you.

Instead all of you are posting spam in here about meaningless "cum shots" or "big shemale cocks"... I mean what the fuck is that. You will just be fucking wanting it a year from now... 5 years from now... the rest of your lives.

I mean really why don't you do something about it? This forum has become pic collectors heaven and the good guys who started this site have left. Megabody almost never posts. This isn't what it was. You guys can post pictures and fantasize, but there are real TS girls who want what you want. Most of you are chicken shit and scared to take what is there. Fuck those of you who fantasize about us but wouldn't risk loving us. Fuck the girls who are so jaded they won't give you a chance.

I want a love story. I want to hear a TS and a guy made it and it was real. I need that. I want to know that what my parents and grandparents can happen to me and my friends. You might want to jack off wishing her cock was deep inside you, but until you really say it and mean it, and

Vicki

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Forget it Vicki, there are men who like transsexuals and men who don't.
The men who like them want to have sex with you, want to suck you cock, lick your ass, get fucked by you etc etc but when the sex is over do they want a realtionship with you? Probaly a few but the question is do you want them?
Then there are the men who are not into transsexuals, if they see you at first they might like what they see, maybe some of them will fall in love with you but the minute they find out what you are they are gone.
A good example here is Kelly who was in the Dutch Big Brother, no one knew she was a transsexual, she already made the transition. Ok she is tall over 6 ft but a lot a Dutch women are over 6 ft. In Big Brother she secuded a guy, the kissed in front of the camera and the guy was starting to fall in love with her. But when he found out...game over!!
I know Kelly very well, she lives close to me, she wrote a book about her transsexual life so far. Very very good looking girl but for her finding the right man is like mission impossible.

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Kelly is beautiful, but she would tower over me :cry:

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She is 6ft1 and that is tall.
In her book she describes her childhood were she was disgusted by her penis who only got bigger by the years.
She is a woman born in a wrong body.

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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter

I want a love story. I want to hear a TS and a guy made it and it was real. I need that. I want to know that what my parents and grandparents can happen to me and my friends. You might want to jack off wishing her cock was deep inside you, but until you really say it and mean it, and

Vicki

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Read my post here...
http://www.hungangels.com/board/view...hlight=#144900

We dated about 4 years, finally broke it off for a variety of reasons...

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Originally Posted by Unisex

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So to re-iterate, I don't get a sense that most of the men here are either looking for a relationship, or have the skill set to acquire and keep one.

Truly, I am not trying to deliver a low blow, but rather inform males that are looking for a relationship that they may need to re-evaluate their tactics and strategies.

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Well for me. I've only dealt with Genetic females. I don't seem to mesh in well with today's urban woman by any means.

I'm a geek. Through in and out and I don't see this part changing. I'm not the stereotypical Jaleel White from Family Matters. But, I am heavy into computers and gadgets. Not many genetic women are into this and couldn't care less about it. I don't play the corners like most of these "wanna be hustlers" and I'm not some thug or tuff guy or a baller with money to throw around on expensive vehicles and jewelery.

When I finally figured that it isn't going to work in my profile of a geek. I figured there has to be some alternative. Where I'm from, there are two types of females available;

*One's with children

or

*Conceited women.

I don't want kids, period. And, I'm trying to deal with some "chics attitude".

One thing both of these types of women have in common is they both want the same type of men. Thug,baller, hustler. I'm neither. You'll notice I have a few threads about books. Previous one here.

I like to read and I've tried for long time to figure out what exactly they see in type of lifestyle. Have I contemplated? Yes. Most of my brothers have about 35 years of time total. So, I was brought up with the "hard body" approach to things. It's not the same for me because I'd rather not end up like the rest of them.

A third alternative of woman is available. Transsexual. I came across this forum by way of a google search where a thread about thugs and women turned up. (I believe the thread was by a member, Thuggish Intellect)

I seen a few cute faces posted (Jade, Akasha, Athena, Celeste.etc) and decided to register and stay. After being registered for a year now, I know that'll probably never work because of fact that most women I've seen posted tend to escort or are promiscuous. Which is something I'm not cool with since I've never participated in either.

I also notice I have very little interest of what is between their legs. Or, to say I'm no where close to anyones "Bottom" or a cock bandit. Never have and never will.

So, I'm back to square one trying to figure out what kind of female is available for me. I can probably be contempt with just being single. But, I'm getting to the point where something has to give. Whether it's GG or TS.

Do I have the skill to retain a relationship? I didn't know a skill was required. I don't think I should have to use a Tatic for a LTR. I mean, other guys use materialism to get the female they want. Some use the image of a thug.

