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top4bigbutt
10-28-2013, 03:13 AM
The Most Honest Three Minutes In Television History - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVwr9lNPWk)
This is very good

nevada64
10-28-2013, 03:40 AM
Yes! As a 50 year old American, those statements resonate with me 100%. So true.

johnlinzer
10-28-2013, 07:13 AM
No, it's The Most BITTER Three Minutes In Television History. What a putz. I mean really. Why do all of those countries have freedom? So he literally cusses out the woman next to him, and then the young female student. The sheer mysogyny is incredibly hateful. A total tool.

So his answer to the reason we are not the greatest country anymore is because we don't have MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELLING US WHAT THEY WANT US TO HEAR AND BELEIVE? We don't have their guidance and morality anymore. We have wondered off an listened to charletens and hucksters instead of THEM.

No, the reason our country is off the rails and sinking is WAY more complex than that. And it would take way more than three minutes to cover it.

Now, I'm going to bed. Good night.

bvj55
10-28-2013, 01:05 PM
So his answer to the reason we are not the greatest country anymore is because we don't have MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELLING US WHAT THEY WANT US TO HEAR AND BELEIVE? We don't have their guidance and morality anymore. We have wondered off an listened to charletens and hucksters instead of THEM.

Actually that is exactly what we have, mainstream media telling us what they want us to hear not actually what is going on.

Prospero
10-28-2013, 01:10 PM
Big fuss over a clip from a mediocre TV drama that's two or three years old by now....

Ben in LA
10-28-2013, 01:56 PM
Big fuss over a clip from a mediocre TV drama that's two or three years old by now....
That might be true, but I still agree with much of what he said.

Prospero
10-28-2013, 01:57 PM
Me too Ben.. but when I watched it in the show i thought that the writer was just using the show as a soapbox.

RallyCola
10-28-2013, 02:52 PM
as a person that doesn't like sorkin nor his holier than thou tone...all this scene does is remind me of what a pandering asshole he is.

my wife loves this show and i can't stand that she watches it.

Prospero
10-28-2013, 04:27 PM
Well Sorkin can be superb - the West Wing had its god bless america failings but, by and large, was good. This series though was mediocre, even if deep down its political heart was in the right place.

rbiller
10-28-2013, 05:58 PM
As a soon to be 69 year old liberal American, I too believe much of what he said is spot on.

Prospero
10-28-2013, 06:04 PM
Well a lot of what he said won't be allowed to be said, once you guys have President Cruz.

Jackal
10-28-2013, 06:13 PM
I'll give anyone credit for writing on the lunacy of the idea of the USA being the chosen one of the world or the greatest country. Fundamentalist members of the American civic religion are deranged, deluded and dangerous. That said, the show sucks. Sorkin should have just put together a book of essays or a one man show instead of this convoluted, ridiculous dramedy.

Stavros
10-28-2013, 07:38 PM
The irony is that just as the Reagan-mantra America is Great is usually accompanied by soupy music it's at the moment when Jeff Daniels says of greatness, 'We used to be...' that the piano starts (to get a lump into your throat) and the list begins, yet how many of those achievements he lists came from private enterprise and endeavour? It was the question that was flawed, as well as the snide remarks to 'Sorority girl'...don't know the tv series for what that's worth.

Skylancer81
10-29-2013, 03:16 AM
The Newsroom on HBO. Season 3 will start next summer. I agree with a lot of what he said, but not all. I do believe that the U.S. media reports far to much fluff and is too subjective these days. And watching the show from that point of view it pulls off a good attempt at being more objective in news reporting like we used to have before cable tv and the internet.

BellaBellucci
10-29-2013, 03:23 AM
I knew what the video would be just from the title of the thread. Well played. I <3 Aaron Sorkin!

