TS Fans! Do straight companies treat TS site members differently?

[TSPornFan]

This question is for the TS fans who pay for their porn!

There are some straight companies who also make TS porn. Some of these companies are Reality Junkies, Reality Kings, Devil's Films, Kink, etc. Sometimes I get the vibe that they treat their TS customers differently. There are a few examples.

Devil's Films have changed their schedule updates for TS content. TS fans get one update per week from that month's DVD. On the other hand Straight DVD's scenes are released much faster, and every scene from such DVD will be released within 7 to 10 days. TS fans have to wait an entire month for a complete DVD while straight fans only have to wait a week.

Reality Junkies films TS content on DVDs along with their straight DVDs. However, they will only add their straight DVDs to their official site. They will not add their TS films to the official site at all. It's as if they don't want their straight fans finding out about their TS films or only want to please their straight customers. Why shoot TS scenes and not release them on their site?

Then there is Reality Kings. Reality Kings does not advertise or recognize Tranny Surprise on the main site. If you've never heard of Tranny Surprise then the non-members area will keep you in the dark. It is never mention on the site. Updates are not shown on the main members front page. The only way to find the site is by scrolling down the list of sites on the site's list toolbar. Again it is as if they're hiding the content from straight viewers.

Kink is very silly when it comes to this matter. Kink updates their straight sites at reasonable times during the early morning. However, TS fans must wait longer for their updates. Sometimes the updates are posted late at night.

[Nikka]

I was a member of jesse jane and jenna jameson websites years ago and they never update and they never reply on their boards and they never nothing

[LilyRox]

I can't believe people still actually pay for porn. It seems so stupid. The only site I could see paying for would be kink.com, just because their content is so professional, updated, and so high quality.

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[amberskyi]

I can't believe people still actually pay for porn. It seems so stupid. The only site I could see paying for would be kink.com, just because their content is so professional, updated, and so high quality.


did you really just say that here?

[bluesoul]

I can't believe people still actually pay for porn. It seems so stupid. The only site I could see paying for would be kink.com, just because their content is so professional, updated, and so high quality.



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[Johnny.Blaze]

I can't believe people still actually pay for porn. It seems so stupid. The only site I could see paying for would be kink.com, just because their content is so professional, updated, and so high quality.



You must be in the dark - lol. To actually say what you did, on a site forum that actually promotes numerous websites is very odd.

I'm honestly so tired of people talking about Tube sites. From someone who actually has been a member to numerous sites. Let me give you a clear cut reason why it's better to actually have a membership to a site than to just go tubing for it.

My main reasons:
1. Content is far better in quality when you're a member of a site. Tube sites have those low ass quality flash vids. I can't stand that.
2. When you are a member of a site. You are helping the industry grow.
If everything was free, then sites like Grooby ect. just wouldn't be in business. The wouldn't be able to afford to pay the models.
3. If you're a member of a solo model site. You're helping them create a living for themselves. If they have no income from sales, then how are they suppose to pay the bills associated with running a site.

People that just think they can go tube something never realize any of what I've stated.

Tube site owners can go suck on a donkey's dick. They honestly all deserve to be shut down, and/or fined for the damage they cause.

Now I'm talking about full tube sites here. The ones that have full videos and basically steal everything. On the other hand, there are many tube sites that actually help the industry. By showing samples and what not. I feel without them, then promotion is limited.

[LilyRox]

did you really just say that here?

It's cool it's not illegal

[LilyRox]

You must be in the dark - lol. To actually say what you did, on a site forum that actually promotes numerous websites is very odd.

I'm honestly so tired of people talking about Tube sites. From someone who actually has been a member to numerous sites. Let me give you a clear cut reason why it's better to actually have a membership to a site than to just go tubing for it.

My main reasons:
1. Content is far better in quality when you're a member of a site. Tube sites have those low ass quality flash vids. I can't stand that.
2. When you are a member of a site. You are helping the industry grow.
If everything was free, then sites like Grooby ect. just wouldn't be in business. The wouldn't be able to afford to pay the models.
3. If you're a member of a solo model site. You're helping them create a living for themselves. If they have no income from sales, then how are they suppose to pay the bills associated with running a site.

People that just think they can go tube something never realize any of what I've stated.

