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Mr. Sinister
11-15-2015, 04:53 AM
One of the oddest things about shemale porn is that not a lot of white transsexuals are featured as models. It seems the majority of shemale models are either Latina or Brazilian. Why haven't there been more attempts by the porn industry to shoot white transsexuals, especially in Europe? I know there is a website called UK T-Girls, but why no girls being shot from Germany, Poland, Sweden, France, and Russia. One of the hottest transsexual models I have ever seen was a white transsexual from Germany.

I am surprised more shemale porn is not being produced in Europe. It seems we have plenty of shemale porn from Asia and Latin America. I would love to hear from those who produce shemale porn about why more models from Europe are not featured. I think Europe is an untapped market for finding new transsexual models. Also, please do not view my thread in any racist form. I am just wondering why there are websites that cater to Asian shemales, Black Shemales, and Latina Shemales, but not to White shemales, who I thing are vastly underrepresented in shemale porn.

Ben in LA
11-15-2015, 06:09 AM
Well there's Kimber Lee from Deutschland...

Honestly, I can't answer your question. I know the girls are out there though.

Laphroaig
11-15-2015, 09:57 AM
I know it's from the UK T-girls site that you've already mentioned, but Redvex is Polish.

http://www.uk-tgirls.com/tour/models/RedVex.html

She's a member on here, so if she sees this thread, maybe she can offer an opinion.

Mr. Sinister
11-15-2015, 07:07 PM
Some porn producer out there should create a White T-Girls only website. In straight and gay porn, you can easily find plenty of white models, but not in TS porn.

jake999
11-15-2015, 07:19 PM
894072

christianxxx
11-15-2015, 07:19 PM
interesting topic and I would love to answer this question honestly, but it would be kinda offensive so I am going to refrain. carry on though

timxxx
11-15-2015, 07:35 PM
interesting topic and I would love to answer this question honestly, but it would be kinda offensive so I am going to refrain. carry on though

Would love your insight on this topic,try to answer in an inoffensive way.

Gillian
11-15-2015, 08:11 PM
... but it would be kinda offensive ...
Offensive to whom? Europeans or the others ... :D

Mr. Sinister
11-16-2015, 12:57 AM
interesting topic and I would love to answer this question honestly, but it would be kinda offensive so I am going to refrain. carry on though

I would love to hear your response. I don't care if you are politically correct or offend someone. This is porn that we are talking about. Why is it that the shemale porn industry has websites that cater to Latina Brazilian T-Girls, Asian T-Girls, and Black T-Girls, but not to White T-Girls? The majority of porn viewers are white males and the majority of porn models in straight and gay porn are white. Why is it the opposite in shemale porn?

Mr. Sinister
11-16-2015, 12:59 AM
Do you White T-Girls demand more money for shooting porn content? Do Asian, Latina, and Black T-Girls accept less money?

Mr. Sinister
11-16-2015, 01:07 AM
I also think that the T-Girls that create the most excitement and interest in shemale porn industry are the White ones. Kimber James created a lot of buzz and excitement when she got into porn. Bailey Jay continues to be one of the most popular models out there. I think there needs to be more content with White T-Girls like Sarina Valentina and Aubrey Kate. I also think Kylie Marie is the hostest transsexual model out there! We need more of her!

christianxxx
11-16-2015, 01:16 AM
First of all, let me say that there are a huge number of caucasian TS girls on every site and there have been forever. Look at Kylie Maria, Bailey Jay, Aubrey Kate, Morgan Bailey, Sarina Valentina, and of course the great superstar Kimber James. Devil's Films shoots many white TS girls, Joey Silvera & Jay Sin at Evil Angel - yes (although they go to Thailand & Brazil as well), Kink - shoot white girls, Transsensual Films - shoot white girls, Bob & Strokers shoot white girls too. So I don't think they are terribly underrepresented in TS porn. But the first rule of porno is to always remember that it's a fantasy. Guys jerk off to who & what they fantasize about. The majority of porn is watched & consumed in both the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia. So the fantasy of fucking foreign TS girls will sell a lot better than white TS girls especially in English speaking countries. I can find Aubrey Kate in Vegas, but I can't find Sha Sha there. Make sense?