Look in a better location? The population here is dense and various ethnic backgrounds. But, the mentality of the women seem to be all the same.

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I was in an airport a few weeks back, waiting for a plane. I had my laptop out and was doing various things, work, surfing, etc.

So this guy comes by and comments on my laptop. We then start talking about laptops, dual-core processors, Vista the OS, smartphones, VOIP, and a variety of other 'techy' subjects.

We took a break from that for a while, and digressed to travel. We spoke about the countries that we had been to, and that we would like to go to.

We talked non stop for hours. What interested me in particular about this individual is that he was very intelligent, had a great sense of humor, and seemed to be a man of integrity. I found myself feeling giddy as a school girl :oops:

Then yesterday, on a totally different matter I found myself in a Borders bookstore for half the day. I meandered around the various sections, but spent the most time in the technology and travel sections, where I struck up mini conversations with various people.

Then too when I go to trainings, seminars, or conventions, I find many kindred spirits.

My point :roll:

Well, if you are looking for people that you have something in common with, then you should go where they are likely to be. And of course your odds of finding a transwoman in this sea pf people are slim to none. But at least you might meet a person with whom you have common interests.

And when you do meet this person, you most assuredly will need the interpersonal skills to engage them, and perhaps have a LTR result.

From what I have seen of you on this board, you appear to be a intelligent, sweet young man.

If I was a little younger or you a little older we might be talking about some peer to peer networking. :wink: cause you know I ain't down with client - server :lol:

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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter

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Anyway, the discussion is whether TS can have a happy relationship, and I say, of course. However, any sex worker, TS or otherwise are in for a long difficult road if that is a goal.

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I usually don't comment about these things, because I am one of those "unobtainable" married males who utilize this website for personal gratification, therefore, I am more part of the problem than the solution to this issue. I have had “encounters” with TS women, both escorts and not, but have no desire to “come out” with my love of the TS.
I do agree, however, that the ability for a TS to find love and a long term relationship is not an easy road. A good percentage of men attracted to TS women are in general “straight” men, and I think that these are also the men that TS women are attracted to as well. Outside of a small group of progressive thinkers, this attraction and/or coupling of a “straight” man and a TS is still considered a “gay” and therefore unacceptable union. A man risks being alienated from family and friends, as well as unaccepted in the business world (depending obviously on his vocation) if he is open about this type of union. This may not be fair, but it is unfortunately still true.
On top of that, the comment on the “Sex Worker” issue is also true. I understand that all women have past relationships, but as Vicki said, only a minute group considers past or current sex outside the relationship a turn on. In fact, to most it would have the opposite effect.
It is difficult for any person to find and sustain a long happy relationship, period. I sympathize with Vicki and all other TS women, because theirs is a longer road than most to find happiness.
To Vicki, in the short time I have been on this forum I think I have developed an appreciation of you as both a sex object and a person. You are everything a man could want in a partner, intelligent, witty, charming, and of course sexy as hell. I hope you find what it is you are looking for and that the man you choose really appreciates the catch he has made.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

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I was in an airport a few weeks back, waiting for a plane. I had my laptop out and was doing various things, work, surfing, etc.

So this guy comes by and comments on my laptop. We then start talking about laptops, dual-core processors, Vista the OS, smartphones, VOIP, and a variety of other 'techy' subjects.

We took a break from that for a while, and digressed to travel. We spoke about the countries that we had been to, and that we would like to go to.

We talked non stop for hours. What interested me in particular about this individual is that he was very intelligent, had a great sense of humor, and seemed to be a man of integrity. I found myself feeling giddy as a school girl Embarassed

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All that and you give up your number to him? Sigh....another geek rejected.

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Well, if you are looking for people that you have something in common with, then you should go where they are likely to be. And of course your odds of finding a transwoman in this sea pf people are slim to none. But at least you might meet a person with whom you have common interests.

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I understand what you mean. I've been to Barnes and Noble @ Prudential and Boarders Downtown Boston. It's very difficult for me to read outdated magazines though (they are outdated with info as they are a month behind internet). Even white women seem to be non-existent in this area for dating. Even the women in my IT department don't seem interested in that. Most of their boyfriends are the "tuff guys". I tried to search around RCC. But, let's just say that is not a place to meet women of interest.

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If I was a little younger or you a little older we might be talking about some peer to peer networking. Wink cause you know I ain't down with client - server Laughing

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Why should age matter? It's just a number anyway. There wouldn't be any packets loss once we get the pinging each other. :)

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All that and you give up your number to him? Sigh....another geek rejected.

