Best Transsexual Release Rogue Adventures 27 (Joey Silvera/Evil Angel)
Best Transsexual Series Transsexual Prostitutes (Devils Film)
Transsexual Performer of the Year Buck Angel
:shock:
Printable View
Best Transsexual Release Rogue Adventures 27 (Joey Silvera/Evil Angel)
Best Transsexual Series Transsexual Prostitutes (Devils Film)
Transsexual Performer of the Year Buck Angel
:shock:
Haha - serious or are you fucking!Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCe
I love it!!!!
Buck won?
:roll:
Lol, I'm very serious. Here's the whole list:
2007 AVN AWard - winners
Best Actor Film - Randy Spears, Manhunters, (Wicked Pictures).
Best Actor Video Evan Stone, Sex Pix (Red Light District)
Best Actress Film Jessica Drake, Manhunters (Wicked Pictures)
Best Actress Video Hillary Scott, Corruption (Sex-Z Pictures)
Best All-Girl Release Belladonna: No Warning (Belladonna/Evil Angel)
Best All-Girl Series Erocktavision (Dana Dane Productions / Pulse)
Best All-Girl Sex Scene Film - FUCK (Wicked Pictures), Jessica Drake, Katsumi, Felecia, Clara G.
Best All-Girl Sex Scene Video - Island Fever 4 (Digital Playgound), Teagan Presley, Jesse Jane, Jana Cova and Sophia Santi
Best All-Sex Release TIE: Blacklight Beauties (Pulse Pictures) and Neu Wave Hookers (VCA Pictures)
Best Alternative Release- Real Adventures 84 (DreamGirls)
Best Amateur Release- Bang Bus 9 (Bang Productions)
Best Amateur Series- Homegrown Video (Xplor Media)
Best Anal Sex Scene Film Manhunters, (Wicked Pictures), Jada Fire, Sandra Romain and Brian Surewood.
Best Anal Sex Scene Video Breakin Em In 9 (Vouyer Media), Amy Ried and Vince Vouyer.
Best Anal-Themed Release- Weapons of Ass Destruction 4 (Jules Jordan Video)
Best Anal-Themed Series- Big Wet Asses (Elegant Angel Productions)
Best Animated Release- Pornomation 2 (Cherry Boxxx Pictures)
Best Art Direction Film - FUCK (Wicked Pictures), Rod Hopkins
Best Art Direction - Video- Sacred Sin (Ninn Worx), John Sykes
Best Cinematography- FUCK (Wicked Pictures), Francois Clousot
Best Classic DVD Neon Nights (Command Video/VCX)
Best Continuing Video Series - Dementia (Sin City)
Best Director Film- Brad Armstrong, Manhunters (Wicked Pictures)
Best Director Foreign Release- Pierre Woodman, Sex City (Private U.S.A. Pure Play Media)
Best Director Non-Feature- JacktheZipper, Blacklight Beauty (Pulse Pictures)
Best Director Video Eli Cross, Corruption, (Sex Z Pictures)
Best DVD Extras - The Visitors (Wicked Pictures)
Best DVD Menus - The Visitors (Wicked Pictures)
Best Editing Film - Jennas Provocateur (ClubJenna/Vivid Entertainment Group), Justin Sterling and Johnny 5
Best Editing Video Corruption (Sex Z Pictures), Robin Dyer and Mark Logan
Best Ethnic-Themed Release Asian- Asia Noir 5: A Lust Supreme (Ethnicity/Metro)
Best Ethnic-Themed Release Black- Tales from the Darkside (Darkside Entertainment)
Best Ethnic-Themed Release Latin- Brazilian Island 2 (Nectar Entertainment)
Best Ethnic-Themed Series Asian- Sakura Tales (DVSX)
Best Ethnic-Themed Series Black- Phatty Girls (Justin Slayer/Evil Angel)
Best Ethnic-Themed Series Latin Mami Culo Grande (Justin Slayer/Evil Angel)
Best Film Manhunters (Wicked Pictures)
Best Foreign All-Sex Release Euro Domination (Clark Euro / Evil Angel)
Best Foreign All-Sex Series Obsession (Clark Euro Angel / Evil Angel)
Best Foreign Feature Porn Wars: Episode 1 (Private U.S.A. / Pure Play Media)
Best Gonzo Release Chemistry, Vivid Entertainment Group
