Is anyone else frustrated with transsexual attraction?

Hi guys,

I've enjoyed this forum for some time, but this is my first post. I apologize if this topic has already been covered in another thread.

I'm interested to know if anyone else is frustrated by their attraction to transsexuals. I am more attracted to trans women than I am to any other kind of person - male or female. Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts. It's frustrating, and sometimes I wish I were just gay because homosexuality has received such mainstream acceptance. The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis.

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

What's more frustrating is that despite how allegedly open-minded everyone is today about sexuality, the rest of the world - even so-called "allies" - insists on forcing people into one of two boxes - straight or gay. Unfortunately, I don't really think I fit either category. I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

Anyway - I just wanted to see if anyone else here felt the same way. I'm not ashamed of my attraction, it's way more complicated than that. I just want to try and find someone to talk to who can empathize, or who will at least try to understand me.

Thanks,

jer

Wow after reading it, I felt like I wrote it myself lol! Totally get you dude. Wish there were more solutions to the problem

I'll admit I think about that sometimes...

Thought this was going to be one of those "is it gay?" threads lol. Yeah I know what you mean. The hardest part is we get grouped into the gay category because there isn't a lot of tgirls so most hang out at gay bars which makes a lot of people think gay and trans are related, which in my opinion aren't at all.

If you live in a bigger city - London. Manchester, New York, LA for example... then you can meet girls at clubs. You don't have to go down the porn or escort route. In smaller places it is harder. (like in Indiana, clearly)

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Originally Posted by Prospero

If you live in a bigger city - London. Manchester, New York, LA for example... then you can meet girls at clubs. You don't have to go down the porn or escort route. In smaller places it is harder. (like in Indiana, clearly)

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Not looking :P

"The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis."


...I think there is a disconnect here. I was under the impression that you were gay if you liked another man's penis. Am I wrong?

Yup I feel this way. I was in a relationship with a TS but it didn't work out. Now...

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Originally Posted by LilyRox

Thought this was going to be one of those "is it gay?" threads lol. Yeah I know what you mean. The hardest part is we get grouped into the gay category because there isn't a lot of tgirls so most hang out at gay bars which makes a lot of people think gay and trans are related, which in my opinion aren't at all.

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well, cant deny that there are also a lot of gays and sissy boys who are interested in tgirls.

as long as these girls have a dick, they will always be part of the gay scene

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Originally Posted by Tina Francis

"The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis."


...I think there is a disconnect here. I was under the impression that you were gay if you liked another man's penis. Am I wrong?

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Tina - I think that's the average person's gut reaction. However, think of the reverse: what if I LOVED vagina but wasn't attracted to the female body and instead preferred masculine bodies? Buck Angel would be my #1 crush. Should I still be considered straight? I'm turned on by the male sex organ but not by masculinity, whereas most gay men are turned on by both. I don't think gay is the right label for whatever it is that I am.

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Originally Posted by scuderia

well, cant deny that there are also a lot of gays and sissy boys who are interested in tgirls.

as long as these girls have a dick, they will always be part of the gay scene

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Gay men and sissy boys have zero interest in tgirls.

I think the OP has the same nature as most of the posters on here. Most, if not all, would never consider sex with another man, but enjoy it with tgirls. Many, i'm sure, would never bottom for one the girls. The 'am I gay' thing has been beaten to death on this forum and should be put to bed. As for your frustration, Jer, just try to get happy in your own skin; I know I have. Take a look at my avatar; Kay O' Hara...I never really wanted to BE Kay, but I would love to look like her!

It can be a bit frustrating and lonely in the sense that it can be so difficult to meet a trans woman to talk with, date, have a real relationship, etc. Also, not even easy to meet many for platonic friends or to know other guys who are also attracted to or primarily attracted to trans women. I care a lot less about it being socially accepted or not but rather how difficult it can be.

I've been wondering about just picking up Thai and moving there for some time.

i do not agree with the OP's point regarding frustration because I'm attracted to transwomen. I feel no frustration at all. this is not a gay or straight debate and it is irrelevant whether or not strict homosexuality is socially more acceptable than it ever has been in the past. At issue is how you choose to define yourself and what norms you choose to follow. If you said you were frustrated because you can't find a transwoman to date, that would be one thing...that is just part of life because whether you want a woman (genetic or trans...doesn't matter) doesn't mean you can get a woman.

i submit that there are millions of men that would love to have a ggirl as a mate but can't find one and life a life of porn and escorts even though they are attracted to a standard issue woman.

moveover, i contend that if you were truly interested in a transwoman as a mate, and not a sexual object, you could do much more than use escorts and porn to feed your libido...you can go out to where these women are and try to impress one of them.

finally, frustration with what you like is really self-defeating. how can you be frustrated with something you choose to bring pleasure to your life. that is inherently a problem that you need to correct, regardless if that means bucking the norms you feel are placed upon you or just choosing to enjoy yourself regardless of what other's think.

i would just like the OP to step out of his box for a moment and think about the escorts he is with...or the porn stars he lusts after. These women did not like the hand that genetics dealt them so they have chosen a lifestyle of transition. don't you think you could muster a wee bit of that moxxy and own up to your sexual desires? if you were half the person a woman in transition has to be to cope with such stresses, i don't believe you would feel as frustrated as you do.