I am going to hold off explaining my 2nd and 3rd points and see what the response is. lol

Mr. Sinister
11-16-2015, 01:31 AM
First of all, let me say that there are a huge number of caucasian TS girls on every site and there have been forever. Look at Kylie Maria, Bailey Jay, Aubrey Kate, Morgan Bailey, Sarina Valentina, and of course the great superstar Kimber James. Devil's Films shoots many white TS girls, Joey Silvera & Jay Sin at Evil Angel - yes (although they go to Thailand & Brazil as well), Kink - shoot white girls, Transsensual Films - shoot white girls, Bob & Strokers shoot white girls too. So I don't think they are terribly underrepresented in TS porn. But the first rule of porno is to always remember that it's a fantasy. Guys jerk off to who & what they fantasize about. The majority of porn is watched & consumed in both the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia. So the fantasy of fucking foreign TS girls will sell a lot better than white TS girls especially in English speaking countries. I can find Aubrey Kate in Vegas, but I can't find Sha Sha there. Make sense?

I am going to hold off explaining my 2nd and 3rd points and see what the response is. lol

But here is where I disagree with you. The majority of straight and gay porn performers are WHITE! Why would males, specifically white males, want to watch white models in straight and gay porn, but not in shemale porn? I do think porn films with White shemales sell just as well as those with non-white ones. I would love to see a porn site that caters to just White transsexuals. I think it would do very well financially.

Mr. Sinister
11-16-2015, 01:48 AM
Also, in Western Countries, like the USA, Canada, and UK, the typical porn star look that preferred is blond hair, blue eyes, fake boobs, and being WHITE. Jenna Jameson, the most famous porn star in history, fits that description very well and she is white. I find it very hard to believe that porn viewers in Western Countries want to see non-white shemale porn, but prefer straight and gay porn that is majority white.

SoCalDru
11-16-2015, 02:06 AM
I don't discriminate... I jerk off to all types of Shemales. Love them all!

youngblood61
11-16-2015, 04:43 AM
I don't discriminate... I jerk off to all types of Shemales. Love them all!I agree!

Nikka
11-16-2015, 05:07 AM
idiot

eded
11-16-2015, 05:20 AM
Why is it that the shemale porn industry has websites that cater to Latina Brazilian T-Girls, Asian T-Girls, and Black T-Girls, but not to White T-Girls?
Latina is not a race. There are latinas mainly of mixed background, there are also black latinas, white latinas, native indian latinas and even asian latinas.

ILoveTransWomen
11-16-2015, 06:55 AM
There are PLENTY of beautiful white T-Girls in porn. I've been a member of several different TG porn sites over the last three years and have not noticed an particular lack of them.

Trapt53
11-16-2015, 07:39 AM
But here is where I disagree with you. The majority of straight and gay porn performers are WHITE! Why would males, specifically white males, want to watch white models in straight and gay porn, but not in shemale porn? I do think porn films with White shemales sell just as well as those with non-white ones. I would love to see a porn site that caters to just White transsexuals. I think it would do very well financially.

There are 894 models listed as Caucasion on shemalestardb.com.

http://shemalestardb.com/tegs/?id=9

There are plenty of white models out there, but it seems you specifically want non-UK European models. That's going to limit your options. There are supposedly a lot of Russian transwomen out there.

https://tatiso.newdosug.eu/ru/d/part/5

Maybe, they prefer escorting to porn. I don't know. Maybe, the disparity is due acceptance or lack there of to transgendered people in general. Places like Thailand, The Philippines, and Brazil seem to be more accepting of transwomen in public than a lot of other places, which may be why they produce so many porn actresses.

tzar
11-16-2015, 07:42 AM
idk but imo Brazilians/Latinas TS > all

giovanni_hotel
11-16-2015, 08:54 AM
Is Christian going to reveal his 2nd and 3rd points about why there might be less White TS in porn??

I never noticed that BTW.

If I see fair skin and straight hair, unless they're Asian, in my mind I'm seeing White.

I think American White TS probably cost more to hire, just my uneducated theory.

shushu
11-16-2015, 12:07 PM
There are German Trans Women in porn. Kimber Lee was mentioned by Ben.
Also to name Mandy May, Nicole Charming, and Paris Deluxxxe.
There might be fewer for some other reasons. Due to public health system, trans women in a lot of European countries get their SRS payed by health insurance, of course after long term psychological tests. A lot of them have their SRS in young age and they don't have a need to do sex work to earn money for SRS.
Another reason as mentioned by Christian is, that transexual porn is maybe not that popular in parts of Germany. In my impressions, Germans like kinky sex like scat, bukakke, fisting and bondage.
Of course I love to watch German transsexual porn especially because of the language.
There has been German transsexual porn in past too. My favorite is Color Climax Film No.1396 – Transexual Pleasure (1983).

