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[melody mayheim]

Some men do you dirty and you just dont think right. You become crazy n do anything to make them feel the pain you are feeling. Ive downright exposed guys secret to family n friends...why consider their feelings? Do they think of urs? Guys will say anything to get laid. Its pathetic. But ultimately thats not a good idea..its not safe. People will do everything to break their family...but will also do anything to keep it. I watch the investigation discovery channel! People are CRAZY! Point is why cant people just be upfront about who they are n what they want??? There's no reason to bullshit me...there's millions of fish in the sea ;)

[giovanni_hotel]

Some of the greatest homophobia in this country is directed towards men attracted to TS.
Most folks just can't accept or understand how a 'straight' man can be into both GGs and TGs.

Outing someone to be vindictive is just immature IMO. If a guy isn't living his life out to the world, how is screwing his just to prove a point helping anyone, except to make the TS feel good about herself??

If a guy treats you like only a fuck, treat him in kind as only a trick.
Don't put your emotions out there for a guy who's only willing to see you behind closed doors.

What TS don't understand is when they start outing men, it confirms most of our worst fears about TS; they're all angry, insane and beyond crazy. Approach at your own risk.

BTW saying a guy did you dirty is relative. You'd have to give me general details before I could judge whether or not some dude deserved to be outed.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Some of the greatest homophobia in this country is directed towards men attracted to TS.
Most folks just can't accept or understand how a 'straight' man can be into both GGs and TGs.

Outing someone to be vindictive is just immature IMO. If a guy isn't living his life out to the world, how is screwing his just to prove a point helping anyone, except to make the TS feel good about herself??

If a guy treats you like only a fuck, treat him in kind as only a trick.
Don't put your emotions out there for a guy who's only willing to see you behind closed doors.

What TS don't understand is when they start outing men, it confirms most of our worst fears about TS; they're all angry, insane and beyond crazy. Approach at your own risk.

BTW saying a guy did you dirty is relative. You'd have to give me general details before I could judge whether or not some dude deserved to be outed.
Agreed.
If someone wants a private life, that's their choice. If you try to ruin their lives, don't be surprised if someone retaliates. That's not good and it's not safe. What does liking TS have to do with breaking your family.

Also, a lot of people say they want you to be straight up when they know they can't handle the straight up truth.

[melody mayheim]

I'm saying Ive done it before..but completely agree its not right. I dont have to deal with it. If someone wants to live discreetly for the rest of their life..thats there business.. But I also feel that if your not open or comfortable in ur own skin...then maybe you shouldnt get involved with someone n mess with their feelings n emotions. Go watch porn. Now if i know ur situation n we have an agreement..thats ok...but to portray someone ur not just to get laid is ridiculous. I feel most men will say n do anything to get laid. Ive had guys willing to drive hours..fly states away just to visit. Who does that? I always get labeled crazy..bitch..etc etc i think all women do...but I only treat people the way they treat me. Real talk.

[martin48]

"Point is why cant people just be upfront about who they are n what they want???"

'cos we are driven by all sorts of desires that family and society judges as deviant. Or we feel that they might judge us that way.
Were you totally open about your desires and needs throughout your life? I suspect not - very few of us are.

Be hard on the bastards but not on the whole of humankind.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I'm saying Ive done it before..but completely agree its not right. I dont have to deal with it. If someone wants to live discreetly for the rest of their life..thats there business.. But I also feel that if your not open or comfortable in ur own skin...then maybe you shouldnt get involved with someone n mess with their feelings n emotions. Go watch porn. Now if i know ur situation n we have an agreement..thats ok...but to portray someone ur not just to get laid is ridiculous. I feel most men will say n do anything to get laid. Ive had guys willing to drive hours..fly states away just to visit. Who does that? I always get labeled crazy..bitch..etc etc i think all women do...but I only treat people the way they treat me. Real talk.

Are these dudes people you date or are you escorting? How are you meeting so many out of town dudes? You're right, flying states away and driving hours is stupid, but most guys won't do that shit, especially fly. And treating someone like a secret isn't the same as treating someone by outing them, so the labels are accurate with that kinda mess.

And guys say the things they say to women because they know it'll work. Guys take advice from other guys on how to get laid, not advice from women, because that shit gets you nowhere. Guys would be up front if they could, but we have to tap dance and bullshit for a little before we get anywhere.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

"Point is why cant people just be upfront about who they are n what they want???"

'cos we are driven by all sorts of desires that family and society judges as deviant. Or we feel that they might judge us that way.
Were you totally open about your desires and needs throughout your life? I suspect not - very few of us are.

Be hard on the bastards but not on the whole of humankind.

Nobody is.

[lifeisfiction]

So when do you mean kept a secret. I must ask in terms of what. Do you mean that they don't tell all their friends and family or they introduce to some of their friends and family. Some times it used as blanket statement. I have some family members that would never approve. They have treated me well, but then again I don't tell them my business anyways. Then are some who would be fine.

Then what is the circumstances of the relationship. If you are my shag buddy to be honest I am not introducing my shag buddy to my family or friends does not matter if they are ts or gg. I am not one to talk about my sex life. I can see it now, introducing two chicks that I am having threesomes with to my parents. Not going to happen. Never had problems with it, because I am not trying to meet their friends and family as well.

