DNC Delcares War on...AlQaeda?(NYTimes)

[White_Male_Canada]

NOT !!!! :lol:

Democrats Run as Wal-Mart Foe

DES MOINES, Aug. 16 — Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, a likely Democratic presidential candidate in 2008, delivered a 15-minute, blistering attack to warm applause from Democrats and union organizers here on Wednesday. But Mr. Biden’s main target was not Republicans in Washington, or even his prospective presidential rivals.

It was Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest private employer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/washington/17dems.html?ex=1313467200&en=082dce1f1f00051b&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

[JRon]

NOT !!!! :lol:

Democrats Run as Wal-Mart Foe

DES MOINES, Aug. 16 — Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, a likely Democratic presidential candidate in 2008, delivered a 15-minute, blistering attack to warm applause from Democrats and union organizers here on Wednesday. But Mr. Biden’s main target was not Republicans in Washington, or even his prospective presidential rivals.

It was Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest private employer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/washington/17dems.html?ex=1313467200&en=082dce1f1f00051b&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Wait, and the Republican President is going to war on AlQaeda and Osama Bin Laden? Maybe I am missing something but aren't we STILL in Iraq?

Yes and also

Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Oh yeah, and haven't you limperals been whining about America meddling against Hezbollah in Lebanon?

I guess that means we're fighting terror in Lebanon, too.

Oh yeah, and Palestine

and Gaza

and Jordan.... lol

and Syria....


That's why you guys can't win elections. You think all wars are fought on one front.

Actually, I don't think you really believe that. I think you WANT to believe that, that way you don't have to get into any more unpleasant confrontations.

Liberals will pay ANY price for peace but little price for freedom.

[chefmike]

Maybe you neocon cocksuckers shouldn't start sucking each other's dicks just yet...

It looks like the speech that Karl "the criminal" Rove scripted and provided for Maliki was a just another sloppy attempt at damage control by the neocon gang of stooges in the White House...

Iraq breaks with U.S. and assails Israeli raids

By EDWARD WONG and MICHAEL SLACKMAN
Published: July 20, 2006


BAGHDAD, Iraq, July 19 — Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq on Wednesday forcefully denounced the Israeli attacks on Lebanon, marking a sharp break with President Bush’s position and highlighting the growing power of a Shiite Muslim identity across the Middle East.

“The Israeli attacks and airstrikes are completely destroying Lebanon’s infrastructure,” Mr. Maliki said at an afternoon news conference inside the fortified Green Zone, which houses the American Embassy and the seat of the Iraqi government. “I condemn these aggressions and call on the Arab League foreign ministers’ meeting in Cairo to take quick action to stop these aggressions. We call on the world to take quick stands to stop the Israeli aggression.”

The American Embassy did not provide an immediate response.

The comments by Mr. Maliki, a Shiite Arab whose party has close ties to Iran, were noticeably stronger than those made by Sunni Arab governments in recent days. Those governments have refused to take an unequivocal stand on Lebanon, reflecting their concern about the growing influence of Iran, which has a Shiite majority and has been accused by Israel of providing weapons to Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shiite militant group.

Top Shiite politicians in Iraq have myriad connections to Iran. Many officials in Maliki's political group, the Islamic Dawa Party, fled into exile there to escape persecution by Saddam Hussein.

Maliki also has other ties to pro- Hezbollah leaders in the region.

He spent most of his 23 years in exile in Syria, where he ran the Damascus branch of the Dawa Party. Syria supports Hezbollah and Hamas, the militant group that now leads the Palestinian government.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/20/news/shiite.php

Are you ever going to post anything conclusive on this message board? All you've given us is media reports, pictures and links.

You take no positions on anything, instead you hide behind the skirts of columnists and editors.

At this point, you're irrelevant on this board. You're like Hezbollah hiding behind women and children.

[chefmike]

Are you denying that the puppet government that the neocon war criminals in the oval office have set up in Iraq have Hezbollah ties and sympathies?

At this point, you're irrelevant on this board. You're like the chickenhawk draft-dodging neocons in the white house spouting BS about "cut and run" that you constantly make excuses for...

You are just another hypocritical bible-banging jackass who's in the closet.

Are you denying that the puppet government that the neocon war criminals in the oval office have set up in Iraq have Hezbollah ties and sympathies?

No need to deny it, it's out in the open. At least the sympathies for Hezbollah are open and notorious and I respect that far more than guys who are closet Hezbollah supporters like you are.