Best Gonzo Series College Invasion (Shanes World Studios)
Best Group Sex Scene Film FUCK (Wicked Pictures), Carmen Hart, Katsumi, Kirsten Price, Mia Smiles, Eric Masterson, Chris Cannon, Tommy Gunn, Randy Spears
Best Group Sex Scene Video Fashionistas Safado: The Challenge (Evil Angel Productions), Belladonna, Melissa Lauren, Jenna Haze, Gianna, Sandra Romain, Adrianna Nicole, Flower Tucci, Sasha Grey, Nicole Sheridan, Marie Luv, Caroline Pierce, Lea Baren, Jewell Marceau, Jean Val Jean, Christian XXX, Voodoo, Chris Charming, Erik Everhard, Mr. Pete, Rocco Siffredi
Best Hard-Edged All-Sex Release Slave Dolls 2 (Elegant Angel)
Best High-Definition Production Fashionistas: Safado (Evil Angel)
Best Interactive DVD Virtual Vivid Girl Sunny Leone (Vivid Entertainment Group)
Best Interracial Release Racial Tension (Mike John/Jules Jordan Video)
Best Interracial Series My Hot Wife Is Fucking Blackzilla (Hush Hush Entertainment/Digital Sin)
Best Mainstream Adult Release Pornography: The Secret History of Civilization (KOCH Releasing)
Best Male Newcomer Tommy Pistol
Best Music Sacred Sin (Ninn Worx), Eddie Van Halen and Loren Alexander
Best New Starlet - Naomi
Best New Video Production Company Jules Jordan Video
Best Non-Sex Performance Bryn Pryor, Corruption, (Sex Z Pictures)
Best Online Marketing Campaign Company Digital Playground, DigitalPlayground.com
Best Online Marketing Campaign Individual Project Sacred Sin (Ninn Worx)
Best Oral Sex Scene Film FUCK (Wicked Pictures), Ice LaFox, Eric Masterson, Tommu Gunn, Marcos London and Mario Rossi.
Best Oral Sex Scene Video Jenna Haze, Jenna Haze Dark Side (Jules Jordan Video), Jenna Haze, Scott Lyons, Arnold Schwartzenpecker, Johnny Fender, Trent Sulari and Donny Schlong
Best Oral-Themed Release Feeding Frenzy 8 (Jules Jordan Video)
Best Oral-Themed Series Hand To Mouth (Third Degree Films)
Best Overall Marketing Campaign Company Image - ClubJenna
Best Overall Marketing Campaign Individual Project Sacred Sin (NinnWorx)
Best Packaging Tailgunners, (Adam & Eve)
Best POV Release Pole Position: Lex POV 5 (Mercernary Pictures)
Best POV Series Jacks POV (Digital Playground)
Best POV Sex Scene Jacks POV 2 (Digital Playground), Naomi, Tommy Gunn
Best Pro-Am Release Breakin Em In 9 (Vouyer Media)
Best Pro-Am Series Beaver Hunt (Hustler Video)
Best Renting Title of the Year - Pirates (Digital Playground)
Best Retail Website Rentals - WantedList.com
Best Retail Website Sales AdultDVDEmpire.com
Best Screenplay Film Manhunters (Wicked Pictures), Brad Armstrong
Best Screenplay Video - Corruption (Sex Z Pictures), Alvin Edwards & Eli Cross
Best Selling Title of the Year - Pirates (Digital Playground/Adam & Eve)
Best Sex Comedy Joannas Angels 2: Alt Throttle (Burning Angel Entertainment/VCA Pictures)
Best Sex Scene Coupling Film Emperor, (Vivid Entertainment Group), Janine and Manuel Ferrara
Best Sex Scene Coupling Video Slave Dolls (Elegant Angel), Tiffany Mynx and Manual Ferrara
Best Sex Scene in a Foreign-Shot Production Outnumbered 4 (Erik Everhard/Evil Angel), Isabel Ice, Sandra Romain, Dora Venter, Cathy, Karina, Nicol, Puma Black, Erik Everhard, Steve Holmes, Robert Rosenberg
Best Solo Release I Love Big Toys 2 (Digital Sin)
Best Solo Sex Scene Alana Evans, Corruption (Sex Z Pictures)
Best Special Effects Porn Wars (Private U.S.A./Pure Play Media), Kovi
Best Specialty Release BDSM My New Girlfriend (PRV Productions/Bon Vue)
