Would you go to Brazil or Thailand for a sextour?

[suckseed]

I've been doing a little searching of the threads here from people with experience in these countries. Based on the considerations of beauty, quality of experience, attitude of the girls, and safety for the customer, and whatthehell let's throw in travel/provider costs, where would you go? Feel free to throw in another country from these continents. (Argentina? Phillipines? Japan?)

[MacShreach]

I've been doing a little searching of the threads here from people with experience in these countries. Based on the considerations of beauty, quality of experience, attitude of the girls, and safety for the customer, and whatthehell let's throw in travel/provider costs, where would you go? Feel free to throw in another country from these continents. (Argentina? Phillipines? Japan?)

Hm, Brazil for sure, Argentina as well-- they're next door to each other anyway and it's a relatively short flight from SP down to BA......... I have travelled in Latin America before and I'd like to go back anyway. So yes.

My Spanish is rusty but I'd be okay and in Brazil you can get just about away with speaking Spanish....I mean, they'll understand you all right, but they'll reply in Portuguese, and you won't get a single word at first. I find Brazilian Portuguese much easier to follow than the European variety anyway. The Phillipines interest me and so does Thailand, but I have no Thai and I believe most people in the PI speak either English or Spanish......I don't know if you have ever travelled alone, without "tour" support, but the stress levels can be high and they go right off the scale if you really don't speak any of the language at all.

There was a guy doing shemale sex package tours to SP from the States, but he seems to have gone out of business. I wonder what happened-- it seemed like a good idea.

[GroobySteven]

Travelled to both extensively.

Brazil:
Pros: Hot women and trannies who are into everything and anything. Relatively decent prices.
Cons: Brazil is dangerous even for seasoned travellers, hard to get around especially to meet trannies, very few English speakers, most hotels don't let you bring trannies back so extra expense for shorttime or sex hotels.

Thailand:
Pros: Hot women and ladyboys who are into most things. Not as "nasty" as the Brazilians but for the main, very hot. Cheap prices. Almost all hotels let you have guests back, cheap and tourist orientated (most speak some English), you can go to another area (Phuket, Pattaya, Ko Samui, Chiang Mai, etc) for a change of location, all bars/clubs within walking distance of hotel. Very safe.

Cons: Only Asians so if they're not your type then it's not worth going, it's a long flight from the US.


I'd take Thailand over Brazil any day if that's what I was going for.
seanchai

[scorpion]

Mee and a friend going to Brasil in Juli. Wee have get some contact there. i realy see forward to it.
Maybee if have time over wee going a short wisit to Florida.

[Ecstatic]

Thailand is my next major destination, perhaps within a year or so, and not just for the LB's. The country, culture, history and all fascinate me. I want to spend at least a month immersing myself in several locations: BKK for the sheer experience, but more so Phuket, Pattaya, and Chiang Mai.

[popperluv]

What about Agrentina ? Anyone been?

[ian]

Travelled to both extensively.

Brazil:
Pros: Hot women and trannies who are into everything and anything. Relatively decent prices.
Cons: Brazil is dangerous even for seasoned travellers, hard to get around especially to meet trannies, very few English speakers, most hotels don't let you bring trannies back so extra expense for shorttime or sex hotels.

Thailand:
Pros: Hot women and ladyboys who are into most things. Not as "nasty" as the Brazilians but for the main, very hot. Cheap prices. Almost all hotels let you have guests back, cheap and tourist orientated (most speak some English), you can go to another area (Phuket, Pattaya, Ko Samui, Chiang Mai, etc) for a change of location, all bars/clubs within walking distance of hotel. Very safe.

Cons: Only Asians so if they're not your type then it's not worth going, it's a long flight from the US.


I'd take Thailand over Brazil any day if that's what I was going for.
seanchai

Hi seanchai

In regards to Thailand. What is Bangkok like? Isn't there a number of establishments in the Nana Plaza?

Where you you rather go, out the areas you mentioned and Bangkok?

Cheers

Ian

[BeardedOne]

Cons: Brazil is dangerous even for seasoned travellers,...

Hearing first-hand accounts of Sao Palo (Sp?) from bankers and chemical managers I have known has really put me off the possibility of travelling there.

Let's not forget the recent gang/police warfare that has offed more than 200 victims (Most of them police/official). :shock:


...most hotels don't let you bring trannies back so extra expense for shorttime or sex hotels.

This cinches it. :P It is not so much the sex (Which is, no lie, a big thing) as it is the experience of the 'date'. If I can't bring the gurl back to the hotel for a nice dinner and quiet evening 'at home' (As it were), it doesn't work for me.


Cons: Only Asians so if they're not your type then it's not worth going, it's a long flight from the US.

OK, so I suffer a bit of jet lag and airline-food-stomach-disorder. No biggie. :) "The Wife" (A title, not a relationship) went to Thailand a couple of years ago and came back with nothing but nice things to say (And she is a serious travel-diva). She also said that she was soooooo impressed with the ladyboys she saw there...But we won't go there. :wink:

So, given the choices of a long flight versus potential death by kinfing, shooting, or just plain nighttime rudeness, I'd vote for Thailand.

