escort bottoms?

[lixx]

I see that some escorts don't like their clients being bottoms.

but why not just advertise a bottom-only service? :banana:

figures, eh? most men into ts's like the cock, hence they want to get fucked lol.. it's not the cock exclusively, but it's still part of it lol.... ;)

[danthepoetman]

but why not just advertise a bottom-only service?
But many of them do!...

[MacShreach]

I see that some escorts don't like their clients being bottoms.

but why not just advertise a bottom-only service? :banana:

figures, eh? most men into ts's like the cock, hence they want to get fucked lol.. it's not the cock exclusively, but it's still part of it lol.... ;)
Here we go again...:deadhorse

Anything to prove that 'bottoms' are a majority. :jerkoff

[Prospero]

Tedious ... there is so much prejudice here it still shocks me. Top, bottom "over under sideways down"... everyone... why not just enjoy what you enjoy and stop castigating people who are different!

[LexusFire]

WORD!!
Do the research, ask the questions, enjoy the time!
Everyone is different!

[nysprod]

Here we go again...:deadhorse

Anything to prove that 'bottoms' are a majority. :jerkoff

I think bottoms are the majority...


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=589067&stc=1&d=1370865182

I love both of these two sweetie-pies. I want them both. A dream session is to have both of them repeatedly rape my ass over and over. If polygamy with trannys was legal Id marry them both.

[tsadriana]

are bottoms and tops ....everything for everyone

[MacShreach]

I think bottoms are the majority...
44%? Yeah OK. Here, maybe.

Actually it doesn't bother me, I couldn't care less what their proclivities are. It's just, why the endless troll posts? Why the constant assertion that just because they like dick in their arses, then everybody who is attracted to transwomen must also like it?

Maybe they have a need for reassurance. So, okay boys, you are REAL men. Please feel reassured.

That do?

[lixx]

But many of them do!...

true, but that's not the point. if some escorts are pissed off at fucking men and not getting fucked, then so what? the reason they go to a TS escort is to get fucked. it's like having a steakhouse and complaining that people don't often order salad, what does one fucking expect? lol.. accept that's what your clients want, and modify your services accordingly lol..

as for reassurance for bottoms, how so? i think most guys who are bottoms don't give a fuck either way. they know they want cock and the mixture of a woman's body and cock is what gets them. as for real men, lol.. maybe bottoms are more open about what they like, or don't give a shit about dopey-ass stereotypes of society. i doubt even gay men think that bottoms are less manly. some do probably, but i doubt it's common.

if a top thinks he's "more of a man" for only fucking, then maybe he's not confident enough to admit he's attracted in some sense to the cock, or uses some bullshit rationalisation to prove he's all that. then again, quite a few in society would say that fucking anybody with a penis is gay, no matter how it's rationalised.

[lixx]

44%? Yeah OK. Here, maybe.

Actually it doesn't bother me, I couldn't care less what their proclivities are. It's just, why the endless troll posts? Why the constant assertion that just because they like dick in their arses, then everybody who is attracted to transwomen must also like it?

Who says this lulz..? As said, if they like dick in their arses, it may mean they're more honest about their attraction. why is it gay men who are truly into men don't see bottoming as "bad" by and large? they cannot say that a woman's body/manner is an attraction, since that's obvious bullshit.

Maybe they have a need for reassurance. So, okay boys, you are REAL men. Please feel reassured.

That do?

lol... I would say the definition of a man is socially constructed. I think men who say they only like to top TSs are hiding something, or cannot admit to their true selves, or are too dim not to accept what common society/pop culture tells them. You do realise that some tops may be so since they tried bottoming and didn't like it? Or vice versa? yeah, so sex should not be about pleasure.. The thing is though is that liking TSs in itself is a (even by modern standards) "far-out" thing, but i don't give a shit really, people always do and will have their motivations including aggressively asserting how manly they are..

