Meeting transsexuals

[Youngchocolate]

Other than the two times I've had the pleasure of beautiful escorts coming to Sheffield I've never met a transsexual in person.
As great as the escort service is, it will always feel like business.
I for one enjoy a nice cuddle after sex which isn't something that would feel genuine in an escort situation.
Maybe its just my city and I try out somewhere else for a bigger transsexual scene.

Anyone else feel this way?

[theplumber2012]

Yes, me too. I have tried tsmeet.com but that is actually just AFF in disguise. Any decent dating sites for TS Girls in the USA?

[Tiffany Starr]

Meeting me personally is easy. I go to AVN every year, and the T awards. Plus a bunch of anime/comic conventions. The problem is would i be willing to do anything with men IE date, sex, etc. when i'm there? Maybe at AVN but honestly i'm usually busy working or working the girls whahaha.

[theplumber2012]

Meeting me personally is easy. I go to AVN every year, and the T awards. Plus a bunch of anime/comic conventions. The problem is would i be willing to do anything with men IE date, sex, etc. when i'm there? Maybe at AVN but honestly i'm usually busy working or working the girls whahaha.
So should I pick you up at 7 then? LOL.

I'm guessing none of these awards shows are where I am (SL,UT)

[theplumber2012]

On a serious note, is there a decent online dating forum that isn't full of fakes?

[francisfkudrow]

AFF is actually OK. I've met a few cool people on there.

[Smiley22]

Aff is cool...just have to weed out the fakes on there. Is Sheffield in England? I'm in a big city in the states and met someone(pic). Don't want to show her face or parts but she VERY nice looking and passable. Maybe you have find someone in a bigger city near you and visit. Most are open to that there. Btw...I'm a black man also so race shouldn't be a problem.




Other than the two times I've had the pleasure of beautiful escorts coming to Sheffield I've never met a transsexual in person.
As great as the escort service is, it will always feel like business.
I for one enjoy a nice cuddle after sex which isn't something that would feel genuine in an escort situation.
Maybe its just my city and I try out somewhere else for a bigger transsexual scene.

Anyone else feel this way?

[pimpdog]

If your too stupid to meet a girl, then you dont deserve her anyways.

[omnifarious]

If your too stupid...

The irony...


OP: On a more positive note, stay ummm... well positive.

[theplumber2012]

The irony...


OP: On a more positive note, stay ummm... well positive.
LOL, I agree!

[Dark passenger]

In my city theres really no TS scene at all. You gotta look in the backpage because there are rarely any girls on Euros. I've been to cities like San Diego and met a few really hot girls, and a couple in Arizona, but none in my own city. As for the finder sites, you may meet a nice girl or two, but unless ur our n about meeting girls, you never really know what ur in for.

[crystalsopen]

So should I pick you up at 7 then? LOL.

I'm guessing none of these awards shows are where I am (SL,UT)
At first read, I thought you where calling Tiffany Starr a slut, lolz. T awards are in (LA, CA) and the avn's are in (LV, NV). So you can get to either in 1 days drive.

[crystalsopen]

On a serious note, is there a decent online dating forum that isn't full of fakes?
In my experience as a tgirl who has been lonely in the past, online dating sucks for finding real relationships as a transsexual.

When I was single, and earlier in transition. I tried several sites. I mostly got people trying to hire me as an escort, people who just wanted sex discrete sex, and a ton of people sending a one line hey.

My advice:
If you want an escort, look at a site like EROS and read the reviews.
If you want a real relationship, its hard b/c +/- 10% of guys want (my own estimate) and +/- 0.3% of the people are trans. So finding a hot tgirl for free discrete sex is challenging & unlikely for guys (or girls).

[theplumber2012]

At first read, I thought you where calling Tiffany Starr a slut, lolz. T awards are in (LA, CA) and the avn's are in (LV, NV). So you can get to either in 1 days drive.

LOL, no, Salt Lake (SL) Utah (UT). Glad you re-read it.

Yeah, I mean local girls for a relationship. Although if she was serious about me hooking up with her, I'd make the drive! LOL

[LittleGuy]

Transgendered women don't date. They're all sex workers. You must be new to this.

[TS jazmin]

Transgendered women don't date. They're all sex workers. You must be new to this.

Thats quite the narrow minded ignorance you wouldnt expect to see on this site...
Before i entered the world of adult working i was in a faithful and monogamous relationship with a very supportive young man for 4 years

[LittleGuy]

Thats quite the narrow minded ignorance you wouldnt expect to see on this site...
Before i entered the world of adult working i was in a faithful and monogamous relationship with a very supportive young man for 4 years

Keyword: Before

[TS jazmin]

Keyword: Before

Of course... well i wouldnt date and work in this industry at the same time... that would make me as bad as those miserable people that sit behind the safety of their computer screen trolling
Who wants to be one of those dicks right?

[theplumber2012]

Transgendered women don't date. They're all sex workers. You must be new to this.

Not cool dude. Pretty offensive to probably most people here.

[CrystalKing]

Transgendered women don't date. They're all sex workers. You must be new to this.
This comment is baseless. Hell, at least one of the women who's posted in this thread dates (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1212188&postcount=1).

[lilmunat]

It is incredibly difficult to meet a transsexual woman. There just are not thay many of them. A good percentage are not passable. Another good percentage hate their penises, so they really can't really give you a ts experience. Being attracted to them is a curse more than anything else.

Sorry to be so negative but you should know the truth. You would do well to find another way to deal with your attraction to transexual women

The one caveat to all of this is....being wealthy. If you have a good deal of money you shouldn't have too much trouble finding anything including ts women.