Grotahh
11-16-2015, 01:10 PM
Shushu : There might be fewer for some other reasons. Due to public health system, trans women in a lot of European countries get their SRS payed by health insurance, of course after long term psychological tests. A lot of them have their SRS in young age and they don't have a need to do sex work to earn money for SRS.

I agree,i agree completely! It's the main reason.

Mr. Sinister
11-18-2015, 04:10 PM
There are 894 models listed as Caucasion on shemalestardb.com.

http://shemalestardb.com/tegs/?id=9

There are plenty of white models out there, but it seems you specifically want non-UK European models. That's going to limit your options. There are supposedly a lot of Russian transwomen out there.

https://tatiso.newdosug.eu/ru/d/part/5

Maybe, they prefer escorting to porn. I don't know. Maybe, the disparity is due acceptance or lack there of to transgendered people in general. Places like Thailand, The Philippines, and Brazil seem to be more accepting of transwomen in public than a lot of other places, which may be why they produce so many porn actresses.

I will have to disagree with you. Europe, especially Western Europe, is far more LGBT friendly than Thailand, the Philippines, and Brazil. It is also a lot safer to travel to Western European countries like Holland, Sweden, Germany, and France than to travel to Thailand or Brazil. I would also state that Europeans are far more sexually open towards transsexuals than in Brazil or even in Thailand.

I just don't understand why no porn company or pornographers have chosen not to shoot more content in Western Europe. Brazil and Thailand can be far more dangerous places for foreigners compared to Germany, Sweden, France, and Holland.

Mr. Sinister
11-18-2015, 04:14 PM
Is Christian going to reveal his 2nd and 3rd points about why there might be less White TS in porn??

I never noticed that BTW.

If I see fair skin and straight hair, unless they're Asian, in my mind I'm seeing White.

I think American White TS probably cost more to hire, just my uneducated theory.

I think you might be correct about American White shemales costing more to hire. If I am not mistaken, white American shemale pornstar Kelly Klaymore is leaving porn because she says she is not getting paid enough money. Maybe, it is cheaper to hire a Mexican shemale in the United States versus a White American shemale. For those who shoot shemale porn, do white American transsexuals demand more money than Mexican or other non-white shemale performers?

Mr. Sinister
11-18-2015, 04:19 PM
In terms of escorting, I know that White American shemales tend to be the most in demand in the United States. Most White American shemales tend to charge premium rates and they don't seem to have a problem getting customers. I would even venture to say that they get the most customers compared to any of the other racial ethnic groups in the USA. I still strongly believe that White shemales in porn are the most desirable.

Mr. Sinister
11-22-2015, 07:20 PM
Checkout German shemale Mandy May! Again, why aren't more white shemales being shot, especially in Europe? White European shemales are the HOTTEST!

Laphroaig
11-22-2015, 07:51 PM
In terms of escorting, I know that White American shemales tend to be the most in demand in the United States. Most White American shemales tend to charge premium rates and they don't seem to have a problem getting customers. I would even venture to say that they get the most customers compared to any of the other racial ethnic groups in the USA. I still strongly believe that White shemales in porn are the most desirable.

If you are correct about "white shemales" being in the minority in both escorting and porn, then that's simply the law of supply and demand in action. They can charge whatever they like and still get clients...:shrug

Lysandros
11-24-2015, 02:54 AM
I think you might be correct about American White shemales costing more to hire. If I am not mistaken, white American shemale pornstar Kelly Klaymore is leaving porn because she says she is not getting paid enough money. Maybe, it is cheaper to hire a Mexican shemale in the United States versus a White American shemale. For those who shoot shemale porn, do white American transsexuals demand more money than Mexican or other non-white shemale performers?


Apropos KK

If you as tgirl porn actress are only ready to work with females you should not complain about too few offers. TGirl & GG is a niche in a niche.

youngblood61
11-24-2015, 03:50 AM
There are plenty out there.

Mr. Sinister
12-04-2016, 05:53 PM
There are plenty out there.
There are plenty out there, but they don't seem to get as many job opportunities as non-white shemales. Kylie Maria has only shot three scenes for companies like Kink.com while it seems Venus Lux or Foxxxy have shot for Kink for the 100th time already.

holzz
12-04-2016, 11:24 PM
not many big porn studios in Europe, unlike the US, or South America for TS porn at least.

There are plenty of smaller time actresses though, who work the world over. UK, Germany, Italy have a lot of these, and UK has more bigger known ones like Joanna Jet, Liberty Harkness.

most tend to be webcamers or amateurs.

holzz
12-04-2016, 11:25 PM
There are plenty out there, but they don't seem to get as many job opportunities as non-white shemales. Kylie Maria has only shot three scenes for companies like Kink.com while it seems Venus Lux or Foxxxy have shot for Kink for the 100th time already.

loolol. maybe it's because Venus Lux is a bigger draw? or she gets more hits. And why isn't Foxxy white? she is, you should be happy.

