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stan.smith
12-03-2013, 08:59 PM
"I dont want any black or indian men to call or text I dont see both race no matter what the offer is"

This is the first thing that you see when you enter Ts Lillian aka Eva Rain's website tslillian.com What do you think of this statement...Ignorant? Arrogant? Racist? Hilarious? Im going for all 4! being half arabic and half greek herself wonder what she has against blacks and indians. funny thing is i have seen her before, guess she didnt have this "rule" then lol.
Huge cock nontheless although personally i think she got way too skinny and over did it on the tattoos, especially that huge one covering her ass!

stan.smith
12-03-2013, 09:00 PM
http://tslillian.com

tsadriana
12-03-2013, 09:01 PM
It might be the reason that most of them dont pay or are very rude ..its just an opinion.

dderek123
12-03-2013, 09:25 PM
It's just a preference.

nysprod
12-03-2013, 09:30 PM
Works both ways, I see plenty of girls who say they only want black or latino guys...

Jericho
12-03-2013, 09:33 PM
Being neither Black nor Indian, i don't care.
And if she said "No Whites", i still wouldn't care.
Someone, somewhere, will happily suck my bankroll with joyous abandon! :shrug

Stavros
12-03-2013, 09:35 PM
There used to be an escort in Singapore whose Craigslist ad stated she didn't want to see men under 25 or over 45, she then moved to London whereupon her preferred age limits disappeared. If escorts only saw the men they wanted to see, they would be out of work.

Ms.Stepford
12-03-2013, 10:06 PM
I don't see younger guys of any ethnicity, unless they can prove that they have income to pay me.

Too many younger guys confuse my ad with a dating or "hook up" ad, thinking that I'll give them a freebie based on their self-perceived prowess or attractiveness.

As I've said, I'm good at making men feel a few decades younger, and with guys my age, that can be really sad and weird.

LibertyHarkness
12-03-2013, 10:18 PM
I like the generic line most young guys use " I am good looking you will like me " lol

martin48
12-03-2013, 11:07 PM
I like the generic line most young guys use " I am good looking you will like me " lol

I use that line as an old guy - never works either!

bluesoul
12-03-2013, 11:09 PM
"I dont want any black or indian men to call or text I dont see both race no matter what the offer is"

it's an interesting and very telling statement. but even more revealing are the replies about it :whistle:

martin48
12-03-2013, 11:11 PM
"I dont want any black or indian men to call or text I dont see both race no matter what the offer is"



Just racist - plain and simple

BellaBellucci
12-03-2013, 11:29 PM
I'm with the other girls. I don't discriminate by race; I discriminate by class. Needless to say then, my phone doesn't ring much, and that's fine with me if it needs to be that way. #qualityoverquantity

~BB~

tsadriana
12-03-2013, 11:31 PM
Most girls try to avoid the youngest ones due to their rude attitude ,and to be honest i dont blaime the girl for what she put ,there must be a big reason for it.

MrsKellyPierce
12-03-2013, 11:32 PM
That she prefers white and latino dick? Don't see the issue.

tsmirandameadows
12-03-2013, 11:42 PM
Most girls try to avoid the youngest ones due to their rude attitude ,and to be honest i dont blaime the girl for what she put ,there must be a big reason for it.

Yeah, I mean the statement is by definition racist, but on the other hand it's probably born out of bad experiences with men of these races as opposed to some sort of racial animus. It's an unfair prejudgement to make, but on the other hand we all screen clients so as to tilt the odds in favor of a good appointment. Seeing a new client IS scary. That fear goes away once the appointment is underway and you're both having a good time, but the reality is that you don't know who the fuck this guy is: cop, predator, creep, woman-beater, or nice, professional guy who just wants to have some fun with a pretty tgirl.