Best Specialty Release Big Bust Breast Worship (Jules Jordan Video)
Best Specialty Release Fem-Dom Strap-On Strap Attack 4 (Joey Silvera/Evil Angel)
Best Specialty Release Foot Fetish Barefoot Confidential 40 (Kick Ass Pictures)
Best Specialty Release MILF Cheating Housewives 3 (Smash Pictures)
Best Specialty Release Other Genre Horny Hairy Girls 22 (Rodnievision/Exquisite Multimedia)
Best Specialty Release Spanking Baltimore Brat (Kelly Payne Productions)
Best Specialty Release Squirting Flowers Squirt Shower 3 (Elegant Angel Productions)
Best Specialty Series Big Bust Boob Bangers (Darkko Productions/Evil Angel)
Best Specialty Series MILF MILF Seeker (Pink Visual Productions)
Best Specialty Series Other Genre Adorable Girls (Swank Digital/Pure Play Video)
Best Specialty Series Squirting Flowers Squirt Shower (Elegant Angel Productions)
Best Supporting Actor Film Kurt Lockwood, To Die For, Vivid Entertainment Group
Best Supporting Actor Video Manuel Ferrara, She Bangs (Red Light District)
Best Supporting Actress Film Kirsten Price, Manhunters (Wicked Pictures)
Best Supporting Actress Video Katsumi, Fashionistas Safado: The Challenge (Evil Angel Productions)
Best Tease Performance Amy Ried, My Plaything: Amy Ried, (Digital Sin)
Best Three-Way Sex Scene Fuck Slaves (Jake Malone/Evil Angel), Sandra Romain, Sasha Grey, Manuel Ferrara
Best Transsexual Release Rogue Adventures 27 (Joey Silvera/Evil Angel)
Best Transsexual Series Transsexual Prostitutes (Devils Film)
Best Video Feature Corruption (Sex Z Pictures)
Best Videography Sacred Sin (Ninn Worx), Barry Wood
Best Vignette Release Jenna Haze Dark Side (Jules Jordan Video)
Best Vignette Series Jacks Playground (Digital Playground)
Contract Star of the Year Stormy Daniels (Wicked Pictures)
Crossover Star of the Year Jenna Jameson
Director of the Year (Body of Work) Jim Powers
Female Foreign Performer of the Year - Katsumi
Female Performer of the Year Hillary Scott
Hall of Fame Founders Branch Charlie Brickman, Cinderella Distribution; Phil Harvey, Adam & Eve; Arthur Morowitz & Howard Farber (Video-X-Pix), Sidney Niekirk, Cal Vista
Hall of Fame Rebecca Bardoux, Dave Cummings, Taylor Hayes, Rick Masters, John Seeman, Domonique Simone, Selena Steele, Sydnee Steele, Nici Sterling, Tabitha Stevens, Kyle Stone, Vince Vouyer
Male Foreign Performer of the Year Jean Val Jean
Male Performer of the Year Tommy Gunn
Most Outrageous Sex Scene Girlvert 11 (JM Productions), Ashley Blue, Amber Wild & Steve French in Meat Is Murder
Transsexual Performer of the Year Buck Angel
Underrated Starlet of the Year (Unrecognized Excellence) Mika Tan
I think the only award I agree with is the Mika Tan award.
This list is just.....I don't know.
Sorry, I'm not at all impressed with the selection for Transsexual Performer of the Year. Not at all !!!!!! :thumbsdown
boooooooooooooooooo
I think it's a great and brave choice.
The award is "Transsexual Performer" not "Transsexual MtF Perfomer". Buck has appeared in many films with some of our favourite TS stars - and I'm sure those models think Buck is deserving of the award.
I'll give myself an ice-cream for promoting Buck in 2003 and being the first mainstream TS site to feature him and his website.
Congratulations Buck - I hope your getting a big kick out of this - it's brought a smile to my Sunday.
seanchai
.
http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=281743
apparently it's no joke ( as far as the facts)
i'm still in shock !
