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sunairco
09-24-2014, 05:53 PM
I've never known a woman to outright prefer or even want anal sex. From what I've read, some actually like it, but it becomes a variation from the norm and not something they prefer over vaginal/clitoral intercorse or stimulation. Otherwise it's something that's tolerated within a relationship. Yet among gay men, you encounter phrases like "need" " feeling completed", "fulfilling", and in some generalization of they were either built or wired for it. I really have no idea where this goes with heteronormative or dysphoric individuals. My guess would be most straight guys would be rather repulsed, but the minority that do enjoy anal play seem to be equally enthusiastic. I would take from this that among some biologically oriented males have a deep seated, physical and emotional need to be penetrated that goes way beyond a fetish. The word "need" abounds on the level of breathing or eating it's so fundamental. Just wondering what any of you have to throw into this and how much it impacts dysphoric individuals in particular outside of the gay community that are receptive.

smoothboi
09-24-2014, 07:54 PM
I suggest you widen your field of inquiry. There's plenty of gg that like regular anal or prefer it.

kingaddictx
09-24-2014, 07:58 PM
You are miss using the term "need" with desire. This is common in English, but they are not the same thing. A need is a necessity, something that MUST be done or had. EG: humans need to eat. we need to drink water, we need to move their bowels.

The word you are looking for is desire.

I don't think anyone NEEDS to have anal sex. But plenty of people DESIRE it.

There are gay people who don't even engage in intercource. What about total tops, who never bottom or give head. They don't NEED anal.

You entire premise is flawed from the start.

giovanni_hotel
09-25-2014, 12:54 AM
BOTTOMS are a real phenomena. Thank God.

Their prostate gland is a primary sexual organ and they need to get fucked in the ass to feel RIGHT sexually.

There's no bigger turnon than for a TS to beg you to 'fuck me in the assss!!!!'

I don't know how someone originally comes to the realization they get off on being penetrated anally but I'm so glad all bottoms know who they are and love the tops who wanna dick em down.

francisfkudrow
09-25-2014, 03:44 AM
A lot of people desire the feeling of being penetrated. For women, they have an orifice designed for just that purpose. For folks who were born male, their options are limited. So while anal sex for a woman may be unnecessary, for men and t-girls, it's the only lower-body option they have.

LadyCockLover
09-25-2014, 04:06 AM
I actually was getting it when I was in prison for a short spell, mostly from just one guy who talked me into trying it but didn't start craving it until a long time after I got out and it was never from a guy again

Ms.Stepford
09-25-2014, 07:21 AM
I dunno. I just like dicks in me.

Tapatio
09-25-2014, 07:22 AM
I dunno. I just like dicks in me.

I think I love you for that, maybe a little.

Tapatio
09-25-2014, 07:25 AM
I never wanted my ex to fuck me (though she wanted to and, frankly, I wish I'd let her) but I asked a GG to do it (strapon.)

It's something I still want- but only a really hot, femme chick.

I think it's psychological for me, more than anything else.

sunairco
09-25-2014, 06:10 PM
This is precisely the point I'm trying to make. It's not a conflation of terms to those that have the "need" It's not about desire or want. It's described in terms of physical need like breathing or eating. A sense of completeness or fulfillment to be repetative. Another thing that I've come to understand from those that speak of this in that sense is this is not about prostate stimulation. That would be from the first few inches. Their typical description is much deeper around the seminal bulb. Those that relate these feelings seem to be size queens where bigger and girth is a factor as it's usually mentioned. Some fisting and extreme toy ethusiasts also relate the same feelings as a "need". I would think to understand this contextually, one would have to understand it innately, otherwise it's an abstract. Like men can't truly understand a woman's feelings or visa versa, there appears to be a subset of feelings for some receptive males that experience this that are outside the realm of male or female consciousness. I'm hoping some of the ladies here or those that have a similar understanding can validate this observation.
You are miss using the term "need" with desire. This is common in English, but they are not the same thing. A need is a necessity, something that MUST be done or had. EG: humans need to eat. we need to drink water, we need to move their bowels.

The word you are looking for is desire.

I don't think anyone NEEDS to have anal sex. But plenty of people DESIRE it.

There are gay people who don't even engage in intercource. What about total tops, who never bottom or give head. They don't NEED anal.

You entire premise is flawed from the start.

nysprod
09-25-2014, 07:04 PM
What about total tops, who never bottom or give head.

Wait a minute...are you saying that if I never bottom but give head, I can't be considered a total top?

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09-26-2014, 02:43 AM
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In fact, the Matlocks say they were both turned on by the controversial shot, which holds the promise of more wow-worthy sex—and the risk of side effects like lower libido (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/male-sex-drive).