[GroobySteven]

For me - Bangkok is the best place to go as I don't like beaches.
Great bars - choiec of 4 ladyboy bars in Nana Plaza and 1 (+1 of mainly post-ops) in Patpong.
World class restaurants, sports on TV, great Thai food, good cigar stores and bars, coffeeshops and movie theatres amongst the culture.
seanchai

[PlayfulJohn]

Phuket is also a hot spot. Asian ladyboys are very often gorgeous and submissive. perfect!

[suckseed]

You guys have sold me on Thailand. Plus the Thai gg's I've met are lovely and sweet. My best friend married a Thai, and said of his trip that the people there are wonderful.
So....what would, say, a week there cost? I could google up airfare, but since we're here....and what's a typical day's room and board?

[GroobySteven]

Your first $25 should be spent on a month on ladyboy-ladyboy.com where you'll find guides, email addresses of many models, phone numbers and loads of advice on hotels, restaurants, bars and safety.
After airfare:
Cheaper hotels around $25 a night (A/C, TV, nice enough rooms). Marriotts and such around $100 a night.
Food - lunch around $5 - dine can go $5-$20.
Drinks in bars. $2.50-$3.50
Barfine for lady (to take her out of bar) - $15-$18.
Shorttime (1 hr or so in your room) - $30 or so
Lopngtime (a few hours or all night) $60-$75.

You can go cheaper - you can go more expensive.
seanchai

[Trogdor]

Well, any good ones in Japan? I am planning to meet a cool GG there, ( 100% japanese blood ,but born and raised in hawaii ) And if it don't go as good as I hope, I could meet the nice TG's there, if any.

So any info on the land of the rising sun? :D

[suckseed]

Your first $25 should be spent on a month on ladyboy-ladyboy.com where you'll find guides, email addresses of many models, phone numbers and loads of advice on hotels, restaurants, bars and safety.
After airfare:
Cheaper hotels around $25 a night (A/C, TV, nice enough rooms). Marriotts and such around $100 a night.
Food - lunch around $5 - dine can go $5-$20.
Drinks in bars. $2.50-$3.50
Barfine for lady (to take her out of bar) - $15-$18.
Shorttime (1 hr or so in your room) - $30 or so
Lopngtime (a few hours or all night) $60-$75.

You can go cheaper - you can go more expensive.
seanchai
Thank you. I didn't know that the site had more than pics and videos (but I haven't joined a porn site in a long time...kinda got into dvds.) Well, those prices are of course great. Somehow I got the impression they were even lower - from an old article I read about Bangcock in Rolling Stone. I remember particularly that it said that it was 'perfectly acceptable to spend the night with a prostitute and pay him/her with a t-shirt.'
Do you think that seeing escorts is exploiting them? I don't like the idea of hurting anyone. Of course I would be respectful and not begrudge someone's price. I know this is another topic entirely but what can I say, we're talking about this.

[DJ_Asia]

I think choosing Thailand over Brasil is wise.Ive been to Sao Paulo and without a multi lingual guide who is also a TS photographer I wouldve been completely lost.

Im writing this from Bangkok,and while I personally prefer the variety of women in Brasil to the Thai girls,BKK is just easy and simple to get around and meet girls....not to mention a pretty safe place to be.

NANA has 4 ladyboy bars,Obsessions on first floor is mostly smallish petite hormone girls but is a pretty cool place to start.

Casanova more siliconed bigger showgirl types,Temptations,a newer bar with not much to choose from both on 2nd floor

Cascade..a nice mix of both types on 3rd floor.

In Patpong you have KC3 which used to be my fav model hunting ground,but has been overrun lately w/ postops and younger boyish types..still occasionally you will see Nat or Kwan there,,2 of BKK's finest.

My site www.worldwideshemale.com has pics and vids of all my models,plus email and phone numbers to call the girl of your choice directly.

Living in Thailand fulltime I get the up to the minute girls and if worse comes to worse u can always PM me if you need advice on a specific model.

Word of advice....stick to the bar girls.The street girls can be a bit dicey,....many stories of guys being drugged,robbed and even murdered by girls....chances are you wont have any problem with a street girl,but the bar girls typically are your safest bet.

And no youre not hurting or exploiting the girls,however if you tried to pay a girl with a t-shirt you would probably be kicked in the balls..2000-3000 baht for a fullnight is a respectful amount to pay,and if you meet a girl you really like they of course love to go shopping too....its a different culture and a different way of lifeover here.....enjoy your trip.

DJ Asia

[cochi]

DJ-Asia, just one question.
In which bar does Mint work? I mean Mint the famous ladyboy with big cock who few years ago had been working in Phuket.
In Phuket I recommend the lb's bar "Cocktail and Dreams", a nice place where to meet many ladyboys.

[MacShreach]

I think choosing Thailand over Brasil is wise.Ive been to Sao Paulo and without a multi lingual guide who is also a TS photographer I wouldve been completely lost. <snip>

DJ Asia

Brasil is not easy if you don't have some Brazilian Portuguese or at least reasonable Spanish and are a damn quick learner. Better be an experienced traveller in fairly scary areas as well, and DO NOT be in a hurry. There are clearly dangers for the unwary in a big non-tourist city like SP, and it's over a decade since I was there, so it might be worse now, but most violence was not directed at foreigners. I personally didn't meet any other foreigner who'd had serious issues that way, though being ripped off was a common complaint. I have one friend who lived in Brasil for over 10 years and he never had any trouble. Low-level harassment and annoyance, but no trouble.