Tube site owners can go suck on a donkey's dick. They honestly all deserve to be shut down, and/or fined for the damage they cause.

Now I'm talking about full tube sites here. The ones that have full videos and basically steal everything. On the other hand, there are many tube sites that actually help the industry. By showing samples and what not. I feel without them, then promotion is limited.

Yeah I agree tube quality is much less

[LilyRox]

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Woh what's up with that?

[GroobySteven]

Woh what's up with that?

Thought it was quite clear :ignore:

[LilyRox]

I wasn't being an ass

[youngblood61]

You must be in the dark - lol. To actually say what you did, on a site forum that actually promotes numerous websites is very odd.

I'm honestly so tired of people talking about Tube sites. From someone who actually has been a member to numerous sites. Let me give you a clear cut reason why it's better to actually have a membership to a site than to just go tubing for it.

My main reasons:
1. Content is far better in quality when you're a member of a site. Tube sites have those low ass quality flash vids. I can't stand that.
2. When you are a member of a site. You are helping the industry grow.
If everything was free, then sites like Grooby ect. just wouldn't be in business. The wouldn't be able to afford to pay the models.
3. If you're a member of a solo model site. You're helping them create a living for themselves. If they have no income from sales, then how are they suppose to pay the bills associated with running a site.

People that just think they can go tube something never realize any of what I've stated.

Tube site owners can go suck on a donkey's dick. They honestly all deserve to be shut down, and/or fined for the damage they cause.

Now I'm talking about full tube sites here. The ones that have full videos and basically steal everything. On the other hand, there are many tube sites that actually help the industry. By showing samples and what not. I feel without them, then promotion is limited.:iagree:

[GroobySteven]

I wasn't being an ass

Promoting the use and showing people how to see stolen content, gets the pointy hat and the corner.

[LilyRox]

Sorry I forgot that in Europe the word "ass" is a lot less sensitive. Maybe I over reacted.

[Rabbiteyes]

Sorry I forgot that in Europe the word "ass" is a lot less sensitive. Maybe I over reacted.

One would also think ass is a compliment on a TS forum.

Guys want a piece of ass...but they don't want a full ass? It is confusing if you think about it too much (like I'm doing now :|

[Nikka]

I can't believe people still actually pay for porn. It seems so stupid. The only site I could see paying for would be kink.com, just because their content is so professional, updated, and so high quality.

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watching your avatar pic and your comment u look like a stupid kid to me

[Wendy Summers]

I wasn't being an ass

Given a number of us here produce our own content, and tube websites often feature stolen clips, it's no wonder your post was seen as negative. Everytime one of my clips is on a tube site, the loss of revenue makes it tougher for me to keep making porn. Libby, Nikka, Sammi, Michelle, Wendy Williams myself and many others all owners of our own content. That's why you ought to buy porn; it's our real livelihoods you are effecting.

[nysprod]

It wouldn't surprise me if porn producers own some of the tube sites...maybe not the ones that show full videos, but something more like SheGods where they have promo clips, basically the same ones as on their own home pages.

[christianxxx]

wow - thanks for not mentioning me in there Wendy...WTF

and nysprod - of course they do - the global porn conglomerate Manwin owns: keezmovies, pornhub, youporn, tube8 and also owns brazzers, twistys, digital playground, wicked, playboy tv, mofos, and they just bought reality kings too

[nysprod]

wow - thanks for not mentioning me in there Wendy...WTF

and nysprod - of course they do - the global porn conglomerate Manwin owns: keezmovies, pornhub, youporn, tube8 and also owns brazzers, twistys, digital playground, wicked, playboy tv, mofos, and they just bought reality kings too

So in other words, even with all the free stuff available, there's still a lot of money out there too...

[LibertyHarkness]

there is still lots of money to be had yes ... but its just harder for people to harness that

[nysprod]

there is still lots of money to be had yes ... but its just harder for people to harness that

Well, it's like any other business...some people own one coffee shop, another person owns Starbucks.

[Rabbiteyes]

Well, it's like any other business...some people own one coffee shop, another person owns Starbucks.

And lots of grinding? :o

[christianxxx]

Manwin is just buying right now with massive loans, whether or not they are actually turning a profit remains to be seen.

You should look at it the other way around, if wicked, penthouse, digital playground, etc were making money - would they sell out to Manwin in the first place?

