Jobs in the adult industry

[SilverMarc]

I'm usually a lurker, but I've been wondering about what non-performer jobs (I definitely don't have the personality to be on screen or body for that matter lol.) are there behind the scenes, other than directing or photography. Also, what would be the requirements for them?

[KellyKlaymour]

I've only encountered a grip on set a handful of times..it's typically just the model(s), and the all inclusive director/videographer/photographer. Depending on the company there can be a makeup/hair person and/or wardrobe person.

&&Just my opinion, the circuit is pretty tight-knit, you'll have to prove yourself in producing your own content/trades before even being considered to being hired

[Jericho]

Fluffer! :hide-1:

[SilverMarc]

@KellyKlaymour I see... I appreciate your response. Thanks

@Jericho Uhhh I don't know about that lol

[Ts RedVeX]

Yes, yes... fluffers are very important!

[SilverMarc]

@TSRedVex If that involves fellating (Is that a word? If not, it is now) I'd definitely have to pass on that one.. anything else though... Depends, I guess.... lol

[DeadGirl-Productions]

Fluffers don't exist. They are a myth. It's not an option.

[Wendy Summers]

As others have said there's not much more on set for Ts porn...

Administratively & post-production there is work available. Editors, graphic designers, copy writers, marketing & PR jobs.

[SilverMarc]

Extremely late to comment my own thread but thanks for the response, Wendy. Maybe I'll look into one of those.

[NatIce]

What about making investments? Is the business such a money printing press and/or so concentrated that a few backers matter and add value and no one else sees the deals?

There was a semi shady porn related private placement company and I got on their list before they went bust. Always wished I could have invested in some TS porn deal but never saw one. Seems like there would be more startup initiatives given all the talk of TS porn's popularity over the past decade give or take

[GroobySteven]

What about making investments? Is the business such a money printing press and/or so concentrated that a few backers matter and add value and no one else sees the deals?

There was a semi shady porn related private placement company and I got on their list before they went bust. Always wished I could have invested in some TS porn deal but never saw one. Seems like there would be more startup initiatives given all the talk of TS porn's popularity over the past decade give or take


If TS porn was more lucrative then there would be more content and companies producing, it's unlikely that they'd need more backing. The fact is, that the "old days" of setting up a shop with a good idea on the adult internet arena and making it work, are for the most part over. Unless you've got something very special (and I don't know what could be), you'd be looking at up to a 3 yr period for a return on investment on a website given that you know what you are doing. Otherwise, it's more likely never to return the investment.
It's not so much to do with TS porn - but as porn in general, which is why you've seen a contraction in the amount of companies and product being developed.

[flabbybody]

How do you compensate people who produce original content? I'm talking way beyond the porn industry. Kids nowadays laugh at adults like me who still pay for television. They stream everything for free and they don't even pay for their Netflix. Like a queen bee one of them has a password and its shared with dozens of their mates. At some point there won't be an incentive to create anything new.

[buttslinger]

Maybe somebody on this site could tell me if the Asian and Middle Eastern market has been exploited, SHE-MALE WISE, that is?? In other words, is there a Chinese or South Korean WendySummers.com?

Part of me can't help but fantasize that I go out on the street and pick up a ho for a hundred bucks, .....If I film our meeting, then it's not even illegal and maybe I can sell it to somebody for a hundred bucks.

Ten thousand migraine headaches later and maybe you could make enough money to make it pay off, my nephew went to film school for four years, and found out the hard way that after school was over, people no longer got off on being in his movies for free, or even for money. The World would be such a beautiful place if only the people would do what I instruct them to do....

Yet...if you can sketch a comic book graphic novel type story, you've basically just story-boarded a movie.



To be successful now, you'd have to follow GroobySteven around for a few weeks and steal his act, work backwards, and find out what actually works. In the real world. If putting sexual fantasy on a CD was as easy as I imagine, I'd be a millionaire now.

My FILME would be about a loser-guy with a dead end job who embezzles money from his employer and descends into a hellish world of strip clubs, whores, and drugs. Sex in cars, alleys, seedy fleabag hotel rooms. It would be filmed in black and white and have just a touch of gritty "noise" added in, and religious artifacts strewn around to attract the critics. Just as I understand the error of my ways (after several riveting crimes) I would get stabbed in the spine by a pimp whose whore I had killed.
TEMPTATION: ONE
BUTTSLINGER:ZERO

That would be the name of it.

[natina]

Cum moppers & other janitorial and bullshit blue collar jobs.

[Ts RedVeX]

:tongue:

[Wendy Summers]

How do you compensate people who produce original content? I'm talking way beyond the porn industry. Kids nowadays laugh at adults like me who still pay for television. They stream everything for free and they don't even pay for their Netflix. Like a queen bee one of them has a password and its shared with dozens of their mates. At some point there won't be an incentive to create anything new.

