http://digg.com/world_news/Oakland_P...Handcuffed_Man
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Video_...ying_0105.html
So, what do you people think of this new controversy? Thoughts, comments?
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http://digg.com/world_news/Oakland_P...Handcuffed_Man
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Video_...ying_0105.html
So, what do you people think of this new controversy? Thoughts, comments?
Not any new ones.
Homegrown terrorism; what did Cris Rock say "I gives a fuck about Al Quaida, I'm scared of Al Cracka" it was a humorous way of saying the ugly truth.
LOL! Well, I guess it's not really funny...Quote:
Originally Posted by worldbro
Funny how its not big headlines yet
"Nobody panics when things go according to plan. Even if the plan is horrifying. If I tell the press that like a gang banger, will get shot in handcuffs by police, nobody panics, because it's all, part of the plan. But when I say that one, little child of Travolta has died, well then everyone loses their minds!"
I wonder what the real truth is? Most of the time when the press gets hold of vids like this, it is presented in a way that has the most shock value. Was the guy really an innocent man that was just sitting and cooperating with the cops. Or was there something else going on that we could not hear of see?????
Then they show John Burris holding his hands over his face looking distressed. The only thing he is probably stressing about is if he can get lots of $$$$$$$ Ca-motherfuckin-chinggggggggg!!!!!
Seriously its OAKLAND wtf do you seriously expect?
Yeah, well I guess Rock didn't know anyone killed by Al Q terrorists. :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by worldbro
And what's with the "cracka" reference? Is this some clever way to help race relations? Talk like that just keeps picking the scabs off the wounds.
....Oh sorry, thought I was using my Tazer Bro.
"Citizen videos" spread online showing BART police officer shooting
unarmed man to death
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/01/06...eos-sprea.html
As a former police officer, it is never acceptable to shoot, taze, oc, or asp anyone who is wearing cuffs. If your have ever been in real cuffs behind the back, you must submit to the officer.
We had an officer at my department taze a teenager who was wearing handcuffs. He fell right on his face and broke his nose. The problem was just for curfew violation. Really stupid I think. I guess that is why I quit being an officer.
Speaking of tazering: http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/06/caught...attack-actors/
Well Cris Rock may of knew of some people killed by Al Quada, but fact is the majority of terrorist attacks on US soil have been done by people of the Caucasian race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beagle
And sorry about the "Cracka" reference, but come on, its Chris Rock; for every "Cracka" theres about 76 "Niggas" in his punchlines. Its hard to be sensitive about others race being referenced to a snack by a comedian when the government is executing unarmed civilians in public.
Just a quick quetion to those in the Bay area:
Are BART cops real cops or rent-a-cops?
Now the video through the window is grainy, but it's a clear view of the action in real time without obstruction. Who said what to whom is totally irrelevant. Why the guy was singled out & pulled to the ground is irrelevant. We'll never hear his version of what happened. The dude was backshot after he was subdued. That's what's relevant. It'll be interesting to hear the official version & the mountain of excuses we all know are coming. Dollars to donuts there'll be a campaign to paint the shooter as a uniformed hero being persecuted for doing his job.
I havent commented on this because the police havent finished their investigation.
They very well could come to the conclusion that this was murder by the police officer or the exact opposite.
But.
They are protesting in Oakland RIGHT NOW and a car was set on fire along with burning trash cans and the like.
The riot police and a helicopter are on scene in dowtown Oakland right now.
I havent seen the video that is going around but I will say this as a BART rider....
This all started because of fighting on the Bart.
The dead man was one of the people fighting.
This is sad because some mother lost her son but I already see this incident being used by the whacked out drugged up bay area liberals to try and get the "police state" or my favorite "the prison industrial complex" abolished.
I FEEL BAD FOR THIS MANS MOTHER.
http://cbs5.com/video/?id=43974@kpix.dayport.com
Here is another video.
In the beginning the young man is still alive but notice the "people" around the area and how they are acting and what they are saying.
I notice some of the young men are using the term "blood" a lot.
They are probably gangbangers.
Crips use the term "cuz" a lot.....
Ghetto Thugs....Were some of them white? White ghetto thugs throwing around the N word like it's some kind of joke. I don't think he should have been shot, but when you live the Gangsta life, violence goes with that lifestyle.
This is America Jack; violence goes with every lifestyleQuote:
Originally Posted by fitz207
the riots will start soon.
Live in oakland for one week you will taze ANYONE. its just fucking ghetto dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by highschoolteacherguy
According to several sources(The county of Alameda being the most important) this individual that was shot Oscar Grant had an EXTENSIVE criminal record.
It doesnt justify him being shot like that though.
The truth will come out one way or another but my initial reservations have already been confirmed.