Good luck. Try to stay positive, maybe you will succeed where the rest of us have failed.

[crystalsopen]

LOL, no, Salt Lake (SL) Utah (UT). Glad you re-read it.

Yeah, I mean local girls for a relationship. Although if she was serious about me hooking up with her, I'd make the drive! LOL

Good call. ;-)

[crystalsopen]

It is incredibly difficult to meet a transsexual woman. There just are not thay many of them. A good percentage are not passable. Another good percentage hate their penises, so they really can't really give you a ts experience. Being attracted to them is a curse more than anything else.

Sorry to be so negative but you should know the truth. You would do well to find another way to deal with your attraction to transexual women

The one caveat to all of this is....being wealthy. If you have a good deal of money you shouldn't have too much trouble finding anything including ts women.

Good luck. Try to stay positive, maybe you will succeed where the rest of us have failed.

You aren't really inaccurate here, but good guys (who want a committed long-term loving relationship) who want to date a Trans-woman are also rare. The desire to date and form a romantic relationship is a normal human need. And it exists for people who do sex work too. I was still web camming as my main source of income, when I met my current boyfriend. I don't mention his name or talk about him much, because he does not do any kind of sex work. I imagine most people in the industry dating someone who is not a performer would keep them out of the spotlight. But everybody is different.

The saddest part of this is I have seen some very pretty, very nice transwoman friends, who have struggled to find a loving partner. I used to lament "I get can regularly get 300-600 guys in my cam shows who want to fuck me, but finding a good one to date me is almost impossible".

Being trans also tends come with employment discrimination and medical bills, so many trans girls end up financially desperate.

This is just what I have seen and experienced, your mileage may vary.

Best wishes.

BTW: for me good guy = emotionally mature (acts like a man not a boy), successful (has succeeded at something meaningful, but doesn't have to be rich), and generous (shares his time, attention etc).

[fireblad]

Other than the two times I've had the pleasure of beautiful escorts coming to Sheffield I've never met a transsexual in person.
As great as the escort service is, it will always feel like business.
I for one enjoy a nice cuddle after sex which isn't something that would feel genuine in an escort situation.
Maybe its just my city and I try out somewhere else for a bigger transsexual scene.

Anyone else feel this way?

Looks like we are in the same boat mate, and I'm also in England. Tried TV Chicks and Birchplace but nothing substantial ever came of it. Been to Wayout (London) a few times but its mostly escorts there too or just tv girls looking for that occassional sex fix. I'm not into escort sex so did try to date one but it never came to anything. I find that most hot ts girls escort or are in some way in the sex industry and dealings with them always come down to money. I'm sorry but I'm not a cash machine. Honestly I think GGs are way better for meaningful relationships and tgirls are best for sexual fantasies but then I hate meaningless sex.

[SXFX]

Look for one keep praying...odds are low. If you live outside of a major city...even lower!

And if you meet one...odds are she is going to think you are a chaser.
Like the little lady above said, 300-600 guys who just want to fuck her...and there you show up with your life together.

Ever wonder why so many TS girls date thugs? Simple they win the asshole game. So there you are being a decent guy trying to be different from the other 600. then comes thugy mc gee with dumb fucking neck tattoo....he just blows you away.

And TS girls wonder why they end up where they end up when they are 30+

[fireblad]

The chance of dating a tgirl LTR is a mirage. No point in trying. Besides there is so much promiscuity in the LBGT scene its almost dangerous being in a relationship with a tgirl.

[LI SEAN08]

Transgendered women don't date. They're all sex workers. You must be new to this.

This is so true in the state of NY where I live, so Im wondering who the ones who disliked the above post!!
Ive met several CD's tho who just want to hang out with out being rewarded for their time.

[Skye]

Shit. Meeting trans people is easy as heck, whether through online dating or through going to bars and stuff. I was meeting other LGBT people long before I told anyone I was trans, before transitioning. It's really, really easy to do.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not at all passable, yet. But, whenever a guy asks me if I am or not, I just throw out that no one's perfect and they should totally not be judging me. I mean, why ask a girl if she's passable? It's insulting. You can look at a photo of their face, and you'll know the answer. lol.


I use sites like POF, OKC, and Transgenderdate. I know lots of trans on all 3.

(What is AFF?)

[rodinuk]

...(What is AFF?)

AdultFriendFinder

[KellyKlaymour]

The chance of dating a tgirl LTR is a mirage. No point in trying. Besides there is so much promiscuity in the LBGT scene its almost dangerous being in a relationship with a tgirl.
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Transgendered women don't date. They're all sex workers. You must be new to this.

Just wow. I could go on a long rant about what terrible, generalizing assholes you are, but I'll leave it at that. Good luck at finding anyone to please your ignorant love lives ever.

Speaking for MYSELF, I'm monogamous, single, and try to date as much as possible in hopes of finding "The One". I know there are MANY out there like myself. If I were in to men, though, I know neither one of you would ever get a single chance from me based off your disgusting comments.

[Korra_Del_Rio]

There are some pretty fucked up responses on here. Sure a lot of girls escort especially a lot of girls on here. A site focused on porn with a whole sub category focusing specifically on escorts. Like WTF dude? That's like going to a bar and complaining about all the beer ads on the walls...

Along the lines of promiscuity and trans women being inherently dangerous? You know how many people I've been with in my life? Prior to shooting porn it was 2, almost a year in shooting porn and it's now 9.