With all due respect to da Buck, i have to
disagree with TS Performer award and consider this a
total publicity joke by AVN.
C'mon .. what about the fan-favorite candidates
who pour their hearts out making SEVERAL quality
films throughout the year as compare to one notable, lone
high profile film.
Makes me wonder if they truly give a damn about TS award
or take it seriously.
Now i know " ANYONE' from anywhere and any condition can
win the award, no matter how many other long awaited candidates
deserve it more.
the AVN awards just continue to be so confusing and fucked up.
Do you think some on the inside took a peek at HA forum
naysayers and said " we'll fix their asses " ?
This sucks ass, after this joke of a stunt, i'll never get hyped up over
the AVN awards again.
Congrats Buck!
I find it a bit unfair to have only 3 TS awards of of 10 pages of mainstream awards but...
Was very happy to see that Buck won (Though I agree that the short list of awards can skew the results). As with any award presentation, the AVNs will grow and evolve over time. Remember, wasn't all that long ago that there were =NO= T categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvince
.
Quote:
Best All-Girl Series Erocktavision (Dana Dane Productions / Pulse)
Best Ethnic-Themed Release Black- Tales from the Darkside (Darkside Entertainment)
Best Interracial Series My Hot Wife Is Fucking Blackzilla (Hush Hush Entertainment/Digital Sin)
Best Retail Website Rentals - WantedList.com
Best Specialty Release Other Genre Horny Hairy Girls 22 (Rodnievision/Exquisite Multimedia)
* overlooked is the best all-girl series today, IMO is easily
Viv Thomas' LEZLOVE VIDEO series:
( see Office Girls, Butterfly, Teenage Seduction, Pink Velvet,
Confessions of a Makeup Artist, Searching for Silvera, etc.)
* Tailz from the Darkside was a very fun one and one of my
favorites this past year.
* Glad to see Rodney Moore win one at last after countless
nasty-good video releases, his Hairy Girls series is one
of my favorites , ..now i wanna see my boy
Robert Hill start getting some recognition after so many
good shemales films
* I luuuvv the Blackzilla series !
* just started to rent online myself and interesting to
find my favorite WantedList.com the big winner ,
hell i didn't know online renting could be considered
AVN award winning material.
.
I wrote a blog article on the AVN winner at http://www.grooby.com if anyone is interested.
seanchai
Sorry...seanchai!!!!! I could give a shit less, what Buck has or has not been in. I still say the selection was a bad one. You don't have to agree, that doesn't matter, either! :crap :thumbsdown :violinQuote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
What Bearded-1 observes is so true. I mean, today in most bookstores there are actually more than the two or three tattered copies of TS videos of only a few years ago. Progress has been definitely made in the TS category! Hoorah!
:)
Congrats to my buddy Buck :)
No need to cry about it - I didn't see your name on the nominations?Quote:
Originally Posted by CORVETTEDUDE
seanchai
OK fine. we'll see how many tranny websites foldQuote:
Originally Posted by Realgirls4me
and go under when they completely convert
to man-pie features.
then we'll compare the " progress " of it all.
Yeeepeee!
My take on it is this... This is no different than lumping male and female performers together into one Performer of the Year award. Furthermore, it opens up more ridiculous possibilities. Just because the award didn't say "M2F Transsexual Performer of the Year" doesn't mean that wasn't implied. Just like their Male Performer of the Year doesn't say Male Human Performer of the Year... It leaves an openning for a great Male Horse Performer or Male Dog Performer or some other riduculousness. What if female performers started injecting their Vivid and Wicked lesbian scenes into GayVN. By definition, it is gay sex. The award shouldn't have to say Best Gay Male on Male Sex Act Between Two Legitimately Gay Males, it should be implied.
Obviously, M2F and F2M are two totally different performance types. How can you compare the best female performer to the best male performer when one is doing double and triple penetrations and the other has to keep a hard cock for hours and hours through numerous cuts, positions, etc? I don't think you can compare the two. I know that Buck's stuff sells pretty well and he clearly has a fan base, but it really makes no sense. It does feel to me a bit like AVN is mocking the genre.