If the guy has you as the side chick, it doesn't matter if you are ts and gg, they don't want their business to be out there. If you have agreed to be the side chick, well remember, you can never be number one. That is why you are the mistress. You obligation for such an arrangement is secrecy. If one doesn't like the whole secrecy its not best for them.

If it's and escort relationship then anonymity is an obligation.

Not saying people can't be shady, but I would need more details about the situation.

[Jericho]

There might be millions of fish in the sea...but most of them are old haddock.
Use a bit of bullshit as bait, you might just catch a marlin! :shrug
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[Lester316]

Some men do you dirty and you just dont think right. You become crazy n do anything to make them feel the pain you are feeling. Ive downright exposed guys secret to family n friends...why consider their feelings? Do they think of urs? Guys will say anything to get laid. Its pathetic. But ultimately thats not a good idea..its not safe. People will do everything to break their family...but will also do anything to keep it. I watch the investigation discovery channel! People are CRAZY! Point is why cant people just be upfront about who they are n what they want??? There's no reason to bullshit me...there's millions of fish in the sea ;)

To point out your own words at the start: 'Some men'. And at the end 'there's millions of fish in the sea'. Both of these are very true. Some men may have hurt you, lied to you and let you down - but there are millions of fish in the sea. This is not a fact exclusive to relationships involving a TS girl but all people. The best advice anyone can give you is if it doesn't work out because the other person didn't do right by you is your own, move on there are plenty more people out there. And 'outing' someone's secret and then posting about it because you were upset is only going to reduce those numbers by making you look bad anyhow.

[melody mayheim]

I think at some point you should realize that we are all constantly being labeled n judged. Just accept who u are n be happy..To me if you are constantly worried about what others think or say..you are not a man. Of course im not talking about young guys..im talking guys who are grown enough to know better.

[melody mayheim]

Ive escorted before but not really my thing. To me: Im dating them..To them: theyre saying were dating but clearly its about sex...so I should just start charging them all. Ive met guys from social media.. clubs ..dating sites..

[melody mayheim]

When i say secret...I mean dont introduce me to friends n family. To me its cowardly. I would never ever be ashamed of who im dating or allow others to have input on who i date. Do ur family n friends ask permission to date their partners? Im very close to my family n friends n of course wana meet my partners people in his life.

[Lester316]

I think at some point you should realize that we are all constantly being labeled n judged. Just accept who u are n be happy..To me if you are constantly worried about what others think or say..you are not a man. Of course im not talking about young guys..im talking guys who are grown enough to know better.

I don't think anyone here is arguing about how people are constantly labelled and judged, especially TS girls. Those of us that frequent the forum understand how difficult society is and it's epic slowness to move with the times when it comes to accepting diverse tastes in sexuality (or at least I hope most of us do). I would just hope that considering your own experience and how you may have had to deal with a lack of acceptance you wouldn't seem to judge men as a group based on some bad experiences.

It is human nature to worry about what others think whether someone is young and immature or older and more experienced. We live now in a world where people's actions and decisions are constantly debated, discussed and judged in all forms of media, on twitter or facebook or online in forums like this. You said there are plenty more fish in the sea, that is the right attitude but you got to that in your OP after stating you exposed someone after they upset you. If you want people to be more mature, honest and accepting you have to do the same things yourself. If you weren't treated how you should have been in a relationship move on with grace and find someone who appreciates you don't dwell on the bad experiences.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I don't think anyone here is arguing about how people are constantly labelled and judged, especially TS girls. Those of us that frequent the forum understand how difficult society is and it's epic slowness to move with the times when it comes to accepting diverse tastes in sexuality (or at least I hope most of us do). I would just hope that considering your own experience and how you may have had to deal with a lack of acceptance you wouldn't seem to judge men as a group based on some bad experiences.

It is human nature to worry about what others think whether someone is young and immature or older and more experienced. We live now in a world where people's actions and decisions are constantly debated, discussed and judged in all forms of media, on twitter or facebook or online in forums like this. You said there are plenty more fish in the sea, that is the right attitude but you got to that in your OP after stating you exposed someone after they upset you. If you want people to be more mature, honest and accepting you have to do the same things yourself. If you weren't treated how you should have been in a relationship move on with grace and find someone who appreciates you don't dwell on the bad experiences.

Sounds very much like caring what someone else thought.

[lifeisfiction]

Thank you Melody. If a person is dating you will eventually meet their family depending on serious it the relationship has become. Not making excuses, there are some guys would keep woman on the side regardless of her being ts or gg in order to get laid. Even further some will do it because they want to keep it a secret because of you being transgender.

Meeting family is never cut and dry. For myself and siblings we never introduced someone unless we felt it could be serious. I mean I don't even know 10% of the people my family dated. If it becomes serious then its a meet will happen. And trust me, no family will have everyone like someone that a person is dating.

I know what you are saying and I can't blame you for feeling that all person is saying is just to get in your panties. Doesn't mean the avenues of where you are meeting people will change some men from only getting in your panties.

Relationships take time, people have to be open and up front. I don't know you past circumstances, but it sounds like you got the short end of the stick at some point and even retaliated in not the best manner. I hope you do find someone who will appreciate you and you can enjoy.

(PS stay away from those cheating me, if you are looking for a relationship it will bring nothing but heartache.)

