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MRTAMAX
05-10-2014, 12:38 AM
Hello, Hungangels Members



Within the past few years, Transwomen have been more included in more Mainstream News, Online Articles,
Gender Politics, scrutiny and praise than what most thought would be possible. One area in particular
that continues to receive HATE when it comes to Trans-related issues is the Porn Industry. A major
reason for this is that for years it was perceived that the Porn Industry was the only place that anyone
could find Transfolk. But, separate fantasy from reality, and that perception becomes utterely false.
However, there is something that I and perhaps some of you might find as an age old problematic trend within
the Trans-side of the Porn Industry. That trend is the PSEUDO CENSORSHIP OF SEX ACTS BETWEEN TRANSWOMEN AND
THE CAMERAMEN/CAMERAWOMEN/DIRECTORS DURING A SHOOT AND ULTIMATELY THE FINALIZED SCENES THEMSELVES.

Recently on this board, the question was asked if Nacho Vidal is still active within the Trans-side of the Porn
Industry. Which Christian XXX, responded no. But, recently Evil Angel is beginning to release scenes of
HOUSE OF SHEMALES 15, DIRECTED BY NACHO VIDAL. One of the most controversial topics about Nacho Vidal, his
attraction to Transwomen and his "off camera antics". Such as masturbating(you can he his labored breathing
and foreskin smacking, in one of his films, actually ejaculated on one of the performers) fucking them(close up
shots of the performers faces, with their bodies clearly rocking and the smacking sounds of hips meeting).
In this newest installment of his House of Shemales series, HE'S DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN EVEN THOUGH FOR YEARS
HE'S DENIED ANY ATTRACTION TO TRANSWOMEN, EVEN HE DID A THREESOME SCENE WITH HIS EX BELLADONNA WITH A TRANSWOMEN!
YET, NO ONE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY SAYS OR IS SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS!

Another example, In JOEY SILVERIA'S SHEMALE IDOL. In the scene with performer "Pang" within 1:50 of the scene
(check for yourself), Pang's face beings to be blocked out with 95% of the scene focusing on her cock.
SUCKING AND CHOKING SOUNDS CAN CLEARLY BE HEARD IN THE BACKGROUND AND IMPLY THE OBVIOUS, JOEY IS FACE FUCKING PANG,
YET WON'T SHOW IT ON CAMERA AND YET THE CAMERA IS STILL ROLLING.

People, I'm not trying to imply that the Porn Industry should be held up as the last bastion of hope for the Trans Community,
BUT, THIS CLOCK AND DAGGER BULLSHIT NEEDS TO BE CALLED AND HAS GOT TO STOP!!! Last year, Rod Daily, a performer who was hailed
as the "Crossover James Deen" became HIV positive. The entire industry came to a halt and many within in the industry were quick to blame and throw the Trans-side under the bus. Given all that has happened, transparency is key in advancement and is not key from many within
the industry. MANY OF THESE SAME CAMERAMEN/DIRECTORS WILL FOCUS ON YOUR FACE OR COCK WHILE YOU SUCK THEM, THEY SUCK YOU OR THEY FUCK YOU
AND WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS LIKE ANOTHER OUTBREAK OR SIMPLY ASKED BY FANS OF THE SCENES IN QUESTION, THEY'LL DEGRADE YOU AS FAGGOTS, FREAKS,
GAY MAFIA, STI CONTAINER, ETC AND DENY BEFORE THE WORLD THAT THEY LIKE YOU. EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND HEARING.

I AM INTERESTED IN READING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS CONCERNING THIS ISSUE, ESPECIALLY THE TRANSPERFORMERS WHO MEMBERS OF HUNGANGELS.
IN MY OPINION IS THESE ACTION ARE PURE EXPLOITATION OF THE PERFORMERS AND OF THE TRANS SIDE OF PORN INDUSTRY THAT FURTHER PERPETUATES
THE STIGMA THAT TRANSPERFOMERS ARE FREAKS AND NOT WORTH ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WHEN THEY CLEARLY WANT TO FUCK Y'ALL.

IF THESE GUYS WANTED TO KEEP THEIR SEX ACTS WITH THEIR TALENT A SECRET, THEN WHY IS THE CAMERA STILL RUNNING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WHY FILM HALF A SCENE WITH POTENTIALLY DAMNING EVIDENCE?

WHY DON'T THEY JUST STOP THE CAMERA, HAVE SEX AND RESCHEDULE THE ORIGINALLY
INTENDED SHOOT?

WHY DON'T THEY ADMIT THE OBVIOUS WHEN THEIR IS OBVIOUSLY ENOUGH EVIDENCE?

WHY DO THEY STILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS?

WHY AREN'T TRANSPERFORMERS CALLING THESE GUYS OUT?

IF I WERE A TRANSPERFOMER AND THE CAMERAMAN WANTED A BLOWJOB, BUT DIDN'T HAVE A RECENT STI TEST, MODEL RELEASE FOR HIMSELF,
AND WAS WILLING TO SHOW IT ON CAMERA, THEN HELL NO! YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HIDE GETTING A NUT FROM ME AND RELEASE THE SCENE WITH
SHODDY CAMERA ANGLES, HIDING YOUR ATTRACTION!