I have personally felt MUCH MUCH more threatened in other parts of the world than I ever did anywhere in South America, but that's my personal experience. Your mileage may vary, and you norteamericanos really ought to mind your p's and q's while you're there. Europeans are looked at with more sympathy, but you'll still get ripped off. With a smile. Me I'd go back to Brasil and am planning to but for the casual tourist, I would not recommend SP.

In Brasil Rio is much more relaxed and friendly. In Argentina I did like Buenos Aires. And I really liked Uruguay... Montevideo is a great town. But I don't know what the tranny scene is like there, I wasn't looking.

[houstonshemalefan]

Senachi, you forgot to mention that Thialand is an HIV/AIDS hotspot to the extent of various African countries.

I've been to Sao Paulo and had zero problems with any of the shemales I met there and brought up to my 5-star hotel. The only con is that Sao Paulo is not a tourist city with "other" attractions so visiting for the shemales is pretty much all you'll get.

[DJ_Asia]

DJ-Asia, just one question.
In which bar does Mint work? I mean Mint the famous ladyboy with big cock who few years ago had been working in Phuket.
In Phuket I recommend the lb's bar "Cocktail and Dreams", a nice place where to meet many ladyboys.

Well there are 2 girls that cause much confusion both are hung like horses,both from Phuket...Mint and Ming.

Ming is featured heavily on my site and is a very cool girl,splitting her time between Phuket and BKK...not currently working any bars.

Mint..the one shown alot on this site doesnt work in a bar either...she does webcam and is really kinda scrawny and unattractive in person

[BeardedOne]

Some time ago I wanted to get myself down to Brasil for business purposes (I believed they still had some of Mr. Huntington's trains down there and I wanted them back!), but in later years (Early '90's) I started hearing horror stories direct from the mouths of those that lived them, execs and middle management of a handful of the Fortune 500 and some of the northeast banks. When one of them showed me the scar on his neck from when he was being a good Samaritan in Sao Paolo (Helping a fellow change a tire, when the fellow's accomplice came up and slit the man's throat for his wallet - Had his wife not been in the nearby car, he surely would have died from the attack), I cancelled my plans to vizzit Brasil. Ever. :(

OTOH, having spent some time in the company of a member of the Thai royal family (A distant, perhaps the three-digit range, member) I got a small feel for the culture and attitude of the country. A couple of years back, "The Wife" (A title, not a relationship) made a trip to Thailand and toured some of the countryside while there. Aside from an embarrassing mishap in a rice patty ( :lol: ), she spoke highly of the entire trip, the country, and its people.

If I can ever get my shit together to where I can =GO= someplace, Thailand is on my list and I'll certainly follow DJ's advice and ping some of the sites for contact info in advance. Mint, Ming, Nancy (Have I left anyone out?), watch out! :wink:

[GroobySteven]

Senachi, you forgot to mention that Thialand is an HIV/AIDS hotspot to the extent of various African countries.

I've been to Sao Paulo and had zero problems with any of the shemales I met there and brought up to my 5-star hotel. The only con is that Sao Paulo is not a tourist city with "other" attractions so visiting for the shemales is pretty much all you'll get.

Well as it's a given that AIDS is rife among both sex workers in Brazil and Thailand I thought that was a given and couldn't imagine anybody going there and not covering up.
Personally, I've known of more Brazilian TS's who've died of AIDS than ones in Thailand who seem better educated on it and less likely to take the risks.
It sounds more like you work for the Brazilian tourist board than giving out useful advice?
seanchai

[GroobySteven]

Don't get too caught up in having to visit Mint, Ming or Mong or any other girls you see on this site, DJ's site or ladyboy-ladyboy.com - invariably you can be dissapointed and there are literally 100's of girls to meet who you may be able to make a better connection with and discover your own Rogue Adventure instead of following someone elses.
seanchai

[suckseed]

Not mentioned yet is Italy. I don't know much (bi-o-lo-gy...) about it, but have gotten the impression that there are many beautiful girls there....plus the sights. Anyone with some first hand knowledge? websites?
Patricia Araujo was the girl that sunk the hook in deep for me. I know her nose and boobs need some TLC, but ...c'mon...a stunner. I remember working in a video lab many years ago, a guy brought in a handycam tape he wanted dubbed to VHS. He and a friend had spent an hour at a sidewalk bistro filming the women go by, and it was just ridiculous...a non-stop parade of exquisite women. BTW, I think Araujo just lives there...isn't she South American?