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:) No darlin', I got 'da digits', I haven't called as I have been very busy.

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I understand what you mean. I've been to Barnes and Noble @ Prudential and Boarders Downtown Boston. It's very difficult for me to read outdated magazines though (they are outdated with info as they are a month behind internet). Even white women seem to be non-existent in this area for dating. Even the women in my IT department don't seem interested in that. Most of their boyfriends are the "tuff guys". I tried to search around RCC. But, let's just say that is not a place to meet women of interest.

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Yes that's a good start. And now comes the part about the
interpersonal skills, the ability to 'schmooze', to commiserate,
this is the part about engaging the woman. What seperates
or differentiates you from the pack. How are you different
from the other men that have hit on her that week. What
about you would make her consider having you in her life.

And when I say 'you', I am not referring to you specifically
but to any man that might read this.

Let me say this: back in the day men had rap, the gift of gab.

Today the young men think 'wassup', or 'yo shawty' will have
panties dropping to the floor. :smh http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/pant22.jpg :smh

Yeah that may work on the 'hood rat', but if you are stepping to a 'classy broad' you better bring your A game.

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Why should age matter? It's just a number anyway. There wouldn't be any packets loss once we get the pinging each other. :)

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Well I will concede this, you did score points with that. Very good
word play, intelligent, witty remark. And yes, I have a weakness
for smart, witty men, but as I have often said there are other
qualities I need in a mate, and these usually only come with life experience.

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Originally Posted by Unisex

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How are you different
from the other men that have hit on her that week. What
about you would make her consider having you in her life.

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For the following;

<---Does NOT smoke.

Does NOT drink

Does NOT own a Television

Is NOT materialistic or obsessed with SUV's that have 24" Rims with 19" inch monitors that no one bothers to watch with Dora Dora the explorer.

Does NOT flaunt money

Does NOT shop @ Hip Zepi USA

Does NOT have any kids nor will I ever

Has never Bottom nor will I ever

Has NEVER been promiscuous and very celibate.

Has come from minimum wage to the field of IT and back again.

Taught myself everything I know without schooling but still in school by way of society.

Been dealing with technology since Tandy's TRS-80 M3.

Very obsessed with urban fiction books by W. Clark and Chunichi.


Am currently reading Not every man's a Thug.

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panties dropping to the floor.

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Does NOT care nor want someones panties.

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You need some friends on MySpace 8)

I hope no one minds me delurking and dredging this topic back up because I was reading it with a lot of personal interest and was thinking about what to say, then the holidays happened. I don't type much online (which is why it took me a while to think about what to say), but here goes...

First of all, for the girls: where do you think you're going to find a successful, happy LTR? A webpage called Hung Angels? Possibly, but is it very likely? The guys here seem like a cross-section of guys in general - some nice, some not-so, but places like this are sex-, not relationship-oriented so it seems like the "all the wrong places" sorta thing.

Ok, so how about the real world. People meet lots of places - supermarkets, clubs, parks, shops, etc. But even if those chance encounters spark the interest to go out, get to know each other, etc, eventually comes The Talk. There are a few guys who, after resuscitation, are able to actually say "Ok, we can work around that", but they are *very* few.

So, where would you expect to meet a potential mate?


Ok, guys: First of all, same question as for the girls. Would you really expect to spark a LTR from a site like this? If not, then where would you look?

2) If you're interested in a relationship with someone here, then you're already narrowing your focus by a physical attribute. People do this all the time by preferring a certain hair colour, breast size, etc, but how would you deal with the fact that the attribute you're focussing on is one many of the women you're interested in are planning on doing away with? Does the "LTR" end with that?

3) I see a number of comments about the guy's possibility of being alienated, or losing friends/family if they find out about their preference. On the other hand, there are some who say that they'd be proud and open about their relationship. For those, how would you react to a relationship with someone who *didn't* want you to be "proud and open" but just as quiet about and protective of her past as she was? Would it be the same? Better? Or is having people know that you're into the "exotic" more important to you?


Anyway, these questions aren't meant to be judgemental, but are ones I have a genuine personal interest in. I'm old and cynical, but I think I'm like some here in that I have hope that there are some happy endings out there someplace. I came across this site by accident a while back, but have hung around since the conversation has often been way above the norm for such things, so would really be interested in your thoughts.

I have been burned so many times not sure I believe in love anymore.

I will be the one wishing and wanting to suck shemale cock, because from being burned I admit I am too chicken to take the chance anymore.

I have been burned so many times not sure I believe in love anymore.

I will be the one wishing and wanting to suck shemale cock, because from being burned I admit I am too chicken to take the chance anymore.