To answer the OP's question, no.

Wow this whole website is amazing. I think I've found some reading material for a while. Thanks for the responses, everyone.

http://www.reneereyes.com/Meeting%20...als/index.html

RallyCola - I'm not sure what prompted your aggressive response. I have never been with an escort - it just seems like the only real life option available to me because I live in a small town that lacks a transsexual scene. Furthermore, I have no idea if I'm interested in a transsexual as a mate. How could I know if I've never even met a transwoman? And finally, I have a lot at stake - a career, a girlfriend, family and friends. I know that's not unique to my situation - every transwoman who made the transition also had to deal with those challenges.

However, I'm still trying to figure out whether satisfying an intense sexual urge is worth throwing away the wonderful things that I already have. Thus, I don't appreciate your assumption that my hesitation comes from a lack of courage. I hesitate because I don't fully understand a part of myself, and I hoped other posters could offer some insight.

I agree with Jer's posts. Back off, RallyCola. Or if you have something really meaningful to say, post the research and check your grammar. It means a lot.

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Originally Posted by nysprod

Gay men and sissy boys have zero interest in tgirls.

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In my experience, gay men sometimes do, but a random straight dude is more likely to be into me than a random gay dude. Labels are just labels--they're just whatever box someone feels most comfortable stuffing themselves into.

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Originally Posted by Prospero

If you live in a bigger city - London. Manchester, New York, LA for example... then you can meet girls at clubs. You don't have to go down the porn or escort route. In smaller places it is harder. (like in Indiana, clearly)

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Not really a lot of "mainstream" trans people hang out at clubs....

When I say mainstream, I mean the ones with a typical job and life. Accountant, programmer, artist, and so on. The ones who spend most of their day just working a normal job and socializing with every day people (going out to get food at a quiet restaurant instead of hanging out in trans clubs).

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Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts.

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Why not date a trans person?

You know they are around right? All over?

Again, if you are looking for "in the scene" types of trans people....they are going to be more likely to be involved in sex work of some type.

Try looking "out of the scene". Okcupid...facebook... network and get involved in LGBT groups perhaps? ((Or at least get to know other lgbt people, trans people especially tend to know others in the area)).



See, this is part of the big problem....people assume trans people are just in the escort / porn world. When, actually, I know more trans mainstream professionals (game developers, hair stylists, actresses) than i do trans sex workers.

Oh, here is a tip for you. If you approach a mainstream professional in a crude way...they are going to blow you off (well, ignore or block you). Remember, these are people who are used to a bit more of a mainstream life... they have friends, they have jobs and coworkers, they have the respect of those around them, they go out anywhere they want and don't really have issues.... you actually have to impress them a bit (and have basic things like a good career and attraction going).

Some guys seem to think only the willingness to see a trans person should be enough to woo a trans person. Or they think that offering to be seen in public with a trans person is some type of amazing feat that deserves respect. It is kind of sad.

Basically, get over your issues and sort out your sexuality or internal crisis... get on with your life....and THEN try to find a trans person.

Personally I never cared which box I landed in. I enjoy TG over Cis G, that's my preference! I'm very comfortable with my sexuality and can really care less what anyone else, including my family thinks of my beliefs. Sometimes I enjoy being bottom as well as top however I don't consider myself a gay male but if others do, so what, who gives a crap.

So I am definitely not confused, frustrated, or disoriented in any way. Life is way too short to get caught up in worrying about what society thinks. They can think and I will just keep doing.

Of note; I have only been on HA since Dec 2013 and this is the second time this topic surfaced. Hope these responses help with your frustration.

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Originally Posted by jernonymous

Hi guys,

I've enjoyed this forum for some time, but this is my first post. I apologize if this topic has already been covered in another thread.

I'm interested to know if anyone else is frustrated by their attraction to transsexuals. I am more attracted to trans women than I am to any other kind of person - male or female. Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts. It's frustrating, and sometimes I wish I were just gay because homosexuality has received such mainstream acceptance. The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis.

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

What's more frustrating is that despite how allegedly open-minded everyone is today about sexuality, the rest of the world - even so-called "allies" - insists on forcing people into one of two boxes - straight or gay. Unfortunately, I don't really think I fit either category. I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

Anyway - I just wanted to see if anyone else here felt the same way. I'm not ashamed of my attraction, it's way more complicated than that. I just want to try and find someone to talk to who can empathize, or who will at least try to understand me.