[Akim]

Phuket, Thailand, is the best place to meet ladyboys for me. It's a holiday island, you can do some sightseeing and you have marvelous beaches. Bangkok is a polluted city and Pattaya is the worst place i know, cheap, ugly, ordinary, ....
In phuket you go to the center of patong beach, there are 2 ladyboy bars with about 30-50 ladyboys and there are more in the streets, other bars, restaurants.... Just sit there and watch them, talk to them and you will find out, which one is good for you tonight.
There is absolutely no need to make any prearrangement with a ladyboy you have seen in the net. Do you want to fuck a picture, a phantasy or a real ladyboy? A prearrangement shows, that you are a greenhorn, who is carrying sand to the beach. Just sit there with a drink and relax. Its so easy. Thais love relaxed people.

[Ecstatic]

Senachi, you forgot to mention that Thialand is an HIV/AIDS hotspot to the extent of various African countries.
Not a fair comparison, as Thailand has made major strides in combating HIV/AIDS compared with many other nations. Here's some info:

There are very few developing countries in the world where public policy has been effective in preventing the spread of HIV/AIDS on a national scale, but Thailand is an exception. A massive programme to control HIV has reduced visits to commercial sex workers by half, raised condom usage, decreased STDs (Sexually Transmitted Diseases) dramatically, and achieved substantial reductions in new HIV infections.1

Thailand, though, is also a reminder that success can be relative. Its well funded, politically supported and comprehensive prevention programmes have saved millions of lives, reducing the number of new HIV infections from 140,000 in 1991 to 21,000 in 2003. Nonetheless, more than one-in-100 Thai adults in this country of 65 million people is infected with HIV, and AIDS has become a leading cause of death.2, 3

[source: http://www.avert.org/aidsthai.htm]

Thailand achieves sustained reduction in HIV infection rates
In Thailand, government determination to enforce 100% condom use in brothels and to ensure wide access to HIV prevention campaigns through schools, the mass media, and the workplace have been key factors in lowering HIV infection rates. The broad-based campaign has led to an increase in condom use, a reduction in visits to sex workers, and a dramatic reduction in HIV infection rates.

A sustained and dramatic reduction in infection rates for HIV and other sexually transmitted infections has been achieved in Thailand over the past decade through government efforts to promote safe sex. From the early 1990s, the government worked in collaboration with brothel owners to ensure that the commercial sex industry did not become the main engine for a nationwide epidemic of HIV/AIDS.

As a result, Thai men are today far less likely to visit sex workers. And those who do are more likely to use condoms. Meanwhile, condom use has also increased both among young people and in the general population.
[source: http://www.who.int/inf-new/aids1.htm]

[BeardedOne]

On the HIV/AIDS debate:

Funny thing....That little virus can't read a map. :evil:

[Ecstatic]

True, and the scene in Thailand is not rosey, but it is impressive how much ground they've gained in the past few years, compared to other hot spots like Africa and Brazil. But I am glad that the Thai girls I know and love live here in the US and practice safe sex.

[tgirloverct]

I'm just getting back from Brazil about a month or so ago. I don't know much about Thai, and I am taking in all the feedback from the seasoned veterans and more experienced like Senchai and others, but I can give you some recent feedback for Brazil. Senchai can verify as I must have e-mailed him a few times while I was there for some info,,LOL,,
First, Brazil in my opinion have the most beautiful and exotic women in the world, both GG's and TS. Rio has many beautiful TS, and they are all over the place, but it's not what you think. There are no TS clubs or spas that feature TS girls. They are looked at as kind of an outcast in society. So, if your main objective is to go have sex and meet lots TS in Rio, and spend time with them, your best bet is not to get a hotel, but to rent an apartment, somewhere preferably along the Copacabana beach. It's just as cheap or cheaper than a hotel, and you get more bang for your buck, literally. The hotels are very strict on asking the girls for thier "documents", and if they don't have them, they dont let them in. That goes for GG's especially, and most hotels wont even think about letting a TS go upsatirs with you.
There is a strip along the Copa where they hang out. They are really the lowest of the streetgirls, some of them look good, but they are all about getting high, rushing, and you can see where they are out there 24/7 and not really taking care of themselves. Some of them are mean and viscous too. They are always arguing and fighting, sometimes with each other, or with guys who are watching thier back. It's kind of crazy, but amusing too. If you hang out around there long enough, you'll see quite a few that come through or get dropped off that will make your heart pound, but they are few and far between in that area. Your best bet is to find a cab driver that speaks a little english, and if your portugese is in tact, that's even better. Make sure you take care of him well, and have him bring you over in the Flamingo area. They are street girls as well, but they are fine as hell, and look like anyone of them can be in the videos or on Brazillian T-girls, Black T-girls, etc. I could've sworn I seen a couple of girls from the sites. They walk around, or sit on a few cars with thier lingerie, short shorts, panties and bras, whatever. Oh my goodness, it's unbelievable. You can actually see buldges and the whole works. I remember one girl sitting on the car with a long coat or robe on and her legs wide open, I can still see that big buldge and her balls hanging out the side. She was beautiful as hell too, with light blonde hairs going up her belly. Stunning. That is the spot. I had the cabbie pull over and we both stood out and smoked cigarettes for a while, and I got to watch a show of these girls walkng around and going up to cars. I ended up taking a stunner back to the apartment that night, and had the same cabbie bring her back once we were finished. You've go to take care of those cabbies.
I personally went for more GG's then anything, and picked and choosed my spots with the TS. So all of my experience were good, except for one TS that I got late one night off the Copa strip. She wouldn't leave the room until I gave her a 100 more dollars, and she wasn't that good.
The prices are around 200 reais for the girls at the Flamingo, and you can get one off the Copa strip for around 50 to 100. If you are staying in a hotel, there's a "love motel" right there around the Flamingo for about 60 reais.
The american dollar isn't good over there right now, it's only 2 to 1. So, if you pay them 200 reais, you are actually paying 100 dollars. Some of the porno stars and the girls you see on the sights want up to 3000 reais, especially if you don't speak english. Not worth it with all the other beauties around. You just have to be patient, and not act or seem desperate.
also, one other bit of info. If you walk around long enough in some of the neighborhoods, or have a cab driver take you too some spots outside of the tourist areas, there's girls that you wont see around the Flamingo or on the strip, but they are willing as well, and some of them are very pretty at a really unbeleiveble price.
You really can't go wrong if you play your cards right. You don't really have to worry about Issues like YMMV etc, they are freaks and aim to please. The'll do any and everything.
One other thing, I went up to Salvadore Bahia for a few days. They don't have TS running around all over the place, but they are not hard to find, and if you like darker t-girls, that's the place to go. I didin't mess with any while I was there, too many fine ass GG's all over the place, but again, if you like that dark-skinned sexy TS look (like Gracie and Kayla on black T-girls) Salvadore isn't a bad place to go. It's extremely cheap as well.
If you want other info on other shit like clubs, spas and shit like that, hit me up.

[DJ_Asia]

someone mentioed Italy..yeah lots of beauties there...97% Brasilian or Argentinian charging 4 times what they charge back home...

AIDS..yup here,there...everywhere...imagine that.

Tons of girls here in Thailand,and as soon as u walk into a bar,you will be swarmed with dozens of girls grabbing your cock making you all types of promises and offering everything.Try to maintain your composure and wait it out and soon you will find a cool girl.Ive shot hundreds of girls here and can count on 2 hands how many I actually enjoy hanging out with,which isnt to say that there arent many fun to be with,but I prefer a girl I can talk to and enjoy time outside of the bedroom as well.

Literally you will see ladyboys everywhere,shopping malls,working makeup counters,Starbucks,walking down the street,Skytrain...everywhere.Its easy and alot of fun esp. if youve never been before.

On the other hand the Brasilians are just so damn hot,and wilder then their Thai counterparts,but again you have to consider language barriers,cuz they speak zero English,and they tend to be spread out all over S.P,and in some pretty crappy areas. I personally didnt have any problems down there,but my host was an English speaking Brasilian TS photographer who knew the girls and where to find them.
To give you an idea of the scene down in Brasil,my host took me down a street known as "Jack Off Street" where the girls would stand on the street in fur coats,stockings and heels...with nothing else on and as you drove past they would jack off for you,talking dirty in hopes you would stop and pick em up! If I didnt see it for myself I wouldnt believe it.

DJ Asia

[houstonshemalefan]

It sounds more like you work for the Brazilian tourist board than giving out useful advice?
seanchai

Seanchai, you're full of shit, you know that? Why do you think Thailand is trying so hard to reduce HIV/AIDS with all their programs? It's because, other than Africa, it is 10x worse there than in other areas of the world.

I applaud them taking steps to correct their problems as every country, including Brazil, should.

The bottom line is I prefer the Brazilian looking girls and have had hot times with both Rafaella Carneiro and Miriany Ribero and had ZERO problems getting them to come to my hotel. The price was 150 reias + cab fare for Miriany, and $200 reiais + cab fare for Rafaella, still great deals by US Dollar standards.

It seems to me that these girls start harmones at an early age and are truly feminine by their late teens.

It looks like YOU are Thailand's #1 tourist guide! ;)

[MacShreach]

<snip>
To give you an idea of the scene down in Brasil,my host took me down a street known as "Jack Off Street" where the girls would stand on the street in fur coats,stockings and heels...with nothing else on and as you drove past they would jack off for you,talking dirty in hopes you would stop and pick em up! If I didnt see it for myself I wouldnt believe it.

DJ Asia

LMFAO That's Brasil.........


There used to be a lot of Brasilian trannies in Paris and they hung about the Bois de Boulogne at night. They'd be dressed like that, open coat, stockings and high-heels, that was all, playing with it to keep it hard and when you drove past they'd wave it about and talk dirty. There'd be a couple of them or maybe more at each traffic light and they'd come and rub their backsides against the car windows when you stopped and stick their cocks in the windows if they were open.......I mean if the car doors weren't locked they'd just get right in anyway without waiting for you to ask. Like you the first time I saw it I just could not believe what was going on. I was literally speechless, they were so outrageous. My Parisian pal thought it was hilarious (he was the one got me into this shit...)

I remember one night we were pretty drunk and we drove through the Bois. He just kept stopping and letting them come up so they'd stick their dicks in the windows for us to play with, give it a couple of minutes and then hit the gas and on to the next bunch, laughing his crazy French head off while they yelled at him, standing in the middle of the road with their cocks out. Fucking incredible.

Also they used to take care of business in the fucking phone boxes (I choose my words with care) which was why you could never find a phone box in the Bois with a light that still worked........

Then that bastard Chirac threw them all out :cry: I hear there's a lot more again now but man, back then Paris was wild for t-girls, mostly Brasilians too.

God DJ you brought back memories with that, man. :P

[houstonshemalefan]

Increadible! I could only imagine how many she-cocks I could suck on one street in one night! lol!!!

[tgirloverct]

One day I was sitting in the area of the Copa strip where the girls hang out, and I looked up and saw this tall, long-haired fine ass t-girl walking in the street along the cars. She was wearing nothing but a thong and a bikini top, and her cock was bouncing everytime she took a step. The tip of it was almost protruding out of the top side,,and it wasn't even hard. It was unbelievable. I ran and caught up with her and tried to get her, but she was moving pretty quick, and just as I got her to stop to talk, a car pulled up and she jumped in with him. Damn, needless to say, I kept looking for her again the whole time I was there.

[tommytuu]

someone mentioed Italy..yeah lots of beauties there...97% Brasilian or Argentinian charging 4 times what they charge back home...

AIDS..yup here,there...everywhere...imagine that.

Tons of girls here in Thailand,and as soon as u walk into a bar,you will be swarmed with dozens of girls grabbing your cock making you all types of promises and offering everything.Try to maintain your composure and wait it out and soon you will find a cool girl.Ive shot hundreds of girls here and can count on 2 hands how many I actually enjoy hanging out with,which isnt to say that there arent many fun to be with,but I prefer a girl I can talk to and enjoy time outside of the bedroom as well.

Literally you will see ladyboys everywhere,shopping malls,working makeup counters,Starbucks,walking down the street,Skytrain...everywhere.Its easy and alot of fun esp. if youve never been before.

On the other hand the Brasilians are just so damn hot,and wilder then their Thai counterparts,but again you have to consider language barriers,cuz they speak zero English,and they tend to be spread out all over S.P,and in some pretty crappy areas. I personally didnt have any problems down there,but my host was an English speaking Brasilian TS photographer who knew the girls and where to find them.
To give you an idea of the scene down in Brasil,my host took me down a street known as "Jack Off Street" where the girls would stand on the street in fur coats,stockings and heels...with nothing else on and as you drove past they would jack off for you,talking dirty in hopes you would stop and pick em up! If I didnt see it for myself I wouldnt believe it.

DJ AsiaDJ, thats what the fuck I'm talking about! Code X BAMM! And escorts here in NY wonder why I don't see them anymore. When I spend my money for an escort, you better believe it won't be in the US. If it takes me 2 or 3 more years before I get to Brasil, It will be 2 or 3 more years before I have another sexual exp. with a transsexual. Shit, its been over a year already. I can wait.

[Ecstatic]

Seanchai, you're full of shit, you know that? Why do you think Thailand is trying so hard to reduce HIV/AIDS with all their programs? It's because, other than Africa, it is 10x worse there than in other areas of the world.
A few facts:

According to estimates from the UNAIDS/WHO Global Report (May 2006), around 36.3 million adults and 2.3 million children were living with HIV at the end of 2005.

India probably has more cases of HIV infection than any other nation, currently estimated at 5.7 million (though that's only .5% of the population, so the rate is relatively low).

HIV may be considered epidemic in China (650,000), certainly in Thailand (580,000) and Myanmar (360,000); however, China's rate is 1:2000 while Thailand's is 1:112, which while hovering around 1% is a substantially higher rate.

The largest number of people living with HIV in Latin America is found in Brazil, with around 620,000 (1:303), so yes, the rate there is lower than in Thailand, but still quite significant. The highest rate of HIV infection in Latin America is in Haiti and the Bahamas, at over 3% (higher than anywhere else in the world outside of sub-Saharan Africa).

Of course, sub-Saharan Africa, with just 10% of the world's population, has 60% of its HIV cases, totally 24.5 million by the end of 2005.

In North America, there are approximately 1.3 million people living with HIV, and there are 720,000 or so in Western and Central Europe.

Source: http://www.avert.org/worlstatinfo.htm (AVERT is an international HIV and AIDS charity based in the UK, with the aim of AVERTing HIV and AIDS worldwide.)

[LoadedRevolver66]

Aren't sex tours illegal or strictly looked down upon by authorities? Not that I mind, but I think that would make it hard to find one. That, and the whole saftey issue, like not getting what you paid for or totally ripped off. If anybody has good connections to these tours, let me know (either by PM or a general message) because I'd like to see what they're all about.

[GroobySteven]

Seanchai, you're full of shit, you know that? Why do you think Thailand is trying so hard to reduce HIV/AIDS with all their programs? It's because, other than Africa, it is 10x worse there than in other areas of the world.

It looks like YOU are Thailand's #1 tourist guide! ;)

I'm full of shit? Have you travelled anywhere but Brazil? I've travelled to both Thailand and Brazil extensively and love them both. However, Brazil is easily as rife with STD's among sex workers and as somebody in a more privilidged postion than you, to see the girls after they've finished work and to know what goes on when they're no longer escorting or working for websites, I can say I've known more Brazilians than Thais with AIDS.