Those additional seven all being scene partners and tested for STD's prior to shooting. How many of you get tested or have you partner tested wthin two weeks of sexual intercourse? 0?

Basically, ass hats, this shit is super uncool.

As far as meeting transsexuals go try OKcupid? Try going to Trans* Positive rallies, trying out the local LGBT bars, use common sense.

Honestly, if I get even a hint that you're flirting with me simply because you think I'm trans* or know I'm trans* then there aint a chance in hell. If all you want is sex then there's a section on escorts.

If you're actively sleuthing around bars looking for a transsexual chances are you're going to find a transvestite, a gay man parading around in a dress, or a working girl selling her wears.

Finding a real true to god transsexual women is like finding that diamond in the rough. She's out there and if she's doing it right you'll never know until she feels comfortable enough to admit to being one. At which point you wouldn't have been seeing her because she's transsexual but rather because she's a cool chic.

[CrystalKing]

Well said, Korra.

But I'm curious ― why is it a dealbreaker for somebody to hit on you because you're trans? I don't see why it would necessarily imply that they were only after you for sex, any more than hitting on a redhead because you think redheads are cute would.

I know it's not a perfect analogy, but you're talking to a newbie here so please forgive my lack of understanding.

[gaysian71]

I have to agree with Kelly and say "Just wow". I was also about to go on a long rant, but I said fuck it. No one will read it anyway. But the fact of the matter is that there are a lot of trans women who will date a guy. I have had several relationships, and they were all great. And I'm just a ho hum, average joe, middle class guy. Granted I do have my fantasies, especially on the Interet. lol. But I keep my fantasies and reality separate.

Just get away from your computer and stop fantasizing. Nothing will happen if that's all you do. If you meet a girl, just be a gentleman and strike up a conversation with her. That's the best way to start any relationship. Isn't it?Those of you who think being a gentleman means being a door mat. Or if you think "Nice guys come in last". then you will just be stuck on a site like this making rude comments about the girls and their dating habits.

There are a lot of trans women out there and they come in all shapes, sizes, ages, races and demographic areas. you just have to look. I have not been to many countries outside the USA, but I'm pretty sure there are transgendered men and women in every country out there. It's not like the trans community just suddenly popped up with the birth of the Internet.

[Skye]

There are some pretty fucked up responses on here. Sure a lot of girls escort especially a lot of girls on here. A site focused on porn with a whole sub category focusing specifically on escorts. Like WTF dude? That's like going to a bar and complaining about all the beer ads on the walls...

Along the lines of promiscuity and trans women being inherently dangerous? You know how many people I've been with in my life? Prior to shooting porn it was 2, almost a year in shooting porn and it's now 9.

Those additional seven all being scene partners and tested for STD's prior to shooting. How many of you get tested or have you partner tested wthin two weeks of sexual intercourse? 0?

Basically, ass hats, this shit is super uncool.

As far as meeting transsexuals go try OKcupid? Try going to Trans* Positive rallies, trying out the local LGBT bars, use common sense.

Honestly, if I get even a hint that you're flirting with me simply because you think I'm trans* or know I'm trans* then there aint a chance in hell. If all you want is sex then there's a section on escorts.

If you're actively sleuthing around bars looking for a transsexual chances are you're going to find a transvestite, a gay man parading around in a dress, or a working girl selling her wears.

Finding a real true to god transsexual women is like finding that diamond in the rough. She's out there and if she's doing it right you'll never know until she feels comfortable enough to admit to being one. At which point you wouldn't have been seeing her because she's transsexual but rather because she's a cool chic.

I'm on both POF and OKCupid. I see several trans who publicly display on their profiles that they're trans. I, however, don't do that. I feel that if the guys (and girls) viewing my profiles can't tell, then I'm fine with not disclosing it until such a time as they've gotten to first know me. I'd like to meet people who aren't talking to me strictly on the basis of being a transsexual. If, when I tell them, they decide that they don't want to continue being friends, or move to the next stage, that's alright, but it gives them a chance to see that I'm actually a person.

And, I totally won't date anyone who is into me strictly for sex. There are escorts for that. lol.

[Korra_Del_Rio]

Well said, Korra.

But I'm curious ― why is it a dealbreaker for somebody to hit on you because you're trans? I don't see why it would necessarily imply that they were only after you for sex, any more than hitting on a redhead because you think redheads are cute would.

I know it's not a perfect analogy, but you're talking to a newbie here so please forgive my lack of understanding.

No it's not that. In my case I just don't want to be trans*. The fact that I am grosses me out and the idea someone would be interested in me specifically because of that rather than despite it really pushes my insecurity buttons.

Especially considering when in the long run I'm not a non-op and what happens to our relationship then? When I no longer am that chick with a dick? When I, as some have so eloquently put it, "lobbed off the thing us men love about you most?"

I have empathy for your guy's struggle. Transgender women aren't the most common occurrence. 33 percent of which like guys, 33 percent like girls, and 33 percent are bi. So of those only 66 percent might be interested in you. Of that group you start breaking down girls like me verses girls who are non-op vs etc etc etc. The numbers really dwindle.

It's not impossible it's just a lot easier to just watch porn with a tgirl staring in it, lol. :(

[Skye]

I'm not very familiar with all of the terms, to be honest. I didn't really look up a lot of this stuff, and my trans friends prior to transition were pretty localized, themselves. I had asked one of my best friends earlier what AFF was, and she had no clue. I also don't know what the trans* (the asterisk) means.

I personally lost my last "real" job when I started to transition. I was told by my boss that I was "upsetting" customers and other employees, and my hours were cut to 4 hours a week, when I lived an hour away. It didn't take a genius to understand that it was because I was working in a small town (re: Justin Bieber's hometown) and trans.

