how comes so many fat transsexuals are "Pornstars"??

[VipPorn]

is my idea or I am right?

free speech, we live in a free nation

[LilyRox]

Huh wtf are you talking about.

This is the internet not America. Fuck your freedom of speech.

[maxpower]

I'm not sure where you live, given your tenuous grasp of English grammar, but I do live in a free country with free speech. I am perfectly free to say that you are a douchebag troll.

[trish]

Huh wtf are you talking about.

This is the internet not America. Fuck your freedom of speech.:iagree::iagree::claps:claps

[VipPorn]

Huh wtf are you talking about.

This is the internet not America. Fuck your freedom of speech.

you work in gay porn ? you look like a twink

[GroobySteven]

is my idea or I am right?

free speech, we live in a free nation


Bye!

[trish]

Bye!
:claps:claps:claps:claps

[ktkraft]

dnt really see alot of fat ts in porn... my question is why are so many many who put on makeup calling them selves TS. no, your a man in make up. theres a difference.

[saifan]

dnt really see alot of fat ts in porn... my question is why are so many many who put on makeup calling them selves TS. no, your a man in make up. theres a difference.

Your grammar is terrible.

Seems that is the least of your worries though.

[LilyRox]

dnt really see alot of fat ts in porn... my question is why are so many many who put on makeup calling them selves TS. no, your a man in make up. theres a difference.

This is so horrible I don't even feel like getting on your level to explain what a transsexual is.

[ktkraft]

This is so horrible I don't even feel like getting on your level to explain what a transsexual is.

what did i say wrong? if a man wants to crossdress thats fine. he is a crossdresser. but putting on a lipstick does not make you a ts. im not some internet "dbag" if you disagree simply state your point. id love to hear it

[Johnny.Blaze]

what did i say wrong? if a man wants to crossdress thats fine. he is a crossdresser. but putting on a lipstick does not make you a ts. im not some internet "dbag" if you disagree simply state your point. id love to hear it

I think we get your point. However the whole CD, TG, TS, thing has been discussed in this forum to the point of exhaustion. Hence probably why Lily said what she said.

[rockabilly]

Its like some people think cucumbers taste better pickled.

You like what you like let others like what they like.

[Johnny.Blaze]

Its like some people think cucumbers taste better pickled.

You like what you like let others like what they like.

OOOhhh, I tried a pickled cucumber the other day - Barf !!!
Ok, sorry for going off topic. You may return to your regularly scheduled blunder now - lol

[Quiet Reflections]

OOOhhh, I tried a pickled cucumber the other day - Barf !!!
Ok, sorry for going off topic. You may return to your regularly scheduled blunder now - lol
You do know pickled cucumbers are just called pickles right?

[GroobySteven]

You do know pickled cucumbers are just called pickles right?

Called gherkins where I come from.

[GroobySteven]

what did i say wrong? if a man wants to crossdress thats fine. he is a crossdresser. but putting on a lipstick does not make you a ts. im not some internet "dbag" if you disagree simply state your point. id love to hear it

You said "why do so many transsexuals ..." - if they say they're a transsexual chances are they are. You'll be following your buddy on the way out if you want to continue to be a douchebag - you were off-topic and full of douchebaggery.

[EvaCassini]

omg I love pickles! I could eat them all day!

[Ben]

is my idea or I am right?

free speech, we live in a free nation

Like who? Ryder Monroe? Don't think so.
Rafaela Ninfeta? Hardly.
Bailey Jay? Nope.
Mylena Bismark? Oh, yep! Look at that chubbiness -- ha ha!

[Quiet Reflections]

on topic- having watched a good bit of porn in my time I have to say I haven't noticed a huge amount of larger girls in Ts porn, and as a guy that isn't into larger girl I have to admit the ones I do see look pretty damn good. There is so much porn out there why get on a forum to complain about something you don't like when it is just easier to go find something that gets you off.