But does it really work? Perhaps unsurprisingly, Veronica reports "fabulous" results, saying her shot "enhanced sex big-time," including more arousal, and a heightened orgasm (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/tips-moves/how-to-have-orgasm).
But even with its high price tag and risk factor, (Dr. Matlock claims trials have returned no side effects, but not much research has been done on G-shots) don't expect a G-shot to completely revolutionize your roll in the hay. In fact, even Dr. Matlock says the ideal patient is a woman who is having pretty good sex already, and just wants to take it up a notch.
"If someone has a sexual dysfunction, a G-shot won't cure it. If a woman comes in and says, 'I just don't have vaginal orgasms,' that is perfectly normal, but the G-shot isn't right," he said.
The G-shot doesn't last forever, either. In around three to four months, the G-spot shrinks back to its natural size... and patients head back to Dr. Matlock. Veronica has already logged three shots, and counting.
Would you [I]ever consider the G-shot? Sound off in the comments.
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I've never known a woman to outright prefer or even want anal sex. From what I've read, some actually like it, but it becomes a variation from the norm and not something they prefer over vaginal/clitoral intercorse or stimulation. Otherwise it's something that's tolerated within a relationship. Yet among gay men, you encounter phrases like "need" " feeling completed", "fulfilling", and in some generalization of they were either built or wired for it. I really have no idea where this goes with heteronormative or dysphoric individuals. My guess would be most straight guys would be rather repulsed, but the minority that do enjoy anal play seem to be equally enthusiastic. I would take from this that among some biologically oriented males have a deep seated, physical and emotional need to be penetrated that goes way beyond a fetish. The word "need" abounds on the level of breathing or eating it's so fundamental. Just wondering what any of you have to throw into this and how much it impacts dysphoric individuals in particular outside of the gay community that are receptive.


http://www.drmatlock.com/MeetDrMatlock.html

giovanni_hotel
09-26-2014, 04:15 AM
Wait a minute...are you saying that if I never bottom but give head, I can't be considered a total top?

If you don't take the dick you're still a top. What's this total top bullshit??lol

MrBlonde
09-26-2014, 05:00 AM
If you don't take the dick you're still a top. What's this total top bullshit??lol


I'm probably not the right person to chime in on this since I've never done either. But in my opinion or atleast the opinion I always had I would consider a "Total" top to be someone who only takes in the situation. Like receives servicing rather than giving back. A person who is servicing with their mouth would be in the less top position so couldn't be considered a "total" top. But like I said, I don't claim to be an expert on any of this. Just a guy with preconceived notions lol. Really it matters not right?

MrBlonde
09-26-2014, 05:02 AM
If you don't take the dick you're still a top. What's this total top bullshit??lol

And like you say in your own words "if you don't take the dick". Well sucking a dick would be "taking" the dick.

fred41
09-26-2014, 05:09 AM
This from Wikipedia if it helps:



"Several related terms exist. With regard to gay male sexuality, a total top is one who assumes an exclusively penetrative role for both oral and anal sex. A total top by definition never assumes a receptive role for either oral or anal sex. A power top is one noted for their great skill or aggressiveness in topping. A service top is one who tops under the direction of an eager bottom. A versatile top is one who prefers to top but who bottoms occasionally. An oral top by definition does not engage in anal sex and is the exclusively penetrative partner during oral sex.[2] The terms penetrative partner or giver are synonyms of top created to describe the act of penetrating without implying non-egalitarian relations among participants."

Ms.Stepford
09-26-2014, 06:02 AM
Guys who don't go down are just lame.

Jesus Fuck. It's just a little dick.

giovanni_hotel
09-26-2014, 06:02 AM
' never assumes a receptive role in oral sex'?? So a total top doesn't get BJs???

Tapatio
09-26-2014, 06:08 AM
' never assumes a receptive role in oral sex'?? So a total top doesn't get BJs???

I had the same thought at first. They mean receptive as in receiving the cock, not the hummer.

Tapatio
09-26-2014, 06:10 AM
Guys who don't go down are just lame.

Jesus Fuck. It's just a little dick.

If nothing else, it's the polite thing to do.

I'm exceedingly polite.

MrBlonde
09-26-2014, 06:15 AM
This reminds me of the whole " If I am the one doing the fucking then I'm not gay thing". Now let me say I find it freakin stupid as hell but I know several different Mexican guys who were brought up taught and thinking along these lines. They believe if they are screwing another guy's ass or getting a bj from a guy they aren't doing anything gay. Only the guy taking it up the ass or in themouth is "Gay" in their opinion. I know other Mexicans who think it's just as stupid as I do. But still there are people who think along these lines. I also heard in a documentary once that there was something in ancient Greece like this. It wasn't frowned upon as long as you were the one doing the fucking or receiving the oral , but if you were the bottom in the situation then it was something to be ashamed of. I guess the Mexican guys I know gained these ideas from a long line of thinking along those lines. Just kind of interesting.

Ms.Stepford
09-26-2014, 06:51 AM
Mexican guys stand with their back bent over in an inefficient and stressful manner while picking grapes because squatting is effeminate.

It's silly.

LadyCockLover
09-26-2014, 08:57 PM
Guys who don't go down are just lame.

Jesus Fuck. It's just a little dick.

Maybe they just haven't met the right girl yet :D

Wild n Ready
05-06-2015, 03:12 AM
And like you say in your own words "if you don't take the dick". Well sucking a dick would be "taking" the dick.
I most definitely would take all of your cock in my holes

holzz
05-06-2015, 05:25 AM
need isn't meant literally...

i guess when they say need it just hits the spot for them, literally and figurately. It's like how some GGs tend to say they feel complete when getting fucked doggy, or being fingered, or from anal. it's just how human bodies are built, we're all different.

i bottom often, i won't say i need it, but i find it better than topping because of the prostate..well the whole rectum/sigmoid. so i can see where they're coming from though.

natina
05-06-2015, 05:36 AM
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