[gaysian71]

Lol, some of the replies to this thread are very entertaining. I guess a lot of guys find it unfair if they fuck over their trans girlfriend and then she outs them.

But Melody is right. You can't use someone for your own sexual pleasure. Especially if you are leading them on as if they are something more than that and then get upset when they out you. That's just not the way relationships work.

If you just want to fuck, there are plenty of trans women out there who will take your money and give you a good time.

Don't forget, trans men and women are people too.

[melody mayheim]

I have given numerous men chances to prove they are different. Men talk about how difficult it must be living the trans life but none step up to the plate n stick up for them. But quick to jump in bed with them behind closed doors. Ultimately us trans people are the ones actually living the life. You have no idea?
Well idk how old n who u r but im 31yrs old n i know people talk. If it werent me being a tranny..itd be beacause of my weight or my race. Im open. Comfortable in my skin. Secure with who i am. I dont give a shit what anyone thinks or says especially if ur not paying my bills. I do my own thing n id be damned if someone determines my happiness. Im a hairstylist. Nursing assistant. Performer. Ive done porn. I do it all. And i still have my family n friends who support me.

[melody mayheim]

Omg EXACTLY! gaysian71!! ;)

[lifeisfiction]

I have given numerous men chances to prove they are different. Men talk about how difficult it must be living the trans life but none step up to the plate n stick up for them. But quick to jump in bed with them behind closed doors. Ultimately us trans people are the ones actually living the life. You have no idea?
Well idk how old n who u r but im 31yrs old n i know people talk. If it werent me being a tranny..itd be beacause of my weight or my race. Im open. Comfortable in my skin. Secure with who i am. I dont give a shit what anyone thinks or says especially if ur not paying my bills. I do my own thing n id be damned if someone determines my happiness. Im a hairstylist. Nursing assistant. Performer. Ive done porn. I do it all. And i still have my family n friends who support me.

You just need a man who appreciates and loves you for who you are and that is not easy for anyone to find a special someone. I really do hope you find him. It sometimes feels like someone else found them first, lol.

[melody mayheim]

Then when you wana charge them...they get offended n butthurt...dont like it..go elsewhere...ur not gona use me for my body n I get shit in return...Ooo u can get laid? Then bye. These past 3 yrs ive learned why so many ts girls turn to escorting.

[melody mayheim]

Im sure I will but I have kissed way too many frogs in the past 3 yrs...being in a gay relationship was soooo much easier...

[lifeisfiction]

You shouldn't have to be kissing frogs. I need take you some place where there are princes. Take a road trip some place else. It seems PA, is letting you down.

Sadly the dating world is harder than it looks, unless you want to settle from something less than good. That's my personal experience. Like my friends tell me it will change before you know it.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Lol, some of the replies to this thread are very entertaining. I guess a lot of guys find it unfair if they fuck over their trans girlfriend and then she outs them.

But Melody is right. You can't use someone for your own sexual pleasure. Especially if you are leading them on as if they are something more than that and then get upset when they out you. That's just not the way relationships work.

If you just want to fuck, there are plenty of trans women out there who will take your money and give you a good time.

Don't forget, trans men and women are people too.

What exactly qualifies as fucking over? And the trans girls outing dudes for no reason other than fame or they're pissed off for a reason that may not even be a good one. It's not like every case of being outed is the girl getting fucked over.

[gaysian71]

Omg EXACTLY! gaysian71!! ;)

I'm no expert when it comes to dating a trans woman. But I have had two long term relationships. And the only thing both of them ever wanted was to be treated like a woman.

I introduced both of them to my family as "My girlfriend". Not "My trans girlfriend". Both of them really appreciated that. And I got the biggest hugs and kisses from both of them after the first meeting. The good news was that my family got along with them great, and I never had any problems. But to this day I don't know if anyone in my family had any problems with my relationships. And I don't reall care to know.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I have given numerous men chances to prove they are different. Men talk about how difficult it must be living the trans life but none step up to the plate n stick up for them. But quick to jump in bed with them behind closed doors. Ultimately us trans people are the ones actually living the life. You have no idea?
Well idk how old n who u r but im 31yrs old n i know people talk. If it werent me being a tranny..itd be beacause of my weight or my race. Im open. Comfortable in my skin. Secure with who i am. I dont give a shit what anyone thinks or says especially if ur not paying my bills. I do my own thing n id be damned if someone determines my happiness. Im a hairstylist. Nursing assistant. Performer. Ive done porn. I do it all. And i still have my family n friends who support me.

If you have so much going on in your life, why waste any time being bitter and upset? Is it not satisfying enough to just cut the dude off and remember that you have family and friends that care about you?

[melody mayheim]

Im not bitter nor upset towards anyone in particular..thats exactly what i do move on...cuz like i said theres plenty of fish in the sea...dont need to deal with someone insecurities. Fucking over meaning playing games with someones emotions instead of just being upfront n saying all i want is sex.

[melody mayheim]

What girl doesnt wana be loved? Family n friends kind of love is completely different. We all know that. Its just very discouraging to date n lose hope on love...
I think ur just one of these type of men
Thats why ur being defensive...truth hurts...

[Lester316]

Im not bitter nor upset towards anyone in particular..thats exactly what i do move on...cuz like i said theres plenty of fish in the sea...dont need to deal with someone insecurities. Fucking over meaning playing games with someones emotions instead of just being upfront n saying all i want is sex.