That said, that's the same generation who is heavily into things like kickstarter. They're willing to spend money on particular projects that interest them. The problem with that model are the difficulties of getting someone to deliver on the product you've bought into.

Heck you can see this within porn: it's part of the reason for the rise of the solo model and the resurgence of webcam... a fan can actively vote with their dollars for the models they enjoy. The only reason I've had the longevity I've seen with this is because I have fans who are willing to support my work by buying it and I know other models in a similar situation (both GG and TS).

[NatIce]

Very interesting, thanks for the thoughtful reply. Feels like the next wave of defensible content production business models has to be VR (virtual reality). You sell an encrypted and permission managed library of poses, angles, sounds and spoken phrases, outcomes, to the likes of an Oculus visor owner. Large barriers to entry (development time horizons and capitalized R&D costs are large) including licensing deals with most famous actresses. Add a tiny, subscription-specific watermark in one corner for rights management (pursuing people who record and publish their sessions). Are you guys looking at VR or is it too niche still?

The world is waiting on porn to sponsor the next big technical breakthrough!

[GroobySteven]

Maybe somebody on this site could tell me if the Asian and Middle Eastern market has been exploited, SHE-MALE WISE, that is?? In other words, is there a Chinese or South Korean WendySummers.com?
It's almost impossible to bill both S.Korea and China (as well as many Middle Eastern areas). Also most porn is blocked there so creating a viable business in adult there is a non-starter.



Part of me can't help but fantasize that I go out on the street and pick up a ho for a hundred bucks, .....If I film our meeting, then it's not even illegal and maybe I can sell it to somebody for a hundred bucks.
If you paid her to film her, she'd have to sign a model release and provide you with ID. It may be illegal depending on where you film it. Why would someone want to buy it for $100 - and where is the profit in that?



To be successful now, you'd have to follow GroobySteven around for a few weeks and steal his act, work backwards, and find out what actually works. In the real world. If putting sexual fantasy on a CD was as easy as I imagine, I'd be a millionaire now.
It's easy to emulate what we do in terms of content production or building a website. If you followed me around you'd see me sitting in front of a computer for 8-10 hrs a day answering emails and PM's or planning. It's not so easy to make it a viable business - or to be able to wait for that investment to pay back. Some of our sites go over $100k in debt before they begin to pay the company back. It's taken us 20 yrs to build up our networks, connections and experience and it's still a struggle day-to-day to bring in new customers or keep people buying.



My FILME would be about a loser-guy with a dead end job who embezzles money from his employer and descends into a hellish world of strip clubs, whores, and drugs. Sex in cars, alleys, seedy fleabag hotel rooms. It would be filmed in black and white and have just a touch of gritty "noise" added in, and religious artifacts strewn around to attract the critics. Just as I understand the error of my ways (after several riveting crimes) I would get stabbed in the spine by a pimp whose whore I had killed.
TEMPTATION: ONE
BUTTSLINGER:ZERO

That would be the name of it.
Sounds like a Jim Jarmusch!! :-)

[nysprod]

Every business needs accounting and tax work done...someone has to deal with all those millions rolling in lol

[CaptainPlanet]

What Steven is really trying to say is "Stay out of my LANE"

[GroobySteven]

What Steven is really trying to say is "Stay out of my LANE"
No not at all :-)
I love working with some of our competitors ... and others I don't!
I give probably more advice then most out on the business - and am always open to ideas that people might have to work together - or if they need advice. However, I do get irritated when I get emailed with silly statements like one this week, paraphrased;
"please send me how I can build a company like yours."

[Wendy Summers]

No not at all :-)
However, I do get irritated when I get emailed with silly statements like one this week, paraphrased;
"please send me how I can build a company like yours."

Are you more or less irritated by those questions compared to the faceless shots of guys wanting to be a stunt cock?

#inquiringmindswanttoknow

[buttslinger]

It's too bad the logistics for getting in on the ground floor in Asia are so tough, there are billions of people over there, ..sigh.

It seems to me Wendy Summers is the exception to the rule in a lot of ways, all the girls I met in the adult industry weren't as interested in sex and relationships as they were interested in drugs. Because escorting is illegal in the USA, all of the escorts are criminals. It's funny to me that Liberty Harkness does no drugs, and lives in what seems to be a very large and expensive estate. She probably has a CPA, I doubt any CPA in the States would advise a client to go into the adult entertainment biz, unless it were the owner of a strip club or something, the mark-up on a Budweiser is what, a thousand percent?

My knowledge of the sex industry and drugs are a generation past, worthless now, and I don't have the cash to be a Sugar-Daddy. Unless you live in a large city, hooking up with a tranny means craigs list or something.

I have a hunch the psychologists who were taught that guys who get off on porn are immature losers, will change their tune a bit now that the norm of getting married and having six kids and a happy job is disappearing. Now you go to college for four years and can't even get a job. Being warped isn't just for losers anymore.