I like to keep my on-line life as just that, and separate my private life, which includes hanging out with friends. We joke about it when I post nudes or other stuff on the internet, and then we laugh at how guys (and I mean, ESPECIALLY guys) think that because I've done that, I deserve to be used only for sex.

I do my best to find an actual relationship. Being private about being trans on dating sites leads to still receiving the "wanna fuq?" emails from guys, but it's less than it was when I used to post it publicly. However, even the guys who seem genuine and interested change their tune to "wanna fuq?" as soon as I privately tell them "Hey, I'm a pre-op MTF transsexual" in more words than that; I explain what it is, and why I've done it, hoping they'll understand.

I have never dated a guy from a trans porn forum, because my assumption is they aren't interested in a LTR, they just want to explore a fantasy. This works great and all when doing things related to the industry, but outside of that, I go for someone who can actually respect me. I mean, reading a lot of these posts actually has left me feeling sick. See, I didn't become friends with trans people by targeting them. I just happened to be in LGBT bars, and became friends with a lot of people across the LGBT spectrum. And I did this by treating them with respect, and kindness, in the same way that I like to be treated.

My big fear, as well, is that if I date someone who is OK with me being pre-op, what happens when I have the surgery in 2 or 3 years? Do I get to go through the heart-break of them not wanting me anymore, because I don't fulfill that sexual niche?

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not against dating someone I meet on a forum, but I'm also a bottom, and that usually disqualifies me, immediately. Or, they bring up the whole "You don't look like a super model (re: not "passable" (re: i hate that term))" and then I disqualify them. lol :)

[CrystalKing]

No it's not that. In my case I just don't want to be trans*. The fact that I am grosses me out and the idea someone would be interested in me specifically because of that rather than despite it really pushes my insecurity buttons.
Ahh. I hadn't thought of that...

I'm sorry if I contributed to pushing those buttons myself.


Especially considering when in the long run I'm not a non-op and what happens to our relationship then? When I no longer am that chick with a dick? When I, as some have so eloquently put it, "lobbed off the thing us men love about you most?"
Well, maybe I'm being idealistic, but one would hope the person would love you regardless, even if one aspect of your sex appeal to them is lost. I know those kinds of relationships are really hard to find, but that holds true whether your trans or not (men leave women all the time when they grow older and lose their sex appeal, as one example).

Plus, if they're a top, "lobbing it off" might be a bonus ― one extra hole :wink:

[Korra_Del_Rio]

Plus, if they're a top, "lobbing it off" might be a bonus ― one extra hole :wink:

lol, :) RIGHT? As a dedicated bottom this is totally my argument haha

[CrystalKing]

lol, :) RIGHT? As a dedicated bottom this is totally my argument haha
Sounds right to me :grin:


I have never dated a guy from a trans porn forum, because my assumption is they aren't interested in a LTR, they just want to explore a fantasy.
I've only been here a few days, but it sounds like a lot of the people here would be interested in a long-term relationship if given the opportunity.

Then again, if Natassia's right that "9 out of 10 johns are married and with girlfriends", I'm probably wrong about that.


Or, they bring up the whole "You don't look like a super model (re: not "passable" (re: i hate that term))" and then I disqualify them. lol :)
It is a horrible word. Quite insulting, both in what it means and how it sounds (since outside of this context, it's a synonym for "mediocre").


Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not against dating someone I meet on a forum, but I'm also a bottom, and that usually disqualifies me, immediately.
As a top, I must say I was surprised at the predominance of bottoms here.

The first time I ever even heard about the concept of trans women was when some guy went around school showing this picture of Korean pop singer Harisu:
http://assets.protv.md/articles/files/thumbs/460x/668961.jpg

He was being a real jackass, going up to random guys and saying "You think this girl's hot?" And when they said yes, he'd say "Well she's actually a dude, so that means your gay!"

I remember thinking, "shit maybe I am gay, because she's fucking hot. I'd be all over that."

I know that came across as kind of random, but the reason I bring it up is because I would think that lots of guys would be like me ― they'd see a woman and be attracted to her (and want to fuck her), and then find out she was trans, and of course, the attraction doesn't go away. But I would think, in that situation, it would be more common to say "I want to fuck her" than to think "I want her to fuck me."

[Skye]

Hm, that wouldn't make them gay, in my mind. It seems they're attracted for all the legitimate reasons that a guy would be attracted to a girl. That's like saying your sexuality is determined by someones genitalia, even if you don't know what that is, and to me, that's wrong. With all the different positions on the spectrum for sexuality, it's hard to determine what's normal, and what anything is or isn't anymore. To be honest, as long as you're happy, and who you're with is happy, who cares what you "are" or what anyone "thinks" you are.

[fireblad]

Honestly

[fireblad]

Honestly, if I get even a hint that you're flirting with me simply because you think I'm trans* or know I'm trans* then there aint a chance in hell. If all you want is sex then there's a section on escorts.

If you're actively sleuthing around bars looking for a transsexual chances are you're going to find a transvestite, a gay man parading around in a dress, or a working girl selling her wears.

Finding a real true to god transsexual women is like finding that diamond in the rough. She's out there and if she's doing it right you'll never know until she feels comfortable enough to admit to being one. At which point you wouldn't have been seeing her because she's transsexual but rather because she's a cool chic.