SORRY TO BE SO LONG, BUT AT THIS POINT IS JUST RIDICULOUS EXPLOITATION.
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL.

dderek123
05-10-2014, 01:42 AM
The abuse of the caps lock key needs to stop as well.

sukumvit boy
05-10-2014, 04:07 AM
I remember the scenes you mentioned ,and found them very hot .
As to the exploitative behavior of crew you mentioned , reputable companies need to insist on a Zero Tolerance policy.

maxpower
05-10-2014, 04:27 AM
Is there a "P" missing from your name?

dderek123
05-10-2014, 05:37 AM
Is there a "P" missing from your name?

lol

MRTAMPAX

MRTAMAX
05-10-2014, 06:05 AM
I remember the scenes you mentioned ,and found them very hot .
As to the exploitative behavior of crew you mentioned , reputable companies need to insist on a Zero Tolerance policy.
Thank you for actually answering my question.
I appreciate it.
As erotic as they may be for some, bizarre it is for others. Like I said, they'll stretch the camera out to focus on another body part to get their "covert nut" and then call them Faggots with Tits in public or while discussing business with executives. If they wanted this to be a secret, why is the camera still on?
I wholeheartedly agree with your "Zero Tolerance Policy" solution. If its not in the script, consensual and all out in the open as it pertains to the job, don't do it or allow it. Just read the interviews from the producers/directors from Porn's Golden Age. This
shit doesn't always end up on the cutting room floor or being deleted. 7 times out of 10, someone is stealing the original uncut version and these versions usually feature
things that can be used for extortion purposes. Like sexual favors to be one particular dvd, interracial, and of course unnecessary bareback.
Keep it coming (no pun intended), I'm really interested in your answers or
are people going to continue joking about the obvious pun in my Username?

rodinuk
05-10-2014, 10:27 AM
... or are people going to continue joking about the obvious pun in my Username?

They may well do ... presumably you did a risk assessment before you chose it though :geek:

stan.smith
05-10-2014, 10:43 AM
This is always gonna continue so as long as there is a demand for TS porn. Generally most people don't care about who's behind the camera or whats going on behind the camera they just care about whats going on in FRONT of it. although i do agree there has been quite a few of those going around even during early she male yum shoots the camera man would just whip his cock out and put it in the performers mouth. Nacho on the other hand I truly don't get. I love all his work (Str8 and TS) and he is a great performer himself. He masturbates with she males, has threesomes with them and yet never does a one on one with them nor shows any activity involving TS performers. To the OP i don't recall where he humps the performer but i think i know who u were talking about when he ejaculates , was it the Kalena Rios scene because he says he's gonna cum then focuses right on her lips for 10-15 sec.

GroobySteven
05-10-2014, 02:51 PM
Who the fuck cares. You've a bee in your bonnet about nothing.

dderek123
05-10-2014, 03:14 PM
It's that time of the month for Mr. Tampax.

MRTAMAX
05-10-2014, 05:38 PM
Thanks for your response.

MRTAMAX
05-10-2014, 05:41 PM
Who the fuck cares. You've a bee in your bonnet about nothing.
No, it isn't. Just wanted to know the truth considering everything thats
happening in the business

But, given the response that YOU of all people have given me
then, perhaps I have my answer.

wearboots4me
05-10-2014, 07:27 PM
I remember the scenes you mentioned ,and found them very hot .
As to the exploitative behavior of crew you mentioned , reputable companies need to insist on a Zero Tolerance policy.

Yes, no one should be exploited just because they work in porn. But if the girl consents to sex with the camera person beforehand I think that's alright.

MRTAMAX
05-10-2014, 08:51 PM
Yes, no one should be exploited just because they work in porn. But if the girl consents to sex with the camera person beforehand I think that's alright.
Thanks for your response.
As long as everything is consensual, I agree. It's just that no one
addresses this obvious "activity" on purpose. Then, the performers will
advocate for safety, honesty and transparency. All the while, the same dudes
who they pseudo-fuck the trans performers in a scene will lobby to the State/Federal Government for State-mandated Sex-Safety Procedures while screaming "Faggot". And the Trans performers continue shoot as well as praise these people, not to mention the "straight side" of the industry still employes these guys.

MRTAMAX
05-10-2014, 09:02 PM
In Fact:
Just look at the recent Nacho Vidal post by @want2gape cd for today:
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=718563&stc=1&d=1399738543

Nacho not only denies his attraction to Transwomen, but fucks them bareback( as you can clearly see),while advocating for Compulsory Condom Usage!

http://www.mycondom.co.uk/condom-news/spanish-porn-star-supports-condom-use-law

http://www.xbiz.com/news/163628

http://muckrack.com/link/vlQL/performerdirector-nacho-vidal-pushing-condom-only-law-in-spain

Problematic, doesn't even describe this.

dderek123
05-11-2014, 04:24 AM
Seems like a lot of speculation. Is that you Franklin??