tsadriana
12-03-2013, 11:43 PM
Yeah, I mean the statement is by definition racist, but on the other hand it's probably born out of bad experiences with men of these races as opposed to some sort of racial animus. It's an unfair prejudgement to make, but on the other hand we all screen clients so as to tilt the odds in favor of a good appointment. Seeing a new client IS scary. That fear goes away once the appointment is underway and you're both having a good time, but the reality is that you don't know who the fuck this guy is: cop, predator, creep, woman-beater, or nice, professional guy who just wants to have some fun with a pretty tgirl.
Being an escort its always a risk no matter who you meet.

jenssch
12-03-2013, 11:47 PM
That she prefers white and latino dick? Don't see the issue.

agree.

it doesnt necessarily means she is racist. it might just not be her sexuel preference.
why should she devote herself to things she is not into, just because its her job?

nysprod
12-03-2013, 11:50 PM
I don't see younger guys of any ethnicity, unless they can prove that they have income to pay me.

Too many younger guys confuse my ad with a dating or "hook up" ad, thinking that I'll give them a freebie based on their self-perceived prowess or attractiveness.

As I've said, I'm good at making men feel a few decades younger, and with guys my age, that can be really sad and weird.


I like the generic line most young guys use " I am good looking you will like me " lol

Young good looking guys in a big city who have even half a brain will have no problem getting all the free tranny action they can handle...I'm not one of them, in case you're wondering...

nysprod
12-03-2013, 11:56 PM
Older guys will get all the tranny action their bank accounts can handle...

tsadriana
12-04-2013, 12:01 AM
Older guys will get all the tranny action their bank accounts can handle...

Its not about only their bank accounts ,but an older or lets say mature guy knows better that the girl surivives from this job and the youngest ones confuse escort sites with dating sites.

Ben in LA
12-04-2013, 12:04 AM
Mr. Carter said it best. On to the next one.

"On To The Next One" JAY Z | Swizz Beatz [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube (www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU)

Donkey
12-04-2013, 12:08 AM
As a black man, this has never bothered me. There are plenty of girls who actually prefer black cock. I support an escort's right to decide who she fucks.

nysprod
12-04-2013, 12:11 AM
Its not about only their bank accounts ,but an older or lets say mature guy knows better that the girl surivives from this job and the youngest ones confuse escort sites with dating sites.

That's because many escorts will jump thru hoops for the chance to give it away for free if the guy is young and hot...

BellaBellucci
12-04-2013, 12:25 AM
That's because many escorts will jump thru hoops for the chance to give it away for free if the guy is young and hot...

I fucking hate that. Casual sex is one thing. Spoiling clients with freebies because you can't live without validation from others is quite another.

~BB~

danthepoetman
12-04-2013, 12:28 AM
I must admit that I provided in my prime youth, a long, long time ago, a public service of a certain type. Not nearly as risky as escorting, it was still a messy thing. You realize pretty fast that it’s much better, as Bella is saying, to have less but more dependable clients rather than a lot with lots of trouble. I suppose it should be much truer with escorting.
As to the formulation, it’s of course regrettable.
I guess there is no racismometer, and that the level of such literature is dependant on circumstances, here of course, a difficult trade, to say the least, with indeed unavoidable bad experiences coming. But in big cities, we all live in very cosmopolitan milieux, and we should always be careful with what we say, as we’re all a part of the very diversity. To me, the huge red intro seriously lacks class. But who am I to judge?

KinkyDisaster
12-04-2013, 12:50 AM
"Damn... *sigh* Oh well." :dancing:

rdrecker
12-04-2013, 01:26 AM
Why is it racist to have a preference of who you want or don't want to be with and then have the nerve to come out and say it? On every dating website they always list race or ethnicity and what you are looking for. It's not racist to leave off who you are not interested in. This is no different. However, pc/senstivity/tact on the other hand, well she has none.

blackchubby38
12-04-2013, 07:52 PM
"I dont want any black or indian men to call or text I dont see both race no matter what the offer is"

This is the first thing that you see when you enter Ts Lillian aka Eva Rain's website tslillian.com What do you think of this statement...Ignorant? Arrogant? Racist? Hilarious? Im going for all 4! being half arabic and half greek herself wonder what she has against blacks and indians. funny thing is i have seen her before, guess she didnt have this "rule" then lol.
Huge cock nontheless although personally i think she got way too skinny and over did it on the tattoos, especially that huge one covering her ass!

