Bailey Jay ... again? Huh?
Best Transsexual Release
The Next She-Male Idol 3, Joey Silvera/Evil Angel
Best Transsexual Series
America's Next Top Tranny, Goodfellas/Devil's Film
Have they just released last years?
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Bailey Jay ... again? Huh?
Best Transsexual Release
The Next She-Male Idol 3, Joey Silvera/Evil Angel
Best Transsexual Series
America's Next Top Tranny, Goodfellas/Devil's Film
Have they just released last years?
like i said in the other thread...i guess congrats to BJ but it wasn't deserved this year
It's the same thing every year ... and now AVN will get more publicity from this board with people arguing who should have won. Bailey Jay is a great model and has a great look and an even better brand. Whether she should be winning best performer is the topic.
AVN has no interest in our part of the industry. Joanna Jet "forced" their hand to include a Best Transsexual Model and from that time onwards, they just called in the results.
You fellas need to think it thru. Congrats to Bailey. Nuff said
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Originally Posted by The Unit
her work this year hasn't been amazing. her videos are quite boring and extremely one dimensional. the quality of her solo site leaves alot to be desired. If the award was for hottest transsexual, then I agree, she is an excellent candidate because of her looks but can you really say that she was the best performer this year. What performances or group of performances were so superior to her peers?
Gimme a break. Not to sound like Franklin here, but there's really no reason at all to award this to Bailey - even she doesn't agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unit
What's the story on AVN being "forced" to included the tgirl category?
We all know the AVN's are VERY political and have NEVER ever been fair.
Look there are like 3 or more different "BEST DIRECTOR" awards...I mean how serious can you take these awards.
I cant say anything about Bailey Jay because I have never seen her in any videos that I watch....granted the amount of tranny porn I even look at is miniscule.
Its a shame because a lot of girls work hard and put a lot into what they do but like I SAID...many many MANY times you all need your OWN AWARDS show.
Stop fucking with the mainstream they dont really like trannies at all.
The AVN's dont really fuck with trannies like that and besides the regular GG categories are a fool too....highly political.
Get your own.
I would be will to support it financially if it was well thought out.
Jesse, Brittany st. Jordan and myself were the only true transsexuals representing trannies at this whole event this wknd. Tonight at red carpet we were treated like horrible humans. Like we are nothing to these people. We heard them tell people nominees, contract stars and presenters go on red carpet first. When Jesse asked if she and Brit could go through they said no stay in line. Basically we were in line with fans who scored passes. In line for 3 hrs to walk red carpet. After we got off carpet we were told to leave while others were asked to do interviews. Jesse was shuffled to a empty hall way.
Jesse, Amy or another girl should of won! I feel sad for a girl like Jesse who works hard and has wanted AVN for 5 yrs and to hear Bailey win just broke her heart. So sad! That a girl wins who doesn't even care!!! Fuck AVNs wrong person won! Wrong Alt site won, wrong Alt toy won! Lots of bad mistakes! Xbiz is proving to be better towards our niche!
Totally agree on those points Michelle Austin, Maybe Amy or Domino, at least someone who worked a lot and made an impact, Baily def. deserves best adult transsexual podcast host, but sex performer, there's more deserving folks. It's all a joke regardless, I'll be there next year to see the madness, sorry to hear about the douchebaggery of the attendees. Everyone here knows you girls rock, the mainstream can have some stuck up dicks (but not on the women)
Michelle there were plenty more TS at AVN then just you, Brittany and Jesse (not too mention for one who is as new as you are you have no right designating who is a "true transexual" its just bad form) and as much as I like Jesse she hardly rocked the scene this year. Just because you really want to win doesn't mean you deserve it, sorry that's just reality.
The whole thing is a crock of shit and you girls ought to stop parading around dog and pony shows hoping to get some love and attention from a bunch of transphobic shit heads.
You know what recognition I like from the rest of the industry? That I fucked a bunch of girls they really wish I hadn't. That I fucked them so well that they refer their friends to me and come back over and over in spite of the rumor that I'll give them AIDS and ruin their career. I like that in spite of being nominated for 7 AVN awards this year Adrianna Nicole (winner of last years most outrageous sex scene) flew to Chicago to do a 3 way IR bareback fisting fuckathon with me. I'm glad you girls seemed to shoot some hot porn and have fun in Vegas, but don't let the industry bullshit get you down. Those people only like you so long as you kiss their ass & pretend the bigotry and hatred is groovy.