[Ben]

Porn caters to every taste: whether you like large women or thin or big breasts or big dicks or small dicks.... Porn taps, as it were, into your specific taste.
I gravitate to TG women with large penises and who are thin.
Some don't. It's a matter of taste.
I like Rafaela. She has a fairly large penis. But is flat chested. And fit.
Some don't like her. Find her lack of breasts unattractive. Which is fine.
As attraction is subjective.
So, again, porn caters to what you like.
I like Mint. A lot of guys don't like her. Which is fine.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Wow ur so wrong... Fat tgirls are few and far between in this porn world! I should know I am the fat one in this biz!!! Even some girls who are no where near my size are considered fat! Then in the BBW porn world I am small! Im like a size zero over there! LOL

But funny thing is people have issues with size and I will say this over and over its a reason girls have eating disorders. A guy today on Twitter told Jesse, she was thick! That is outrageous! Jesse is far from being fat! That can go to a girls head and the way she looks at herself. I on the other hand could care less what someone says about my body, I live a good life and not unhealthy!

[Ben in LA]

I like PHAT women...Pretty Hot And Tempting...

[Johnny.Blaze]

You said "why do so many transsexuals ..." - if they say they're a transsexual chances are they are. You'll be following your buddy on the way out if you want to continue to be a douchebag - you were off-topic and full of douchebaggery.

:dead-1:

[nysprod]

Threads like this should always be deleted because the op has one goal in mind; to insult, incite and create other general obnoxiousness...and if by some wild stretch of the imagination it's not meant to be malicious, it should be removed for it's plain stupidity.

[LilyRox]

Threads like this should always be deleted because the op has one goal in mind; to insult, incite and create other general obnoxiousness...and if by some wild stretch of the imagination it's not meant to be malicious, it should be removed for it's plain stupidity.

Yeah. He called me a twink LOL

[Wendy Summers]

Threads like this should always be deleted because the op has one goal in mind; to insult, incite and create other general obnoxiousness...and if by some wild stretch of the imagination it's not meant to be malicious, it should be removed for it's plain stupidity.

If we start deleting threads for stupidity, most of the discussions threads (my own included) would vanish... :banana:

[nysprod]

Yeah. He called me a twink LOL

Proves my point...


If we start deleting threads for stupidity, most of the discussions threads (my own included) would vanish... :banana:

Lol...yeah, but yours are dumb fun!

[dderek123]

Pickles taste great on a pulled pork sandwhich. Sooooo goood.

[dderek123]

Threads like this should always be deleted because the op has one goal in mind; to insult, incite and create other general obnoxiousness...and if by some wild stretch of the imagination it's not meant to be malicious, it should be removed for it's plain stupidity.

Yep. It's a really obvious troll thread.

[youngblood61]

:trolls

[ktkraft]

I think we get your point. However the whole CD, TG, TS, thing has been discussed in this forum to the point of exhaustion. Hence probably why Lily said what she said.

ahh, i havent taken part in any discussions here til recently. its all new to me.


You said "why do so many transsexuals ..." - if they say they're a transsexual chances are they are. You'll be following your buddy on the way out if you want to continue to be a douchebag - you were off-topic and full of douchebaggery.

my point is, putting on makeup doesnt make you one. now if you actually identify as a woman and make the effort to look as you identify, then yes you are. but putting on lipstick is simply crossdressing, which is fine too...

sensitivity is high here. i tried to make it obvrious i wasnt trying to offend by saying im not trying to be a douche, its my point of view, no need to be angered, state yours, we can have an actual talk. not a hissy fit where we have to fight each other

[runningdownthatdream]

The original post - even with the few words written - mimics the style of a certain long-time poster here. One who is TS, whose first language isn't English, and who's famous for having eclectic 'humour'.

[flabbybody]

Yeah. He called me a twink LOL
o/p sleeps with the fishes

[robertlouis]

Sometimes they really are trolls. On other occasions, they're just irredeemably stupid....

[tsmounting]

Just like the author of the OP is at liberty to switch porn, surely the members of this forum are equally able to ignore the post and say nothing. If you think it's a troll then don't feed it! If you wish to partake in the discussion continue at leisure, if you don't then don't simple. I hope i don't get banned for expressing an unpopular opinion! :nervous:

[LilyRox]

my point is, putting on makeup doesnt make you one. now if you actually identify as a woman and make the effort to look as you identify, then yes you are. but putting on lipstick is simply crossdressing, which is fine too...


Transsexualism is a state of being, not how passable one is. There isn't a book that says they have to be so-so passable to be transsexual. If someone says they are transsexual then they are! How are you to tell people they aren't transsexual just because they can't pass well? You aren't a mind reader. It doesn't even matter if they don't even dress up it's about what's inside and how they feel. It's not about how many surgeries they get or how much make up and dresses they put on.

[robertlouis]

Transsexualism is a state of being, not how passable one is. There isn't a book that says they have to be so-so passable to be transsexual. If someone says they are transsexual then they are! How are you to tell people they aren't transsexual just because they can't pass well? You aren't a mind reader. It doesn't even matter if they don't even dress up it's about what's inside and how they feel. It's not about how many surgeries they get or how much make up and dresses they put on.

True and well said, Lily. :iagree:

There are some guys who simply don't get it and think that it's all about them, and that, sadly, will never change.

[dderek123]

Just like the author of the OP is at liberty to switch porn, surely the members of this forum are equally able to ignore the post and say nothing. If you think it's a troll then don't feed it! If you wish to partake in the discussion continue at leisure, if you don't then don't simple. I hope i don't get banned for expressing an unpopular opinion! :nervous:

When people on the internet are being dumb it's fun to call them out on it. :banana:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-15283-Deal-With-It-Sliding-Ice-Bro-07dP.gif

[ktkraft]

Transsexualism is a state of being, not how passable one is. There isn't a book that says they have to be so-so passable to be transsexual. If someone says they are transsexual then they are! How are you to tell people they aren't transsexual just because they can't pass well? You aren't a mind reader. It doesn't even matter if they don't even dress up it's about what's inside and how they feel. It's not about how many surgeries they get or how much make up and dresses they put on.

it has nothing to do with how passable one is, i agree. there are plenty of ts who are very popular but to me i am not a fan. i still recognize them as ts. because they dont just say i am a ts. or a woman (speaking on the topic of purely m2f ofcourse), they try to be. they wear makeup. dress as a woman, and throughout their day, act the same as a woman. i was simply saying their are lots of men who put on makeup and like to put their video in ts categories or post ads a ts. when they have a full beard and have done nothing to even show feminine qualities. these i consider a CD. why? because they have not made any sort of effort to even identify as a woman. even if i write now said i am a ts, and go and just put on a wig. no one is going to take that serious, you just come of as a very confused individual or someone who FANTASIZES about being the opposite sex but on paper will still always put male. thats my point...


i recieved a lot of negativity for my thoughts. its funny. i never attacked any individual. LGBT community is always under attack for 'different' views, yet so much attacking is done here lol. oh well, the pic threads make the community worth it :jerkoff

[Johnny.Blaze]

it has nothing to do with how passable one is, i agree. there are plenty of ts who are very popular but to me i am not a fan. i still recognize them as ts. because they dont just say i am a ts. or a woman (speaking on the topic of purely m2f ofcourse), they try to be. they wear makeup. dress as a woman, and throughout their day, act the same as a woman. i was simply saying their are lots of men who put on makeup and like to put their video in ts categories or post ads a ts. when they have a full beard and have done nothing to even show feminine qualities. these i consider a CD. why? because they have not made any sort of effort to even identify as a woman. even if i write now said i am a ts, and go and just put on a wig. no one is going to take that serious, you just come of as a very confused individual or someone who FANTASIZES about being the opposite sex but on paper will still always put male. thats my point...


i recieved a lot of negativity for my thoughts. its funny. i never attacked any individual. LGBT community is always under attack for 'different' views, yet so much attacking is done here lol. oh well, the pic threads make the community worth it :jerkoff

I do believe I understand where you're coming from. And yes I do believe also that certain topics here can ignite a hail storm of bullets. I'm sure you meant no real disrespect. My guess is many people just get upset with having the same questions asked. Even though you did say that you haven't been around the board much recently. There was a discussion about this sort of topic last week I believe when someone mentioned how he thought there weren't many "Real" black shemales. How he felt most where just guys with makeup and wigs. And that started a whole shit storm of backlash. But none the less. I don't see really anyone here posting pics of themselves with a beard or what not, and saying they are TS. I think if you do see that, then perhaps they are just confused as to what a TS really is. I do think it's wrong however for some of these board members to call you stupid or put you down. 2 wrongs don't make a right...

[GroobyKrissy]

Shortened and edited by me to highlight the point, bold also mine:


it has nothing to do with how passable one is, i agree. ...i still recognize them as ts. because... they try to be.

Look... don't say you "agree" when you clearly don't. The bold directly contradicts the non-bold.

This is the issue that I have with this point of view... you disguise your "judgement" behind a clever veneer of faulty and illogical thought processes out of fear (ironically, of judgement). Just say clearly that you base "TS status" on looks... it makes things much easier for everyone to understand your shallowness instead of all this BS'ing. I respect an opinion based on intellectual honesty but I have no patience with people who pretend to hold one "open-minded" view and then go on to excuse a bigoted one.

If this is, in fact, what you really believe, your premise is faulty.

So a genetically born female who doesn't ever "actively" pursue (in your words, "...[make] any sort of effort...") those things that society deems "feminine" ceases to be "female"...? She likes beer, wears pants, burps in public, never wants children, is ambitious, doesn't care about shaving, etc. = not female since she is not making any sort of effort to even identify as a woman?

Or more to the point... if you don't eat fried chicken and watermelon every day, you're not really Black?

Do you see how actually bigoted your thought process is?

You're postulating that gender identification is a matter of "making the effort"?

Who then is to say what is "effort" enough? You?
Who judges the reconciliation of one's personal picture of "female" to those of society? You?

You cannot logically state that "TS status" is not based on looks and then go about judging people based on looks... HOWEVER IRRECONCILABLE THEIR look is to YOUR OWN picture of "female" or "male". Your premise leaves no room for individuality... something that humanity is built upon.

[ktkraft]

Shortened and edited by me to highlight the point, bold also mine:



Look... don't say you "agree" when you clearly don't. The bold directly contradicts the non-bold.

This is the issue that I have with this point of view... you disguise your "judgement" behind a clever veneer of faulty and illogical thought processes out of fear (ironically, of judgement). Just say clearly that you base "TS status" on looks... it makes things much easier for everyone to understand your shallowness instead of all this BS'ing. I respect an opinion based on intellectual honesty but I have no patience with people who pretend to hold one "open-minded" view and then go on to excuse a bigoted one.

If this is, in fact, what you really believe, your premise is faulty.

So a genetically born female who doesn't ever "actively" pursue (in your words, "...[make] any sort of effort...") those things that society deems "feminine" ceases to be "female"...? She likes beer, wears pants, burps in public, never wants children, is ambitious, doesn't care about shaving, etc. = not female since she is not making any sort of effort to even identify as a woman?

Or more to the point... if you don't eat fried chicken and watermelon every day, you're not really Black?

Do you see how actually bigoted your thought process is?

You're postulating that gender identification is a matter of "making the effort"?

Who then is to say what is "effort" enough? You?
Who judges the reconciliation of one's personal picture of "female" to those of society? You?