I may be repeating other sentiments, but it is clear from that video that ther ewas no justifiable reason for that officer to draw or fire his weapon. That kid in the cuffs could have been spewing things like "I'll get my boys to rape and kill your wife you mutherfucker" and yet the cop should still NEVER have drawn his weapon.
I side with Solitary on this one--someone somewhere will take this and use it against BART and the criminal system, turn it into some sort of hate crime, premeditated, or whatever. And the people of the area will probably react because a black kid got killed by a white cop--regardless of the facts, and soon enough this will escalate into something much uglier than it already is.
They have begun, I mean that was expected; you seen Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing. Apparently they didnt get the nonviolence message at the end of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_drade
Well, I don't live in any of those places, & it still doesn't answer the question. The dog catcher is a sworn law enforvement officer. So's the meter maid & the park ranger that takes you on the guided tour of Old Faithful. So let me clarify.Quote:
Originally Posted by braveman
The question is: Are these guys actual trained police officers, or does BART just hire anybody off the street who doesn't have a sheet?
There's a big difference between going through the police academy & just being burley & thinking it's cool to be packing at work. There's a bunch of added responsibility that goes along with enhanced powers, so I'm just wondering if these guys have a clue. I don't see any spin for this. It's just such a blatant lynching, & it was done in the middle of a crowded station full of people with cell phones. Seen a cell without a camera in it lately? This has stupid written all over it.
CosignQuote:
Originally Posted by hippifried
right handed cops keep the tazer on the left hand side or at thigh level on rhs.
lots of commotion and dudes approaching scene.
immediate reaction suggests an accident.
Maybe's:
maybe the dude had a piece on him, so officer pulled his weapon until it could be secured.
thought safety was on. (one time in a duck field my cousin thought his safety was on and, wrongfully, pulled the trigger to test it... bad news bears right there)
alls I know is that this shit is crazy
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01...ing/index.html cop involved in the shooting has resigned.
You know its kinda funny(not really).
You have OVER a hundred(100) murders in Oakland in 2008....most of them black on black,many of them gang related and with MULTIPLE witnesses.
Yet no one comes forward to identify the cowards that are shooting up THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
Police have to BEG for witnesses to these murders yet when a black man is shot by a white police officer you have legions of people coming forward as witnesses.
I ride BART all the time and many non-blacks are frightened of these mini-me punks.
BART is a complete fucking zoo where anything and everything is allowed to run free.
Part of me wishes the transit system would go broke so people would have to find another way to get around since people have no appreciation of BART.
If the BART was privatized you could then have some sort of standard of human conduct enforced.
There is ALL sorts of information out there about Oscar Grant coming out.
I just feel sorry for his mother.....that poor woman.
Under exaggeration 100 thats cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
You need to lay off the right-wing radio, geekmeat. Your brain is beginning to rot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
Yeah and I remember seeing footage of men in white pointed mask with burning crosses hanging people by their neck and lynching them and use their religion to justify their beliefs, yes my friend this is America and we are that savage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reyna
Terrorism is not exclusive to middle east extremist, they come in all colors; African, European, Asian, Russian, and yes even American
KPIX-TV reported Grant had a criminal record and served time at state prison in 2007 and 2008 and was involved in twelve cases between April 2004 and May 2008.[12] Grant, who had also been convicted of drug dealing, had been sentenced to 16 months in state prison in 2007 after he fled from a traffic stop while armed with a loaded pistol.[6] Grant was most recently released from prison September 23, corrections officials said
TAKEN FROM WIKI......
Idiot.....Go live on 23rd-25th ave in East oakland then come back and tell us how it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
Grant also had a criminal record; according to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, Grant served several months in state prison in 2007 and 2008. The Department of Corrections didn't disclose the offenses for which Grant was sentenced.
Records at the main Alameda County Courthouse in Oakland indicate that Grant had 12 separate cases between April 12, 2004, and May 8, 2008. But the records for all of those cases are at the Hayward Hall of Justice and weren't immediately available.
Taken from KPIX website.
You know what's really fucked up? The cop who murdered this dude is claiming that he thought it was his tazer. Now, this is absolute BS! Even more, there was no need to tazer him anyways. But if he gets off in court because of that excuse, that would be like somebody running over a cop and saying that they thought their gas pedal was there brake pedal!!! You would never get off for that. JUSTICE HAS TO BE SERVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nino its oakland they dont care. Trust me dude. its never going to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Nino
Unfortunately, the sad truth is that this behavior is not isolated to just Oakland!
What's really funny is how you steal a quote from the movie THE DARK NIGHT almost word for word. Can't you think for yourself?
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Originally Posted by worldbro
lol Your slow, your supposed to get the reference, its the jokers words edited a little bit thats why its in quotesQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonsub
That was one of the times when the Joker made perfect sense in that movie