I dont get your point really. You want a guy who has no transsexual experience to just start dating you because he has finally met you and you are so awesome that you changed his life? Its just fantastic your reasoning. You would rather give a hard time to a guy who has learnt to appreciate and be comfortable with trans gender women than the 'hot' guy who is gonna be disgusted with you when you tell you are packing heat below the belt, because of his limited understanding of the world, if thats the least he does. 'Tranny chasers' has come to include all the guys who are comfortable being in the tgirl scene coz what tgirls dream of is being able to get any guy off the street that they fancy. It must be the wish that if they convert the guy maybe the relationship will last or something. Unfortunately tgirls are still an acquired taste and I'm glad I still date GGs and I'm finding them more attractive by the day. Less maintenance. I dont go to Gay clubs coz I'm not into gay guys. Sometimes I go to tgirl venues coz I like hanging out with tgirls and am totally comfortable there. I dont go there for sex coz I dont particularly like casual sex. I also dont go out looking for a relationship coz that doesnt really make sense. Its nice to meet new people and make new friendships or just acquiantences coz thats just human. If sparks fly, they fly but dont categorize me in your narrow minded view.

[Skye]

The chance of dating a tgirl LTR is a mirage. No point in trying. Besides there is so much promiscuity in the LBGT scene its almost dangerous being in a relationship with a tgirl.

The chance of YOU dating a tgirl LTR is probably a mirage, most likely due to how you treat them. Like sexual fantasies. Jesus. You might have stood a chance dating someone out there if you weren't sending private messages to girls on sites offering to pay for them to send you sexual photos.

Here's a bit of a wake up call. Tons and tons of genetic girls do porn. But I don't see you making comments about them, but let's target trans people. Your statement lacks serious logic.

tldr;

[fireblad]

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Just wow. I could go on a long rant about what terrible, generalizing assholes you are, but I'll leave it at that. Good luck at finding anyone to please your ignorant love lives ever.

Speaking for MYSELF, I'm monogamous, single, and try to date as much as possible in hopes of finding "The One". I know there are MANY out there like myself. If I were in to men, though, I know neither one of you would ever get a single chance from me based off your disgusting comments.

I get you Kelly and my comments are more out of frustration than anything. All the best finding that 'Anomaly'.

[TS jazmin]

Have any of you guys ever thought about getting your butts off an escort/ pornstar forum, stopped referring to TS girls as a fantasy and start seeing then as real women? Maybe the reason all you find is escorts and pornstars is because that's the only places you look.
Try DATING sites. Not hook up sites like Craigslist.
The transsexuals that want love and monogamy don't waste their time on those sites.
Perhaps to find love you need to change the way you think, see and look
I was in a faithful monogamous relationship for 4 years. It's not impossible

[fireblad]

The chance of YOU dating a tgirl LTR is probably a mirage, most likely due to how you treat them. Like sexual fantasies. Jesus. You might have stood a chance dating someone out there if you weren't sending private messages to girls on sites offering to pay for them to send you sexual photos.

Here's a bit of a wake up call. Tons and tons of genetic girls do porn. But I don't see you making comments about them, but let's target trans people. Your statement lacks serious logic.

tldr;

Lol I just liked your pics coz you look very cool in them even though I couldnt see you very well. And tgirls are not a fantasy to me, they are a reality. I have tgirl friends, and I date both tgirls and GGs. My GGs relationships have been more fruitful than tgirl ones. You have a chip on your shoulder Skye. Was I supposed to be disgusted by the pics or have some high Utopian moral ground? You published your pics yourself , now is it wrong that I want to buy them? If you dont want to sell me your pics just dont, but try to make me out like a perv.

[Skye]

Your choice of wording in email suggests otherwise... And, in fact, contradicts your choice of wording on the public forum. And that's okay, because... this is a porn forum related to transsexuals. It's expected. If anything, I find it ironic that a thread about meeting and dating transsexuals exists here.

I absolutely do not like when a guy like you attempts to insult me. I don't like being lied to. But, again, expected. See, it would be believable if you had emailed someone who actually looks like a girl, asking for photos, but you emailed me, and threw in terms like 'babe' and 'hot' and when presented as not truthful, it's not flattering, it's insulting. But again, guy on porn forum, so I don't take it all that seriously.

The comments you've made in this thread don't suggest you have any respect for trans people, again, probably why your GG relationships have been better. I do hope you treat those women better than you treat these women. I'm not making you out to be a pervert, you've done it yourself, and even chose that term to identify with; I'm proud of you.

Speaking of chips on shoulders. Have any, I do not. But regardless of the type of forum, it's no excuse to attack any group of people the way you have been doing.

However, I think I'm done arguing with you. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I refer you to jazmin's post, above, on how to properly treat people.

[fireblad]

Have any of you guys ever thought about getting your butts off an escort/ pornstar forum, stopped referring to TS girls as a fantasy and start seeing then as real women? Maybe the reason all you find is escorts and pornstars is because that's the only places you look.
Try DATING sites. Not hook up sites like Craigslist.
The transsexuals that want love and monogamy don't waste their time on those sites.
Perhaps to find love you need to change the way you think, see and look
I was in a faithful monogamous relationship for 4 years. It's not impossible

Tgirls a 'fantasy' whose crazy idea is that? If there is a fantasy thing then I'm sure there are guys paying for it everyday to esorts and websites. To think of it, Bianca Freire is my fantasy, but then so is Scarlett Johansson, etc... This site is for opinions, info and some pervesions. I quite like the information side of things.

[Jamie French]

Trannies should only date other trannies, just as Lord Jesus God intended.

[Skye]

Trannies should only date other trannies, just as Lord Jesus God intended.