I think SanDiegoPervySage's point below was that your earlier comments don't reflect what you have gone on to say since. If you are totally happy, aware that there are plenty of fish in the sea and all that then why come on here and make the OP which sounds 100% the opposite and points out how you basically took revenge in the past.

As I have said before moving on gracefully and finding what makes you happy is the best thing anyone who has experienced a bad relationship can do. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find what you want but don't expect people to agree with your point about doing so if it contains the line: 'Ive downright exposed guys secret to family n friends...why consider their feelings'. It's hard to have sympathy with someone feeling wronged when their response is to hurt other people back.

[gaysian71]

What exactly qualifies as fucking over? And the trans girls outing dudes for no reason other than fame or they're pissed off for a reason that may not even be a good one. It's not like every case of being outed is the girl getting fucked over.

When I say "Fucked over", I mean telling a girl things like you care for them, have feelings for them and give them hope there is a good chance for a long lasting relationship. Then use them for your own sexual gratification and leave them once you are ready to move on to the next one. Or you have a relationship with them and they think it's platonic and you are out there fucking every girl in town. That's pretty much "Fucking over" someone. And the sad news is that just about every trans woman has many stories like that. So, it does not surprise me at all if some girls out the guy that does that to them.

The thing I found amusing about this thread is that every guy who responded claimed to feel bad for Melody but encouraged her to keep her mouth shut so as not to humiliate the guy who fucked her over. That's like telling you to allow another man to punch you in the face, but tell you not to hit him back. You gonna do that? I'll bet not.

[melody mayheim]

Most likely these guys are that exact type of boys I'm so talking about so honestly their opinions dont matter. I agreed n said it wasnt my place to out someone. Ultimately thats not the type of guy i want or need in my life anyways. I want n need a man. If he were a man there would be no such thing as outing him. Cuz he would be completely comfortable with his sexuality. If hes fucking me...he shouldn't be ashamed..point blank...Us ts girls r good enough to screw but not good enough to claim. Im suppose to consider his feelings n respect him but he can walk all over me n im suppose to gracefully walk away like a lady. Get the fuck outta here. Lol maybe its the puerto rican idk but these men are str8 up selfish!!!!

[melody mayheim]

I dont care what anyone says or does...I dont judge the way anyone looks or the way they live...thats ur business but my point is when u involve someone in ur bullshit then u have every right to put them in their place. If u wana live ur life discreetly thats ur business but when u fool around with someones heart is wrong. Selfish. If ur not comfortable...like i said u have a hand.. theres tons of tranny porn!

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Im not bitter nor upset towards anyone in particular..thats exactly what i do move on...cuz like i said theres plenty of fish in the sea...dont need to deal with someone insecurities. Fucking over meaning playing games with someones emotions instead of just being upfront n saying all i want is sex.

Outing someone and then going on about your business isn't "moving on", but ok.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

What girl doesnt wana be loved? Family n friends kind of love is completely different. We all know that. Its just very discouraging to date n lose hope on love...
I think ur just one of these type of men
Thats why ur being defensive...truth hurts...

Guess you figured me out, stranger.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

When I say "Fucked over", I mean telling a girl things like you care for them, have feelings for them and give them hope there is a good chance for a long lasting relationship. Then use them for your own sexual gratification and leave them once you are ready to move on to the next one. Or you have a relationship with them and they think it's platonic and you are out there fucking every girl in town. That's pretty much "Fucking over" someone. And the sad news is that just about every trans woman has many stories like that. So, it does not surprise me at all if some girls out the guy that does that to them.

The thing I found amusing about this thread is that every guy who responded claimed to feel bad for Melody but encouraged her to keep her mouth shut so as not to humiliate the guy who fucked her over. That's like telling you to allow another man to punch you in the face, but tell you not to hit him back. You gonna do that? I'll bet not.

Good, you explained that. But ol' girl wants to throw damn near all men in that category. If there are dudes who will fuck over girls, there are women/TS chicks who are in strictly fuckbuddy relationships and have other fuckbuddies on the side but will still out the guy for whatever reason. And it's not always because they guy fucked them over or wasn't honest.

And hitting someone back is different. That's an in the moment thing that can happen in a split second. Not sitting in the kitchen, plotting your next move.

[melody mayheim]

Yes I have moved on n none of those guys are in my life because I choose to not have them in my life..I just post things that are on my mind n what ive experienced etc etc...just to discuss different topics. I clearly expressed that happened a long time ago...dont mean to get ur panties all in a bunch ;)

[SanDiegoPervySage]

I think SanDiegoPervySage's point below was that your earlier comments don't reflect what you have gone on to say since. If you are totally happy, aware that there are plenty of fish in the sea and all that then why come on here and make the OP which sounds 100% the opposite and points out how you basically took revenge in the past.

As I have said before moving on gracefully and finding what makes you happy is the best thing anyone who has experienced a bad relationship can do. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find what you want but don't expect people to agree with your point about doing so if it contains the line: 'Ive downright exposed guys secret to family n friends...why consider their feelings'. It's hard to have sympathy with someone feeling wronged when their response is to hurt other people back.

Nailed it.

