View Full Version : Disturbing racist video from israel
natina
10-09-2014, 02:06 AM
Israelis: "Ni&&ers go home!"
My footage from an anti-African rally by Jewish Israelis in Tel Aviv on October 5, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVyCfJ5cOOA
sukumvit boy
10-09-2014, 02:45 AM
Thanks natina . Unfortunately , more sad evidence of the evil we do 'with god on our side'.
broncofan
10-09-2014, 07:27 AM
It is terrible that such a rally took place Natina. There has unfortunately been racism in Israel against African Jews.
However, I don't really understand the graphic with one Ashkenazi Jew, one Yemeni Jew and one African Jew. I was raised as a Jew though do not practice. Although I don't doubt there are some racists among Jewish people (as there are among all people) there is no such thing as "chosen blood". Chosen-ness is not a blood doctrine or a supremacist doctrine. It is understood to apply to all practitioners of Judaism and is meant to be a synonym for burdened, as in burdened to follow a set of laws. And I am not even talking about something that is sometimes taken out of context by practitioners....chosen-ness is simply not a doctrine that is interpreted to mean anything other than a responsibility to practice Mosaic law.
As a result, I was wondering if you could tell me where you found that graphic?
broncofan
10-09-2014, 07:50 AM
http://ziomania.com/archives/2010-09.htm
This is the site that has the graphics but strangely different people portraying the various Jews but similar "golden Jewish blood" language. According to this site, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky are both Israeli shills despite the fact that Finkelstein was not given entry to the country. Also, apparently ashkenazi Jews think they have "golden Jewish blood" but are not really Jewish. I assume this is the disputed Khazar hypothesis... a bizarre racial twist on traditional anti-semitism. It says that askhenazi Jews are central Asian converts who have usurped the Jewish religion.
When I saw that graphic, I was not surprised this would end up being the source. But since the graphic is not an exact match, maybe there is a more benign source?
broncofan
10-09-2014, 08:52 AM
http://www.ziomania.com/
Edit: alone it looks like I'm endorsing the site. Slightly more sure that graphic came from this site.
broncofan
10-10-2014, 08:20 AM
http://www.ziomania.com/ashkenazi/ashkenazi.htm
The exact graphic is on this page one third of the way down. I had to identify the very flattering and close-up photograph of Alan Dershowitz to be certain. Apparently this is a meme this site produces about how ashkenazi Jews aren't really Jewish. I knew when I first saw the graphic that it was going to be a Khazar hypothesis special.
The khazar hypothesis has gained traction in certain circles despite from what I've seen, a dearth of hard evidence supporting it. Basically the gambit is as follows: the people who claim to be Jews aren't the Jews of the bible, so it's acceptable to dislike modern Jews and still read the bible without a guilty conscience.
I've seen it used on Aryan nation sites, where of course the original Jews of the bible are Aryan. I have also seen the Khazar hypothesis used to call modern Jews (apparently not sephardic and mizrachi Jews but only ashkenazi ones because my forebears had the great fortune of living in the pale of settlement and having slightly lighter skin; I only wish I could tell them how privileged they were) "impostor Jews", where the original Jews are black.
Anyhow, the people in the video are obviously scumbags...the rally does not appear to be that widespread, although from the comments on the youtube video you'd think that racist rallies of this size or greater never take place in other countries (the people commenting seem to take a somewhat dim view of Jewish people overall; yet the only people I'm certain are Jewish are the ones wearing yarmulkes).
The Sudanese refugees that these hard-hearted individuals (as well as the Israeli government apparently) do not want to let stay in Israel are refugees from extreme violence in the Sudan. As far as I know, their refugee status does not depend on any disputed claims to Jewish heritage, so the graphic is a non-sequitur.
notdrunk
10-13-2014, 02:41 AM
Protesting about African Jews? Nope. Their protest is about Africans that are illegally in their country. The illegal immigrants could be seen as a threat to the Jewish identity of the country if unchecked. Those protesters are considered to be right wing individuals in Israel. There protest is ugly.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29122352
Illegal immigration from Africa to Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_from_Africa_to_Israel)
natina
10-15-2014, 01:53 AM
they are not racist against african jews.
they are racist against non jewish africans.
It is terrible that such a rally took place Natina. There has unfortunately been racism in Israel against African Jews.
However, I don't really understand the graphic with one Ashkenazi Jew, one Yemeni Jew and one African Jew. I was raised as a Jew though do not practice. Although I don't doubt there are some racists among Jewish people (as there are among all people) there is no such thing as "chosen blood". Chosen-ness is not a blood doctrine or a supremacist doctrine. It is understood to apply to all practitioners of Judaism and is meant to be a synonym for burdened, as in burdened to follow a set of laws. And I am not even talking about something that is sometimes taken out of context by practitioners....chosen-ness is simply not a doctrine that is interpreted to mean anything other than a responsibility to practice Mosaic law.
As a result, I was wondering if you could tell me where you found that graphic?
broncofan
10-15-2014, 03:40 AM
they are not racist against african jews.
they are racist against non jewish africans.
I think we established that in the subsequent posts. If I posted all of the videos I could find of bigoted rallies it would take up pages and pages of space. It's disturbing to be sure, but I'm never quite sure what your purpose is.
It seems to me that you don't have any interest in politics and the only threads you participate in have to do with racism against people of African and African-American background. Civil rights are important, but even when you post about that your posts usually seem directed towards recrimination and not on discussing issues in a helpful way.
I also think that the links you post are generally intended to sow discord...for instance you were upset that Jewish Israelis were involved in a hateful rally so you figured you should dredge up anything you could about Jewish people (hence the graphic). It just doesn't seem you have any interest in politics but you do dislike people from a variety of backgrounds.
broncofan
10-15-2014, 03:43 AM
By the way, the reason I thought the thread must have been about African Jews is because of the graphic you posted. It has nothing at all to do with an Israeli rally against refugees. So, I think I'm right in supposing the general purpose was demonization because you were upset by the ralliers.
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