Love it.

[fireblad]

Your choice of wording in email suggests otherwise... And, in fact, contradicts your choice of wording on the public forum. And that's okay, because... this is a porn forum related to transsexuals. It's expected. If anything, I find it ironic that a thread about meeting and dating transsexuals exists here.

I absolutely do not like when a guy like you attempts to insult me. I don't like being lied to. But, again, expected. See, it would be believable if you had emailed someone who actually looks like a girl, asking for photos, but you emailed me, and threw in terms like 'babe' and 'hot' and when presented as not truthful, it's not flattering, it's insulting. But again, guy on porn forum, so I don't take it all that seriously.

The comments you've made in this thread don't suggest you have any respect for trans people, again, probably why your GG relationships have been better. I do hope you treat those women better than you treat these women. I'm not making you out to be a pervert, you've done it yourself, and even chose that term to identify with; I'm proud of you.

Speaking of chips on shoulders. Have any, I do not. But regardless of the type of forum, it's no excuse to attack any group of people the way you have been doing.

However, I think I'm done arguing with you. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I refer you to jazmin's post, above, on how to properly treat people.

Give a dog a bone. Your hostility astounds me. Insulted by a compliment? Thats a first. I found you attractive and said so. You posted porn and nudity and I said you are lovely and asked for more pics and suddenly I have insulted you? You have issues for picking a fight needlessly. How dare you call me a liar when I was being sincere? What evidence do you have that I treated you poorly? You attacked me when I thought we were cool.

[fireblad]

I guess this forum is just for porn people and escorts then Skye? So why are you so offended and bitter. Its good your pics dont show your personality coz you are such an unpleasant person. :dead:

[TS jazmin]

' I absolutely do not like when a guy like you attempts to insult me. I don't like being lied to. But, again, expected. See, it would be believable if you had emailed someone who actually looks like a girl, asking for photos, but you emailed me, and threw in terms like 'babe' and 'hot' and when presented as not truthful, it's not flattering, it's insulting. But again, guy on porn forum, so I don't take it all that seriously. '



Babe, i have to say, you really shouldnt take compliments as an insult.
you shouldnt assume that because someone calls you 'hot' theyre lying.
We (trans women) all start somewhere and everyone has a type. You should embrace your looks and accept every compliment you get because believe me, us transsexuals can get a lot of stick. its nice to have those compliments to remember.

Whether or not hes a douche... i think you should have a bit more confidence in yourself and your looks... ive seen the thread you posted... youre getting a lotta love girl!

Know your own beauty. inside and out xxx

[fireblad]

Whether or not hes a douche...

I'm not a douche. I have come a long way to be an admirer/supporter of the transgender community. I've gained and lost a lot too. I am close to some transgender people and very active in their lives. One of the comments I made was shit, I know, but thats from a frustration in my personal life concerning someone very close to me. I apologise for its offence but I'm not a douche.

[Skye]

Babe, i have to say, you really shouldnt take compliments as an insult.
you shouldnt assume that because someone calls you 'hot' theyre lying.
We (trans women) all start somewhere and everyone has a type. You should embrace your looks and accept every compliment you get because believe me, us transsexuals can get a lot of stick. its nice to have those compliments to remember.

Whether or not hes a douche... i think you should have a bit more confidence in yourself and your looks... ive seen the thread you posted... youre getting a lotta love girl!

Know your own beauty. inside and out xxx

Thank-you, jaz, for the kind words.



I don't take all compliments that way. Generally just the ones where it's obvious that they're lying. When my friends compliment my transition, we totally high-five. Literally, and then we go out for sushi!

The self-esteem issues generally stem from a lot of rejection. I mean, I've seen girls who look worse than I do get into trans porn, so when I got rejected, I was like, damn, I must be absolutely hideous. I think that once I reach a point, or hopefully reach a point, where I've sufficiently transitioned and look like a girl, that the self-esteem and confidence will go back to where it should be. I enjoy posting photos because it's nice to see anyone appreciating it, regardless of the reasons for it.

The beauty on the inside, I see. I mean. gamer-girl, daughter of an ex-catering business owner; I play video games and can rock anyone's world, cooking. What every guy wants, right? I jest. If that's not enough, "best of both worlds," can be slotted in there, too. :p

[fireblad]

Lol, Bianca Freire. :dancing:

[fireblad]

:dead:

[Skye]

I feel that he's a douche due to his poor treatment of me, privately; being harassed for private photos, essentially. No, literally, means no. I do, however, want to absolutely thank anyone who posted on my thread, for both positive and constructively-negative feedback. It's appreciated, and I'll continue to post nudity updates there. I just ask that comments and requests remain in the thread, instead of messaging me, directly, related to my own nudity / photos, unless you're a photographer who is interested in shooting me, which I would find to be very unlikely, but on that note, I pull off a pretty nice french maid look.

I like to break the rules, run my mouth, and be a general bad ass. But I'm a gamer, and have to be in order to survive in that world lol :)

However, I'm proud to say that I lead a pretty solid life outside of the internet. I'm well-educated and have pretty great familial support, even if they struggle to fully understand everything, but that's okay. My goal isn't to argue with anyone here, but I'm not against making someone who makes a rude, ignorant, or bigoted comment look stupid. Because it's fun to do, and because regardless of the type of forum, it shouldn't happen. We've done nothing to you, so please treat us respectively.

The unfortunate truth is a lot of guys can't separate the acting of the entertainment industry with real-life. Most people don't encounter trans people outside of their entertainment interactions, so it can be difficult, but in the end, we're all people, and treating us well is the first step to, well, a solid relationship. If you're having real-life struggles, it's still not an excuse to be rude.