As a provider, she has every right to say that. Just like the porn stars who say they won't perform with black male talent. Its not ignorant, arrogant, or racist. Its their preference.

On the flip side, as a client I have the right to choose who I want to spend my money on based on my preferences.

stan.smith
12-04-2013, 08:53 PM
Interesting reading all the comments. just to be clear there is no issue here i just wanted to know what people thought of that statement. yes i agree its her preference who she wants to see and who she wants to avoid. i also agree that her statement isnt classy at all, maybe its just the way its written that could strike the wrong nerve.

RadiusDark
12-05-2013, 02:03 AM
She's a racist. Dealt with a few of them in my time. No time for discussion.

Keep it moving.

tsluvr61
12-05-2013, 02:46 AM
Its her "personal preference" so to call it anything else is pure conjecture.
And I personally prefer to see either White or Asian TG's when the mood strikes me. It has nothing to do with racism, but my own personal preferences. Ignorance, Racism, Hilarity etc etc to describe someones feelings to me seem to be asinine. Live and let live. Each of us have our own thoughts so what makes mine, or hers, any different than yours? Think about it!

Rusty Eldora
12-05-2013, 03:09 AM
As a black man, this has never bothered me. There are plenty of girls who actually prefer black cock. I support an escort's right to decide who she fucks.

The escort isn't serving burgers, she is going to be up close and personal. Yes there are those that prefer one type and wish to avoid another. It's best to see those that really want to see you.

maddygirl
12-05-2013, 03:20 AM
Politically correct stickler cry baby bullshit. Moving on.

Jamie French
12-05-2013, 03:21 AM
She may or may not be racist... more to the point she lacks tact. I only discuss my preferences on an individual level once it's gotten to the 'email exchange' stage of the transaction.

By the way, in direct defiance of my previous statement: Blacks yes, Indians no, young dudes never, guys that mention how good they look get a 100 dollar price bump in my favor for general douchebaggery.

trish
12-05-2013, 03:28 AM
Her personal preferences reveal her to be racist. A public business is required by law to make its services available without regard to race. But then again, there's an aspect of the escort business that is intimately personal and not at all open to the general public. The question is whether it is ethical for escorts to act upon their racial preferences when selecting clients (who clearly exercise their own racial preferences when selecting escorts). Professional ethicists have never considered this issue because they can't even get past the idea of buying "companionship" with money. Looks like we're on our own; i.e. we get make our own rules.

dakota87
12-05-2013, 03:29 AM
She's a racist. Dealt with a few of them in my time. No time for discussion.

Keep it moving.

I know her and she's absolutely NOT a racist. You couldn't be further from the truth. People who judge her without knowing her need to put a lid on it and mind their beeswax.

RadiusDark
12-05-2013, 04:36 AM
I know her and she's absolutely NOT a racist. You couldn't be further from the truth. People who judge her without knowing her need to put a lid on it and mind their beeswax.

Uh-huh, keep it moving.

This person is judging all blacks and Indians without knowing them. Like I said, she's racist. No need to discuss anything further. She's doing her thing and I'm doing mind. No problem.

broncofan
12-05-2013, 04:55 AM
I think it's racist as well. It's one thing to have a personal preference when dating, but having a business, even one involving intimacy and excluding entire ethnic groups is by definition racist. It's even worse if the justification is based on behavioral traits being ascribed to the entire group.

Not to mention the way she stated her preference, without any regard to the sensitivities of people who would be excluded. I really don't need to know her to think she's a racist.

RadiusDark
12-05-2013, 05:13 AM
*mine :)

Jamie French
12-05-2013, 05:46 AM
Guys, it's not a business. It's a grift. As legitimate in scope as a yard sale. At best.

Let's not pretend for the sake of righteous indignation here. That's low hanging fruit.

