Death toll for the US 2019/20 Winter period for both coronavirus and flu is less than half of the normal flu deaths od 'normal' years. The figures were released a few days ago.
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Death toll for the US 2019/20 Winter period for both coronavirus and flu is less than half of the normal flu deaths od 'normal' years. The figures were released a few days ago.
Source? The CDC data actually show a fairly normal flu season, and they don't include Covid-19 cases. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Rover177
Covid-19 is just getting started. Don't be an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rover177
If only people would stop being idiots when they were told to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo
Seasonal flu fans, check the latest totals here:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Over 82,000 dead worldwide from coronavirus, and we're nowhere near done with it.
Almost 2,000 people died today in the U.S. from Covid-19. That's an annualized rate of 730,000. We're not even at peak yet either. It takes someone an average of 23 days from the date of infection to die (an average of 18 days from diagnosis; 5 days incubation). When infections peak and begin to fall, deaths continue to spike for at least a couple weeks after. What keeps us from staying at this level and beyond? Either the measures states have instituted or herd immunity. If you don't institute distancing measures it runs through society, kills millions and only stops when a critical mass have gotten it. I don't understand how that's not obvious.
15% of people who get this need to be hospitalized. What do the seasonal flu fans think happens to the death rate if you overload hospital capacity?
You would think the Trump fans would actually take note of what their infallible leader has said - 100,000 to 240,000 deaths predicted even with current measures versus 24,000 to 63,000 flu deaths this year.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/5100446002/
Source was The Australian newspaper; a paper not politically affiliated, articles and opinions from all.
Speaking as someone from New York, if we get to the end of this month and the number of hospitalizations are still dropping, I think we should start lifting some of the restrictions so people can get back to work. Because if we get to April 29th and Governor Cuomo stays he wants to keep the stay at home orders in place for another 2 weeks, you might start seeing a push back against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncofan
While I have no issue with the measures that have been taken, I really don't think enough consideration has been given to the impact they have had on people physically, mentally, and emotionally.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...pital-icu.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by blackchubby38
It's very rare I don't want to write a rebuttal. As an abstract, it's reasonable to consider quality of life and the economy versus the containment of an illness. The reality in this case is different.
Had this been handled even as well as our neighbors to the north did per capita, 10,000 people who are now dead would be alive with about the same amount of sacrifice to our economy. It's a false choice between the economy and the pandemic. If you open up the economy and don't have enough testing and contact tracing, you go right back to the same hell, maybe worse. Anyhow, in the article above you can read a doctor's perspective from the icu. Staying home reduces his risk. Also note it doesn't sound like he's describing anything close to the flu.