[fireblad]

I feel that he's a douche due to his poor treatment of me, privately; being harassed for private photos, essentially. No, literally, means no.


You were harassed for your photos? I asked for your photos in one email to which you replied you were more interested in sending to website owners or photographers, then I replied offering you compensation via Paypal to which you did not reply but rather came onto this thread giving me abuse. Funny enough this is the first time I have ever asked a stranger for photos, which I now so regret.
And whats that you being more educated than me? LOL! Being condescending does not make for being cultured or knowledgeable. Stop trying to look good at my expense.
How dare you call me a douche? What does that make you then? Are you any better person now because I'm the 'douche' in your eyes? Do you even matter? Stop tarnishing my image with your bitter and desperate poisonous drivel. :loser:

[BJ4TS]

You may have walked past one on the street or looked past one in a restaurant. Not all girls look like the ones in pictorials or in videos.

[Skye]

You know, when I go to restaurants, or just walk down the street, I get treated like a normal girl. Which makes me pretty happy. I don't get called names, I don't get asked how big my cock is, I'm just generally respected, and I respect those I come in contact with, as a result. At the same time, like anyone else out in the world, at least, I would assume, anyone. I could likely be very wrong, I have sexual desires and of course, fantasies, and I find it fun to come here and post about it. But, I think like most people, I do my best to keep that stuff here and not have it follow me back to the real world. When I'm online, I do my best to respect those who are respectful towards me, and get a good laugh out of the ones who are disrespectful. I think most of us blend in pretty well. The idea is we're all women (and men) and how we were born doesn't change that. And it's a great feeling to go out and just be treated like me. It makes my day, and I quite often thank the people afterwards. They don't know that being nice to a stranger has an impact, so letting them know they've made a difference is one of the few ways that I can give back. Other ways include awesome things like volunteer work. See, we're just everyday people you encounter out in the world. I think, like you mentioned, people walk past us or interact with us everyday without ever realizing it.

[Smiley22]

What happened to this post?!?!?!? It's started out nice with a brother just asking some advice and became some drama and personal feuds. My opinion is this, all people deserve to respected period!

I see a MTF transgendered person as a woman period. I treat like a lady especially if she acts like one. I feel if a man treats her any other way, he treat a GG the same. If he hires transgendered lady escorts he probably has hired GG escorts.

I have chatted and met some transgender ladies online. Guess what? I have done the same with GGs. I am too shy to sometimes approach TG in public and the same goes for GGs.

I consider myself straight and a lady is a lady PERIOD. TGs find me attractive and so do GGs. Of sexually there is a different but not the intimacy. I have sexual connections with TGs where it about sex(pics, sexting, phone sex, cam sex, etc) and same with GGs. Both were mutual connections and choices between two adults. I have wine and dined, went to Broadway's plays and movies, etc with both types of ladies.

I have been accused of being negative, not the right guy, rude, offensive or whatever criticism throw my way in my life by all types of women. Basically I wasn't that persons type which I respected.

All in all there may be some ignorant people that treat transgendered ladies different in a negative way. But being a black man I understand some treat me different because of the color of my skin. But overall I understand that those are ignorant people and not all people are like that. I try to ask questions of TGs to better understand them better but I do the same with all people. I think open dialog is a better ways end ignorance.

So any ladies out there I hope you find the right person for you and understand all men aren't judge mental. And if all they want is sex or escorts they most likely want the same in all women.

Now I hope the gentleman who started this post can receive some great advice to meet a nice transgendered lady.

[Skye]

Well, just don't go out hunting for a TG woman. Meet a woman. If they happen to be TG, that's great. If not, that's great, too. We're everywhere. I go to straight bars/clubs as well as LGBT bars/clubs. The mall, to restaurants. Drinking parties on campus with friends. We're right under your nose.

[Smiley22]

Well, just don't go out hunting for a TG woman. Meet a woman. If they happen to be TG, that's great. If not, that's great, too. We're everywhere. I go to straight bars/clubs as well as LGBT bars/clubs. The mall, to restaurants. Drinking parties on campus with friends. We're right under your nose.
Great advice Skye!!!

[fireblad]

There should not be anything wrong with a guy that wants to exclusively date tgirls. Its his choice, his life, his right and if the tgirls get on with him then more power to that guy. Too many judgey types here. We all have our quirks; tgirls and blonde GGs are my kryptonite, but I'm wise to know that a human being is more than their outward appearance. Funny enough, of all my GG relationships, only one was a blonde lol. I date both GGs and tgirls, and if I ever get the 'surprise' I would be chuffed! Making friends and connections in the tgirl scene i.e clubs and venues has been the best way for me to find tgirl dates, and less dating sites. Good thing about actually meeting people is you meet their friends and acquaintences too. They invite you to something or you invite them to something, and voila you are in each other's social circle. I like making contact, communicating, being face to face making new friends and old ones. Yes you will meet escorts there and some one night stands but if your compass stays true it is inevitable you will bump into someone looking for something serious too. Even if its not serious, girls like going out on dates so just take her somewhere regular, be nice and just try to enjoy the moment. Rule of thump, never take a tgirl out to a tgirl venue unless thats where she specifically wants to go. Can't lie that I'm always on dates with tgirls but I've had dates and relationships over the years and I've enjoyed them all. I've also learnt something each time. I'm away on work at the moment but when I get back to London UK in January I'm sure to take my Brazilian tgirl 'friend' on a date night even though she is doing my head in at the moment. But I like her. A lot...

