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islandmix
07-26-2015, 10:17 PM
Just curious if its ever happened in the ts porn industry

also please refrain from starting rumors in this thread if it does happen I had nothing to do with it (Hi mods)

sukumvit boy
07-26-2015, 10:26 PM
Ask Christian , he would probably know

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 02:01 AM
why do you care? how on earth does that matter to you as a porn consumer? what a strange, trolling, nonsense question

MrFanti
07-27-2015, 02:45 AM
why do you care? how on earth does that matter to you as a porn consumer? what a strange, trolling, nonsense question

I'm not one to judge...
But in defense of the OP, there are some TS Porn stars who do the Eros, Backpage, etc stuff...Perhaps he was thinking of indulging there...

islandmix
07-27-2015, 02:45 AM
why do you care? how on earth does that matter to you as a porn consumer? what a strange, trolling, nonsense question

It was just out of curiousity and im surprised you would take something like hiv/aids as nonsense/trolling really says alot about you

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 02:49 AM
I'm not one to judge...
But in defense of the OP, there are some TS Porn stars who do the Eros, Backpage, etc stuff...

and you think anyone is going to out them on a public forum? to complete strangers with fake names and fake pictures of themselves? that seems naive to me.

islandmix
07-27-2015, 02:50 AM
it was just a yes or no question wasnt looking for any names being called or anything. If i cant even ask a simple question ill stay off this part of the board.

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 02:51 AM
It was just out of curiousity and im surprised you would take something like hiv/aids as nonsense/trolling really says alot about you

and this post is even dumber than your first post. it says absolutely nothing about me as you don't know me nor will you ever. You came here to troll for information on something that means absolutely nothing to you. Stop now and move on.

MrFanti
07-27-2015, 03:07 AM
and you think anyone is going to out them on a public forum? to complete strangers with fake names and fake pictures of themselves? that seems naive to me.

No I do not expect that.
Apologies for being naive...No more comments from me here.

Instrumental
07-27-2015, 03:13 AM
That is an extremely defensive response to a seemingly innocuous question. Perhaps he's just curious about the history of the industry. That's not unreasonable or indicative of someone trying to troll.

joebadass
07-27-2015, 04:24 AM
Im sure in any sex trade there must have been atleast one time

joebadass
07-27-2015, 04:25 AM
Its gotta be its a touchy subject for people in the industry

lifeisfiction
07-27-2015, 04:47 AM
Its not a trolling question and its a fair question. It happen in the past, however it is something of extremely uncommon. There are a lot of precautions that create barriers were it is very very difficult for HIV to be contracted during a shoot. Of course we are talking about US precautions and we are referring to Main porn and trans porn. Gay porn has had different approach. We leave that for a different day. I will not saw its impossible, but you have a better chance of winning the lottery and getting struck by lighting. In addition, it does not preclude individuals who have contracted it in there private life from whatever activities they are engaged in.

How the testing works, it is designed to prevent those who contracted HIV from spreading it those how do not have it especially on set.

I am surprise of Christian's response, he is very well informed about the safety in the industry and people really respect his knowledge of the testing procedure and protocols. Maybe he is just having a bad day.

It's a question that will continue to be asked of the porn industry. I remember when transgender porn was chided for even trying to show bareback sex and the industry was just split on it. I mean it was pretty bad. It's nice to see some of that change. Still condoms vs no condoms will be a dispute that will continue on. Look at California.

natina
07-27-2015, 06:25 AM
there were a few

http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Dead_Porn_Stars

http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/actor/morelle-dekeigh-4616/

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=mdekeigh/gender=m/morelle-dekeigh.htm

http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Dead_Porn_Stars

http://paparotsy.tripod.com/id4.html

http://lukeford.com/

when someone who is in the sex industry, porn, street walking or escorting dies from HIV/AIDS or is still working with HIV/AIDS ,many in the LGBT community don't want to talk about it now.


Im sure in any sex trade there must have been atleast one time

natina
07-27-2015, 06:37 AM
http://www.queerty.com/24-year-old-former-porn-star-with-aids-films-sobering-video-from-his-hospital-bed-20140326

natina
07-27-2015, 06:46 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STDs_in_the_porn_industry

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 07:09 AM
natina you realize not a single one of your posts has anything at all to do with TS porn stars who contracted HIV within the porn industry. 0.0

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 07:11 AM
as far as I know or can recall, there has never been a single case of a TS performer contracting HIV on a porn set in the history of the adult industry. 0.0

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 07:12 AM
you guys are right. I answered the posters original question above. I assumed that he wanted to know which TS porn girls have HIV, which is a completely different question & answer. my apologies.

lifeisfiction
07-27-2015, 07:18 AM
There is one I heard about, but I will say it was in Brazil and it was rumored. The pornstar committed suicide upon diagnosis. The rumor was she contracted from the scene in my girlfriends cock 2. I never heard it confirmed, but it is only rumor. I don't know if anyone heard anything else. That's about it.

youngblood61
07-27-2015, 10:49 AM
No one has a better knowledge of this industry then CXXX.

BLKGSXR
07-27-2015, 12:54 PM
A few girls have dodged the bullet! some male talents tested positive after testing negative...ultimately this can happen to anyone...Just know whom you are having sexual relations with! and get tested! #PeekyMcWatchMeFuck

lifeisfiction
07-27-2015, 04:39 PM
Why has anyone asked Grooby, Wendy Williams and few others. There are a few people here as well that knows. If you checked the old threads there has been discussions on this before. There are some really solid people that would be sure to answer this questions.

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 06:36 PM
I just did answer the question. 0.0 TS girls have ever contracted HIV on a set ever in the history of porn.

lifeisfiction
07-27-2015, 06:42 PM
I was referring to testing in the industry. Not many people are aware of how it works. Plus there are still a lot of scenes that use condoms as well. It's good for people to get an idea of what happens in terms of testing in the Porn Industry. It is excellent against preventing HIV. Lack of information or misinformation ends up leading to situations like LA County.

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 06:52 PM
what does that have to do with the OP question? and how in the world is it good for people to know about our testing protocols? Again, what possible difference could it make to fans? "situation like LA county" - what does that even mean?

lifeisfiction
07-27-2015, 07:02 PM
There are people who have misconceptions about the adult industry. The OP was just asking if it had ever happen. It's a good chance the OP may not understand how testing works. I refer to LA County, because of the push by many people to have condom only scenes. If people where more aware of what happened it would have never came to what it did.

I think its good and helps people understand that this being done in a different environment then what some have made it seem. That safe sex is a concern in the adult industry. I feel it could be beneficial, but I guess you might disagree.

christianxxx
07-27-2015, 07:08 PM
in LA county there is a push by ONE ORGANIZATION LED BY ONE MAN - AHF and Michael Weinstein who want condom only scenes. This has failed and everyone is still shooting non-condom scenes. Only a few companies bent to his nonsense/CAL-OSHA bullshit.

I don't think talking about the inner workings of how porno is made makes a single bit of difference to civilians or porn consumers at all.

lifeisfiction
07-27-2015, 07:13 PM
I disagree, its like in any industry information helps breakdown misunderstandings. People will always ask, there are plenty of threads on this forum about the porn industry and that it speaks volumes to people general curiosity.

Even still, it takes politicians to pass a law. Politicians are elected by people and people influence how politicians vote.

Stavros
07-28-2015, 01:01 AM
There are people who have misconceptions about the adult industry. The OP was just asking if it had ever happen. It's a good chance the OP may not understand how testing works. I refer to LA County, because of the push by many people to have condom only scenes. If people where more aware of what happened it would have never came to what it did.

I think its good and helps people understand that this being done in a different environment then what some have made it seem. That safe sex is a concern in the adult industry. I feel it could be beneficial, but I guess you might disagree.

The problem with this thread is that the OP did not think through the question he asked -even in the dismal 1980s when HIV/AIDS was a serious epidemic, it was close to impossible to prove that a porn performer contracted HIV from their work, as if they had no other sexual relations, no intravenous drug habits, no blood transfusions or any other modes of becoming HIV+. These days, if a person A claims to have been infected by a person B that claim is worth nothing without a considerable degree of intrusive investigation into the sexual behaviour of both A and B and the other people they have had sexual relations with, in or out of the film industry. The assumption that porn performers are more vulnerable to infection than anyone else is plain stupid.

iagodelgado
07-28-2015, 01:51 AM
Your reply has nothing to do with the title of the thread, which was not about TS porn stars who contracted HIV within the porn industry. The thread title is 'has there ever been an HIV outbreak in the industry?" This is a simple and straightforward question.

I am aware of two.

The first was in May 2004. A male actor contracted HIV, reputedly from a bareback scene in Brazil with a transgender actress. I cannot verify the accuracy of this.