Why not just see another site, if you don't like their content?

Jimmy W
12-05-2016, 04:02 AM
Why are any of you giving this obvious douchebag trouble making troll the time of day?

natina
12-05-2016, 10:37 AM
Exclamation because the church,Kkk,ayran nation,alt right,neocons,Republicans
There are not as many white T girls in the USA because of social norms many transition very late in life.

Go to Asia are Mexico and there is a abundance and its more socially acceptable.

holzz
12-05-2016, 10:21 PM
Why are any of you giving this obvious douchebag trouble making troll the time of day?

I was having fun with him haha

holzz
12-05-2016, 10:22 PM
Exclamation because the church,Kkk,ayran nation,alt right,neocons,Republicans
There are not as many white T girls in the USA because of social norms many transition very late in life.

Go to Asia are Mexico and there is a abundance and its more socially acceptable.

depends where in Asia. if anything most in Thailand or Cambodia or Phillipines or Korea get discriminated against.

Nassau
12-05-2016, 11:17 PM
Simple answer
Blacks, latinas, and asians are minorities
So they're a niche within a niche if that make sense checkout shemaleyum its mostly white

smooth007
12-06-2016, 02:28 AM
what a stupid thread! Most of the shemales I see are white, so I don't know what this guy is on about.

holzz
12-20-2016, 01:35 AM
what a stupid thread! Most of the shemales I see are white, so I don't know what this guy is on about.

just looking for attention.

Lester316
12-20-2016, 04:34 AM
One of the oddest things about shemale porn is that not a lot of white transsexuals are featured as models. It seems the majority of shemale models are either Latina or Brazilian. Why haven't there been more attempts by the porn industry to shoot white transsexuals, especially in Europe? I know there is a website called UK T-Girls, but why no girls being shot from Germany, Poland, Sweden, France, and Russia. One of the hottest transsexual models I have ever seen was a white transsexual from Germany.

I am surprised more shemale porn is not being produced in Europe. It seems we have plenty of shemale porn from Asia and Latin America. I would love to hear from those who produce shemale porn about why more models from Europe are not featured. I think Europe is an untapped market for finding new transsexual models. Also, please do not view my thread in any racist form. I am just wondering why there are websites that cater to Asian shemales, Black Shemales, and Latina Shemales, but not to White shemales, who I thing are vastly underrepresented in shemale porn.

The odd thing is that you are making this point when it's easy to name several dozen white performers. It's almost as if you are just trying to stir the pot and provoke a reaction... but why would anyone do that on the internet...?

DeezNuts515
12-20-2016, 04:42 PM
loolol. maybe it's because Venus Lux is a bigger draw? or she gets more hits. And why isn't Foxxy white? she is, you should be happy.

Why not just see another site, if you don't like their content?

Foxxy is white? Do you even have eyes?

holzz
12-20-2016, 10:13 PM
Foxxy is white? Do you even have eyes?

yes, I do have eyes. and to me she is white. am i not allowed to express this view? cos you say so?

filghy2
12-21-2016, 07:47 AM
He probably means she is Hispanic (ie Latin american ancestry). Obviously a person can be both Hispanic and white - they are two different dimensions. I think when some people say 'white' they really mean someone of Anglo-Saxon/Northern European ancestry.

holzz
12-21-2016, 02:46 PM
and to me she is white. i don't see the contention.

Lester316
12-21-2016, 06:12 PM
and to me she is white. i don't see the contention.

Maybe you could pop over to her twitter and ask for clarification.. I suspect if you asked her if she identified as white she'd say no though. As said below most folks see white as being of Anglo-Saxon/Northern European ancestry (as in Caucasian) whilst those with a Latin or Hispanic ancestry identify differently. To you she might be 'white' but that just means you're wrong and probably need to visit an optician.

DeezNuts515
12-21-2016, 09:29 PM
Maybe you could pop over to her twitter and ask for clarification.. I suspect if you asked her if she identified as white she'd say no though. As said below most folks see white as being of Anglo-Saxon/Northern European ancestry (as in Caucasian) whilst those with a Latin or Hispanic ancestry identify differently. To you she might be 'white' but that just means you're wrong and probably need to visit an optician.