[danthepoetman]

true, but that's not the point.
So what IS the point, Lixx? If you want to know what a girl does, just pick up the phone and ask her first, that's all.
Or then what? If we don't want to get fucked in the ass and say it, that means we're lying or bragging, it means that we're inauthentic and false? Do you really need to convince yourself of something like that? Or yet again, do you mean to say that t-girls who are reluctant to bottom are bitches or hypocrits or unfair? I mean, from the get go, you know that a transsexual woman is someone who is born in the wrong body, who suffers immensely to change that, and whom of course, basically wants to be A WOMAN. So why is it surprising or shoking that she might (I say "might") be reluctant in topping?
I can understand that people have different tastes, and that often, there is fantasies produced by porn, but it's real people we're talking about, Lixx! Some people indeed prefer to bottom, some to top, and that's ok. But you sound frustrated that they wouldn't do or prefer what you, yourself like!
Frankly, I don't understand what YOUR point is...

[robertlouis]

Who says this lulz..? As said, if they like dick in their arses, it may mean they're more honest about their attraction. why is it gay men who are truly into men don't see bottoming as "bad" by and large? they cannot say that a woman's body/manner is an attraction, since that's obvious bullshit.

lol... I would say the definition of a man is socially constructed. I think men who say they only like to top TSs are hiding something, or cannot admit to their true selves, or are too dim not to accept what common society/pop culture tells them. You do realise that some tops may be so since they tried bottoming and didn't like it? Or vice versa? yeah, so sex should not be about pleasure.. The thing is though is that liking TSs in itself is a (even by modern standards) "far-out" thing, but i don't give a shit really, people always do and will have their motivations including aggressively asserting how manly they are..

You seem unable to accept that some of us who are tops simply prefer our sex that way, and that somehow we are in denial. I like petite feminine girls who like to be treated as such. Nothing wrong with that.

Well, the logical extension of that is that we don't enjoy topping but only do it because to do otherwise would deliver an unpalatable truth. Yep, every time I'm topping a girl I'm spending the whole time wracked with guilt and knowing that I shouldn't be doing it.

That, my friend, is beyond parody. Yes, there are lots of guys, probably a large majority, on HA who are fascinated by the cock, worship it and want it inside them. That's their prerogative. I don't judge and I don't comment, and it doesn't bother me one bit.

But please, can't you accept that those of us who are 100% tops enjoy our sex that way simply because, well, we do? Don't dump any insecurities that you might have on guys like me.

[danthepoetman]

That's very well put, Robert Louis.

[Prospero]

This issue seems to bring out the truly obnoxious in some people - who perhaps should just think their thoughts and not post. The hostility that men and girls who prefer to top feel towards those who like to bottom and vice versa. For Christ's sake. Just accept different folks like different strokes and shut up.

[MacShreach]

This issue seems to bring out the truly obnoxious in some people - who perhaps should just think their thoughts and not post. The hostility that men and girls who prefer to top feel towards those who like to bottom and vice versa. For Christ's sake. Just accept different folks like different strokes and shut up.

That's all very well, but this thread was started by an individual who has a years-long history of making inflammatory posts attacking others who do not share his preference. I will close here now but you have this entirely the wrong way round--it is very rarely and certainly not here, 'men and girls who prefer to top' doing the attacking, but responding to lies and character assassination from men--and it is only ever men--who prefer to 'bottom' but who feel free to say anything they like about the rest of us, including that we are in denial, that we are, and, I quote, 'hiding something, or cannot admit to their true selves, or are too dim' not, apparently, to want to share THEIR tastes.

[Prospero]

I did say it cuts both ways mac and no i don't have it the wrong way round. There are constant attacks on the guys who like to bottom too. My plea is for some MUTUAL respect. The op was indeed obnoxious though.

[Genetic]

Different strokes for different folks innit? Literally.

[amberskyi]

This issue seems to bring out the truly obnoxious in some people - who perhaps should just think their thoughts and not post. The hostility that men and girls who prefer to top feel towards those who like to bottom and vice versa. For Christ's sake. Just accept different folks like different strokes and shut up.