Even if whoring were an accredited & licensed business, sanctioned by the chamber of commerce, that could not stop her or anyone else from posting a sign that says, "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." If she were a government institution... different story. She's not, so the story sticks. For every whore that refuses to see ____ there is, I dunno... one, thirty seven, a million? Who will.

giovanni_hotel
12-05-2013, 06:12 AM
Some of you might be a wee bit too sensitive to solicit the services of an escort.

Not exactly the type of person you should be seeking out for depth of humanity, compassion and understanding.

Now pull down your pants and put on this condom.
A half an hour is only 30 minutes hon.

Jamie French
12-05-2013, 10:28 AM
We are truly awful. Paying rent and bills and shit... fuck that noise. Responsibility is for douchebags.


Some of you might be a wee bit too sensitive to solicit the services of an escort.

Not exactly the type of person you should be seeking out for depth of humanity, compassion and understanding.

Now pull down your pants and put on this condom.
A half an hour is only 30 minutes hon.

BBaggins06
12-05-2013, 12:04 PM
......................

danthepoetman
12-05-2013, 12:09 PM
We are truly awful. Paying rent and bills and shit... fuck that noise. Responsibility is for douchebags.

Well, Jamie, here's a guy who loves every last aspect of your "irresponsability"... ;)

glenntinnyc
12-05-2013, 03:32 PM
How is who an escort chooses to see or not see an issue of her being racist? Her wording could have been better i agree, but I can't see a difference here between not seeing older clients, not wanting to see overweight clients etc etc,. If she is not attracted to a certain type, then the next rant will be her shitty service etc etc, i felt rushed, she didn't get into it and so on. Those of you calling out racism , do you know her personally? do you know who she is friends with outside of her work? Thats an ugly thing to call someone before all the details are known.

giovanni_hotel
12-05-2013, 04:09 PM
The ad is racist, but that's like, you know, the world we live in.

At least she's upfront about where she's coming from and she's saving guys from wasting their time.

I would think good hygiene and being D/D free would be more important than the skin color of potential trick, but what do I know?

RadiusDark
12-05-2013, 08:34 PM
How is who an escort chooses to see or not see an issue of her being racist? Her wording could have been better i agree, but I can't see a difference here between not seeing older clients, not wanting to see overweight clients etc etc,. If she is not attracted to a certain type, then the next rant will be her shitty service etc etc, i felt rushed, she didn't get into it and so on. Those of you calling out racism , do you know her personally? do you know who she is friends with outside of her work? Thats an ugly thing to call someone before all the details are known.

LOL.

Look how long your rant is. She was like "me no like black or Indian. No see them no matter what them offer is."

Details? LOL. Stop it. There aren't any details.

She not fucking with blacks or Indians. Period. Those races are excluded. The reason doesn't matter just like a black or Indian's offer doesn't matter. She's racist. Get over it. :)

She can do whatever she wants. People worrying about this are doing too much.

Jamie French
12-05-2013, 11:07 PM
Again, it may not be racism. Her social graces may simply not be very refined. I have all sorts of friends from all races and strata of life. Very close friends and family members to boot. I grew up in a Muslim household surrounded by Arabs but I'd never take one on as a client. I would rather not risk tarnishing my rep for providing awesome service by taking on a client that I can't get into.

It's too easy to write off a stranger as one particular thing. It's lazy to polarize. It's a base gratification to conjure enemies from the glint of a sentence taken out of context.

Be better than that. Assume nothing until you've established contact. And try to keep in mind that personalities are dynamic and morph over time. Today's racist may just be tomorrow's saint.


Now go fuck off ya fuckin' fucks.



LOL.

Look how long your rant is. She was like "me no like black or Indian. No see them no matter what them offer is."

Details? LOL. Stop it. There aren't any details.

She not fucking with blacks or Indians. Period. Those races are excluded. The reason doesn't matter just like a black or Indian's offer doesn't matter. She's racist. Get over it. :)

She can do whatever she wants. People worrying about this are doing too much.

darkrose2000
12-05-2013, 11:21 PM
May be someone of you will hate me, but I also believe that the escort has the right to choose who she wants to see.
This is no free service, not a public service.