Thanks,

jer

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Have you been with a Tgirl or is this only a fantasy?

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Originally Posted by livepersona

Have you been with a Tgirl or is this only a fantasy?

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This reminds me of Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Originally Posted by dderek123

This reminds me of Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Lmao

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Originally Posted by jernonymous

RallyCola - I'm not sure what prompted your aggressive response. I have never been with an escort - it just seems like the only real life option available to me because I live in a small town that lacks a transsexual scene. Furthermore, I have no idea if I'm interested in a transsexual as a mate. How could I know if I've never even met a transwoman? And finally, I have a lot at stake - a career, a girlfriend, family and friends. I know that's not unique to my situation - every transwoman who made the transition also had to deal with those challenges.

However, I'm still trying to figure out whether satisfying an intense sexual urge is worth throwing away the wonderful things that I already have. Thus, I don't appreciate your assumption that my hesitation comes from a lack of courage. I hesitate because I don't fully understand a part of myself, and I hoped other posters could offer some insight.

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Ok, so here's what I would recommend. Do some research and find the nearest big city or take a vacation to the West Coast. If you're really up for it go to Mexico or Brazil. Bring condoms, be safe and try it out.

-Your career will still be there unless you film it
- Family, well that depends on what they know. Same for your friends
- Do it now before you're married and it really becomes an issue
- Once you try it and like it then. Well it's pretty fucking hot
- After you try it you're officially a homo (just kidding)

In all seriousness just take some time and think about it. If you desire it enough you will seek it out. If not, then it was just a fantasy.

Did I mention it is crazy hot?

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Originally Posted by Rabbiteyes

Basically, get over your issues and sort out your sexuality or internal crisis... get on with your life....and THEN try to find a trans person.

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Yup. I can't imagine better advice.

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Originally Posted by dderek123

This reminds me of Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Originally Posted by $$$Bill

Lmao

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I've re worded part of the song.

Translady Rhapsody

Have you been with a Tgirl?
Is this just fantasy?
A confused sex life,
No escape from reality.

Open your eyes,
Look up craigslist and see,
I'm just a poor chaser, I need no sympathy,
Because I'm easy cum, easy blow,
Little bit gay, little bit straight,
Anyway my sexuality goes doesn't really matter to me, to me.

Donna, you were born a man,
Put a wig on top your head,
Pulled out my weiner, now it's red.
Donna, the camshow has just begun,
And now I've bought some tokens to tip you all day.

Donna, ooh,
I want to see to your little guy,
If it’s not hard I won’t tip much at all,
But carry on, carry on as if my sexuality really matters.

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I'll finish the rest some other time when I feel more inspired.

no aggression at all. clearly you are very sensitive.

i stand behind what i said which also was echoed by rabbit eyes...you have things you need to work through simply because you are frustrated with your own situation and are in conflict with your own desires. that is neither a unique or insurmountable situation to manage. get over yourself and get out of your own way dude.

"after you try it you're officially a homo" Good one!:banana:

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I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

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We don’t live in the abstract. We live beneath the rainbow. That’s why we have to look up to see it. If you can’t be with the one you love, honey...love the one you’re with. Gotta love the one you’re with. ... Dah dit, dah dit, dah dit, dadada. Dah dit, dah dit, dah dit, dit.

Love the One You're With With Lyrics - YouTube

Overthinking will drive you nuts! (Pun intended)

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Originally Posted by jernonymous

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

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Are you also attracted to T* who habe undergone SRS and have a Vagina now?

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Originally Posted by LilyRox

Thought this was going to be one of those "is it gay?" threads lol. Yeah I know what you mean. The hardest part is we get grouped into the gay category because there isn't a lot of tgirls so most hang out at gay bars which makes a lot of people think gay and trans are related, which in my opinion aren't at all.

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Well Tia Phoenix and I tested this, we went into R place and Neighbors on Seattle's Cap Hill. In R Place we were the only straight people in there, nobody was checking us out, it was like we were invisible. We also felt like there was no one for us to check out. Neighbors was really hopping and there was some checking out, but we were the square pegs still.

I like Tgirls a lot for what are valid reasons to me, they are not a fantasy but they occupy my desires. I still also love GG's and I am really more comfortable with myself now than before I met my first tgirl.

A side note, the DOD report this week indicated around 15K TG's serving out of 2.6M that is about 0.5% So roughly 1 in 200 girls you meet is TG, how many have you noticed? If they are passable probably not many, now that I know more about TG's I can probably spot more and I am aware that they are out there so I watch. I still have not spotted one in my suburban area, I have noticed them in Seattle. Well, because they are women, they aren't noticed - that is good.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Eldora

A side note, the DOD report this week indicated around 15K TG's serving out of 2.6M that is about 0.5% So roughly 1 in 200 girls you meet is TG, how many have you noticed? If they are passable probably not many, now that I know more about TG's I can probably spot more and I am aware that they are out there so I watch. I still have not spotted one in my suburban area, I have noticed them in Seattle. Well, because they are women, they aren't noticed - that is good.