This. She clearly has multiracial features, there is zero way that woman would pass as "white" to anyone not a complete moron.

holzz
12-21-2016, 11:50 PM
Maybe you could pop over to her twitter and ask for clarification.. I suspect if you asked her if she identified as white she'd say no though. As said below most folks see white as being of Anglo-Saxon/Northern European ancestry (as in Caucasian) whilst those with a Latin or Hispanic ancestry identify differently. To you she might be 'white' but that just means you're wrong and probably need to visit an optician.
people have opinions. i don't get why that bothers you...or who makes opinions or not.

Lester316
12-22-2016, 06:16 AM
people have opinions. i don't get why that bothers you...or who makes opinions or not.

It really doesn't bother me; it's just my opinion - that you're wrong.

holzz
12-22-2016, 06:37 AM
what is right or wrong? you say so? i'm not bothered, but you think your way, and I will think mine

legault
12-22-2016, 07:10 AM
Official races are

White
Black
Oriental
Indigenous Americans/Alaskan Native
Meztizo/Mixed Race, which can mean any mix of the 4 above.

Foxxy is likely meztizo and her mix is likely indigenous and white.

Jericho
12-22-2016, 07:14 AM
Official races are
.

Don't forget the marathon!

Stavros
12-22-2016, 09:18 AM
Official races are

White
Black
Oriental
Indigenous Americans/Alaskan Native
Meztizo/Mixed Race, which can mean any mix of the 4 above.

Foxxy is likely meztizo and her mix is likely indigenous and white.

Yet another reason for this thread to die of shame.

Ben in LA
12-22-2016, 12:57 PM
Oriental??

SanDiegoPervySage
12-22-2016, 04:40 PM
Oriental??

Asian

GroobySteven
12-22-2016, 05:12 PM
Asian

From India?

GroobySteven
12-22-2016, 05:12 PM
Official races are

White
Black
Oriental
Indigenous Americans/Alaskan Native
Meztizo/Mixed Race, which can mean any mix of the 4 above.

Foxxy is likely meztizo and her mix is likely indigenous and white.

That's utterly asinine.

chupapau
12-22-2016, 07:33 PM
To OP : change your name to Skankhunt42 please

to all others :

People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
So we're different colours
And we're different creeds
And different people have different needs
It's obvious you hate me
Though I've done nothing wrong
I never even met you
So what could I have done
I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand
People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully
Help me understand
Now you're punching and you're kicking
And you're shouting at me
I'm relying on your common decency
So far it hasn't surfaced
But I'm sure it exists
It just takes a while to travel
From your head to your fist
I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand

He who posts the Youtube link gets all my love for Christmass. (You know, the annual party where out of northern hemisphere culture we celebrate the return of light, not the birth of a poor boy out of wedlock)

filghy2
12-23-2016, 12:55 AM
Classifying humanity into different races is completely bogus scientifically - 99.99 per cent of our genetic code is identical across all humanity. Racial classification was largely an invention of Europeans in the 18th/19th century trying to justify why they should rule over the rest of the world.

holzz
12-23-2016, 04:14 AM
not really, since it's proven that there are diferences. bone structure, susceptibility to diseases, etc. are common points.

surya
01-04-2017, 09:13 PM
I think the OP was asking about "European" as a region - as in from/living in Europe - rather then referring to a race. Obviously, there are plenty of Caucasian girls in porn - but there are very few EUROPEAN (ie German, French, Spanish) girls. I travel there a lot and there are a lot of ts escorts to be found - mainly from Romania, Hungary, Turkey, etc etc.

So - back to the OPs question - why no EUROPEAN ts porn?

holzz
01-05-2017, 01:01 AM
i dunno.....then he should get others to set some sites up.

bitching on a forum won't change anything.

fuckstudent
01-05-2017, 02:23 AM
I guess porn comapanies here are not supporting trans scene, dont see good selling potencial in this little scene, dont pay enough for scenes. Most of girls go to america, because they think they will make big bucks there. Also for producers its probably more cheap to go to thailand or brazil and shoot with their girls. And somehow i cant really name many european trans girls that i would call insanely beautiful as i can with south americans or asians. I also checked many european escort pages. Most of girls which i found really beautiful were not caucasians. America is big market and even there you can't find many caucasian girls which are really feminine and beautiful. I guess caucasian genetic doesnt allow MTF look so feminine. I know in private one cute trans girl from austria which is on beauty level of all white trans porngirls from america, but she will not go into porn :D

holzz
01-05-2017, 04:33 AM
UK is the exception though in Europe, but then the USA has always had the biggest porn industry. seems only natural that they would go there.