As for Bailey Jay, who cares if she won? She sells a lot of movies and thats really all people care about in this biz.
Anyways, not trying to pick a fight, but y'all gotta take a step back and remember what is what. I've fucked more mainstream performers than any other TS girls and you notice I have no fucking interest in partying with them. There's a reason. Too fucking heartbreaking to be invited but not invited if you know what I mean.
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Originally Posted by tsmandy
This is why I don't support the AVN award show :)
They treat us second class......and I'm referring to the walking the red carpet...
How tacky of them!
she is great but someone else should have won this year
I love what Mandy said. Why are the girls trying so desperately to be respected by an organization that doesn't want to respect them? I would say, 'fuck them'. Rise above that sort of treatment and act like you don't give a fuck. It's just an awards show for porn. Do your own thing and forget about a little trophy outside your rhelm of peers. It's what your fans think that counts the most.
Bailey didn't deserve this award. What has she done? Nothing.
Jesse works her butt off and provides a good site. Bailey Jay just looks pretty.
One other comment. No Sarina Valentina? Sarina had one of the biggest impacts last year.
The 2013 performer of the year goes to Bailey Jay!
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Originally Posted by tsmandy
Very well said Mandy! :iagree:
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Originally Posted by tsmandy
Do you even listen to what you say?
What you wrote makes no sense to me.
You basically are telling other girls they did NOT deserve to win but Bailey Jay did because she sells a lot of dvd's.
Hmmm.
I thought the award was for Best PERFORMER.....
Bailey Jay is nobodies best performer.
Then you talk about fucking a bunch of genetic girls in the movies and having to deal with a bunch of slurs and hate.
You act like you are proud of that.
Then you say in so many words that the girls you fucked on screen you want nothing to do with.
That makes no sense to me.
You talk about fucking these girls like its some badge of honor but then say you dont want to party with them.
It seems like your the one with self esteem problems.
Dont tell these other girls that worked hard to not be angry...they have every right to be.
Your a lesbian and a dumb one at that it sounds like.
There are other TS girls who fuck genetic girls on camera and hang out with them off camera too.
I guess you need to pick who you fuck more wisely.
What you wrote was so dumb and evil.
I'm sorry you have poor reading comprehension. I'm friends with pretty much every girl I work with, in some cases extremely close. I don't want to party with them in Vegas, at AVN.
And yeah, I don't give a rats ass that those girls didn't win and Bailey did? Why would I? I shot more hardcore scenes than any other TS performer last year, with a star studded cast, had an amazing year, and really don't care that I wasn't nominated. The only way I could have been eligible for nomination would have been if I had nominated myself or asked my publicist to nominate me. next Year I'll be nominated for the 7 scenes I did with Jay Sin this year (that I released this year, by the way, that I casted, directed and released first, but once he releases it I'll get nominated, that's how it works).
I like to party. I have a weakness for porn girls. When the 2 are combined it can be very damaging to my health, my sanity, & my pocket book, not too mention my self esteem when my otherwise awesome friends act less awesome in the spotlight.
Just because you have issues doesn't mean you can try and read me.
If anyone can say they shot more than me last year and to shut the fuck up, then please step forward. Otherwise, my work, my commitment to my talent, and the connections I establish speak for itself. AVN is a boys club and not one I really want to be approved by.
So back off solitary sister
I have never heard of any award show that didnt have some kind of bs behind it...Awards are all about who ur pr is who u know or who u blow or didnt piss off that year lol...If it doesnt make me money I could care less...
Right. :)
I personally don't know why any of the girls want the award so bad - they announce who wins at the very end - some girls weren't able to walk the red carpet - they treat you second class...
I can understand Xbiz - Xbiz treats all nominees/performers equally...you can walk the red carpet...you go on the stage to accept your award..they don't do it at the end either.
Girls supporting AVN support how they treat you in my opinion..
How anyone other than Yasmine Lee wins this every year is beyond me.
Definitely thought Yasmin would take it.
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Originally Posted by tsmandy
~BB~
Some great posts in this thread by you Mandy (not just the Yasmin one).Quote:
Originally Posted by tsmandy
Thanks Steven. People are tripping like I'm saying something controversial. Lol. On my way to New York. gotta go east before I can go west. Or something like that.
I know nothing about how the AVN deal works or the politics behind it...nor do I particularly care. I suppose I understand the purpose behind this sort of thing, but I don't need a bunch of industry insiders telling me who was Best this or best that. Never watched a Grammy or Academy award show in my life. The fact that Mandy didn't win, or wasn't nominated isn't going to stop me from buying her shit. I buy it because it's smokin' hot and because it moves me.