[melody mayheim]

I clearly posted SOME men NOT ALL men dont switch up my words ;)

[Lester316]

When I say "Fucked over", I mean telling a girl things like you care for them, have feelings for them and give them hope there is a good chance for a long lasting relationship. Then use them for your own sexual gratification and leave them once you are ready to move on to the next one. Or you have a relationship with them and they think it's platonic and you are out there fucking every girl in town. That's pretty much "Fucking over" someone. And the sad news is that just about every trans woman has many stories like that. So, it does not surprise me at all if some girls out the guy that does that to them.

The thing I found amusing about this thread is that every guy who responded claimed to feel bad for Melody but encouraged her to keep her mouth shut so as not to humiliate the guy who fucked her over. That's like telling you to allow another man to punch you in the face, but tell you not to hit him back. You gonna do that? I'll bet not.

The thing with this thread is you and Melody seem to take when the guys here bother to respond and comment on how one thing is not good that it means we also condone something else. My point about moving on and 'being the bigger person' doesn't in any way mean that I believe the guys who treated Melody should get away with it in the slightest. It simply means if you want to be better than people who lack morals you don't stoop to their level. I don't care if a guy who fucked her over gets humiliated or not but if Melody wants to prove that she really believes the whole 'plenty more fish in the sea' statement why waste time and breath trying to hurt someone back. Also with your punching in the face analogy my suggestion would be don't let them punch you in the face to start with - I don't spend time with violent guys who might do that much like hopefully considering her experiences Melody won't spend her time with the kind of guy who will screw her over again.


Most likely these guys are that exact type of boys I'm so talking about so honestly their opinions dont matter. I agreed n said it wasnt my place to out someone. Ultimately thats not the type of guy i want or need in my life anyways. I want n need a man. If he were a man there would be no such thing as outing him. Cuz he would be completely comfortable with his sexuality. If hes fucking me...he shouldn't be ashamed..point blank...Us ts girls r good enough to screw but not good enough to claim. Im suppose to consider his feelings n respect him but he can walk all over me n im suppose to gracefully walk away like a lady. Get the fuck outta here. Lol maybe its the puerto rican idk but these men are str8 up selfish!!!!

'Most of these guys'? Sounds like lumping a group of people together again because some have hurt you. Anyhow my point stands as above being graceful and walking away isn't about considering his feelings it's about maintaining your own dignity in spite of what he has done; don't stoop to the level of someone who you know isn't worth your time.

[melody mayheim]

Read again. Switching up my words. Most likely these guys (meaning the guys commenting on this thread, like you)
NOT most of these guys....

[melody mayheim]

Try again :)

[Lester316]

Read again. Switching up my words. Most likely these guys (meaning the guys commenting on this thread, like you)
NOT most of these guys....

I got what you meant the first time. My meaning being that some guys have hurt you in the past and now if other guys like me come on a discussion board and don't seem to 100% agree with your opinion that lumps us all into a group of people who (and I can quote you again if you like): 'are that exact type of boys I'm so talking about so honestly their opinions dont matter'.

You have every right to feel my or other guy's opinions don't matter but when you come to a board that provokes discussion and generalize a group of people and place them all in a group together some of us might well point that out. Also when you come and comment on a board it is a given that not everyone will agree with your opinion; if you don't like that fact unfortunately your only option would be to refrain from making comments in future as I can confirm with 100% certainty that you, I or anyone else will never get everyone to agree with what we think.

I will also add that I am not some 'boy' like others you may have met; aside from the fact I'm most-likely from a different country, from a different ethnic and social background (things which actually are irrelevant but still I'm just saying I'm different) I'm just a man who has opinions and likes to discuss and debate with others. I really can't help the fact that I don't agree with your stance on things, it just happens to be my opinion and whilst it may not matter to you it certainly does to me.

[LI SEAN08]

When I read the first page of this thread it had my blood boiling. I ran into a tranny that I know for a long time who has access to some of my female friends. None of them know my fetish for T gurls. Yesssss. it s only a fetish, and if I like having a good orgasm with them its my business! I can honestly say that if I was purposely outed by a tranny, I would stoop to anything to make her pay dearly for what she did. I promise that shed regret it the rest of her life every time she looked in a mirror

[muggmugg]

The behavior of others is not valid grounds to act immorally. Not everyone is an asshole, but our culture sure produces a lot of them.

[gaysian71]

When I read the first page of this thread it had my blood boiling. I ran into a tranny that I know for a long time who has access to some of my female friends. None of them know my fetish for T gurls. Yesssss. it s only a fetish, and if I like having a good orgasm with them its my business! I can honestly say that if I was purposely outed by a tranny, I would stoop to anything to make her pay dearly for what she did. I promise that shed regret it the rest of her life every time she looked in a mirror

You sound like a perfect candidate for SRS.

[giovanni_hotel]

I might yell and scream, but nothing justifies violence for being outed.
If a bitch is evil, trust that her lifestyle will pay her back eventually.

Karma is real shit and if you do enough dirt on people it eventually comes back to you.

[Jericho]

I promise that shed regret it the rest of her life every time she looked in a mirror

That's pretty fucked up.
Getting outed aint nice, but that response...

[melody mayheim]

Li Sean08 ur a perfect example of a coward. U disgust me.

[melody mayheim]

Ur the type of guy id purposely out...cuz im not scared of you...fetish? No u love tranny dick in ur mouth n ur in denial.