Say what you want about those guys, at least they hate America openly.

You on the other hand preach "hate America" under the cover and protection of America. A true coward and yellow-belly, even your dad would be ashamed of you.... that is if he were still around.

Removing Saddam has been a miracle success for America. Factions in Iraq may be sympathetic for Hezbollah, but those factions are resource crippled and can offer no support other than useless threats and gestures.

[chefmike]

You on the other hand preach "hate America" under the cover and protection of America. A true coward and yellow-belly, even your dad would be ashamed of you.... that is if he were still around.

As a matter of fact he's not around. But since you brought my father up, he was a USMC vet who served in the Korean War and died of lung cancer at the age of 56. And I served four years on the flight deck of the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63 aka the Shitty Kitty.

But don't mistake me...I'm not looking for empathy from a neocon chickenhawk like yourself, or those who you shill for, nor would my father have...your kind is never around when it's time to put up or shut up...

You on the other hand preach "hate America" under the cover and protection of America. A true coward and yellow-belly, even your dad would be ashamed of you.... that is if he were still around.

As a matter of fact he's not around. But since you brought my father up, he was a USMC vet who served in the Korean War and died of lung cancer at the age of 56. And I served four years on the flight deck of the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63 aka the Shitty Kitty.


You don't expect anyone around here to believe you actually served in the US Military, do you? Props to your dad for serving his country, but your story is a lie and a damn lie.

A male who spends his time obsessing about the the affairs and financial profits of other men and worries that "we are creating more terrorists", doesn't seem like much of a man at all and even less a servicemen.

I'm embarrassed for you that in your late 40's to early 50's, you positions and arguments rest on comic strips and anti-Americanism. Even worse, just yesterday I put your age somewhere between 16-23 years old...

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=10389&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

That's how you come across. Like a bitter child.

[chefmike]

Just more BS from a chickenhawk trying to make himself feel better about his hypocrisy and cowardice...

"creating more terrorists?"...I'm sure that wimps like you know more about that than vets like John Murtha...and my father and myself...and the countless other vets and active duty military speaking out against the fiasco in Iraq...

And I'm supposed to give a shit about what a neocon shill like yourself, who was obviously suckled on rush the junkie's tit, thinks my age or experience is?...nice try but no cigar, jackass...you've probably never even been in a fistfight...


And you can save your props, chickenhawk...my father served his country, as did I...no "props" are needed from deluded chickenshits like you.

[Jamie Michelle]

Yes and also

Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Oh yeah, and haven't you limperals been whining about America meddling against Hezbollah in Lebanon?

I guess that means we're fighting terror in Lebanon, too.

Oh yeah, and Palestine

and Gaza

and Jordan.... lol

and Syria....


That's why you guys can't win elections. You think all wars are fought on one front.

Actually, I don't think you really believe that. I think you WANT to believe that, that way you don't have to get into any more unpleasant confrontations.

Liberals will pay ANY price for peace but little price for freedom.

Why would the U.S. government be interested in killing their goose that lays them golden eggs?

""
PRESIDENT Bush said yesterday that he wanted Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile, "dead or alive" in some of the most bellicose language used by a White House occupant in recent years.

"I want justice," he said after a meeting at the Pentagon, where 188 people were killed last Tuesday when an airliner crashed into the building. "And there's an old poster out West that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.' "

He then seemed to temper his remarks by adding: "All I want and America wants is to see them brought to justice. That's what we want."
""

From "Bin Laden is wanted: dead or alive, says Bush," Toby Harnden, Telegraph (U.K.), September 18, 2001 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/18/wbush18.xml

""
Q: But then you believe the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

Bush: Well, as I say, we hadn't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, you know, again, I don't know where he is. . . . I repeat what I said: I truly am not that concerned about him. . . .
""

From "'It's Not Helpful What the Israelis Have Recently Done,'" Federal News Service via Washington Post, March 14, 2002; Page A20 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24243-2002Mar13.html

""
A plot to carry out a large-scale terror attack against the United States in the near future is being directed by Osama bin Laden and other top al Qaeda members, senior intelligence officials said Thursday.
""

From "Officials: Bin Laden guiding plots against U.S.--Ridge: Terrorists' aim is to influence presidential vote," Mike Ahlers, CNN, July 8, 2004 http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/08/ridge.alqaeda/

""
"When [Osama bin Laden] says he's going to hurt the American people again, or try to, he means it," Bush told reporters after visiting the NSA, where the surveillance program is based. "I take it seriously, and the people of NSA take it seriously."
""

