Re: The US Mid-Term Elections 2022
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Originally Posted by broncofan;2063362 Voting for an election denier or an antivaxxer should be about as appealing as voting for a klansman, because there's a decent chance they have many of the same views without the clothing. BTW it doesn't end there. Trump is directing racist insults toward Mcconnell's wife on a near weekly basis. This is a party of nihilists who think promoting hatred is acceptable. Anyhow, I'm sorry to anyone who's disappointed by the Democrats' surprise victory in the Senate.
Here's what Robert Reich had to say about inflation.
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Do you think even Republican voters are now weary of the crude, childish name calling Trump uses? Is there not a point when yesterday's 'shtick' is just that, and voters want something different, like a policy that makes sense of inflation, immigration, homelessness? After all the rage, the anger, the abuse, what have the Republicans delivered? An abortion policy the people don't want (including Republicans). Attacks on LGBTQ+ that produce nothing. Even De Santis may have to tone down his own 'shtick' if he wants votes outside the 'Darkness State' -?
Basically, this: has the tide turned?
I think Republicans are weary of Trump not winning. First him in the 2020 election and now a lot of his candidates in the mid-terms. I wonder if they bothered to ask themselves what they stand to win.
Like what Anton Chigurh told that hapless gas station attendant maybe trump would tell them they stand to win everything. You can fearmonger about illegal immigrants, you can fearmonger about people in the gay community trying to indoctrinate your children, you can block women from getting healthcare, and if you want to say something racist just say it and if anyone complains say "people are offended by everything these days. What's racist about that? If you think that's racist you're the real racist." When a synagogue gets vandalized you can say "whatcha doin Rabbi" to imply the Rabbi did it, and when people call you antisemitic post the story of some mentally ill teen who did something like that years ago for attention. Basically they get the opportunity to be class acts and patriots. But can they win all that?
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broncofan
In other news I heard Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to have a civil war in the Republican party. I can't understand why people don't think these are trustworthy stewards of the public interest.
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Stavros
I think Republicans are weary of Trump not winning. First him in the 2020 election and now a lot of his candidates in the mid-terms. I wonder if they bothered to ask themselves what they stand to win.
The Trumpists are obviously never going to accept any responsibility and change their ways. To them the only problem can be other Republicans not being Trumpy enough.
I'm sceptical that this election will shock Republicans into changing their ways. They didn't do so after losing the House, Senate and Presidency. They didn't do so after January 16. Why would they do so after an election in which they will probably regain the House.
The reason most Republican politicians have engaged in or tolerated nastiness is that their party base want this. I don't think that has changed. Also, the impulse to ignore or deny any unwelcome information, rather than learning from it is now deeply embedded.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ebacle/672108/
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broncofan
Anyhow, the interest rate on 30 year fixed residential mortgages went from 3% to 7%. That will certainly keep lots of people from buying homes. Commercial rates are up well over 2%. You could get a commercial loan of 10 year term 25 year amortization for under 4% a year ago. Now it's over 6%, which is a huge difference. Our entire economy runs on credit.
Borrowers did benefit from unusually low interest rates over the previous 14 years. If the economy can't function without ultra-cheap credit then it really is in trouble. I know there will be collateral damage, but one benefit of higher interest rates is that it will shake out some the spivs who have only made fortunes due to easy credit, low interest rates and inflated asset prices.
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Originally Posted by broncofan;2063362 Voting for an election denier or an antivaxxer should be about as appealing as voting for a klansman, because there's a decent chance they have many of the same views without the clothing. BTW it doesn't end there. Trump is directing racist insults toward Mcconnell's wife on a near weekly basis. This is a party of nihilists who think promoting hatred is acceptable. Anyhow, I'm sorry to anyone who's disappointed by the Democrats' surprise victory in the Senate.
Here's what Robert Reich had to say about inflation.
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Do you think even Republican voters are now weary of the crude, childish name calling Trump uses? Is there not a point when yesterday's 'shtick' is just that, and voters want something different, like a policy that makes sense of inflation, immigration, homelessness? After all the rage, the anger, the abuse, what have the Republicans delivered? An abortion policy the people don't want (including Republicans). Attacks on LGBTQ+ that produce nothing. Even De Santis may have to tone down his own 'shtick' if he wants votes outside the 'Darkness State' -?
Basically, this: has the tide turned?
Yes i do think that some Republican Voters are weary of some of the crude,childish name calling Donald Trump,and other Republican Voters are not because they'll still vote for him despite all of the despicable things he has said and done.