[LI SEAN08]

Im not in denial at all..... Yes I like to suck tranny cock, and it sure turns me on. Benn doing it over 20 yrs. But if som bipolar tranny who likes to be in the middle of drama all the time suddenly decides to send a video or pics she took of me on her phone with out me knowing to someone in mhy private life, ... sorry, she will pay dearly for it!!! Only a coward would let her slide on that!!

[gaysian71]

Im not in denial at all..... Yes I like to suck tranny cock, and it sure turns me on. Benn doing it over 20 yrs. But if som bipolar tranny who likes to be in the middle of drama all the time suddenly decides to send a video or pics she took of me on her phone with out me knowing to someone in mhy private life, ... sorry, she will pay dearly for it!!! Only a coward would let her slide on that!!

Just stick with the escorts and married CD's. You can be on the dl forever.

[SanDiegoPervySage]

Read again. Switching up my words. Most likely these guys (meaning the guys commenting on this thread, like you)
NOT most of these guys....



Even though you said "most guys" in an earlier post, not applying to just the men in the thread.

[MrFanti]

I've had genetic females try and do me dirty. Being an @ss is not limited to males.

[melody mayheim]

No ur a old closet coward who cant face reality or society so u have to hide behind closed doors to be who you truly are. Id like to know how youd win at the end? You beat her ass? No shes still win cuz ur ass would be in jail in newspapers...closet cowards beats his tranny partner for outing her....lmfao! Good luck ;)

[SanDiegoPervySage]

No ur a old closet coward who cant face reality or society so u have to hide behind closed doors to be who you truly are. Id like to know how youd win at the end? You beat her ass? No shes still win cuz ur ass would be in jail in newspapers...closet cowards beats his tranny partner for outing her....lmfao! Good luck ;)

The hell did this shit come from? Pulling random scenarios you wish would happen out of your ass. Gotta give you credit on your imagination though.

[melody mayheim]

Thats for li sean08 aka mr. Tough guy.

[youngblood61]

I've had genetic females try and do me dirty. Being an @ss is not limited to males.Spot on!

[melody mayheim]

Never did I even mention genetic girls. Of course they can be ass'...you guys are just switching up my words n not reading the whole conversations. Pointing fingers. Making excuses. Instead of being an actual man n saying yes im guilty for being a coward. I choose to live my life discreetly because im scared on being judged by society for my attraction of ts girls. So I use them for sex n go then home to my gg gf or wife n kids at home.

[LI SEAN08]

Yes Melody, that is exactly what most of us chasers ONLY want out of u gurls. Just sex. Obviously, you have been let down more than once by dudes u fell for. Get over it!!!

[giovanni_hotel]

More guys than you think out here are willing to date a TS, Melody. Some girls don't realize just how difficult it is to meet a trans-chick you'd actually consider dating.

BTW if you mess with TS chicks enough getting called a faggot is all a part of the game. Nothing to stress about IMO.

[Lester316]

Never did I even mention genetic girls. Of course they can be ass'...you guys are just switching up my words n not reading the whole conversations. Pointing fingers. Making excuses. Instead of being an actual man n saying yes im guilty for being a coward. I choose to live my life discreetly because im scared on being judged by society for my attraction of ts girls. So I use them for sex n go then home to my gg gf or wife n kids at home.


How about you stop acting like a coward though before you start calling out people in the thread. Try admitting that two wrongs don't make a right, that suggesting you'd out a guy who treated you badly is OK when actually it means you are just as shallow as he is.

Instead of insulting the people that bother to reply to the thread you started and comparing people you have never met to guys you had a bad experience with maybe you could try taking on board what others say. Even if you don't agree with them you could be less harsh and more respectful as the tone of your posts gives off an aura of someone who invites people to treat them in a negative way. If you want people to have some sympathy with your position don't get your nose out of joint whenever someone doesn't agree with you 100%.

Otherwise frankly it feels as if you don't want a constructive conversation and instead want to argue and incite anger from idiots (in case people aren't clear I'm suggesting LiSean08 needs to take a chill pill and stop suggesting he'd do physical harm to people).

[LI SEAN08]

Ive been friendly with a beauty for over 11 yrs now and still have great sex with her. I go to clubs and events etc w her all time

[melody mayheim]

Like I said li sean 08...your comments and opinions dont matter so you should just shut the fuck up. I would never ever take advice from some broke closet coward faggot :)

[Lester316]

You could almost be pleased LI SEAN08 she seems to want to keep replying to you. But it might be because you started out by talking down to her - I can only guess that Melody has a thing for that, given her accounts of how she has been treated and the fact when you try and chat to her in a rational way she doesn't want to know.

[melody mayheim]

I treat people the way they treat me. When people respect me n treat me like a human being they get that same respect. I dont respect any BOY who lies n uses women for sex n threatens to put his hands on her because she outs him. Frankly I would never take advice from anyone from this board other than relevant people because to me your all living a lie. And who wants it needs a liar anyways??? I just know Im right. And when Im right. I stand my ground.

[melody mayheim]

Of course lester..u take his side because like him...u r that same type of guy...Of course I keep replying its my fucking post..you dont tell him to just keep quiet n move on...but you say ooo she must have a thing for that lol youre just as a punk as him so why dont you closest homos move on :) I can accept that Im a bitchy tranny but you guys cant accept that fact u r closet coward homos..dont get defensive cuz u cant accept the truth.