She is offering her body and her ass.

When the escort made this statement, probably she is aware that this could mean less clients and income.

On the other side, as someone mentioned above - the clients has the rights to choose who and when to call/meet.


Regards,
Kalin

timxxx
12-05-2013, 11:41 PM
May be someone of you will hate me, but I also believe that the escort has the right to choose who she wants to see.
This is no free service, not a public service.

She is offering her body and her ass.

When the escort made this statement, probably she is aware that this could mean less clients and income.

On the other side, as someone mentioned above - the clients has the rights to choose who and when to call/meet.


Regards,
Kalin

I agree an escort a right to as racist,ageist or anti semitic as she likes,it's her ass but we all have the right to call her out on it.

danthepoetman
12-05-2013, 11:42 PM
The problem here is the generalization, of course. If you extend a dislike for a whole group, and we all know how theoretical, rather than real, such groups really are (there is no "black" not anymore than there is a "white" or a "stupid" or an "evil" positively identifiable group), you simply generalize. As Jamie was saying, you can only judge someone after a certain type of contact.
We all have to suppose, and we largely have, that like most escorts, she had a certain numbers of bad experiences with a certain number of individuals which by a process of induction (making generalization out of one or a few examples), she created a silly rule for herself. In this case she fell into some racist patterns.
But I think it's evident that escorts will be picky, as was said in several posts on this thread. After all, we're talking about sex, damn it! and about a risky business. Personaly, it seems to me that the way she's doing it is completely classless.

broncofan
12-06-2013, 12:06 AM
I agree an escort a right to as racist,ageist or anti semitic as she likes,it's her ass but we all have the right to call her out on it.
I agree. I do want to clarify since there seems to be some confusion that private businesses actually aren't allowed to discriminate under the civil rights act and are often sued even when they don't make it express. They can say "we reserve the right to deny service to anyone" but if they do that and have a de facto policy of racist discrimination, they are violating federal law. But none of that matters for activity that is not sanctioned or licensed anyway I agree.

People are allowed to hold racist beliefs, to express racist beliefs, and even to deny that their beliefs are racist after expressing them. But as you say, some people are going to say they think it's racist if they think it is.

As a screening device, of course it's racist to have a couple of bad experiences with a group and through induction exclude all members. If there's a certain type of behavior you're trying to screen, there are always better proxies for it than race.

tsmounting
12-06-2013, 12:13 AM
Whatever her reasons, she is self-employed and as such has the right to choose who she does business with. Maybe it could be expressed slightly better but that's her choice and frankly when you operating in this seedy business as a punter or provider, it's a bit rich to start expecting everyone to be civilised and 'politically correct'! lol As a punter, if you're black would you not rather know she is going to treat you like a cunt in advance and avoid it instead of having some hostile, rushed session?...

Quiet Reflections
12-06-2013, 12:22 AM
I reads racist and very well could be but if it was my body I was selling I would have quite the list of stuff that wouldn't make it through my door. Whether her dicision to put that statement in her ad was because of her feeling on race or some other issue we should all admit that it is her right not to fuck people that she doesn't want to fuck.

broncofan
12-06-2013, 12:30 AM
I reads racist and very well could be but if it was my body I was selling I would have quite the list of stuff that wouldn't make it through my door. Whether her dicision to put that statement in her ad was because of her feeling on race or some other issue we should all admit that it is her right not to fuck people that she doesn't want to fuck.
I think the primary discussion was over whether it was racist rather than whether it is permissible. If there were no transaction involved, it would be an area wholly beyond the scope of the government's regulatory powers based on the right to privacy. As a transaction, it's not even one that's technically legal, so of course it's not going to be regulated. She can fuck who she wants, and she can fuck who she wants for money. She can also express any view she wants, and believe whatever she wants. I don't see any bearing her rights to do these things have on whether she's a racist, since it's not illegal to be one.