From "Bush: Take bin Laden attack threat seriously--President rejects renewed criticism of warrantless spying program," Associated Press (AP), January 26, 2006 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11018747/

"Let Bin Laden stay free, says CIA man," Tony Allen-Mills, Sunday Times (U.K.), January 9, 2005 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1431539,00.html

"C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden," Mark Mazzetti, New York Times, July 4, 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

"Osama bin Laden: A Weapon of Mass Convenience," WhatReallyHappened.com:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamabinladen_wmc.html

Many of the bin Laden family are big-time businessmen in the U.S. and have very close ties to top-level U.S. politicians. For example, the Bushes and the bin Ladens are long-time family-friends and business partners. The bin Laden family runs the largest construction company in the Middle East (i.e., the Saudi Binladen Group, http://www.sbg.com.sa ), of which company the U.S. government uses to construct all of its Middle East military bases, even to rebuild the ones that Osama is said to have blown up (such as after the June 25, 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia).

Regarding the new barracks complex that was built after the Khobar Towers bombing, Air Force Magazine wrote in their February 1999 issue:

"In a supreme irony, the complex was built by the giant contractor, Saudi bin Laden Group--owned by the same family that produced international terrorist Osama bin Laden, now an outcast in his homeland." ("Desert Stronghold," William H. McMichael, Air Force Magazine--Journal of the Air Force Association, February 1999, Vol. 82, No. 2 http://www.afa.org/magazine/feb1999/0299desert.asp )

Here's another way the bin Laden family benefits financially from Osama's supposed attacks:

"Do bin Ladens benefit financially from attack?--Iridium phones suddenly in high demand for rescue efforts," Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily.com, September 17, 2001 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24519

Moreover, Osama bin Laden is a known CIA asset:

"Bin Laden comes home to roost--His CIA ties are only the beginning of a woeful story," Michael Moran, MSNBC, August 24, 1998 http://web.archive.org/web/19981202035147/http://www.msnbc.com/news/190144.asp
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:BsvD09taYrcJ:www.msnbc.com/news/190144.asp

"Who is Osama Bin Laden?," BBC News, September 18, 2001 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/155236.stm

Under contract with the CIA, Osama bin Laden and his family company built the multi-billion dollar "caves" in which he was supposedly hiding during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan:

"[Osama bin Laden] brought in engineers from his father's company and heavy construction equipment to build roads and warehouses for the Mujaheddin. In 1986, he helped build a CIA-financed tunnel complex, to serve as a major arms storage depot, training facility and medical center for the Mujaheddin, deep under the mountains close to the Pakistan border." ("How a Holy War against the Soviets turned on US," Ahmed Rashid, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, September 23, 2001, Sunday, Two Star Edition, pg. A-12 http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/pittsburghpostgazette092301.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20021118034524/http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeline/2001/pittsburghpostgazette092301.html .)

As well, Bush, Jr. is former business partners with Osama bin Laden's older brother Salem:

"Bin Laden's family link to Bush," Peter Allen, Daily Mail (U.K.), September 24, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011127003108/http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/news/article.html?in_article_id=74355

"Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?," James Hatfield, Online Journal, July 3, 2001 http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

And even after the 9/11 attacks, Bush, Sr. was business partners with the bin Laden family in the Carlyle Group, one of the world's largest military-weapons contractors (hence both families benefit again from Osama's supposed attacks with the increase in U.S. government weapons spending):

"Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank," Daniel Golden, James Bandler and Marcus Walker, Wall Street Journal, September 27, 2001 http://interactive.wsj.com/archive/retrieve.cgi?id=SB1001546348608890000.djm
http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/wsjarticle.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL110A.html

"Wall Street Journal: Bush Sr. in Business with bin Laden Family Conglomerate through Carlyle Group," Judicial Watch, September 28, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011009024633/http://www.judicialwatch.org/press_release.asp?pr_id=1624

Also, Bush, Jr. has given the Taliban over 125 million dollars in the year of 2001, before the 9/11 attacks:

"Bush's Faustian Deal With the Taliban," Robert Scheer, Los Angeles Times, May 22, 2001 http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm

"Afghanistan," Washington Post, September 15, 2001; Page A26 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A34423-2001Sep14

"U.S. Taxpayers send Billions to our Enemies in Afghanistan," Congressman Ron Paul, Texas Straight Talk, November 5, 2001 http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst110501.htm