I guess it would be nice to be recognized, but what's the point if the people handing out the recognition appear to hold you in contempt? And in the end...isn't the best and most satisfying recognition... success ( $$$) ?
I was curious if there is any direct correlation between winning the award, and your bottom line ($$)
Ron Jeremy wins best crossover for a small role in a B movie that went straight to video?
Yasmin does a small role in a blockbuster movie and a trans and doesn't win
what crap
I've seen a direct correlation between the winners and search engine traffic on those models names, so yes. Also it's the overall branding of your name and associated media which helps you get better search engine rankings, wikipedia entries, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by onmyknees
You never answered any of the questions I brought up.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsmandy
But I see this is more about YOU not winning the AVN than any thing else.
These other girls have a right to be angry and it sound like your angry too.
It sounds to me like you are mad YOU were not even nominated.
I have been saying the AVN is whack for years...check the archives but people still do care who wins it and who does not.
You calling me names is not going to change any of that.
I am sorry you were not nominated and did not win...it sounds like you were deserving.
I don't get why Yasmin Lee isn't getting the accolades she deserves. I thought she might possibly bow out of adult entertainment after her mainstream breakthrough, but she's still at it and at the top of her game in TS porn. Everyone here knows about the impact she's made in porn and in Hollywood. I'm having a serious WTF moment.
I don't work for anyone but myself or the 3 companies that fund my productions, the DvD market has not been a priority for my biz, so I really wasn't expecting to be nominated, nor did I bother shooting generic crappy scenes that paid less than I pay my talent. I have never bothered taking the steps needed to get a nomination , which I knowingly avoided.
God y'all. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER! I spent my entire year terrified that someone I love, who many of you have gotten to know, was going to die. I didn't always handle myself the way I wish I had, and honestly porn was a necessary distraction from utter heartache & devastation. In other words it just didn't rank in my list of priorities. I've been trying really hard to cope with loss, change & run a business in the process. I'm healing physically & emotionally & I needed to work rather than celebrate.
Every girl wants to be appreciated for how wonderful & amazing she is, and I hope none of the girls really care what AVN thinks.
Fuck y'all. Make better porn, pay your talent better & stop hoping that an occasional gig for babysitters or Joey will suddenly result in an AVN. That's my stance.
all I have to say is fuck the haters Congrats to Bailey Jay :D and congrats to Madison Montag For Getting Nom
You girls should now boycot AVN. A perform who does very very little such as Bailey is getting awards. Now Ron who was in a B movie gets an award that Yasmin should had won hands down. Hell, Yasmin had a lot of media coverage about being in a blockbuster hit. No one covered Ron's little movie.
Bailey Jay didn't do anything to win the award both times. Madison hasn't done anything in more than 8 months to be concerned a nomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by bart87
I'm not sure if there is anything to boycott. No specific transsexual company I know of buys advertising or sponsorship from them. They don't talk to anyone in our industry for feedback on what's going on (unlike other outlets) and the girls who go to the AVN show aren't even paying to go in, they walk the carpet for publicity and that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKLIN
I didn't even submit nominations this year for the first time in 10 yrs.
I think AVN would be quite happy to see less of our industry. They are a dying brand anyway, nobody in the internet biz takes them seriously at all, they cater towards the DVD biz.
The DVD biz is silly in my opinion. Porn DVD sales decrease every year. Most scenes can be legally purchased for download.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
wait...this just in...there is a specific awards show that really rewards girls in the trans erotica industry. the tranny awards should matter most if you value an award.
i am not upset with BJ for winning...she should take whatever is offered to her if it is to her benefit...any of you should take anything offered to you if it is for your benefit. But the people to be upset with here clearly are NOT part of this community so why bother.
its pretty simple...the Miss Universe and Miss America winners are never the hottest women in the world...they are just considered the best of who competed by judges who come in with their own biases and baggage. The Oscars, The Grammys and the AVNs are no different. Or think of it this way...the Maxim list changes every year to reflect whose career is hot or who has a hit song/movie. It really doesn't mean anything because its not a real competition. BJ didn't fuck the same guys as other TS girls in the same scene and we measured her amount of cum and distance traveled, depth of deep throat, degree of wincing when penetrated, etc. Its all subjective AND biased because judges are just flawed people like us.
There shouldn't be a Tranny Awards. There should be one porno awards based on qualities of sex and gender. Sadly the world isn't a perfect place.Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola