Ryder Monroe attacks Wendy Williams Transphobic D

[GroobySteven]

Good on Ryder Monroe getting one of her tweets shown on The Advocate today in response to Wendy Williams (no relation to TS model Wendy Williams) poor choice of panel and words:

http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2014/03/17/wendy-williams-apologizes-transphobic-panel-discussion

[RyderMonroe]

Finally! My rage is getting the recognition it deserves lol

[SammiValentine]

Finally! My rage is getting the recognition it deserves lol

well raged missy ;-) x

[dderek123]

Rage on sweetie!

[youngblood61]

What an idiot Wendy Williams is!

[DeliaTS]

Finally! My rage is getting the recognition it deserves lol

Hahaha - Awesome! Rage on sister!

[EvaCassini]

I read the article but the "tweets" didn't appear. What was tweeted? I wish to know!!! I want to see Rider throw feet in mouths ( not the fetish kind ).

[DeliaTS]

Ryder Avalon @RyderAvalon (https://twitter.com/RyderAvalon?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.advo cate.com%2Fpolitics%2Ftransgender%2F2014%2F03%2F17 %2Fwendy-williams-apologizes-transphobic-panel-discussion&tw_i=444568197937627136&tw_p=tweetembed) @joepardavila (https://twitter.com/joepardavila)
you are an irresponsible dumbfuck bigot. "Idiot" fails to accurately describe you.

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Joe 'Monk' Pardavila ✔ @joepardavila (https://twitter.com/joepardavila)
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@ryderavalon (https://twitter.com/RyderAvalon) Ryder, my comments were inexcusable and I promise to learn from this experience.
1:22 PM - 14 Mar 2014 (https://twitter.com/joepardavila/statuses/444569302109548544)

[giovanni_hotel]

I guess it depends when you transition, but if a TS woman trains to compete in an athletic competition while taken the standard HRT regimen, she's not going to have any real competitive advantage over CIS women.

But I understand why people feel this way.

For example if I transitioned tomorrow, I'm still going to have bigger and stronger muscles than most CIS women even if I'm taking HRT.

It's tricky deciding what to do with TS athletes competing against other women because there's an assumption they have an unfair competitive advantage in both muscle mass and strength.

There's no real way to quantify it.

[DeliaTS]

I guess it depends when you transition, but if a TS woman trains to compete in an athletic competition while taken the standard HRT regimen, she's not going to have any real competitive advantage over CIS women.

But I understand why people feel this way.

For example if I transitioned tomorrow, I'm still going to have bigger and stronger muscles than most CIS women even if I'm taking HRT.

It's tricky deciding what to do with TS athletes competing against other women because there's an assumption they have an unfair competitive advantage in both muscle mass and strength.

There's no real way to quantify it.

It's sounds like one year on HRT for MtF is what they are saying in the article:


Eric Vilain, director of the Center for Gender-based Biology, and chief of medical genetics in the Department of Pediatrics at the University of California Los Angeles, debunks the idea that transgender women (http://www.wiaa.com/ConDocs/Con550/TransgenderStudentAthleteReport.pdf) who have been on hormone replacement therapy for a significant amount of time retain some sort of advantage over their cisgender counterparts:
"Research suggests that androgen deprivation and cross-sex hormone treatment in male-to-female transsexuals reduces muscle mass; accordingly, one year of hormone therapy is an appropriate transitional time before a male-to-female student athlete competes on a women's team."

[LABiM75&StrF51]

Wendy (talk show) Williams can not get 2 words out before half-intelligent people think she is stupid?
:soapbox:deadhorse:why

[giovanni_hotel]

It's sounds like one year on HRT for MtF is what they are saying in the article:


Eric Vilain, director of the Center for Gender-based Biology, and chief of medical genetics in the Department of Pediatrics at the University of California Los Angeles, debunks the idea that transgender women (http://www.wiaa.com/ConDocs/Con550/TransgenderStudentAthleteReport.pdf) who have been on hormone replacement therapy for a significant amount of time retain some sort of advantage over their cisgender counterparts:
"Research suggests that androgen deprivation and cross-sex hormone treatment in male-to-female transsexuals reduces muscle mass; accordingly, one year of hormone therapy is an appropriate transitional time before a male-to-female student athlete competes on a women's team."


Part of the problem is most people wrongly assume male muscle tissue is fundamentally different than female muscle, when the only real difference is QUANTITY of muscle tissue in men, not the TYPE.

Also because of testosterone, obviously, men are able to build bigger and stronger muscles more easily than women.

Do women have less fast twitch muscle fiber than men?? This I don't know because that actually is a type of specific muscle tissue and affects performance in many athletic events.
I have no idea how HRT affects slow and fast twitch muscle fibers.

[DeliaTS]

Part of the problem is most people wrongly assume male muscle tissue is fundamentally different than female muscle, when the only real difference is QUANTITY of muscle tissue in men, not the TYPE.

Also because of testosterone, obviously, men are able to build bigger and stronger muscles more easily than women.

Do women have less fast twitch muscle fiber than men?? This I don't know because that actually is a type of specific muscle tissue and affects performance in many athletic events.
I have no idea how HRT affects slow and fast twitch muscle fibers.

Yeah, I have no idea about any of that stuff. I was just going by what was presented in the article. I know when people were railing against Fallon Fox one argument that kept coming up was bone density.

This article in Salon says two years HRT and debunks the bone density myth:

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/30/debunking_unfair_advantage_myths_about_trans_athle tes_partner/

[youngblood61]

I salute Ryder:claps

[nysprod]

Finally! My rage is getting the recognition it deserves lol


well raged missy ;-) x

A question for both of you...after reading Joe 'Monk' Pardavila's tweets, what's your thinking?

[RyderMonroe]

I think he is genuinely sincere in his remorse for what he said. He started emailing me and was very receptive to what I had to say. He says he hasn't felt this horrible since his dad died and that he is going to attone for his mistake.