See also the below documentation resource:

http://www.bushnews.com/attack.htm

Indeed, the Taliban was created by the CIA:

"CIA worked in tandem with Pak to create Taliban," Indo-Asian News Service (IANS), March 7, 2001 http://www.timesofindia.com/today/07euro1.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20010310083514/http://www.timesofindia.com/070301/07euro1.htm

The U.S. government protection didn't just stop with with the particular "hijackers" who were being flight-trained in the U.S. (including with many of the accused "hijackers" living on U.S. military bases). Before the 9/11 attacks, as disclosed in the official FBI document numbered 199I-WF-213589 and which came from the FBI's Washington, D.C. field office--of which was originally an order by former President Clinton and subsequently re-ordered by President George Bush, Jr.--the FBI was ordered to back-off of their investigations into the bin Laden family, the royal House of Saud, and suspected terrorist organizations with links to Osama bin Laden:

"Has someone been sitting on the FBI?," Greg Palast, BBC Newsnight, November 6, 2001 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/events/newsnight/1645527.stm

"FBI claims Bin Laden inquiry was frustrated--Officials told to 'back off' on Saudis before September 11," Greg Palast and David Pallister, Guardian (U.K.), November 7, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,589173,00.html

"Bush took FBI agents off Laden family trail," Rashmee Z. Ahmed, Times News Network, November 7, 2001 http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1030259305
http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305

"US agents told: Back off bin Ladens," Sydney Morning Herald, November 7, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011109180353/http://www.smh.com.au/news/0111/07/world/world100.html

"Bush thwarted FBI probe against bin Ladens," Agence France-Presse (AFP), November 7, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011108002028/http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/071101/dlame43.asp

"US agents told to back off bin Ladens," Ananova, November 7, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20011109171427/http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_443114.html

"US agents were told to 'back off Bin Ladens'," Independent Online, November 7, 2001 http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw1005113520874B221

Very much related to the above articles, see also the below very important article:

"Called Off the Trail?--FBI Agents Probing Terror Links Say They Were Told, 'Let Sleeping Dogs Lie,'" Brian Ross and Vic Walter, ABC News, December 19, 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/20021220054102/http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/FBI_whistleblowers021219.html

This protection of the bin Laden family and the Royal House of Saud continued even after the 9/11 attacks. Within minutes of the attacks on 9/11, the Federal Aviation Administration sent out a special notification ordering every airborne plane in the United States to land at the nearest airport as soon as possible, and prohibiting planes on the ground from taking off. Yet scores of members and associates of two families with close business and social ties to the Bush family--the bin Ladens, and the royal family of Saudi Arabia--were allowed the only flights out of the country on those days. This included members of the bin Laden family who were suspected by the FBI of being involved with terrorism, such as Khalil, Abdullah and Omar bin Laden. See:

"Saving the Saudis," Craig Unger, Vanity Fair, October 2003 issue http://www.wesjones.com/saudi1.htm

"Administration Approves Evacuation of bin Ladens After 9-11 Despite Open Investigation," Public Education Center, updated September 11, 2003 http://www.publicedcenter.org/stories/saudi-evacuation

"Phantom Flight From Florida," Kathy Steele, Brenna Kelly and Elizabeth Lee Brown, Tampa Tribune, October 5, 2001 http://web.archive.org/web/20011108145853/http://www.tampatrib.com/MGA3F78EFSC.html
http://www.rense.com/general29/resuc.htm

This same U.S. government protection extended all the way up to Osama bin Laden himself. In 1996, the Sudan government offered to arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in U.S. custody but then-President Clinton refused the offer, despite the fact that in 1995 Osama bin Laden had already been named by the U.S. government as a wanted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing:

"U.S. Was Foiled Multiple Times in Efforts To Capture Bin Laden or Have Him Killed--Sudan's Offer to Arrest Militant Fell Through After Saudis Said No," Barton Gellman, Washington Post, October 3, 2001; Page A01 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac3/ContentServer?pagename=article&articleid=A61251-2001Oct2

"Plan to arrest bin Laden in 1996 fell apart: report," Agence France-Presse (AFP), October 3, 2001 http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/afpsudan.html

"Thanks, But No Thanks--How the U.S. Missed a Chance to Get Bin Laden," Jennifer Gould, Village Voice, October 31, 2001-November 6, 2001 http://villagevoice.com/issues/0144/gould.php

From the above article (quoting a U.S. intelligence source): "We kidnap minor drug czars and bring them back in burlap bags. Somebody didn't want this to happen."