[Lester316]

Therefore from what you have just said the fact that you came to the site and put your original post in the General Discussion board when there is an option to use a Ladies Only board where us 'BOYS' can't read or comment suggests two things:

1: Your OP was designed simply to troll and cause arguments. Knowing that you cared nothing for the comments of any of us guys you came here started a thread with an inflamatory topic just to seek attention and drama.

OR

2: You have no idea at all how a discussion board works. Either where to post you particular topic or that even though you don't desire comments, suggestions and debate one little bit you thought 'hey I know what why don't I put my thoughts in a place where I'll get all of those'.

Anyhow once again there you go with the lumping people into one group: 'Frankly I would never take advice from anyone from this board other than relevant people because to me your all living a lie'. The questions really must be, who are the 'relevant people'? Would they be the people that don't actually use the board maybe? And nicely done for suggestion all the board users are living a lie; if one of the guys came here and suggested something like that in reference to you and other TS-girls he'd be called out as an asshat (rightly so of course) so let me suggest something...

As you neither care or want other opinions from the people who come here it's a waste of time putting up a post that asks for them. Well unless you are just being a troll. If so congratulations your mission has been accomplished.

[Lester316]

If you read my posts...

you would see that at no point did I ever take sides with a guy who has disrespected you. I pointed out the hypocrisy of doing something nasty (such as outing someone) when you had been hurt emotionally; you know the whole thing about two wrongs not making a right.

My point all the way has been you could be a better person and more mature and all of that but as stated in my last post I get the feeling you just feel like arguing regardless and intend to keep insulting all the guys who use the boards by calling them 'cowards', 'faggot', and 'closet homos' which I believe is trollish behavior at it's best and quite insulting and hurtful. Were any guys to use similar derogatory terms in your direction I suspect they would be banned I only hope the same sense prevails in your case and that we are all treated equally.

[melody mayheim]

Lol honestly I didn't know that there was a choice on who can view ur posts but I wanted everyone to see it. I dont mind debating. The question is what are you guys so afraid of???? And Im far from a troll...Im actually a sweetheart...but like I said..I stand my ground. Especially when im right. I have absolutely nothing to be afraid of.

[melody mayheim]

And If u read my previous comments I agreed n said it wasnt my place..didnt I?

[melody mayheim]

This is my post. You feel hurt then move on. Why continue to xomment back?

[melody mayheim]

You r quick to say 2 wrongs dont make a right but then call me a troll lmao now how hypocritical is that.

[lifeisfiction]

No need for the fuss. You guys do know she is venting. I mean women will come on this board and vent. In fact women will vent in real life. Its common. I don't see why you folks would take it so personal. She didn't lump everyone together. I was shocked she agreed with what I was saying.

All my female friends will at some point call me to vent on their dating situation. It's usually the same thing, they dated a jerk, didn't realize they dated a jerk and then get pissed of at themselves for not realizing they were dating a jerk. The conversation would usually go as, "I can't believe I fell for this guy, I really thought he was a great guy." Then it will move on to." why do I tend to attract jerks?" Then the next stage is all men are evil, and remember they are tell me (a man) this, lol. Then finally, they take a step back and say "well there are good men out there why can't I find them."

After this conversation which usually ranges from 50mins to 3 hours, I will say maybe you are looking at the wrong qualities in a guy. They of course agree then kick themselves when it happens again.

This is quite common, so I know and understand what Melody is saying. Just don't take it personal. She is not trying to make it personal.

[melody mayheim]

someone who gets me ;)

[Lester316]

I could list 5 or 6 times in the thread at least where Melody made statements that effectively said all guys are the same or that the type of guys who have mistreated her are just like guys on this board. It doesn't hurt my feelings in the slightest, my point was comparing people she has never met to people who have treated her like shit could well hurt people's feelings.

Venting is fine, it's not just women who vent I'm pretty sure all people have to at some point. What I have an issue with is someone using the boards to call the guys here faggots, cowards, closet homos and other derogatory terms. It's that attitude that I deem to be trollish and calling someone a troll for acting in such a way is in no way hypocritical. When I suggested before that Melody could be the better person and move on without outing the guy who hurt her I called her a hypocrite for not doing that - for causing someone genuine real emotional trauma when they had done so to her.

When Melody stops calling guys who use the boards faggots, cowards, and closet homos I'll gladly stop pointing out how she is acting like an internet troll and simply trying to argue and incite.

[melody mayheim]

Thats ur issue...you care way too much about what others think..lol if you dont care why go on n defend urself? If being honest is being a troll.then ill be a troll. But ur still a closest coward homo. I feel like im just repeating myself to someone who cant accept his label.

[melody mayheim]

Whether it's our race..weight..sexuality..etc etc..We are all talked about..constantly being labeled n judged. You are a real weak person if you cant handle it. Thats the difference between u n I...I would never allow someone who's irrelevant to determine my happiness. Noone pays my bills but me. So noones opinion matter.

[Lester316]

The point you constantly miss is that I'm not offended by you I just think there is no need for you to come here and be so offensive. But by all means carry on throwing out the derogatory slurs it just shows the type of person you clearly are.

As is often pointed out you can be a guy or girl, of any race, any sexual persuasion. In fact there are all sorts of things you have no real choice in being but you can choose not to be a horrible person. You choose to be that way; hopefully if you carry on with that choice you will get banned for it.

[LI SEAN08]

LOL... Lester.... You should of been a spokesperson for some government agency or something. I commend you !!! Anyway, Im standing down to Miss Melody, shes obviously not worth it any longer. This thread will simply die out........ She just doesn't understand the trouble outing a guy can cause in his life. But she'll continue to feel we are just cowards because we don't want to admit we get turned on to tranny sex.

[Lester316]

The irony is she speaks as if all guys are exactly the same, some guys will be quite open about what they like others prefer to keep it personal. Either is just fine in my book; after all it's their choice.

Coming here and calling all guys closeted, cowards and homos just because one or two guys treated her badly shows how fragile her character is. And as I suggested before if a guy who had a bad relationship with a TS girl came to the boards and started labelling all TS girls in similar ways he'd be rightly called out on his actions.

[GroobySteven]

Thats ur issue...you care way too much about what others think..lol if you dont care why go on n defend urself? If being honest is being a troll.then ill be a troll. But ur still a closest coward homo. I feel like im just repeating myself to someone who cant accept his label.

Ok - one and only warning. This isn't the place to be calling people names, it's not the place to shame people, and it's not the place to vent. Keep it up - and you're out. Same rules apply to everyone.

[melody mayheim]

Coming from someone who posts perverted applicants from the site to fb to tease them n laugh. I apologize that these BOYs are so hurt n sensitive. It won't happen again lol

[gaysian71]

Ok - one and only warning. This isn't the place to be calling people names, it's not the place to shame people, and it's not the place to vent. Keep it up - and you're out. Same rules apply to everyone.

Haha, that's pretty funny. A guy can post in this thread promising to do bodily harm to a girl. But the female OP calls someone a closet coward homo and she's out. Hmmmmm. What's that saying my mother used to tell me when I was a little boy? Oh Ya, I remember. "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can really hurt me.". Lol, not exactly that, but it works here. Lol.

Remember Jennifer Justice. I always thought she was one of the best posters. But under this regime, she would have been banned after her first post.

[melody mayheim]

Im sure one of them ran n tattle taled...not suprised...Im sure they mentioned the name calling but excluded the whole physical harm towards ts girls...but no worries..

[GroobySteven]

Haha, that's pretty funny. A guy can post in this thread promising to do bodily harm to a girl. But the female OP calls someone a closet coward homo and she's out. Hmmmmm. What's that saying my mother used to tell me when I was a little boy? Oh Ya, I remember. "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can really hurt me.". Lol, not exactly that, but it works here. Lol.

Remember Jennifer Justice. I always thought she was one of the best posters. But under this regime, she would have been banned after her first post.
I don't have the luxury of time of reading the whole thread, but if someone threatens someone then hit the report button - the rules are pretty clearly posted on this, and I got multiple on Melody's posts. You've been on the edge multiple times, keep it up and you know where you can go also.

If there are problematic posts, report them and a moderator will take a look.

[GroobySteven]

Coming from someone who posts perverted applicants from the site to fb to tease them n laugh. I apologize that these BOYs are so hurt n sensitive. It won't happen again lol

What I do in one place, is irrelevant to what I do elsewhere. There are many bars and saloons in town, what is appropriate in one isn't necessarily in another. This place runs well because the girls and the guys abide by the same rules.

[GroobySteven]

When I read the first page of this thread it had my blood boiling. I ran into a tranny that I know for a long time who has access to some of my female friends. None of them know my fetish for T gurls. Yesssss. it s only a fetish, and if I like having a good orgasm with them its my business! I can honestly say that if I was purposely outed by a tranny, I would stoop to anything to make her pay dearly for what she did. I promise that shed regret it the rest of her life every time she looked in a mirror

Final warning here.

[yodajazz]

Melody, I want to weigh in on this discussion. It better to not hurt someone back, that hurts you. It's better to take the attitude that it's their loss, and keep on stepping. There are several reasons for this. And I can say, that I have seen lots of life. The number one reason is, after they have hurt you, a fair percentage will regret it later, and want to get back with you, then it will be your choice. People do mature over time. Sometimes the person who hurt you has a friend waiting in the wings, who was waiting for you to break up with the guy. And in his mind he has vowed to treat you better. Third, when you hurt someone else it really prolongs your own pain, as the other person reacts to what you have done back to them. And he may even have a violent response. The more prolonged it gets, you will want to share your feelings about it with a new love. he may appear to be sympathetic, but in the back of his mind, he will think; 'I wonder if she would do this to me'? And that by itself could make him back off. So just let the one who hurt you go, and concentrate on finding your own happiness, outside of relationships. Your happiness will attract someone else faster than anything else. Hate to go deep on you, but what your subject is mainly about is the ancient concept of forgiveness. When you forgive somebody, it does more for yourself. It means that you refuse to keep carrying the pain someone else's actions have given you. More than likely they will get their payback, eventually without you doing anything, as they often continue the same behaviors. Often times friends will introduce you to others, when you have a good reputation, (like not hurting others, no matter the reason). So just know, that there is someone out there better for you.

[melody mayheim]

Good point yodajazz! And it's true...they always try to come back...Ive done it a couple times in my past but I have gotten way better at just walking away..but it is difficult! Especially on certain situations when I actually do care...