The whole point though is ridiculous - anyone considering going on a sex tour or with any sex worker and not considering the risks of catching an STD needs to wake up. Your preference for what country you prefer is endearing but ultimately objective and not based on the fact that somebody as full as shit as you, guess that there is more AID's in one country and not the other.
seanchai

[MacShreach]

Aren't sex tours illegal or strictly looked down upon by authorities? Not that I mind, but I think that would make it hard to find one. That, and the whole saftey issue, like not getting what you paid for or totally ripped off. If anybody has good connections to these tours, let me know (either by PM or a general message) because I'd like to see what they're all about.

I could be wrong but I think maybe you're getting confused with the disgusting trade in underage sex tourism. That's absolutely wrong and needs to be stamped out. But adult sex tourism has been mainstream for a long time, they just don't usually call it that......What was Cl*b 18-30 after all? And let's be honest, any guy going to Thailand for a month is expecting to come back with a smile on his face, whatever his preferences are.

The business probably is looked down on by many authorities but whether that amounts to them being able to do anything more than just making life difficult for the business operators I doubt. Certainly in Europe it's not a problem-- if it's legal here and it's legal where you're going, it's legal.

Might be different in the States-- you allow your Gummint powers over US citizens while not inside the States that are unusual to say the least.

As for the AIDS thing-- listen to Seanchai, he's right. Anybody, anywhere indulging in unsafe sex is being terminally stupid. One thing I have learned in the time I've been observing and contributing to boards like this is that a considerable number of men actually want o be penetrated and are using T-girl escorts (!) to satisfy this need. (I find it weird cause I like to shag 'em, but you know, whatever's yore thang....) Anybody planning to go anywhere and get someone they never met before to stick a penis up them without a condom should consider taking up a safer pastime like scuba-diving with sharks or volcanology. And given the fact that condoms can break, even they are not guaranteed protection.

It's OT but worth saying--I think there are guys reading this who are likely to take risks that a self-confessed gay most likely would not, simply because they don't actually see themselves as gay. Well, AIDS does not care whether you think you're gay or not. And it has been proved way beyond any doubt that the two highest risk groups in the West are men who get penetrated and needle-sharing drug users. Think about it, boys. AIDS survival is longer than it used to be, but IT IS STILL A DEATH SENTENCE.

:soapbox

Yeah I know it's my pet thing but if you've seen people in the late stages of AIDS it gets you that way.

[houstonshemalefan]

Seanchai, you're full of shit, you know that? Why do you think Thailand is trying so hard to reduce HIV/AIDS with all their programs? It's because, other than Africa, it is 10x worse there than in other areas of the world.

It looks like YOU are Thailand's #1 tourist guide! ;)

I'm full of shit? Have you travelled anywhere but Brazil? I've travelled to both Thailand and Brazil extensively and love them both. However, Brazil is easily as rife with STD's among sex workers and as somebody in a more privilidged postion than you, to see the girls after they've finished work and to know what goes on when they're no longer escorting or working for websites, I can say I've known more Brazilians than Thais with AIDS.

The whole point though is ridiculous - anyone considering going on a sex tour or with any sex worker and not considering the risks of catching an STD needs to wake up. Your preference for what country you prefer is endearing but ultimately objective and not based on the fact that somebody as full as shit as you, guess that there is more AID's in one country and not the other.
seanchai

Didn't mean to make it sound so harsh, but the "Brazilian Tourist Board" comment took away from my original point that HIV/AIDS is higher in Thailand than in Brazil. See the statistics for yourself. Anyway, no harm no foul, just stating facts.

Furthermore, I am not attracted so much to Ladyboys as they are literally boys/men with make-up (cross-dressers) whereas Brazilian shemales use the harmones early to make themselves as much a women as possible. I like the more feminine Brazilian shemales than the less feminine Ladyboys.

[GroobySteven]

Furthermore, I am not attracted so much to Ladyboys as they are literally boys/men with make-up (cross-dressers) whereas Brazilian shemales use the harmones early to make themselves as much a women as possible. I like the more feminine Brazilian shemales than the less feminine Ladyboys.

No harm, no foul here either but going to have to call you out again.
You have it completely the wrong way round. Thailand you can change to being a ladyboy at a much earlier age that Brazil and it's socially acceptable to go to school as a third sex - and start hormones in their early teens. That just is not acceptable in Brazilian culture where the majority of transsexuals are prostitutes. The Thais are far more passable and feminine up-close than the MAJORITY of the Brazilians. Of course, there are some stunning Brazilians like the ones you mentioned but also a good proportion of Brazilian Transsexuals are gay or bi men who dress for the financial opportunity (see the recent Lisa Lawyer situation - which is nothing original).
If by "feminine" you mean your type of woman is curvy, big breasted, larger than life, hard-cocked boneca types than Brazil is definately for you. Personally, for me feminine is softer, smoother, less OTT type women - this is for real women as well as tgirls.
Again, it's just different tastes but don't get caught in trap thinking the Brazilians are more feminine or use hormones more as you're showing your ignorance of both of the societies.
seanchai

[SheMaleInventor]

Several years back there was a murder trail which suddenly made national attention. One fact brought out was that Asia especially Thailand was the transexual surgery capital of the world. The guy that was helping my vendor bring in firewood told about the about 5 foot thai woman he married. He told about how when he was out collecting his own firewood she was able to handle the largest peices he wasn't about able to handle. I didn't have the heart to tell him that he probaby had a M2F guy.