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 11:26 AM
Just because you don't wanna fuck someone doesn't mean you wouldn't like 'em as a friend or coworker.

That was easy.

trish
12-06-2013, 04:03 PM
Yeah, just because there's a whole race of people among whom there's not even one you would consider fucking, even for money, even though fucking for money is your chosen vocation, it doesn't follow you couldn't like a few of 'em as friends. Easy.

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 05:29 PM
Why would fucking for money make the fucking any less elective? Is there some contract I forgot to sign when I posted my Backpage ad that says the entire world has mandatory access to my colon?


Yeah, just because there's a whole race of people among whom there's not even one you would consider fucking, even for money, even though fucking for money is your chosen vocation, it doesn't follow you couldn't like a few of 'em as friends. Easy.

nysprod
12-06-2013, 05:38 PM
Where do I go to bitch when I see a hot tgirl running a freebie nsa ad on cl who doesn't want anyone over 30?

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 05:41 PM
Any bar. Then you talk to a real live girl. Then you get laid. Always worked for me. Being in a band helped.



Where do I go to bitch when I see a hot tgirl running a freebie nsa ad on cl who doesn't want anyone over 30?

trish
12-06-2013, 05:43 PM
Hey, I'm just agreeing with you. I already posted my opinion here _> http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1421535&postcount=36

But to reiterate:
1) Is it ethical for a prostitute to discriminate on the basis of race? I say, “Yes, given the intimate nature of the exchange.” (There is probably even wider agreement that it is ethical for a prostitute to discriminate on the basis of gender.)

2) If a prostitute advertises that she sells or refuses to sell her services on the basis of race, is she racist? I say, “Her policy, no matter how tactfully she phrases it, certainly is.”

3) Is it legal for an escort to discriminate on the basis of race? I assume the answer is, “No.” Escorting is (or at least poses as) a legitimate business. (I’m sure no one here uses escorting as a front for more nefareous activities :) ) As a legitimate business (private or not) I assume it is not legal for it to discriminate on the basis of race. But I’m not a lawyer...so don’t take my word for it. But "Who cares?", 'cause no john is going to sue a prostitute for discrimination. A bordello in Nevada, on the other hand, may have to take pains to cover its legal ass.

nysprod
12-06-2013, 05:46 PM
Any bar. Then you talk to a real live girl. Then you get laid. Always worked for me. Being in a band helped.

Lol...yeah, back in the day when I was in bands it was like who's next...problem is, that was back before you were even born.

ilove2swallow
12-06-2013, 05:49 PM
gawd, tranny's are blood sucking vampires
no regular tranny's looking for regular relationships
all prostitutes

nysprod
12-06-2013, 05:52 PM
gawd, tranny's are blood sucking vampires
no regular tranny's looking for regular relationships
all prostitutes

Here we go...

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 05:58 PM
The racist angle still doesn't jibe with me...

Skin tone, stature, bone structure, speech patterns, accents, fashion sensibilities... these are all surface level, unimportant garbage. These are basically ice cream flavors and as such, should be able to be discriminated against in matters of personal taste when absolutely nothing of consequence is on the line.

According to the logic of our more sensitive posters on this particular thread, the weight of 'race' would only be the tip of the iceberg in offensive preferences. Imagine how much more hateful it would be to only like certain bands, or certain authors... In those instances you'd actually be discriminating against someone's very ideas, their efforts, their trials and tribulations! What kind of monsters would we be if the initial imagined slight over a whores preferences where as real as the offended parties imagined?

Brains, people. Use 'em.

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 05:59 PM
Wrong. I'm in a rock solid relationship. Many of us are.


gawd, tranny's are blood sucking vampires
no regular tranny's looking for regular relationships
all prostitutes

trish
12-06-2013, 06:03 PM
All I'm saying is that in matters of intimacy (even in the case of prostitution) it is racist but nevertheless ethical to discriminate on the basis of race. The more sensitive among us just don't like being called "racist". I say call a suit by its name. But now we're just arguing semantics.