You cannot logically state that "TS status" is not based on looks and then go about judging people based on looks... HOWEVER IRRECONCILABLE THEIR look is to YOUR OWN picture of "female" or "male". Your premise leaves no room for individuality... something that humanity is built upon.

maybe you misread. no its not on looks, but effort. it would be completely redundant for me to simply restate or reword what i said above but ill do one little statement. a genetic man who fantasizes about being a woman, will put on makeup, throw on a wig, and prance about his room. while a genetic man who believes he is a woman, will act as such all the time. maybe will still dont understand each other, or we just have different view points. your black comment did make me laugh, as it is a bit off because i mean come on now, who doesnt like fried chicken and watermelon? :) i bid you farewell (in my british voice) :cheers:


to the pic threads i go :whistle:

[trish]

no its not on looks, but effort.Clearly, KT, you're not putting enough effort into being a man. I'm beginning to wonder if you even dress like one. Shouldn't I be able to identify you as a male, before you count as one? Post a picture please, so we can judge.

On the other hand, we could just agree you're a man regardless of how you look or how much effort you put into being male or whether or not I can identify your gender. It's is first a matter of self-identification. All the rest comes later.

[ktkraft]

Clearly, KT, you're not putting enough effort into being a man. I'm beginning to wonder if you even dress like one. Shouldn't I be able to identify you as a male, before you count as one? Post a picture please, so we can judge.

On the other hand, we could just agree you're a man regardless of how you look or how much effort you put into being male or whether or not I can identify your gender. It's is first a matter of self-identification. All the rest comes later.

Alright :thumbsup:

[tsmounting]

Thanks, I am dealing with it. Simply saying if you are going to get upset instead of having fun or engaging then move on and don't piss and moan when you can just ignore.

[Quiet Reflections]

it has nothing to do with how passable one is, i agree. there are plenty of ts who are very popular but to me i am not a fan. i still recognize them as ts. because they dont just say i am a ts. or a woman (speaking on the topic of purely m2f ofcourse), they try to be. they wear makeup. dress as a woman, and throughout their day, act the same as a woman. i was simply saying their are lots of men who put on makeup and like to put their video in ts categories or post ads a ts. when they have a full beard and have done nothing to even show feminine qualities. these i consider a CD. why? because they have not made any sort of effort to even identify as a woman. even if i write now said i am a ts, and go and just put on a wig. no one is going to take that serious, you just come of as a very confused individual or someone who FANTASIZES about being the opposite sex but on paper will still always put male. thats my point...


i recieved a lot of negativity for my thoughts. its funny. i never attacked any individual. LGBT community is always under attack for 'different' views, yet so much attacking is done here lol. oh well, the pic threads make the community worth it :jerkoff
so if a Mtf decides to transition but feels as though she is a butch lesbian and not really feminine or into feminine thing would you still consider her a Ts woman or would you think she is just a man fantasizing about being a woman? I ask because there are a good amount of butch trans lesbians that don't do the whole make up and dress thing but are still women regardless of their lack of effort to be more stereotypically female..

[EvaCassini]

Gender is Identity. My gender is Female, I identify as Female, thus I look and act female. It's a brain thing.

Being "butch" ( Gimmie' a damn beer! ) or "girly" ( I would like a Fruiti-booty Martini ) is a preference of how "female" said MtF prefers to look and act....

There are variations:
Girly Female ( Teehehe )
Butch Female ( Belch!!! )
Girly Butch Female ( Beer please...Belch...teehee )
Butchy Girl Female ( Bourbon NOW...then I want a Fuzzy Pink Peach Cock Knobbler )
Girly Butchy Tomboy Girly Butchy Girly Girly Female ( Teehee, she said cock! Where's my beer-coolatta and Tequila shot? OMG I'm so drunk, I want some pussy NOW! Belch, excuse me...teehee...hehehe )


:p

[iagodelgado]

^^^^ Like + 1.

[EvaCassini]

thanks, wonder who didnt LOL