AVN has recently done things such as remove TS lines from the Specialty Rentals Charts. They have also added a whole bunch of new awards for all the other specialty areas since TS stuff has really owned this category for years. Best Hairy Twat DVD, Best Fat Girl DVD, etc... It's becoming even more silly. Just give everyone their own award to shut them up.
Finally, Danielle had wanted to work with Buck before he worked with any other TS and I advised her against it based upon what I regard as the "freak show" factor. I remember Foxxy Angel fucking a midget in some pictures. People aren't getting into your stuff because it's hot necessarily, but because it's strange. It's like a bad car wreck and everyone wants to rubber neck. No I am not insulting Buck with that statement. It has nothing to do with Buck. It just has to do with the pairing and it's bizarre factor. Buck isn't a freak and neither are we (MtF TS), so why should we be creating product that is marketed as freak show or odd. Because yes, when people see beautiful, voluptuous Allanah Starr take out her shecock and stick it into a man's pussy, it's wierd.
I do congratulate Buck, and perhaps he is a great performer. In fact, it is completely and totally impossible to dislike the guy since he is so friendly and articulate. However, I don't really agree with him being part of the same category. Being a peer for the same award with someone named Buck does take some of the glamour away.
I ran a poll on my Yahoo Group that got almost 450 responses and Danielle was a 2-1 favorite over the next closest vote getter. This should have been her year in my opinion. I feel it is unfortunate that the folks at AVN chose this year to make a statement. Whatever that might be.
I also am so completely happy that I was not nominated this year so I can speak my mind on the topic without people telling me I am jealous or hateful. I am neither. I simply have an opinion. I think it's retarded to compete with men for the same award.
Diesel - Man with a Pussy - for Transsexual Performer of the Year 2008
http://shop.transsexual.sex-supersto...d/2018247C.jpg
Vicki
Huh? What, pray tell, are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by tsluva
All I was trying to say is that the TS world is not only being recognized at the AVN Awards, whether one agrees with their nominations or not, but also on the shelves of bookstores and DVD vendors inside and outside of cyberspace. Can anyone deny that?
So what are you talking about again? Clarify.
.
Excellent post, Vicki - well done.
AVN has always mocked our industry. AVNonline done an article on the TS porn genre recently and despite the writer stating how big it was, they refused to run it as a cover feature because "trannys don't sell" ?
I'll take back my statement on how brave it was for AVN to give the award to Buck and re-state, that it was "grandstanding".
Fact, remains that until they opened an eligable category for him - where would he go - he is a transsexual and I stand by the fact that he is a transsexual and won in the "Best Transexual" category. Implying that it's MtoF TS, isn't good enough and this has proved it.
Maybe AVN reads this board and got scared about the speaches other nominees might state? Oh, I forgot, the TS performer award doesn't even get to collect the award.
Still well done Buck!
seanchai
I remember reading this once before. There's no "I'd like to thank the Academy..." dribble or "Thank you to the 'little people'..." (The latter only lacking insult content if spoken by Judy Garland, Chevy Chase, or Peter Jackson)?Quote:
Maybe AVN reads this board and got scared about the speaches other nominees might state? Oh, I forgot, the TS performer award doesn't even get to collect the award.
How do they get the pretty, glass monolith? Is it beamed down by intelligent forces on Venus? Or is it delivered by some guy that rings the doorbell and announces "Candygram!"? :wink:
Seriously, that's a very long list of awards, are Ts the only major category that doesn't step to the podium?
Congrats to Buck, he is a transsexual and thereby qualifies for the award. Does he deserve it? I have no idea; I have not seen his filmwork, so I cannot gauge the quality of his performance. For that matter, I've only seen a handful of TS porn altogether, so if I voted, it would be based solely on the work I do know by those nominated, which in turn would not be fair (in part because most of that work is pre-2006).
I think Vicki makes several excellent points. It's a shame that there is no M2F TS performer of the year winner as, Buck and Diesel (don't know him at all) aside, the TS porn field is M2F TS and should be represented by a top M2F performer of the year. I don't know the sales figures, but I'll wager that 99% of the TS porn market is M2F, and that market should be represented.
I don't see how Buck Angel winning is in any way "mocking" the TS scene. AVN represents mainstream adult entertainment, most of the people who read the magazine or visit the website probably don't know what "transexual" even means.