[TSPornFan]

Well, it's like any other business...some people own one coffee shop, another person owns Starbucks.

It's not like any other business. Starbucks cannot steal and sell McDonald's coffee.


Manwin is just buying right now with massive loans, whether or not they are actually turning a profit remains to be seen.

You should look at it the other way around, if wicked, penthouse, digital playground, etc were making money - would they sell out to Manwin in the first place?

How do you know if they own Wicked? They claim to only operate and mange the site. They claim that they do not own Wicked or Penthouse. Is there some other article where Manwin admitted the truth?

[MacShreach]

Christian, not for the first time, has nailed it. (I'm consistently impressed with your analytical abilities by the way.)

What remains to be seen is, firstly, as he suggests, whether Manwin's pockets are deep enough to sustain their strategy to its eventual conclusion, whatever that is, and I think only Manwin's board knows.

Secondly, and far more importantly, how will new content be financed if their model is developed to that conclusion?

[nysprod]

Manwin is just buying right now with massive loans, whether or not they are actually turning a profit remains to be seen.

You should look at it the other way around, if wicked, penthouse, digital playground, etc were making money - would they sell out to Manwin in the first place?

Could be just owners cashing out...some of these owners could start new sites...some may have production deals with manwin to sell content...lots of reasons...and manwin can't get loans if they're not making money...and buying things with other people's money is smart allthough banks usually won't lend to porn businesses.

[nysprod]

It's not like any other business. Starbucks cannot steal and sell McDonald's coffee.





They can buy stock in McDonalds, enough to get seats on it's board.

[Wendy Summers]

wow - thanks for not mentioning me in there Wendy...WTF

and nysprod - of course they do - the global porn conglomerate Manwin owns: keezmovies, pornhub, youporn, tube8 and also owns brazzers, twistys, digital playground, wicked, playboy tv, mofos, and they just bought reality kings too

Sorry... I've been gone for a few weeks... I've lost the touch and magical charm I had sorry. I really didn't mean to leave you off :(

[christianxxx]

nysprod - the loans were from overseas - allegedly from money that isn't exactly squeaky clean (supposedly the amount was something like 225 million)

you are correct - the owner of Twisty's (shap) sold for something like 8-10 million - and manwin bought him out solely bc he owned 3 profitable tube sites (the gay one was the big one)

franklin - you are correct - they just own the marketing and distribution arm of wicked and penthouse.

nysprod - when they cash out, there is a non compete stipulation.

MacShreash - thats the 225 million dollar question. there are many cracks developing in the Manwin armor supposedly.

I know that Brazzers/Men.com had a money hiccup earlier this year and had to cut back production. I know that Brazzers hasn't opened up any new sites in a long time (new sites mean new and more money). You can see some small cracks just by looking from the outside as old scenes are being put out by Brazzers and some saturdays they fail to update. I just think that their business model is being tested, but to be honest Manwin are a bunch of smart guys with lots of good ideas. Let's see what happens.

[nysprod]

nysprod - the loans were from overseas - allegedly from money that isn't exactly squeaky clean (supposedly the amount was something like 225 million)



If that's true than obviously there is money being made.


nysprod - when they cash out, there is a non compete stipulation.



Those non-competes usually aren't worth the paper they're printed on and at best, they can only be for a limited amount of time to be enforcable.

[christianxxx]

you misunderstood - the loan was allegedly from the Ukraine from an illegal enterprise outside of porn

that's easy to say on paper, but when you get sued for millions....

[fred41]

you misunderstood - the loan was allegedly from the Ukraine from an illegal enterprise outside of porn

that's easy to say on paper, but when you get sued for millions....

oneyMay aunderingLay.....

[LibertyHarkness]

lol got to love those russians :) investing money

[Ben in LA]

Tell Manwin NOT to buy Grooby...or SMC!

[TSPornFan]

Tell Manwin NOT to buy Grooby...or SMC!

I doubt that will happen. I remember Seanchi saying that he has sued Manwin for illegally putting Grooby content on Tube sites. I wouldn't be surprised if SMC has done the same.

Manwin doesn't want anything to do with TS porn. They only own Tranny Surprise because they brought Reality Kings. A former Brazzers employee named Gprime on the boards said that Manwin does not want to make TS content.