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When it comes to the Democrats, here are some possible candidates. Whoever it is, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if the candidate was a governor. Someone who has experience running an executive branch of government. The candidate should also be in the age range of 45-70.
Governor Gavin Newsome (CA). He is 55 and been the governor of California since 2019. From what I can tell, he is popular with the progressive wing of the party and I can see him going toe to toe with Ron De Santis or Trump because he is a little bit of a prick and I think that is what you need sometimes in politics. The only downside is, I don't see how would do in the middle of parts of the country in a general election.
Governor Gretchen Whitmer (MI). If the Democrats are going to stay in the White House in 2024 and beyond, they're going to need the win the state of Michigan. She has been the governor since 2019 and she won her reelection campaign defeating a MAGA Republican. The plus side is she is a woman. The downside is, she is a white woman and I can already see some issues a rising if she has to face Kamala Harris in the primaries.
Governor Phil Murphy (NJ). He is 65 and although he narrowly won reelection last year, he seems to have rebounded and doing a good job in 68. The only downside he is not well known outside of the tri-state area (New York, NJ, and Connecticut) and the fact that he is from the east coast may cost him votes in the middle of the country. The same goes for the Governor Ned Lamont (CT), who did a great job running his state during the pandemic and the recovery process.
Those are just a few candidates I can think of.
Intriguing - I have heard of Newsom and Whitmer, but not the others. The most obvious question arises from your omission. Pardon the expression, but
- Has Kamala Blown It?
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Biden will run again (unless health issues prevent it). You’re wasting your time speculating about who would replace him. The administration thinks they have a record of accomplishments to run on (Inflation Reduction Act, etc). Biden’s approval among Democrats (41%) is a few points lower than similar timeframe for Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, but is probably within the statistical margin of error. Both of those presidents had much worse results in their mid-term elections than Biden, and both won second terms. It was undoubtably going to be Biden before, and with Trump now running again, it’s certain.
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A lot can happen between now and 2024, whether it is the economy, social or foreign policy, and I do think Blackchubby38 has at least given some thought to contenders. A lot may also depend on how the Republicans handle the House, with a lot of speculation that they will be as disruptive as they can, block as much as they can, and set up Committees to look into a hundred and one spotted dicks on stilts to 'expose' the Democrats. And so on. Or they may spend a lot of time baiting and fighting each other.
Right now, Biden looks like he has those 'successes' to bank, but success in politics is temporary. I cannot say much more because I don't know more than what I see in the media, and surely the most depressing thing about all this is the way in which Trump continues to define, or try to define the contours of political debate, even if most of the time it is all about HIM rather than any of the policies that are going to Make America Glorious Again! But it doesn't look like he is going to see the inside of a prison any time soon, if ever.
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https://twitter.com/HouseGOP/status/...Vihl7mqNLL86yg
Can't imagine why I don't think Republicans would have had a good response to inflation. Maybe because they aren't actually focused on governance at all. If the response to inflation is contractionary policy (fiscal and monetary) do we think Trump would intentionally decrease demand and risk a recession to prevent inflation? Or do we think he'd look for some scapegoat or just ignore it or blame China or try to provoke riots?
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broncofan
https://twitter.com/HouseGOP/status/...Vihl7mqNLL86yg
Can't imagine why I don't think Republicans would have had a good response to inflation. Maybe because they aren't actually focused on governance at all. If the response to inflation is contractionary policy (fiscal and monetary) do we think Trump would intentionally decrease demand and risk a recession to prevent inflation? Or do we think he'd look for some scapegoat or just ignore it or blame China or try to provoke riots?
Trump will need someone to explain to him what Inflation is. As far as I can make out, Trump has been in debt, and lived off other people's money for most of his adult life. In reality I don't think he knows how to read accounts, knows next to nothing about the difference between cash flow and net profit, and relies on other people to do the work and tell him how much money he has. He is so 'smart' he didn't know his Chief Financial Officer was robbing and scamming him for 40 years, and is still paying the man after he pleaded Guilty to tax fraud in a Court of Law! Weisselberg even claims Eric Trump may decide to give him his annual bonus. The sophistry being used in the Court in New York may establish an entirely new language designed to prove that the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top, and of course, Trump, the Saint of Trump Towers, knew nothing, like Manuel in Fawlty Towers, only Manuel was from Barcelona.
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Re: The US Mid-Term Elections 2022
‘I voted Democrat for the first time’: Guardian readers on the US midterm
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ts-republicans