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 06:04 PM
Also, I don't have one male friend that'd fuck a tranny for pay or otherwise. Does this make my friends transphobic? Gimme a break.

BBaggins06
12-06-2013, 06:05 PM
3) Is it legal for an escort to discriminate on the basis of race? I assume the answer is, “No.” Escorting is (or at least poses as) a legitimate business. (I’m sure no one here uses escorting as a front for more nefareous activities :) ) As a legitimate business (private or not) I assume it is not legal for it to discriminate on the basis of race. But I’m not a lawyer...so don’t take my word for it. But "Who cares?", 'cause no john is going to sue a prostitute for discrimination. A bordello in Nevada, on the other hand, may have to take pains to cover its legal ass.

Escorting, "a legitimate business"? Er, no. Can any illegal activity be a legitimate business? If so, why not human traffickers, meth dealers and telemarketers? Do escorts pay income taxes like other legitimate businesses? Do they get to write off all their business expenses on their 1040s? When is the annual shareholders' meeting?

trish
12-06-2013, 06:07 PM
Only if he's actually "afraid" of transsexuals. :)

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 06:07 PM
So when I'm at my Jordanian dad's Mediterranean restaurant just hanging out with him and working the kitchen for free I'm totally cool with Arabs but if I turn one down as a client I'm racist? What utter garbage.

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 06:08 PM
All that is correct except the taxes part. (Google Al Capone) I pay my taxes every year as an independent contractor under the Performance Artist heading as ascribed by the tax code. (I dig on libraries and infrastructure)


Escorting, "a legitimate business"? Er, no. Can any illegal activity be a legitimate business? If so, why not human traffickers, meth dealers and telemarketers? Do escorts pay income taxes like other legitimate businesses? Do they get to write off all their business expenses on their 1040s? When is the annual shareholders' meeting?

trish
12-06-2013, 06:09 PM
Escorting, "a legitimate business"? Er, no. Can any illegal activity be a legitimate business? If so, why not human traffickers, meth dealers and telemarketers? Do escorts pay income taxes like other legitimate businesses? Do they get to write off all their business expenses on their 1040s? When is the annual shareholders' meeting?
Escorting is usually a "front" for prostitution. But it doesn't work as front unless it is actually legitimate to offer one's services for pay as an escort (i.e. not as a prostitute). That's why escort ads always have the disclaimer that the services on offer do not include sex.

ilove2swallow
12-06-2013, 06:11 PM
can i just swallow some free tranny nut?

... No, no i cannot

trish
12-06-2013, 06:12 PM
So when I'm at my Jordanian dad's Mediterranean restaurant just hanging out with him and working the kitchen for free I'm totally cool with Arabs but if I turn one down as a client I'm racist? What utter garbage.If you advertise that Arabs need not apply, that would be a racist policy. If you turn down a couple of Arab clients for reasons unknown, not so much.

giovanni_hotel
12-06-2013, 06:13 PM
Escorts need to get a clue and use some tact. I assume many don't because they don't give a fuck.

Would it really be so hard for an escort to have an addendum in her ad that reads, ' I reserve the right to refuse ANYONE service.'

Placing such a huge upfront emphasis on race as a cross out for potential clients to the average trick sounds like an escort has serious personal issues with skin color and ethnicity.

Keep your bigotries to yourself and stop polluting the interwebz.

IRL if I meet a non-Black woman I'm attracted to, approach her and she's not interested, I've never heard her say, ' I don't do Black guys.'

Why??
Because it's rude.

Sorry but when I read this stuff upfront in an ad, I assume either the escort is an idiot or racist.

All escorts given a choice have clients for whatever superficial reasons they won't see, but they finesse it better.

LOL. Are Black dudes really the majority of men who hit up TS escorts??

Jamie French
12-06-2013, 06:23 PM
Not the majority... it's mostly white 40 something middle management traveling business men... but a fair amount are black. I always take black clients, (so long as they're over 30... I'm a total chronophobist.)