"Clinton Spurned Bin Laden Offer Because He Didn't Want to Work With Sudan, Analyst Says," Stephen Mbogo, Cybercast News Service, September 04, 2003 http://www.cnsnews.com/ForeignBureaus/archive/200309/FOR20030904h.html

For more on all this, see the below documentation resource:

"Gaping Holes in the 'CIA vs. bin Laden' Story," Jared Israel, Emperor's New Clothes, November 8, 2001 http://emperors-clothes.com/news/probestop-i.htm

The Clinton Administration also prevented the FBI from attempting to arrest Osama bin Laden:

"Reno nixed plan to nab bin Laden--Former attorney general concluded '98 mission to arrest Osama in Afghanistan 'too dangerous'," WorldNetDaily.com, May 21, 2003 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32698

Additionally, security chiefs on both sides of the Atlantic repeatedly turned down the chance to acquire a vast intelligence database on Osama bin Laden and more than 200 leading members of his al-Qaeda terrorist network in the years leading up to the 9/11 attacks:

"Resentful west spurned Sudan's key terror files," David Rose, Observer (U.K.), September 30, 2001 http://www.observer.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-560624,00.html

Moreover, on October 30 and 31, 2001, two French news agencies broke stunning news. French daily Le Figaro (France's equivalent to the New York Times; a highly respected French newspaper that is conservative in its political bent) and Radio France International (another highly regarded French news-gathering outlet) reported that from July 4 to 14, 2001, while receiving treatment for a chronic kidney infection in an American hospital in Dubai (of the United Arab Emirates), Osama bin Laden met with CIA station chief Larry Mitchell. This occured two months before the 9/11 attacks, and at a time when there was a $5 million reward for information leading to the arrest of Osama (who was eligible for execution under U.S. law for two U.S. embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole--and who had been officially sought for arrest by the U.S. government ever since he had been named as a co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing). Witnesses say the al-Qaeda leader was also visited before leaving the hospital by members of his family and various Saudi and Emirate VIPs, including then Chief of Saudi Intelligence, Prince Turki al Faisal bin. The reports were later officially denied by the CIA and the American Hospital of Dubai. (Interestingly, in the CIA's denial, they also denied that the U.S. government ever had any relationship with Osama bin Laden, which is a provably glaring falsehood.) However, Le Figaro and Radio France International stand by the story, adding that the information was originally gathered by French intelligence, and confirmed by staff at the Dubai Hospital (including at least one member of the hospital administration), as well as by various Arab and Emirate diplomatic sources. Dr. Terry Callaway, the Canadian-trained specialist in charge of the famous urology department at the American Hospital of Dubai (who is believed to have treated Osama on this and two previous occasions in Dubai) refused on repeated occations to answer any questions about Osama bin Laden.

"La CIA aurait rencontré Ben Laden en juillet," Alexandra Richard, Le Figaro, October 30, 2001 http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/lefigaro_fr.htm

"Ben Laden a reçu un agent de la CIA à Dubaï," Richard Labeviere, Radio France Internationale (RFI), October 31, 2001 http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=4633;sta rt=0

"Ben Laden et la CIA: les détails de la rencontre," Richard Labeviere, Radio France Internationale (RFI), November 1, 2001 http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=4633;sta rt=0

"Ben Laden a été soigné en juillet à l'hôpital américain de Dubaï (presse)," Agence France-Presse (AFP), October 31, 2001 http://www.afp.com/ext/francais/compuserve/der/011031025142.8ryyfvvb.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamainhospital.html

"CIA agent 'met Bin Laden in July'," Toby Rose, Evening Standard, October 31, 2001 http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=470280&in_review_text_id=424130
http://propagandamatrix.com/cia_agent_met_bin_laden_in_july.html

The below three news-sites all have the same October 31, 2001 Agence France-Presse (AFP) article but with different titles:

"Bin Laden treated for kidney problem in Dubai, claims report" http://web.archive.org/web/20011217224938/http://www.smh.com.au/news/0110/31/world/world105.html
http://old.smh.com.au/news/0110/31/world/world105.html

"Bin Laden underwent treatment in July at Dubai American Hospital: reports" http://sg.news.yahoo.com/011031/1/1ml07.html

"Bin Laden underwent treatment in Dubai"
http://web.archive.org/web/20011107011149/http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/2001/10/31/FFXTISZYFTC.html