I once had a geography book from the middle 1800's. In it it tells about how "in China and generally Asia had not to many years ago one hundred million enuchs!" Within this framework is a person considered of the lowest filth called a "ladyboy." It is well known and easy to understand someone called an "opera castrate." These are guys who have high voices who sang opera and to keep there high voice they would get castrated. When England and Europe stated to trade with Asia country they found that they could use guys especially from Thailand that could become the high singer without any castration.

So ladyboy is an old term but also one of much disgust. Today, what I understand is that ladyboys are told that in the US the street are made with gold and that they could make there fortunes. But they would have to trans to a woman or to get huge implants and huge amount of silicone injections.

There is a beautiful side of things which I consider as "SheMales" and an ugly side of things which I consider "ladyboys." I also know that there are guys who get off on things that I find distasteful. To me a guy who gets off on ladyboys are in the same class as those who would get off on a sex doll. Only plastic is involved!!!

For this reason I would not do a sextour to Thailand.

However, Brazil is a different matter.

During the days of protest my protest was against the practice of surgery on newborns. It was successful as hospitals in the Americas and Europe stopped the practice. As a result there are on the scene SheMales with prodigous cock jack steel hard when at erection spurting delicious thick jism!!!! And Brazil is a hotbed for this, so, I HAVE MY BAGS PACKED - BRAZIL OR BUST!!!!

As a side most of the post are about the underbelly of society. But, SheMales are located in descent society and that is where my interaction would be.

LOVE James

Or California Home of Summer or Bust:
http://www.sm.jimsamazongym.com/summer/profile01.jpg

[suckseed]

During the days of protest my protest was against the practice of surgery on newborns. It was successful as hospitals in the Americas and Europe stopped the practice. As a result there are on the scene SheMales with prodigous cock jack steel hard when at erection spurting delicious thick jism!!!! And Brazil is a hotbed for this, so, I HAVE MY BAGS PACKED - BRAZIL OR BUST!!!!



I'm confused. As a result of stopping surgery on newborns, the streets of Brazil are teeming with ejaculating shemales? Talk about the Butterfly Effect.

[shutheight]

Been to Rio and Pattaya on the US Navy's dime. Quite a few years ago, though.

Special 3-day $100 plan.

Thailand was, by far, the most enjoyable.

[GroobySteven]

During the days of protest my protest was against the practice of surgery on newborns. It was successful as hospitals in the Americas and Europe stopped the practice. As a result there are on the scene SheMales with prodigous cock jack steel hard when at erection spurting delicious thick jism!!!! And Brazil is a hotbed for this, so, I HAVE MY BAGS PACKED - BRAZIL OR BUST!!!!



I'm confused. As a result of stopping surgery on newborns, the streets of Brazil are teeming with ejaculating shemales? Talk about the Butterfly Effect.
This guy lives in his own fantasies. He's pretty hatstand.
seanchai

[d]

Several years back there was a murder trail which suddenly made national attention. One fact brought out was that Asia especially Thailand was the transexual surgery capital of the world. The guy that was helping my vendor bring in firewood told about the about 5 foot thai woman he married. He told about how when he was out collecting his own firewood she was able to handle the largest peices he wasn't about able to handle. I didn't have the heart to tell him that he probaby had a M2F guy.

I once had a geography book from the middle 1800's. In it it tells about how "in China and generally Asia had not to many years ago one hundred million enuchs!" Within this framework is a person considered of the lowest filth called a "ladyboy." It is well known and easy to understand someone called an "opera castrate." These are guys who have high voices who sang opera and to keep there high voice they would get castrated. When England and Europe stated to trade with Asia country they found that they could use guys especially from Thailand that could become the high singer without any castration.

So ladyboy is an old term but also one of much disgust. Today, what I understand is that ladyboys are told that in the US the street are made with gold and that they could make there fortunes. But they would have to trans to a woman or to get huge implants and huge amount of silicone injections.

There is a beautiful side of things which I consider as "SheMales" and an ugly side of things which I consider "ladyboys." I also know that there are guys who get off on things that I find distasteful. To me a guy who gets off on ladyboys are in the same class as those who would get off on a sex doll. Only plastic is involved!!!

For this reason I would not do a sextour to Thailand.

However, Brazil is a different matter.

During the days of protest my protest was against the practice of surgery on newborns. It was successful as hospitals in the Americas and Europe stopped the practice. As a result there are on the scene SheMales with prodigous cock jack steel hard when at erection spurting delicious thick jism!!!! And Brazil is a hotbed for this, so, I HAVE MY BAGS PACKED - BRAZIL OR BUST!!!!

As a side most of the post are about the underbelly of society. But, SheMales are located in descent society and that is where my interaction would be.

LOVE James

Or California Home of Summer or Bust:



wtf?