Also, when I read posts that abuse the caps lock key I imagine it being spoken out loud by a sassy black woman. It's really entertaining.

http://i.imgur.com/rBQHJhC.gif

dakota87
05-11-2014, 04:39 AM
Down Low Camermen. Would be a great movie title and plot line.

SmithXXX
05-11-2014, 06:29 AM
Seriously? Why do you care if the camera man gets a blowjob? Are you anti POV? How do you know the cameraman isn't tested? Some fans like POV shoots some don't. It's not exploitation if the model accepts the cock in her mouth. How do you know the model didn't ask to suck the camera man? Seriously relax porn cop

MRTAMAX
05-11-2014, 10:29 AM
Seriously? Why do you care if the camera man gets a blowjob? Are you anti POV? How do you know the cameraman isn't tested? Some fans like POV shoots some don't. It's not exploitation if the model accepts the cock in her mouth. How do you know the model didn't ask to suck the camera man? Seriously relax porn cop
The unprotected penis of a dude they just met THAT day in most cases?
@SmithXXX, you know what the strange part is, I've recently found a reason to agree.
Ok, in the short time that I've posted a legitimate question about about glaring issue
IN porn in general, responses have ranged from sensible to emotional. Who know that caps for point emphasize and paragraph length would cause such panic attacks. But, in today's world, should I really be surprised.
Only a few
the thread have been respectful, answered my question and have engaged in dialogue with.
Especially, from Grooby and SmithXXX.
Why you two gave the emotional and sarcastic responses you did as people of your experience, further pepuates the stigmas surrounding Sex Workers in Porn Industry.
Not to mention the things that people say about this forum.
But, my question was recently answered by someone who's an authority on the matter:
http://tobitastic.tumblr.com/post/85366781096/given-youre-experience-in-the-mainstream-industry-can

So, for everyone got offended, caught feelings, or felt some type of way, you all can consider the matter closed.

And Happy Mother's Day.

hada
05-11-2014, 10:38 AM
disgusting

rodinuk
05-11-2014, 12:17 PM
...Who know that caps for point emphasize and paragraph length would cause such panic attacks. But, in today's world, should I really be surprised....So, for everyone got offended, caught feelings, or felt some type of way, you all can consider the matter closed...And Happy Mother's Day.

Man up and grow a pair:violin

GroobySteven
05-11-2014, 06:15 PM
Mr Tampax has been banned. I don't believe he is here as a fan of transgender people and erotica and his rants and speculations are irritating.

I'll leave his posts up so I can't be accused of removing anything other than what it is - a boring rant from someone who clearly knows nothing about the adult industry and has an issue (jealousy or otherwise) with that industry. I'm not afraid of answering or tackling difficult subjects (in fact his subject has been covered plenty times before) - but I'm also not allowing this forum to become a soapbox for any old twat who wants to use it to their own ends.

Odelay
05-11-2014, 06:23 PM
Discarded like a bloody tampax. Pretty funny thread, actually.

wearboots4me
05-11-2014, 07:20 PM
Interesting thread. I have always had a fantasy of being one of those cameramen just like what he describes. (Relax people, it's just a fantasy not a mission statement.) I don't see myself ever doing it, as making movies is not my area of expertise. That being said, I don't think anyone deserves to be sexually harassed just because they are an adult actress. (or actor)

GroobySteven
05-11-2014, 09:13 PM
Interesting thread. I have always had a fantasy of being one of those cameramen just like what he describes. (Relax people, it's just a fantasy not a mission statement.) I don't see myself ever doing it, as making movies is not my area of expertise. That being said, I don't think anyone deserves to be sexually harassed just because they are an adult actress. (or actor)

Absolutely. And a camera person doesn't deserve to be sexually harassed either!

itspapitoyu
05-11-2014, 09:34 PM
If I was a camera man I'll just get in the scene from the beginning and not fake it. I think most of them are into ts anyway or they probably wouldnt be filming it.

dderek123
05-12-2014, 05:46 AM
Mr Tampax has been banned. I don't believe he is here as a fan of transgender people and erotica and his rants and speculations are irritating.

I'll leave his posts up so I can't be accused of removing anything other than what it is - a boring rant from someone who clearly knows nothing about the adult industry and has an issue (jealousy or otherwise) with that industry. I'm not afraid of answering or tackling difficult subjects (in fact his subject has been covered plenty times before) - but I'm also not allowing this forum to become a soapbox for any old twat who wants to use it to their own ends.
Good riddance. He was a speculative complainer through and through.

sigsleep
06-19-2014, 01:33 AM
well to the persons credit, im noe looking for scenes where silvera and nacho try to ninja fuck the girls

youngblood61
06-19-2014, 01:55 AM
I always thought POV vids are hot. I would think if a Cameraman is getting a BJ or some ass the girl he is filming probably wanted too do it.

TSPornFan
06-19-2014, 02:30 AM
POV looks good and works very well when the T-Girl is the bottom. However, there is an idiot at Kink who thinks POV works when the guy is the bottom. WRONG.

stan.smith
06-19-2014, 06:45 AM
There was absolutely no reason to ban him especially for "expressing his thoughts " on the subject.