And like it or not, Buck is a transexual man.
That's reality. People should be a little less sensative and realize it's just an award show.
His winning was somewhat shocking, even provacative in a way, which is sometimes a good thing. Maybe some people will take a closer look at the whole transexual situation in general and try to better understand it.
i hear ya,Quote:
Originally Posted by Realgirls4me
i just don't agree that Buck getting TS Performer of Year award
should be considered "progress" .
Though probably less regarded in their award recognition,
i thought up to this point the standard and measuring stick
for TS performers was already set with what we
thought the image of TS performer was before the latest
AVN award winner.
and mind you that likely performers like Daniella Fox,
Joanna Jet, Wendy and Yasmin Lee have been overlooked
and far deserving of the award.
Call it a specialty or some other kind of category that Buck
can be fit under and more suited for but i just don't think he
should have been added to mix of tgirls nominees that
have been previously entered into the AVN award ceremony.
what is to stop crossdresser and drag queens from
being seriously added to the mix in the near future?
Now this just only creates "confusion" rather than
add "progress" in my opinion.
To me, mockery and confusion is not progress.
.
Seanchai!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Thank you so much.Yes you were the very first to take a chance with me and supported what I was doing even though all the guys on your site were pretty upset by me. I will always remember that!! You are a pioneer just like I am so you understand it is very important work.
As for all you guys who are upset about my win you have to understand that I am a pioneer. This is a hugh step for ALL transsexuals in the business. I am sure many of you have never seen my work nor care too. You are turned on by women I am a man so that makes sense. You should open your minds. Once these girls were where I am and now it is totally mainstream. Now it is "ok" for you to be into these girls and once it was not!
So I have won this award for a reason. It was not because they wanted to pull some stunt. That is insulting to me and my work. Would you say the same if a girl won? I hate sore losers. If you read what the award is about you might change your mind.
Many of the girls have sent me emails with congrats! So they seem to be happy. Wendy Williams being the first to call me.
I hope you can see a bit more now what this is all about and maybe be happy for an underdog!
Thanks!
Buck Angel
Vicki,Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
Much of what you say is very true. But somehow I always feel like you have tons of hate for what I am doing. If you read my interviews you will see that I make sure I am never put in the Freak section. This is why I left Robert Hill and you see a guy like Diesel trying to take my place there. They have made him into the freaky transsexual man with tits and a pussy!
He is the kind of transsexual man you should be pissed at. He will fuck up everything I have done to make TS man porn a hot genre like yours.
I do believe I should not have to run against the women it makes no fucking sense but what do I do just sit around and do nothing? I had to compete in the awards because I deserve to just like you. I work my ass off just like you. I have many fans just like you.
You will see one day what I have done for not only me but you and all the girls. I think we should talk to AVN about seperating us. It is only fair. But for now I won and I would appreciate you supporting me like I support you!
XXX
Buck Angel
Heya Buck!
I was waiting/expecting for you to chime in. :D Congrats on the win! :claps
I've watched your scene with Allanah and think you both had too much fun with it. :lol:
Keep up the good work. :peanutbutter
I don't have hate at all for what you are doing. You make porn. I make porn. Everything you said above is correct. I knew about you way back when Saigon's website had taken off and I was looking for a webmaster. Even then I was impressed with how well you have transitioned. I heard really good things from Saigon about you and your work ethic for her site. As I said, it is impossible to dislike you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Angel
I support you from the standpoint that you won the award and bitching isn't going to change anything. I don't support it from the context of comparing apples and carrots. I wish I could explain it better. You coming in was like inserting a Hummer into a sportscar award event. The Hummer obviously is superior in a bunch of different ways that no sportscar can compete with and vice-versa. If that was the only SUV to get inserted, because of it's uniqueness, it might have an unfair advantage. The sportscar manufacturers might cry out in outrage because it just doesn't make sense for them to lose a competition because their car can't go off road and seat a family of 8.
You are a man without a true genre Buck. Maybe you will create one and more and more men like you will begin adult careers so there is actually a competition. While shemale porn bridges our kink into straight pornography, I believe much of your porn bridges the kink into gay pornography. A man fucking you has all the smoke and mirrors appearance of gay sex just like if I fuck a GG, it has the smoke and mirrors appearance of lesbian sex. Gay sex is a gayvn thing, lesbian is an AVN thing.