Then he returned to the USA and infected a number of females, three or four from memory. All shooting in the porn industry shut down for about a month as AIM tried to work out exactly who had been shagging whom.

In a totally separate incident at exactly the same time, a transgender actress tested positive. She appeared in a Joanna Jet movie, but the two stars she appeared with both tested negative.

There was a further outbreak a few years later, but my knowledge of that is vague. AIM was being hacked for HIV test details, and that was the driver for flushing it down the toilet.

lifeisfiction
07-28-2015, 02:25 AM
Your reply has nothing to do with the title of the thread, which was not about TS porn stars who contracted HIV within the porn industry. The thread title is 'has there ever been an HIV outbreak in the industry?" This is a simple and straightforward question.

I am aware of two.

The first was in May 2004. A male actor contracted HIV, reputedly from a bareback scene in Brazil with a transgender actress. I cannot verify the accuracy of this.

Then he returned to the USA and infected a number of females, three or four from memory. All shooting in the porn industry shut down for about a month as AIM tried to work out exactly who had been shagging whom.

In a totally separate incident at exactly the same time, a transgender actress tested positive. She appeared in a Joanna Jet movie, but the two stars she appeared with both tested negative.

There was a further outbreak a few years later, but my knowledge of that is vague. AIM was being hacked for HIV test details, and that was the driver for flushing it down the toilet.

He did ask about it happening in ts porn. I only knew of one rumored to happen on set. Has there been incidents in main stream porn, yes. It The two big incidents where Marc Wallace and the other with Darren James. It was pretty messy. Marc Wallace actively hid his results. I remember Ashley Brooke being a mtv special True Life: I am porn star and there was the E True Hollywood thing on it talking about her doing first anal gangbang with her receiving anal creampies and afterwards how she had some bleeding from it. She later was diagnosed with HIV. The second was just as bad as the first one with Darren James.

I remember the media was saying how unsafe the porn industry and some sort of action needed to be taken. People where saying "Just look at all those people having bareback sex, what can you expect." Even though at that time a lot of porn was still condom porn, people had a lot of misconceptions about it.

It shaped the porn industry today from those incidents. Let's forget talking about what Mr. Marcus did, shessh. Still the industry has done pretty good job in policing itself. That cannot be denied.

christianxxx
07-28-2015, 02:49 AM
Marc Wallice gave 6 female performers HIV in 1999-2000 I can not remember the exact year
Darren James gave 4 female performers HIV in 2004 after contracting it in Brazil
Cameron Reid tested positive in 2011
Sofia Delgado, Cameron Bay, and her boyfriend Rod Daily tested positive in 2013
TJ Cummings tested positive in 2013

but again, none of those performers were TS nor has a TS ever been outed or documented as being positive ever in the industry. There are many rumors, innuendos, and whispers, but absolutely no documented, public TS actresses that have TESTED positive.

lifeisfiction
07-28-2015, 03:04 AM
Just to verify are you saying that no ts actress has ever been documented having HIV, or there has been evidence of HIV being contracted on set?

christianxxx
07-28-2015, 07:39 AM
is that a serious question?

Stavros
07-28-2015, 11:48 AM
Your reply has nothing to do with the title of the thread, which was not about TS porn stars who contracted HIV within the porn industry. The thread title is 'has there ever been an HIV outbreak in the industry?" This is a simple and straightforward question.

I am aware of two.

The first was in May 2004. A male actor contracted HIV, reputedly from a bareback scene in Brazil with a transgender actress. I cannot verify the accuracy of this.

Then he returned to the USA and infected a number of females, three or four from memory. All shooting in the porn industry shut down for about a month as AIM tried to work out exactly who had been shagging whom.

In a totally separate incident at exactly the same time, a transgender actress tested positive. She appeared in a Joanna Jet movie, but the two stars she appeared with both tested negative.

There was a further outbreak a few years later, but my knowledge of that is vague. AIM was being hacked for HIV test details, and that was the driver for flushing it down the toilet.

I don't understand the distinction you are trying to make with "an HIV outbreak in the industry". "In the industry" seems to implicate the people who book the studio, the camera operator(s), the janitor in the building, etc -and cannot avoid the performers.

In every case you have to prove that someone became HIV+ because of a scene they shot in a film, good luck with that. If you do not know the precise sexual history of all the people involved, how can you be sure you know that A infected B when either A or B -or both- may have become HIV+ from another person? And that is to limit the spread of infection to sexual intercourse rather than some other means.
Ask yourself how many accusations or assumptions would stand up in a court of law, and take it from there.

lifeisfiction
07-28-2015, 03:51 PM
is that a serious question?