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A genetic woman will almost never have a 4th finger longer than the 2nd...a small percentage of people have equal length 2nd and 4th fingers.

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Originally Posted by nysprod

A genetic woman will almost never have a 4th finger longer than the 2nd...a small percentage of people have equal length 2nd and 4th fingers.

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i sounds like the latter. but only on one hand. how low percnetage can we go here?:D

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Originally Posted by SammiValentine

i sounds like the latter. but only on one hand. how low percnetage can we go here?:D

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Not sure exactly but it's very low, which means that if you meet someone who presents as female with a 4th finger > 2nd, the probability is very high they were born with male genitalia.

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Originally Posted by jernonymous

Hi guys,

I've enjoyed this forum for some time, but this is my first post. I apologize if this topic has already been covered in another thread.

I'm interested to know if anyone else is frustrated by their attraction to transsexuals. I am more attracted to trans women than I am to any other kind of person - male or female. Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts. It's frustrating, and sometimes I wish I were just gay because homosexuality has received such mainstream acceptance. The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis.

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

What's more frustrating is that despite how allegedly open-minded everyone is today about sexuality, the rest of the world - even so-called "allies" - insists on forcing people into one of two boxes - straight or gay. Unfortunately, I don't really think I fit either category. I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

Anyway - I just wanted to see if anyone else here felt the same way. I'm not ashamed of my attraction, it's way more complicated than that. I just want to try and find someone to talk to who can empathize, or who will at least try to understand me.

Thanks,

jer

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I understand your frustration. When I was younger, I never understood why I had this attraction to a woman with a penis. I remember seeing them when I used to hang out NYC and I would be drawn to them. Me liking their penis used to weird me out at first. In fact it took me two years before I would venture into playing with/sucking them. I used to feel extremely guilty about that and would often seek out sex from GGs right after I would be with a transwoman. As I have gotten older, it does not bother me nearly as much anymore. I know what I like and I am comfortable in my skin. It's been years since I have been with a transsexual, but I am open to it still.

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Originally Posted by Tina Francis

I think the OP has the same nature as most of the posters on here. Most, if not all, would never consider sex with another man, but enjoy it with tgirls. Many, i'm sure, would never bottom for one the girls. The 'am I gay' thing has been beaten to death on this forum and should be put to bed. As for your frustration, Jer, just try to get happy in your own skin; I know I have. Take a look at my avatar; Kay O' Hara...I never really wanted to BE Kay, but I would love to look like her!

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I remember I was gonna give a guy a BJ once and I could not go through with it. There was no attraction at all. But when I going down on a TG, I am very excited.

I noticed that TS admirer/chasers mostly discriminate TS girls a lot. If you like TS girls whats the need to be ashamed of it? Fuck society live your life. Life is short just enjoy it. Guys whos not into TS girls mostly doesnt care and will fuck a TS girl if they found them attractive not worrying about people around them.

I've had some sexual experiences with TS that were just downright mind-blowing. But deep down I honestly don't think I'm Gay. And this is not me being in denial, I've seriously done some deep thinking on many occasions and asked myself if I was Gay. The answer is always no. I love Women. I look at men as my brothers, so there can never be any sexual attraction there. However, I reached a point a few years ago when my lust could no longer be satisfied by Genetic females anymore. That is what thrust me into this world. My love for Genetic Females is still there, but I've placed it aside just so I can pay attention to my lust. However, when I see my peers with their Girlfriends, or Couples on TV, or pictures of Families (Will Smith's family always comes to my mind) I envy them so much and wish I could be like them. I feel I should be like them, but I just can't seem to overcome my addictions to this world. I know I have to someday. I'm young now, but I won't be young forever. I don't want to wake up 5-10 years from now going straight to my laptop and looking for Tranny porn to fap to. Or browsing online for Trannies in the area to fuck. This just seems like a Dead-End route I'm going. *Sighs*

For me this stuff (Porn) is like Drugs. You get some, and you just consistently want something stronger and stronger. However, I'm not trying to offend anyone, because many of these TS Ladies really are very Gorgeous and attractive women (Both Physically and Mentally). Everyone should do what makes them happy. If you find one of these women and you are really attracted to her (Not just because she has a big butt or big cock etc) then you should start a relationship with her. Why not? You only live once, right? You deserve the right to be happy with whomever you want. But on the other hand if you are like me and you know in your heart you are not Gay, you have to look within yourself and ask yourself why you are living a Gay lifestyle. What is your ultimate goal? I am a straight person who is living a Gay lifestyle. I'm a prisoner to my own lust. I hope someday I can figure things out.