Re: Roman / Greek Mythology
Just mythology.
In reality gay attitude did exist but was severely punished.
In Sparta...omg I could even imagine what would even happen to them.
Re: Roman / Greek Mythology
More relevant may be the discussion in Plato's dialogue, The Symposium-
"Aristophanes...presents a myth, with refer-ence to the gods, to the genesis of present humankind and even to Homer (190b9),but leaving no doubt about its being some kind of parody. In the beginning, therewere three sexes..., all three of them being round like the celestialbodies they were born of. The original male (arren) sex was born of the sun, thefemale (thèly; 189e1) of the earth and the third, combining qualities of both the othersand called androgynous (androgynos), was born of the moon. Androgyny is clearlyunderstood as combining both male and female features, not as lacking them.Aristophanes also states that these bisexual7beings do not exist any more, and thatthe word androgynosonly serves as invective."
https://www.unil.ch/files/live/sites..._Symposium.pdf
Consider also, that what we might think of as Homosexality, in Ancient Greece was more likely to be Pedrasty, though I am not sure if Plato refers to it as that or if the age of sexual partners was relevant, where the concept of a Catamite might be introduced in some cultures, perhaps mostly in Asia? Cf-
"strictly speaking, in The Symposium, the readers are given an account of quite another kind of relationship. Indeed, pederasty for the Greeks is in fact a more casual relationship which has a limited duration and concerns two men, one of which is older than the other: a mature man who is considered as the dominant partner, the lover or the erastês, and the other who is a young man who has a passive role, the beloved or the erômenos."
https://www.wedgiemagazine.com/sexua...lato-symposium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Hermaphroditus
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Stavros
More relevant may be the discussion in Plato's dialogue,
The Symposium-
"
Aristophanes...presents a myth, with refer-ence to the gods, to the genesis of present humankind and even to Homer (190b9),but leaving no doubt about its being some kind of parody. In the beginning, therewere three sexes..., all three of them being round like the celestialbodies they were born of. The original male (arren) sex was born of the sun, thefemale (thèly; 189e1) of the earth and the third, combining qualities of both the othersand called androgynous (androgynos), was born of the moon. Androgyny is clearlyunderstood as combining both male and female features, not as lacking them.Aristophanes also states that these bisexual7beings do not exist any more, and thatthe word androgynosonly serves as invective."
https://www.unil.ch/files/live/sites..._Symposium.pdf
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Re: Roman / Greek Mythology
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Fitzcarraldo
What does this tedious noise have to do with Ancient Greek and Roman myths?
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Stavros
What does this tedious noise have to do with Ancient Greek and Roman myths?
Everything. It comes from what you referenced.
Re: Roman / Greek Mythology
Some thoughts from an old Hellenic Pagan...
DIONYSOS
In order to protect young Dionysos from Hera’s wrath, Zeus had Hermes whisk young Dionysos off to the nymphs in the hidden grove of Nysa. There Dionysos lived his youth disguised as a girl, safe for sometime from Hera’s anger.
Eventually, though, Hera found Dionysos. She drove him mad, and set him wandering about the world...
KYBELE
Eventually Dionysos was found by Kybele (AKA Cybele) an island goddess also known as “The Great Mother” and similarly, “Magna Mater” to Romans centuries later. Kybele cured his madness, and taught him her mysteries, destined to be adopted into and help shape what would eventually become the mystery rites of Dionysos himself.
Kybele, in later antiquity (after approximately 3rd century BCE), rose to become a very prominent cult in the ancient world, particularly in Imperial Rome. Her priesthood consisted of the “Galli”, men who ritualistically castrated themselves in devotion to Kybele and who thenceforth lived their lives as a woman.
You can read an account of the Galli, ancient transgendered priestesses, talking among themselves in the novel “The Golden Ass”, by Apuleius from the mid-2nd century CE. Their apppearance and conversation occurs about 80% of the way into the novel.