Escorts need to get a clue and use some tact. I assume many don't because they don't give a fuck.

Would it really be so hard for an escort to have an addendum in her ad that reads, ' I reserve the right to refuse ANYONE service.'

Placing such a huge upfront emphasis on race as a cross out for potential clients to the average trick sounds like an escort has serious personal issues with skin color and ethnicity.

Keep your bigotries to yourself and stop polluting the interwebz.

IRL if I meet a non-Black woman I'm attracted to, approach her and she's not interested, I've never heard her say, ' I don't do Black guys.'

Why??
Because it's rude.

Sorry but when I read this stuff upfront in an ad, I assume either the escort is an idiot or racist.

All escorts given a choice have clients for whatever superficial reasons they won't see, but they finesse it better.

LOL. Are Black dudes really the majority of men who hit up TS escorts??

Tapatio
12-06-2013, 06:29 PM
I don't take strange cock for money, so. . .

I'm selective, too. I just don't advertise it.

Paladin
12-06-2013, 08:37 PM
Older guys will get all the tranny action their bank accounts can handle...


Now That's funny!

nysprod
12-06-2013, 09:29 PM
Now That's funny!

The truth can be sometimes...

sucka4chix
12-06-2013, 09:39 PM
Here's an interesting perspective: Recently had a GG escort say that girls who don't see black guys are NOT INDEPENDENT and it's the pimp doing the discriminating. I've personally had girls tell me they don't see black guys, when I know they have (and enjoyed it immensely), and without fail it's because of some dude in their life.

broncofan
12-06-2013, 10:01 PM
When someone likes an author it's usually on the basis of their writing, the very thing at issue when they read their book. But when someone uses race as a proxy for other qualities, such as trustworthiness, they are both excluding members of the class who are not offending and failing to exclude members outside the class who do have that offensive quality. What I mean is that by using race as a screen, African-Americans without the offending quality are excluded, and Caucasians who have the offensive quality you are attempting to screen for are allowed.

When equal protection cases are litigated they call this both over-inclusive or under-inclusive. It's difficult for me to believe that anyone could think that choosing one person based on relevant attributes is more offensive than excluding an entire race because of the qualities of some members.

If excluding people on the basis of race were not seen as offensive, we wouldn't have a civil rights act. Of course, we do, so perhaps Congress thought saying No Blacks was more offensive than choosing a book by your favorite book club author.

broncofan
12-06-2013, 10:06 PM
The truth can be sometimes...
Now be truthful with me about this. If an escort had an ad that said No Jews, you wouldn't be taken aback?

The question is not whether it's their prerogative to do so. But if they said it, you wouldn't think they had something against people of your background. You'd invite them for Passover maybe?

BellaBellucci
12-06-2013, 11:13 PM
Here's an interesting perspective: Recently had a GG escort say that girls who don't see black guys are NOT INDEPENDENT and it's the pimp doing the discriminating. I've personally had girls tell me they don't see black guys, when I know they have (and enjoyed it immensely), and without fail it's because of some dude in their life.

This is actually quite true, except for the reason why. I used to own an escort service, and the real reason is because pimping is supposedly a 'black man's game,' so the possibility that a black client might be a pimp in disguise is why GG escorts aren't 'allowed' to see them.

~BB~

ilove2swallow
12-07-2013, 12:54 AM
"black man's game"
wow

i just want some free tranny cum, i wont find it tho

Quiet Reflections
12-07-2013, 02:54 AM
I think the primary discussion was over whether it was racist rather than whether it is permissible. If there were no transaction involved, it would be an area wholly beyond the scope of the government's regulatory powers based on the right to privacy. As a transaction, it's not even one that's technically legal, so of course it's not going to be regulated. She can fuck who she wants, and she can fuck who she wants for money. She can also express any view she wants, and believe whatever she wants. I don't see any bearing her rights to do these things have on whether she's a racist, since it's not illegal to be one.
so you are saying you agree with me then