Yes, there have been several ts who has had HIV. Easiest that comes to mind is Bianca Biaggi and there are few more. Your statement is way too board. Even you have admitted there are ts porn performers have retired due to it. Of course that is something happens in their private life so I would not call it something that was due to their time in porn. Saying that there is no ts porn actress that ever having HIV is a little too board. Having contracted HIV on set, I don't think anyone has heard it happening.

Statically the transgender community has been the highest risk in HIV over the past several years.

christianxxx
07-28-2015, 05:07 PM
you are asking and answering your own question

of course there are dozens of TS actresses that have contracted HIV, but on set? 0.0
that have tested positive for HIV at our clinics? I don't know of any, but if so its not public knowledge.

lifeisfiction
07-28-2015, 05:19 PM
you are asking and answering your own question

of course there are dozens of TS actresses that have contracted HIV, but on set? 0.0
that have tested positive for HIV at our clinics? I don't know of any, but if so its not public knowledge.

And we are on the same page, I have only heard rumors. I am not saying it could not have happen, however there is no evidence it ever happened to the public knowledge. Especially in the modern era of porn where testing for HIV is more effective and integrated then when porn first started.

I agree, I will never say it is without risk it would be silly of me, but the porn industry uses a more aggressive method for ensuring on set performances are safe from HIV in the United States. Can't say that about everywhere.

GroobySteven
07-29-2015, 04:28 AM
John Stagliano claimed to have contracted HIV through bareback sex with a transsexual in Brazil, although not on a specific shoot.

I know of multiple Brazilian models we have worked with over the years who have contracted HIV at a later date, some of whom we've continued to shoot with as solo models.
I know of multiple Thai models who have HIV, whom we continue to work with as solo models.
I know of a handful of US models who have HIV, whom we continue to work with as solo models.

I don't believe any of these caught them on a porn shoot but given the amount of partners many performers have, and the lack of testing in some countries (or poor testing) then it's not impossible, just the probability is it happened elsewhere.

One TS model was tested positive for HIV before a porn shoot quite a few years ago.

lifeisfiction
07-29-2015, 05:18 AM
John Stagliano claimed to have contracted HIV through bareback sex with a transsexual in Brazil, although not on a specific shoot.

I know of multiple Brazilian models we have worked with over the years who have contracted HIV at a later date, some of whom we've continued to shoot with as solo models.
I know of multiple Thai models who have HIV, whom we continue to work with as solo models.
I know of a handful of US models who have HIV, whom we continue to work with as solo models.

I don't believe any of these caught them on a porn shoot but given the amount of partners many performers have, and the lack of testing in some countries (or poor testing) then it's not impossible, just the probability is it happened elsewhere.

One TS model was tested positive for HIV before a porn shoot quite a few years ago.

I was hoping you would reply to this thread.

werwt22
07-29-2015, 07:35 AM
stop taking offense Christian. I sense no ill will from the OP or his support. Some people like to indulge in the inner-workings of what they love. Literally just read another thread, which may have been the catalyst to where this post came from, where the guy let a famous star bust in his mouth and regretted the decision after.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?94506-Girls-help-me-assess-my-risk

I understand your take. "Enjoy The Porn...Why do you care? We test." There's just this stigma attached to the porn industry period in relation to STD's, and I just feel its better to take the opportunity to educate some, than to "take it personal."

dreamon
07-29-2015, 09:30 PM
The porn industry actually has a lower rate of incidence of HIV than the general populace.

natina
07-30-2015, 01:03 AM
Dana Douglas,Moreille de keigh,jennifer,cassandra
http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Dana_Douglas

natina
07-30-2015, 01:31 AM
http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Dead_Porn_Stars

Stavros
07-30-2015, 08:38 AM
Dana Douglas,Moreille de keigh,jennifer,cassandra
http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Dana_Douglas

a) Dana Douglas died from a gunshot wound to the chest in 1998;

b) you have not offered any evidence to prove that Dana Douglas became HIV+ as a direct consequence of working in 'the industry', which is what this thread is about.

http://who.famousfix.com/tpx_39597/dana-douglas/details

NRT
08-11-2015, 01:39 AM
Does anyone know if Mr Marcus is back in the industry, making porn since he was jailed? Is there a rule/law which prohibits that?