[Skye]

Please don't generalize what the rules are. They're different with every single person.

[Skye]

Smiley, If you're legitimately interested in meeting a woman - a woman of any kind, bear in mind that everyone is unique. The things they like/dislike and are okay/not okay with differentiates from everyone else. Take on each person, without generalized assumptions, and you should be fine. I doubt a trans woman will be against dating you just because you want to specifically date a trans woman. It'll come down to both how you treat them, and how you see them. But this might not really be the best place to go to meet someone. I mean... :p

[fireblad]

Don't generalise neither. If people meet on here what's it to you?

[crystalsopen]

Don't generalise neither. If people meet on here what's it to you?

Yeah everyone who generalizes is a dumb-ass ;-)

oh wait

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/tim_dallinger/Jokes/polar_face_palm.jpg

[Skye]

Fireblad, I wasn't generalizing. I think you need to google what it means.


My comment about meeting people on this forum was used in a singular fashion, there was no plural. Anyways, in my opinion trying to find love or dating on a porn forum isn't the best idea. But there are sites like TGDate that specialize in this sort of stuff. I personally use POF: http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=81592757

[fireblad]

'In your opinion'...doesn't make it the law of tgirl dating does it?

[holzz]

Trannies should only date other trannies, just as Lord Jesus God intended.

Meh...the Bible says a lot of things...i eat shellfish so i can date a TS too..:wiggle:

[holzz]

Have any of you guys ever thought about getting your butts off an escort/ pornstar forum, stopped referring to TS girls as a fantasy and start seeing then as real women? Maybe the reason all you find is escorts and pornstars is because that's the only places you look.
Try DATING sites. Not hook up sites like Craigslist.
The transsexuals that want love and monogamy don't waste their time on those sites.
Perhaps to find love you need to change the way you think, see and look
I was in a faithful monogamous relationship for 4 years. It's not impossible

I'd like to date a TS.

and I know i'll get flamed (don't care lolol..) but then my family is a conservative one and I don't see why I should risk losing contact because of this. I think this is why a lot of men who are into TSs don't openly date them, and I know this will get flames, but to me it's legitimate.

[TS jazmin]

I'd like to date a TS.

and I know i'll get flamed (don't care lolol..) but then my family is a conservative one and I don't see why I should risk losing contact because of this. I think this is why a lot of men who are into TSs don't openly date them, and I know this will get flames, but to me it's legitimate.

Thats a fair point, but...
If you fell in love with a GG your family didnt approve of, would you deny your feelings to please your family?

[holzz]

Thats a fair point, but...
If you fell in love with a GG your family didnt approve of, would you deny your feelings to please your family?

honestly cannot say...it's a tough call. i would find a halfway, but since transgenderism is still accepted it's harder to win people over. either way, i don't think family should be discarded, unless of abuse. they're the only people who truly may give a shit about you.

[fireblad]

Yeah family is the real juggernaut when it comes to these sort of relationships. But the bottom line is the same for all relationships is, you only introduce someone to you family if you are serious about them and they you. I know there is a bit of coming out for guys to do but remember the girl has lived the transition all their life and probably faced a lot of rejection on a daily basis. It shouldn't be that hard, for us guys if you really want to be with someone. There are girls who have transitioned late when they are already fathers and husbands, imagine how hard that is, to make their own families understand. So for a guy just accepting a tgirl and introducing them to their family is probably a less hard choice.

[Skye]

honestly cannot say...it's a tough call. i would find a halfway, but since transgenderism is still accepted it's harder to win people over. either way, i don't think family should be discarded, unless of abuse. they're the only people who truly may give a shit about you.

I imagine that family should support your decision to date or be with whoever makes you happy, even if they don't agree with it. Because they're family. When you're put into a position where you decide not to date or be with who you're attracted to, you're probably not going to be happy. And finding a trans woman who is willing to date her if you're interest is to keep her a secret so that your family doesn't get upset will probably be difficult to do.

tldr; if you like someone and want to be with them, stand by them, regardless of who opposes your decision, because that's the budding definition of love. You choose who your family is.

That's my opinion, at least.

[Smiley22]

Smiley, If you're legitimately interested in meeting a woman - a woman of any kind, bear in mind that everyone is unique. The things they like/dislike and are okay/not okay with differentiates from everyone else. Take on each person, without generalized assumptions, and you should be fine. I doubt a trans woman will be against dating you just because you want to specifically date a trans woman. It'll come down to both how you treat them, and how you see them. But this might not really be the best place to go to meet someone. I mean... :p
Skye...you are definitely a SWEETHEART!!! But unfortunately I have to correct you...I am NOT here to meet ladies. I am here just having fun posting. This is youngchocolates forum and he is the one seeking dating advice. I posted here to give advice and felt sorry for his post that it got away from that. I have no issues on meeting people online. If I wanted to contact someone, I'd probably do it privately not through a post...ha! Seriously, I appreciate the advice and agree with much of what you said. I apologize that pits mislead my intentions, but I date women of all shape, sizes, races and trans or GG because of attraction and personality compatibility.

[Skye]

It was more so for an in-general towards the OP or anyone. I don't entirely take a dating thread on a porn forum seriously, though. :p

[captain sensible]

Try Transgenderdate.com. com. I've met 3 fantastic women from there and, although only 1 led to anything, I would not change anything. Only problem is it has left me hankering more for a relationship with a TS and the meets are few and far between!

[SXFX]

If OKcupid is a mess for straight folks i can only imagine the shit show that Transgenderdate.com must be!