~BB~

johnlinzer
10-29-2013, 05:30 AM
Another thing, since I awake now, how he calls her generation "the worst. generation. EVER!" Was it her generation that decimated the traditional family, the backbone of the nation, with the divorce culture? Was it her generation that polluted the world? Was it her generation that spoiled her children and didn't discipline them? Was it her generation that strip-mined our country with a godless capitalism? Was it her generation that ripped off social security? Was it her generation that chained the ankles of African Americans by lifting the yoke of responsibility from the shoulders of their men. Was it her generation that is responsible for the slaughter of 50,000,000 individual human lives? Was it her generation that got charged into Iraq, upsetting
the entire apple cart of the Middle East? I could go on, you know...

NO. It was his generation, and my generation. Her generation hasn't even started yet. HER generation will inherit a country and world that we have screwed up. Her generation will be weighted down by $17,000,000,000,000 of debt (More like 20-30 within 10 years). HER generation will be footing the bill for healthcare for tens of millions boomers and Gen-Xers that have not taken care of themselves.

And when our military is weak enough (and very soon it will be), it will be her generation that has to fight another World War with China and or Russia when they bum-rush the oilfields in the Mid East once Peak Oil happens.

How does THAT resonate???

Brindlebreed
10-29-2013, 06:11 AM
Fantastic response.

Stavros
10-29-2013, 12:06 PM
People who believe in a processional history may believe that every age is an improvement on the one that came before, and it is not difficult to find examples of this belief in recent history; but it isn't true, and is either a useless or distorting lens through which to perceive the relationship between the past and the present. The speech which Jeff Daniels makes is not based on an objective historical assessment but is entirely political in a partisan sense, its intention is to draw an imaginary line between Democrats and Republicans where the line is not in reality straight or even clearly defined.

Gillian
10-29-2013, 03:04 PM
A good show but I gave it up as Emily Mortimer was getting on my tits.

As for the clip, am I the only one who spotted the irony in the fact that the OP describes the clip as "the most honest in television history" which is surely just as presumptious as the view of the US Jeff Daniels' character is criticising ...

Prospero
10-29-2013, 03:08 PM
Yeah... I cannot abide her either.... I do not, for a single moment, find her credible as the producer of a network news programme. More like an overgrown head girl or captain of the hockey team.

serial138
11-08-2013, 12:00 AM
Another thing, since I awake now, how he calls her generation "the worst. generation. EVER!" Was it her generation that decimated the traditional family, the backbone of the nation, with the divorce culture? Was it her generation that polluted the world? Was it her generation that spoiled her children and didn't discipline them? Was it her generation that strip-mined our country with a godless capitalism? Was it her generation that ripped off social security? Was it her generation that chained the ankles of African Americans by lifting the yoke of responsibility from the shoulders of their men. Was it her generation that is responsible for the slaughter of 50,000,000 individual human lives? Was it her generation that got charged into Iraq, upsetting
the entire apple cart of the Middle East? I could go on, you know...

NO. It was his generation, and my generation. Her generation hasn't even started yet. HER generation will inherit a country and world that we have screwed up. Her generation will be weighted down by $17,000,000,000,000 of debt (More like 20-30 within 10 years). HER generation will be footing the bill for healthcare for tens of millions boomers and Gen-Xers that have not taken care of themselves.

And when our military is weak enough (and very soon it will be), it will be her generation that has to fight another World War with China and or Russia when they bum-rush the oilfields in the Mid East once Peak Oil happens.

How does THAT resonate???

You were doing a good job there until you ran off the rails with the nonsense about World War and peak oil. Good try though.

I find the Newsroom to be entertaining, if unbelievable. Really I just watch for Olivia Munn. Having a hottie like that talk economics really gets me fired up. :)

LilyRox
11-08-2013, 01:28 AM
Who gives a crap. I can settle for top 5, beats living in South Africa. Only thing this video shows is another egotistical American that wants to conquer and help build the foundation of being "#1". It's not about freedom or the economy to him it's about shitting on every other country, just like they did when the United States started developing. If he really didn't care about being "#1" he wouldn't have that slit my wrists and bring me to my coffin look in his eyes. He's just like all the rest of them, only difference is he's in touch with reality. So many American's are violent egotistical assholes, and the statistics prove it compared to other countries. #American

trish
11-08-2013, 02:23 AM
Merely Acting!