sugar tax?

[holzz]

what do you make of the UK sugar tax coming?

i don't drink much coke so it won't affect me......the only thing i'm sweet for is TS body/cock, not Coke or Pepsi..lol. :salad

[Jericho]

They can't squeeze anymore out of the smokers, they're quitting in droves.
So it's time to tax the kids, chubbies and stoners! :shrug

[Laphroaig]

Well Def Leppard are fucked and my fantasies about Taylor Swift will never come true now...:-(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5WQjPwumw

Otherwise, I rarely have fizzy drinks so it won't really affect me.

I doubt it will affect the "fatties" much either. They all go to McDonalds, order a "double cheesburger, large fries and a DIET coke" anyway...:banghead

[holzz]

They can't squeeze anymore out of the smokers, they're quitting in droves.
So it's time to tax the kids, chubbies and stoners! :shrug
nothing wrong with taxes against smoking......

[Jericho]

nothing wrong with taxes against smoking......

Oh really, do elaborate!

[buttslinger]

This could actually become a future big issue in light of skyrocketing health costs. It goes right to the Heart of Govt putting it's nose in your business, and the responsibilities of being a CITIZEN. Am I my brother's keeper?

[trish]

Am I my brother's keeper? Seems to me the Lord's implied answer to Cain was, "Yes, you are." For non-believers like me, the answer is: That's contract we make when we choose not to live as hermits and achorites. What this got to do with sugar requires some quantitative justification which will be dependent on geographical, economic, and public health demographics.

If a tax exists to raise money to pay for public services (road repair, health care etc.) people seem more willing to accept it, then if the perception of the tax's purpose is to dissuade people from using the taxed item. The latter is just bad marketing and legislatures should probably stay away from these sorts of rationalizations. Every tax exists to create revenue and all revenue should be directed toward providing a service of one sort or another. One would hope the revenue from a sugar tax goes toward reducing the economic strain on the health care system caused by diabetes and other health issues that arise from the over-consumption of sugar (if such a strain is shown to exist).

[buttslinger]

In the USA all sales tax is done by the State or County, and where I live the tax on groceries is cheaper than the tax on light bulbs.
Politically, Republicans like taxes on gasoline, and sugar, because the worker caste ponies up the dough.
Republicans don't like income tax or capital gains tax. Because that's WAY to much money to give away without a fight.
And there is the real issue that the poor people are the ones buying this shit they sell at the supermarket.


I think there's an Aldous Huxley book about some guy who says fuck it and leaves. Death and Taxes. Live with it. And a Kelloggs Day to you...

Hillary will fix it. You Brits can copy us in 5 years P.S. Taxes are a good thing. You pay your Uncle Sam and Dollar, and rich Daddy Warbucks pays a thousand. But not enough that Keith Richards moves back to England.

[holzz]

Oh really, do elaborate!

smoking isn't healthy.......

[Jericho]

smoking isn't healthy.......

Neither is living...It'll kill you in the end...Lets tax breathing!
(shhhhhhh, not even in jest)! :hide-1:

So, if you're working the health angle, i assume you're in favour of the Sugar Tax?

[sukumvit boy]

They can't squeeze anymore out of the smokers, they're quitting in droves.
So it's time to tax the kids, chubbies and stoners! :shrug

Right on .:rock2

[sukumvit boy]

And as already mentioned above shift the tax burden onto the little folks and away from the rich .

[buttslinger]

Listen, if you spend one dollar on a can of coke, more than 5 cents sales tax goes to the IRS. that dollar is split up, goes through the hands of bottlers, sugar companies, truckers, clerks, advertisers, expenses, etc.... and every time one of those guys gets paid the govt gets another cut from the same dollar. You end up paying a lot more tax than income, sales, and property tax.
On the other hand, my mom has received 2 million dollars retirement. Is this a great country, or what?

[Stavros]

The sugar tax on soft drinks may be the opening shot in a new 'war' on obesity, but it looks like a cheap gimmick from where I am shopping -pre-cooked meals (and yes, that includes the Jamie Oliver brand) are loaded with enough sugar to knock out a baboon. Who amongst you, when cooking Spaghetti Bolognese at home shoves teaspoonfuls of sugar in with the tomato sauce? In the UK as far as I know there is only one breakfast cereal that does not have sugar added, it is called Weetabix, whereas most other cereals are loaded with indeed in some cases coated in sugar. So if the government wants to be taken seriously, it needs a Sugar Tax part 2, Part 3 and 4 -or it could just rely on individuals and families changing the way and what it is that they eat. I think that is also called freedom.

[sukumvit boy]

:)Some of my favorites lol, ...
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[JPeterson]

Instead of taxing sugar a better solution would be stop subsidising farmers to grow corn which is then used for corn syrup in soda and boxed foods.We are essentially paying people to poision the citizenry. If the GOVT was really serious about getting America healthy again they would follow the example in other Western countries and outlaw ad's for sugar drinks and foods that are marketed to little kids ie ban adverts on kids programs. That's when they get people hooked.

[iluvtscock]

Sugar is as much of a poison as high fructose corn syrup - no way we should be consuming so much sugar or carbohydrates for that matter.
I suspect the cost of treating all the type-2 diabetics had to do with the decision to tax it.

[EZWind]

Listen, if you spend one dollar on a can of coke, more than 5 cents sales tax goes to the IRS.

....actually, I'm not so sure about that....in California the rate is 7 1/2 %.....the money goes to the California Board of Equalization. IRS is Federal....that tax is on income, not sales.



...that dollar is split up, goes through the hands of bottlers, sugar companies, truckers, clerks, advertisers, expenses, etc.... and every time one of those guys gets paid the govt gets another cut from the same dollar. ....

....true...a great many people are involved in the manufacture, distribution, marketing and sales of the product....each will earn wages which will be subject to income tax, not sales tax, which they pay, not me.


You end up paying a lot more tax than income, sales, and property tax.


...not sure how you figure that....I end up paying 7.5%, or whatever the going rate is for your state or municipality.....doesn't matter how many people are involved behind the scenes.
Actually, the can of coke ( or in my case Schweppes Ginger Ale....can't stomach any of the colas) example is specious anyway....I pay a recycling fee on the aluminum can, but if my understanding of it is correct, for California anyway, only tangible goods are subject to sales tax....furniture, cars, TVs, appliances, etc. Prescription drugs and food are not taxed.

[buttslinger]

Sorry for the flawed presentation, I think my point is that Americans pay ALOT more tax than they mail in to federal, state, and local tax collection agencies.
The Republicans say we can cut taxes by getting the economy moving again and exchanging dollars. This way the Govt can tax the same dollar over and over again.
I think there is a game going between the First Black President and Big Business.
I'm guessing this English Sugar Tax is more of a message than a tax.

[EZWind]

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The Republicans say we can cut taxes by getting the economy moving again and exchanging dollars.

...yeah, they've been singing that Voodoo economics tune for the last 36 years. Back in the Reagan years it was called Trickle Down....cut taxes for the rich and all our problems will be over and everyone will be on easy street. Problem is we're still waiting to see that happen. The rising tide will lift all boats they said. Well, it's been lifting all the yachts just fine, the only thing is they've got the rest of us in the row boats still tied up to the dock and we're fucken drowning.



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I think there is a game going between the First Black President and Big Business.


...of course it is....how blind of me not to see that the whole scheme of taxing high sugar content sodas as a way to combat diabetes and rampant obesity in the UK is all Obama's fault