"Bin Laden 'met CIA agent before terror attacks'," Ananova, October 31, 2001 http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_437828.html

"Osama bin Laden Contacted CIA Shortly Before Terrorist Attacks," Alexei Bogomolov, Pravda, October 31, 2001 http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/10/31/19716.html
http://pravda.ru/main/2001/10/31/33259.html

"Report: bin Laden treated at US hospital," Elizabeth Bryant, United Press International (UPI), October 31, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011101001905/http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/default-20011031112818.htm
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Report%20bin%20Laden%20treated%20at%20US%20hospita l%20--%20The%20Washington%20Times.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/10/31/114942.shtml

"Ailing bin Laden 'Treated Secretly for Kidney Disease'," Adam Sage, Times (U.K.), November 1, 2001 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,63-132860,00.html

"CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July--French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital," Anthony Sampson, Guardian (U.K.), November 1, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html

"Ben Laden a été soigné en juillet à Dubaï," Les Nouvelles-Calédoniennes, November 1, 2001 http://www.nouvelles-caledoniennes.nc/webpress4/Articles/20011101/A20175.asp

The below CBS News article and the article folling it are about a different event where Osama bin Laden was given kidney dialysis treatment in a military hospital in Rawalpindi, Pakistan on September 10, 2001:

"Hospital Worker: I Saw Osama--Accused Terrorist Said To Have Had Dialysis On Sept. 10," CBS News, January 28, 2002 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml

"Bin Laden had kidney dialysis in Pakistan: report," Agence France-Presse (AFP), January 29, 2002
http://web.archive.org/web/20021020025949/http://www.inq7.net/brk/2002/jan/29/brkafp_7-1.htm

Below is the transcript of the January 28, 2002 CBS Evening News broadcast done on the above January 28, 2002 CBS News article about Osama bin Laden having been given kidney dialysis treatment in a military hospital in Rawalpindi, Pakistan on September 10, 2001:

"Bin Laden Whereabouts Before 9/11," Dan Rather and Barry Petersen, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, January 28, 2002 http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CBS203A.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20030621005921/http://www.complete911timeline.org/2002/cbs012802.html
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/cbs012802.html

For more on Osama bin Laden's hospital stays with U.S. government knowledge and approval, see the below article:

"Where was Osama bin Laden on 9/11?--Bush Administration knew the Whereabouts of Osama," Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa, Centre for Research on Globalisation, November 16, 2003 http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO311A.html

In continuation of this U.S. government policy of protecting their supposed "enemies" ("enemies" which nevertheless provide an extremely convenient pretext--à la Pearl Harbor and Operation Northwoods, etc.--for the U.S. government usurping ever more power and control), only dirt-poor Afghanistan goat-herders were taken to Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be publicly tortured in order to desensitize Americans to the torture that the globalists have planned for them. But the cream of the crop of the Taliban and al-Qaeda leadership in Afghanistan were given the royal treatment by the U.S. government for a job well-done:

"Transcript: Jane Wallace Interviews Seymour Hersh," PBS NOW, February 21, 2003 http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html

"The Getaway--Questions surround a secret Pakistani airlift," Seymour M. Hersh, New Yorker, issue of January 28, 2002, posted January 21, 2002 http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?020128fa_FACT

"US helped Taliban to safety, magazine claims," Oliver Burkeman, Guardian (U.K.), January 21, 2002 http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,636708,00.html

"US 'let Taleban men escape'," Times (U.K.), January 21, 2002 http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/uslettalebanmenescapethetimes.html

"Did US Allow Pakistan To Quietly Evacuate Soldiers?," a Chalomumbai correspondent, Mid-Day Multimedia Ltd, November 25, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20011130105330/http://in.news.yahoo.com/011124/57/19g2e.html
http://www.rense.com/general17/quiet.htm

"U.S. allowed Pakistan to evacuate fighters?," The Hindu, November 23, 2001 http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2001/11/25/stories/03250000.htm

"The 'airlift of evil'," Michael Moran, MSNBC, November 29, 2001 http://www.msnbc.com/news/664935.asp

Nothing but continued innuendoes and bullshit links from you guys.

Talking loud but saying nothing.

"creating more terrorists?"...I'm sure that wimps like you know more about that than vets like John Murtha...and my father and myself...and the countless other vets and active duty military speaking out against the fiasco in Iraq...


You can stop right at "John Murtha and my father", popeye.