But, for now, you will be permanently inserted into a category created originally for transsexual women. You will be there next year, and the year after, and the year after... We're permanently going to be competing against a guy named Buck or maybe others named Diesel, Bob, or Frank when we aspire to be compared against women. I feel it's as insulting as them throwing other male performers such as Christian or Kurt Lockwood into our category. It's permanently tainted the award and made it a "just throw all those tranny freaks together" type of thing. As a transsexual woman, I would be mortified to be put into a contest where I was rated against all guys, transsexual or otherwise.
V
Oh wow...is this for real?
Reminds me of when Jethro Tull won best metal band instead of Metalica. The people handing out the awards just don't get it.
although there is a transsexual link there...Quote:
Originally Posted by swimnn
seanchai
I think most of the people on here that have spoken out against the award fall into the same category. I can't get upset about him winning because i don't know shit about his work. I have seen maybe half a scene of his just to see what it would be like but it did nothing for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecstatic
I think I, and most of everyone here, have a bias.
Even with that being the case, I can't expect a mainstream group to give out an award that really represents the best TS award. In most cases it will only go to the biggest name or the person who had the most exposure that year.
I doubt that much critical consideration really comes into play.
First of all your anger is misplaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
Buck IS A TRANSEXUAL!
He is just as vital,valuable and hardworking as you Vicki.
Think about the people who vote on this award....how many of them value transexuals as human beings?
You see?
Thats your problem.
You put weight on an award that is an afterthought to those who created it.
Most people in the adult video industry and society as a whole regard ALL trannys as FREAKS!
THAT MEANS YOU MISS!!!!
Buck Angel is a proud transMAN and a trailblazer and congrats to him~!
YOUR angry because Danielle didnt win and I understand that BUT.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
I dont think she would have won anyways........Not that she didnt deserve too.
I have always said she should have won last year.
Please lay of Buck........
Its about time transmen got their just propers...
...And, how many of you have been e-mailing/contacting "AVN" with your concerns? Lol... This reminds me of the Pageant Message Boards...People get on them and go yapping away about the person who won, instead of trying to make SOME SORT of diffence, if only a tiny one. It won't hurt to try and see if something, if anything, can be changed/compromised. If not, this will be the first year, but not the last. Buck didn't vote for himself, so...
Nautica=^.^=
P.S.
Solitary Brother,
Are you F2M?
I made intelligent articulate points. Yes I am opinionated.
Fine, even though they are not, all transsexuals are the same. All men and women are the same too. They should do away with male and female Olympic sports and let everyone compete together since we are all the same. They should let female sheep in the Ms Universe pagent because to some people, they are beautiful too. I am going to buy a Yorkie soon, a female, I am going to dress her as a boy dog, teach her some tricks, and see if that counts at AVN toward Transsexual PoY since human isn't in the award title and neither is sexual performer. We can't assume anything obviously.
I would rather write a column on AVN about it. I'll have to see if they will let me.
No just supportive of the cause.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nautica
And by the way all of you say that Vanity is old and ugly(I know I know) go look at her MYSPACE site and her video interview posted there.
She looks better than ANY transexual and most genetic women!
Go see her with your own eyes......her beauty her femininity her realness.
Ive never seen anyone like her EVER!
Your being VERY wrongheaded about this Vicki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
Go educate yourself about transmen.....they struggle too...they are your brothers.
Your analogies are very hurtful and wrong.
I know your hurt about Danielle not winning and yes she is deserving but please dont hurt others with your words.
Please.........
I am not trying to be hurtful. I am making analogies. Sure, extreme analogies, but analogies never-the-less. I am not comparing transmen to farm animals or sport utility vehicles. I am just explaining that it is not the same thing and should not be compared together. It isn't the same genre - just like hairy armpit muff girls aren't the same as hairy bear men.
Oh no...say it isn't so! People think Vanity is old and ugly? Why? I have never met her in person, but she looks beautiful from her photos. Oh, and I saw her on a Maury show. They didn't pic her as TS! Gorgeous gal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother