Question for the guys!!!

[SashaLondon]

Hey everyone,

Although I've been on here a while, I haven't really posted much in the past. I feel like I'm at a bit of a crossroads in life, and have a question for you all!

I have been considering escorting for a while now.

So guys: Have you, or would you, date a trans girl who is currently escorting? What do you think are the pros and cons of it?
... I am single but just wondering what guys think about it.

Sasha xx

[Laphroaig]

Have a read.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?95140-Dating-a-TS-Escort

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Have not and would never.

Pros:........a source on income, you aren't selling drugs or contract killing

Cons: Dating someone who gets fucked for money. Hearing about their "day at work". Knowing someone is getting sexual with multiple other people on a regular basis. Unless I was allowed to fuck around with other girls, I wouldn't see it as fair although I would never want that in a relationship anyway. A girl who escorted in the past? Very unlikely. It would depend on how long ago it was, long she did it for and what her goals in life are. I'd most likely still not date her.

[tacocorp]

If the chemistry was there and all then possibly, but she would have no need to continue escorting then. Well, I've dated a gg dancer girl, which is different, but not by much? :D

Anyway, good luck

as for cons - the feeling that your gf had had sex with some possibly ugly dude, not the best one I'd assume, and I am not very jealous... so yea.

[Gillian]

Bound to be difficult, but "needs must" and all that. Whilst perhaps not so lucrative, is camming a possibility?


(Love your sunset photo, btw ... ;))

[SashaLondon]

Have not and would never.

Pros:........a source on income, you aren't selling drugs or contract killing

Cons: Dating someone who gets fucked for money. Hearing about their "day at work". Knowing someone is getting sexual with multiple other people on a regular basis. Unless I was allowed to fuck around with other girls, I wouldn't see it as fair although I would never want that in a relationship anyway. A girl who escorted in the past? Very unlikely. It would depend on how long ago it was, long she did it for and what her goals in life are. I'd most likely still not date her.

Interesting ... Have you ever paid to see an escort? If so, how do you justify that within yourself, to be able to have sex with a sex worker but not date a girl who is/used to be a sex worker?

[SashaLondon]

If the chemistry was there and all then possibly, but she would have no need to continue escorting then. Well, I've dated a gg dancer girl, which is different, but not by much? :D

Anyway, good luck

as for cons - the feeling that your gf had had sex with some possibly ugly dude, not the best one I'd assume, and I am not very jealous... so yea.


Well most trans women escort because of 1) lack of education, 2) poor job opportunity, especially due to point 1, and 3) because for a lot of younger girls surgery is very important to them.
... Now being in a relationship would not change any of them issues, unless you were happy to pay for any/all surgery that she wanted, and were happy to basically support her financially on a day-2-day basis too.

[SashaLondon]

Bound to be difficult, but "needs must" and all that. Whilst perhaps not so lucrative, is camming a possibility?


(Love your sunset photo, btw ... ;))


For me personally? Absolutely not.

I'm at university and I have two jobs - I'm thinking of escorting due to the privacy it would give me over web camming, which is especially important to my future career. Its just rather impossible living in central London and saving money for surgery even though I work (alongside my studies)

[scorpeo777]

no issues with escorts, some need to pay bills and other transformation expenses etc.

but as far as dating, I wouldn't date an escort as I'm not into sharing my girl. Just personal preference.

[soulvett]

I actually dated a GG who "escorted", I say that in quotations because it was more of a companion or girlfriend experience rather than just straight up sex, though I assumed it led to that generally at some point anyway. Really, it was tough, I cared for her deeply and we had a history before she took up that gig.. But I had issues in the bedroom with her simply because I kept thinking earlier in the day some other guy(s) was in her balls deep.

It fucks with you. We tried talking about it and working it out and that helped some, but in the back of my mind its there, and that's something I feel every guy (or girl, if roles were reversed) has to deal with.

[Lester316]

Guys might not give you the best answers; not sure how many have genuinely dated a TS-girl let alone an escort. Those that have done neither will only be making assumptions on how they will feel.

Perhaps ask for opinions from TS-girls who have escorted on how it affected their dating/relationships, you might get a more realistic reflection of how things can be by doing that.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Interesting ... Have you ever paid to see an escort? If so, how do you justify that within yourself, to be able to have sex with a sex worker but not date a girl who is/used to be a sex worker?

I have not. And it's easily justifiable to fuck an escort when you aren't dating her or anyone else. There is no potential for hurt feelings unless they wrong each other in some other way

[SashaLondon]

Guys might not give you the best answers; not sure how many have genuinely dated a TS-girl let alone an escort. Those that have done neither will only be making assumptions on how they will feel.

Perhaps ask for opinions from TS-girls who have escorted on how it affected their dating/relationships, you might get a more realistic reflection of how things can be by doing that.

I understand what you are saying, but I'm more interested in guys opinion of working girls, all the pros and cons in how they feel about the situation. I can imagine that guys can be put off by the situation but I'm interested in more than that.
Without being disrespectful to my sisters, I find that a lot of working trans girls views on men are a little ... tainted by their occupation. I don't want to hear "all men are dickheads, charge them all" type of speech which has happened when I've asked before

[SashaLondon]

I have not. And it's easily justifiable to fuck an escort when you aren't dating her or anyone else. There is no potential for hurt feelings unless they wrong each other in some other way


Very true. I think it there is upfront honesty on the situation, and no feelings of jealousy, then I guess some people are able to do it. I don't think if I did escort I could ever do it whilst being in a relationship, no matter how much I viewed it as work. In fact I've never really thought too much about escorting at all, up until recently when surgery became more of a priority for me.

Have you ever dated a trans girl or are you more of an admirer from afar?

[Jericho]

Pros: Free hooker sex.
Cons: Jealousy, mistrust, and eventually, an acrimonious break-up.
:shrug

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Very true. I think it there is upfront honesty on the situation, and no feelings of jealousy, then I guess some people are able to do it. I don't think if I did escort I could ever do it whilst being in a relationship, no matter how much I viewed it as work. In fact I've never really thought too much about escorting at all, up until recently when surgery became more of a priority for me.

Have you ever dated a trans girl or are you more of an admirer from afar?

If you could make it work, more power to you. I've kinda dated one but neither of us were very serious. Relationships don't interest me at all. It's not a TS thing.

[northshoreman52]

Next time I am in London, which hopefully will be soon, I would love to take you out on a date. Zuma's for drinks and dinner for a start? How does that sound?

[nysprod]

Hey everyone,

Although I've been on here a while, I haven't really posted much in the past. I feel like I'm at a bit of a crossroads in life, and have a question for you all!

I have been considering escorting for a while now.

So guys: Have you, or would you, date a trans girl who is currently escorting? What do you think are the pros and cons of it?
... I am single but just wondering what guys think about it.

Sasha xx

There are two basic broad categories of escorting

1. Taking all comers with cash. Escorting is their primary and pretty much only source of income.
2. Selectively choosing which people they'll see for cash. Escorting isn't their only source of income and for some reason, it's seen as a temporary situation.

As far as dating goes, no normal guy is going to date a #1...and for that matter the vast majority of #1's, gg or ts, have a low opinion of a man who'll date them.

Number 2 is a vastly different category...the question of dating depends on what's involved and who the girl is.

[hwbs]

I def have in the past many times... I say no for anything in the future.. Not for the obvious sex part.... Dealing with chasers 24/7 is very intrusive and very toxic part of escorting because these guys need to feel needed and wanted at all endless hours of the day...not to mention them randomly showing up at your place unannounced... I can't even go on a date here anymore without some chaser waiting for me to go to the bathroom at a restaurant so they can foolishly try to win her over

[nysprod]

I def have in the past many times... I say no for anything in the future.. Not for the obvious sex part.... Dealing with chasers 24/7 is very intrusive and very toxic part of escorting because these guys need to feel needed and wanted at all endless hours of the day...not to mention them randomly showing up at your place unannounced... I can't even go on a date here anymore without some chaser waiting for me to go to the bathroom at a restaurant so they can foolishly try to win her over

See what I mean? lol

[flabbybody]

I've been friends with lots of escorts and dated 3 of them.
It always seems like a reasonable decision to enter working life as a means to an end, but guess what? ten years later and they still haven't gone back to school, still haven't gotten a real job, still haven't completed their transition.
I don't sit in judgment but escorting is like a roach motel... easy to enter, exceedingly difficult to leave.
Proceed with caution

[dabaldone]

I've been dating trans women for 3 decades. I've dated escorts, hairdressers, lawyers and everything in between. One of the biggest issues with dating escorts is they're used to fast money. The allure of the fast life seems to never go away. Even when there's no need for her to chase money, there seems to be a need for constant validation of their womanhood. I wouldn't do it again.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I understand what you are saying, but I'm more interested in guys opinion of working girls, all the pros and cons in how they feel about the situation. I can imagine that guys can be put off by the situation but I'm interested in more than that.
Without being disrespectful to my sisters, I find that a lot of working trans girls views on men are a little ... tainted by their occupation. I don't want to hear "all men are dickheads, charge them all" type of speech which has happened when I've asked before

I propose that many trans girl escorts have a negative opinion of men is primarily all the men seem to care about is what is swinging between their legs. Within this community, once a girl has made the 'final' move and completed SRS, men in general seem to lose interest in the girls .... the 'novelty' is no longer there, in their opinion.

I recommend you establish your 'long term' goal (which I believe you've done). Then design a 'flexible' coarse of action that is not only equitable but with safety paramount. As the past has proven, escorting can be dangerous.

To answer your initial question, to be in a 'dating' situation denotes "exclusivity", to my way of thinking. At one time, I dated a girl that was a topless or nude dancer, depending on venue. It was by far, the most emotionally hectic time of my life.

Whatever you decide to do, always be vigil ... always strive to be safe. And, above all, keeps drugs out of the equation .... that IS NOT a stairway to heaven.

[SashaLondon]

Next time I am in London, which hopefully will be soon, I would love to take you out on a date. Zuma's for drinks and dinner for a start? How does that sound?

You are welcome to drop me a message :)

[SashaLondon]

There are two basic broad categories of escorting

1. Taking all comers with cash. Escorting is their primary and pretty much only source of income.
2. Selectively choosing which people they'll see for cash. Escorting isn't their only source of income and for some reason, it's seen as a temporary situation.

As far as dating goes, no normal guy is going to date a #1...and for that matter the vast majority of #1's, gg or ts, have a low opinion of a man who'll date them.

Number 2 is a vastly different category...the question of dating depends on what's involved and who the girl is.

Ahh see that was one of the other things I was wondering - do guys view the differences between the different types.
I personally am not an escort (thinking about it), and I don't technically need to be one either. I'm at university and work 2 jobs to more than support myself and buy myself nice things on special occasions. But I am now considering it as a way to have the surgeries I would like (and feel like I need) in a much quicker time. If I was completely happy with my body then I doubt I would even think about escorting

[SashaLondon]

I've been friends with lots of escorts and dated 3 of them.
It always seems like a reasonable decision to enter working life as a means to an end, but guess what? ten years later and they still haven't gone back to school, still haven't gotten a real job, still haven't completed their transition.
I don't sit in judgment but escorting is like a roach motel... easy to enter, exceedingly difficult to leave.
Proceed with caution

Well I am currently studying for my degree, half way through and have ZERO desire to quit, no matter how much money i may be able to make through possibly escorting in future. I also have two jobs, one in a managerial position and the other in the creative industry doing freelance work. I can't imagine giving either up, but instead possibly do on the side occasionally.

As nysprod indicated, I would be more category 2 if anything - I imagine I would be very selective if I choose to start working, possibly even too selective ... I don't know. Maybe because of that it may not be the best thing for me to do!

[SashaLondon]

I propose that many trans girl escorts have a negative opinion of men is primarily all the men seem to care about is what is swinging between their legs. Within this community, once a girl has made the 'final' move and completed SRS, men in general seem to lose interest in the girls .... the 'novelty' is no longer there, in their opinion.

I recommend you establish your 'long term' goal (which I believe you've done). Then design a 'flexible' coarse of action that is not only equitable but with safety paramount. As the past has proven, escorting can be dangerous.

To answer your initial question, to be in a 'dating' situation denotes "exclusivity", to my way of thinking. At one time, I dated a girl that was a topless or nude dancer, depending on venue. It was by far, the most emotionally hectic time of my life.

Whatever you decide to do, always be vigil ... always strive to be safe. And, above all, keeps drugs out of the equation .... that IS NOT a stairway to heaven.

I'm not sure - I agree that the issue is probably to do with men taking only a sexual interest in girls, but I don't think its because that goes away after SRS. I know of quite a few non-op trans working girls who have no interest in surgery but have come to despise men - they blame their work. Whether it be not being able to trust men (married clients), seeing the girls as a fetish/secret, etc. I feel like I am a little bit different because in my personal life I demand the respect I feel I deserve - If a man isn't able to show that to me then he has no chance of getting to know me in any way. Once I reveal I'm transgender I tell him that upfront. During my early stages of transition, that didn't really matter too much, I felt validated enough that a guy wanted to be between my legs. But for the last few years I've been entirely different, I don't need that type of validation from a man anymore (probably because I live a nice decent passable life)

Its interesting to hear that you had an issue with your ex who was a dancer, I assume you knew that from the beginning and at first didn't have an issue with it?

And for me drugs are a no-no. I don't even smoke and rarely drink so that is definitely out the question!

[nysprod]

Ahh see that was one of the other things I was wondering - do guys view the differences between the different types.
I personally am not an escort (thinking about it), and I don't technically need to be one either. I'm at university and work 2 jobs to more than support myself and buy myself nice things on special occasions. But I am now considering it as a way to have the surgeries I would like (and feel like I need) in a much quicker time. If I was completely happy with my body then I doubt I would even think about escorting

Who really is happy with their body...Kim K has made millions with her figure and she still got butt implants...it's a slippery slope.

Not saying this is you, but it's just so ironic how many tg's want to alter their bodies cuz they think it makes them passable, when what really happens is they become unpassable except as escorts or pornstars.

[poulen]

Sasha, here is my recommendation to you. If you really want to try escorting, start slowly and selectively, maybe once a week. Be choosy and charge decent money though not too high at the beginning. It of course depends (forgive the bluntness) on your looks (no idea if the photo is you, if so, you are very pretty and you won't have many problems). Get your own website, keep everything private and screen customers. The idea is to build a small list of clients to supplement your income but with people you are at least comfortable to be with.
Don't do it for too long, have an end date in mind.
Don't tell people, except maybe someone very close to you for safety. People judge, however much they don't mean to.

[SashaLondon]

Who really is happy with their body...Kim K has made millions with her figure and she still got butt implants...it's a slippery slope.

Not saying this is you, but it's just so ironic how many tg's want to alter their bodies cuz they think it makes them passable, when what really happens is they become unpassable except as escorts or pornstars.

Although I understand what you are saying, the reasons as to why cisgender women have cosmetic surgery is totally different to the surgery that transgender women have. The purpose of surgery for some transwomen is very important, especially when it concerns breast augmentations (due to under-development) and facial feminisation surgery. Although I may already be "passable", I would like to feel the same confidence without spending 20mins in the mirror doing my makeup. The only way I can achieve this is by having surgery. I don't even want a major alteration, just a few things which are typical "masculinisation" that the face goes through during a male puberty - so i'm essentially trying to rewind the clocks back to a time just because this happened. Then I will be happy.

One other thing which cisgender people like yourself don't understand is the benefits of safety when a trans person is "passable". In the ideal world, it would be great it no-one felt the need to conform to the ideal of social beauty/acceptance, but this is not the ideal world. Because of this it is very unsafe for trans people. I have been attacked more than I care to remember simply for being transgender, one time it was because he noticed my slight adams apple. So anyone in my position would have surgery in order to remove these masculine features, fit into society that little bit more, and reduce the chances of being attacked simply for being who you are.

... And I in no way wish to look like an escort or pornstar, whatever that look is supposed to be!

[SashaLondon]

Sasha, here is my recommendation to you. If you really want to try escorting, start slowly and selectively, maybe once a week. Be choosy and charge decent money though not too high at the beginning. It of course depends (forgive the bluntness) on your looks (no idea if the photo is you, if so, you are very pretty and you won't have many problems). Get your own website, keep everything private and screen customers. The idea is to build a small list of clients to supplement your income but with people you are at least comfortable to be with.
Don't do it for too long, have an end date in mind.
Don't tell people, except maybe someone very close to you for safety. People judge, however much they don't mean to.

Yes I would be selective. I wouldn't have the time to see those who would like to see me ... I get asked a lot if I do escort so I know people are at least interested.

What would you say is "decent money though not too high"? Yes the avatar picture and those on my profile are of me. My end date would essentially be enough money to afford surgeries that I want, possibly carrying on until I have enough to pay for my Masters degree too.

[espana]

You write beautifully Sasha. Brains and beauty is rare in a GG. To find it in a TV/TS is exceptional. Brunch/Lunch/Supper on me any time you wish. It would be an honour.

[darkrose2000]

Hey everyone,

I have been considering escorting for a while now.

So guys: Have you, or would you, date a trans girl who is currently escorting? What do you think are the pros and cons of it?
... I am single but just wondering what guys think about it.

Sasha xx

Hello "Sasha",

If you consider escorting - just try it.
There is demand, there is a market.
Especially for a beautiful girl like you.

About dating a Trans girl who escorting I do not see a problem.
I met hundreds of Tgirls with my work and some of them are enjoying to date guys.

The problem is that not many guys will accept to have a long term relationship with "working girl".

Regards,
Kalin

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Hello "Sasha",

If you consider escorting - just try it.
There is demand, there is a market.
Especially for a beautiful girl like you.

About dating a Trans girl who escorting I do not see a problem.
I met hundreds of Tgirls with my work and some of them are enjoying to date guys.

The problem is that not many guys will accept to have a long term relationship with "working girl".

Regards,
Kalin

This isn't spicy food. "Just try it" is a stupid thing to say in this situation.

[Joao T]

Hey everyone,

Although I've been on here a while, I haven't really posted much in the past. I feel like I'm at a bit of a crossroads in life, and have a question for you all!

I have been considering escorting for a while now.

So guys: Have you, or would you, date a trans girl who is currently escorting? What do you think are the pros and cons of it?
... I am single but just wondering what guys think about it.

Sasha xx

Its a possibility to have a reationship with someone who escorts, but its not easy probably your best chance would be to date someone who is in the same business .

[SashaLondon]

This isn't spicy food. "Just try it" is a stupid thing to say in this situation.

True, but that is the only way I'm going to be able to know whether I could actually do it. In all honesty I can't even remember the last time I had sex (with another person hahaha) so it may be something that I'm just not able to do..

[SashaLondon]

You write beautifully Sasha. Brains and beauty is rare in a GG. To find it in a TV/TS is exceptional. Brunch/Lunch/Supper on me any time you wish. It would be an honour.

Maybe, if you don't refer to be as a transvestite again ;) :p Haha

[SanDiegoPervySage]

True, but that is the only way I'm going to be able to know whether I could actually do it. In all honesty I can't even remember the last time I had sex (with another person hahaha) so it may be something that I'm just not able to do..

I meant it in a "put some thought into your decision" and less of a "just jump right into it" kinda way. Factor in what future employers may think of they find out you were escorting. Some may not mind out ever find out while some may have an issue with that. Even though I am not one to support the whole "sugar daddy" by any means, I would think it's a lot safer to deal with one rich guy than multiple strangers as an escort. Of course as an escort, you can at least say you kinda worked for it as opposed to getting a handout. I don't know your stance on "being spoiled" vs working for it though.

[holzz]

are you hot? yes, we can see that.

do you have a big dick? even if you don't, you can still get service.

you don't even haev to set up in central London....rents in Mayfair or even Bayswater are high, but if it's in a still accessible place on the outskirts like Croydon, Stratford, Bromley, or Kingston, rents are that high (not AS high as central London).

it's pretty simple, be hot, have a big cock, and then be in a good location. Escorting is simple. :)

[holzz]

also consider what kind of services you want to offer. top, bottom, even things like BDSM. and getting a website is easy enough, you can get somebody to design and write the sales copy, and it's simple.

[thatOneRandomHornyGuy]

yes, but he/she stopped while we were dating. I would never date one who decides to continually do it while dating. There's jobs out there and other ways to make an income

[holzz]

Hey everyone,

Although I've been on here a while, I haven't really posted much in the past. I feel like I'm at a bit of a crossroads in life, and have a question for you all!

I have been considering escorting for a while now.

So guys: Have you, or would you, date a trans girl who is currently escorting? What do you think are the pros and cons of it?
... I am single but just wondering what guys think about it.

Sasha xx

personally no. depends on the guy though.

[MrFanti]

Brains and beauty is rare in a GG.
Eh?
I see it quite often.....

[poulen]

Yes I would be selective. I wouldn't have the time to see those who would like to see me ... I get asked a lot if I do escort so I know people are at least interested.

What would you say is "decent money though not too high"? Yes the avatar picture and those on my profile are of me. My end date would essentially be enough money to afford surgeries that I want, possibly carrying on until I have enough to pay for my Masters degree too.

Ah, apologies, I hadn't seen your page or your photos. You are very pretty so the looks won't be a problem at all. Slim, fit and intelligent, you will find plenty of customers in London.

Regarding money... £100-£150 an hour to start with is normal in London. If you only plan to escort in order to achieve a specific amount and then you are out, then once you find a small clientele that you are happy with, you can probably increase it a bit, depending on services.

I must say I am surprised you say you haven't had sex for a long time, judging by your looks and intelligence exhibited by the few paragraphs you have written here.

Regardless of what you ultimately decide, best of luck and keep safe and happy.

[SashaLondon]

Ah, apologies, I hadn't seen your page or your photos. You are very pretty so the looks won't be a problem at all. Slim, fit and intelligent, you will find plenty of customers in London.

Regarding money... £100-£150 an hour to start with is normal in London. If you only plan to escort in order to achieve a specific amount and then you are out, then once you find a small clientele that you are happy with, you can probably increase it a bit, depending on services.

I must say I am surprised you say you haven't had sex for a long time, judging by your looks and intelligence exhibited by the few paragraphs you have written here.

Regardless of what you ultimately decide, best of luck and keep safe and happy.

Thanks for your advice. I think it may not be my cup of tea, I guess in monetary terms I value myself more than that and if I think about how much money I would need to make in order to achieve my end goal, that would have to involve a lot of clients! If I did get into escorting I wouldn't want it to effect my ability to study for my degree or my job.

I have the option of having sex whenever I choose and without sounding conceited get asked constantly, its been my choice to not have sex. Its difficult to know who is worth my time, when the guys who approach me are mostly (not all) looking for one thing - that is why I am now considering my options I guess.

[mussfedit]

I personally am dating a escort. It's not like it interfers with us. But we have a special bond. Being in love. So that helps.
.

[Vic]

From a hetero perspective, its almost like dating a married person; that person can never be totally emotionally available for you! Most of us, male or female have a hard time sharing the sex, and maintaining a close emotional tie to another person unless its just sex. And if its only about the sex/fun; WTF unless there are unrealistic expectations on each other's parts. I've asked this question for many years within different forums here; If a male goes thru all of the trouble and expense to transition, and gets a flavor for being desired, not to mention escorting, why the Hell would one dude think that the she-pussy is his, and his along; how about that t-ladies? Are you really looking for Mister Right or are you looking for Mister $$$; over-and-over again?

[Wallstreet114]

No. I would not. Been there and done that. Way to hard to do
Mentally and emotionally.

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

cant see myself doing that. even if i was allowed to sleep with other girls. when it comes to relationships and marriage, i take that seriously. i wouldnt sleep around and i wouldnt want my gf sleeping around even if she had the chance to get paid to do it.

now if we were fwb and she was escorting thats a different story.

[alexxxtremo]

Hi. If i met a girl, who's an escort, and i really like her, why not?, i would definitely date her. And i know, is not an easy situation, because usually the escort girls are into the fast money, and they make a lot of; so, pretty difficult to see them quitting that lifestyle. Is it possible?... yes, but complicated when the common sense says that we want our couple just for us. Cheers.

[legalman58]

I personally am dating a escort. It's not like it interfers with us. But we have a special bond. Being in love. So that helps.
.

Is she still active as an escort? Must be tough if she is - please let me know with a PM

[Chaos]

Part of me thinks that if there's enough between us nothing could interfere,but at the same time I imagine there would have to be some kind of disconnect involved...

[Legfetishnyc]

I find the thought exciting. You have to temper that with the fact that I've never dated a trans girl, only met escorts. But, . . . i find trans girls extremely exciting. Personally, i think they know deeper down what men like, and i like that.