Kinda understandable why the girls feel a certain way if you really think about it

[Prospero]

I do understand Amber... (as a TS many - probably most - are leaving behind the things that defined their gender identity as male and this includes actively fucking people)

But it is still unproductive and creates bad atmospheres here when those who are 100 per cent tops and those who prefer t bottoms are forever sniping at each other. Everyone simply needs to be more accepting of difference is my position really.

[robertlouis]

That's all very well, but this thread was started by an individual who has a years-long history of making inflammatory posts attacking others who do not share his preference. I will close here now but you have this entirely the wrong way round--it is very rarely and certainly not here, 'men and girls who prefer to top' doing the attacking, but responding to lies and character assassination from men--and it is only ever men--who prefer to 'bottom' but who feel free to say anything they like about the rest of us, including that we are in denial, that we are, and, I quote, 'hiding something, or cannot admit to their true selves, or are too dim' not, apparently, to want to share THEIR tastes.

I tend to agree with what you say, Mac, but then I'm a top-only too. If I was bottom-only I might just as easily see it the other way round (as it were :wiggle: ! ). You pays your money.....

[danthepoetman]

This issue seems to bring out the truly obnoxious in some people - who perhaps should just think their thoughts and not post. The hostility that men and girls who prefer to top feel towards those who like to bottom and vice versa. For Christ's sake. Just accept different folks like different strokes and shut up.
I agree, of course, Prospero. Of course we should all accept differences and respect everyone's choices. And Robert Louis, you are obviously right: being in the opposite position, we would see things differently. Then again, you have to admit something here, which is a constant (I'm sorry): some guys have a lot of difficulties dealing with their own desires and sexuality, and because of this obvious lack of self assurance, keep questioning guys who are self assured. They constantly feel that their sexuality is being challenged, as male, by that of guys who do not share their preferences. Yet, I've made the remark somewhere else and I'll make it again: NO ONE is saying here, that bottoms are fags, or any such absurd and disgusting thing! no one, to my knowledge is questioning the manhood of these guys! It's the opposite that keeps occuring over and over, and all of that because of a lack of assurance. They are the ones to raise questions by their own lack of assurance! They percieve the very simple affirmation (assertion? statement?) of our sexuality as a challenge to theirs!
Moreover, there is an image of transsexual women that is carried quite often by some around here which is a pure fantasy. Yet it is often presented and defended, out of the very desire of some guys, as the reality! It's not always fair for the girls, in my opinion, and there's nothing wrong with setting the record straight, at least once in a while! Of course, yes, some girls, even many, also like to top. Fine! But t-girls are not futanaris! It sometimes seems to some as if they were those Japanese huge dick-girls who want to fuck anything that moves! That's ridiculous!
One more thing that I have to get off my chest here. There's a perspective defended by some guys which is shitty, in my humble opinion, and is defended often by bottoms who have such self assurance problems. They insist that if guys like girls who have a penis, they are has "gay" as they, themselves, are. You know, I wouldn't mind the least bit being called gay because I also love girls with the little extra. I find that these tags ridiculous and in fact, worthless. But what I do find much more offensive in this perspective, is the fact that it's partly negating the fact that these transsexuals are women! And that, to me, is shoking! It implicitely makes of transsexual women men in drags, which infuriates me, personally. I suppose I very much have my macho, hetero point of view, here, but Christ! how can anyone confuse these girls for guys because they have a wiener? To me, all you have to do is look at them!
(Sorry for the english: when I get pumped up, I think it's getting even worst... )

[tsadriana]

:mad:Some are top ,some are bottoms,some are versatiles ...Im bottom and i have nothing agaisnt on guys who loves it up their arses...If it wasnt a tgirl ,it was for sure a woman with strapon ..."Its a sayng :Today with strapon,tomorow with the real thing ":mad:Enjoy guys and take it deep like real bitchies :mad:(joke)

[danthepoetman]

:mad:Some are top ,some are bottoms,some are versatiles ...Im bottom and i have nothing agaisnt on guys who loves it up their arses...If it wasnt a tgirl ,it was for sure a woman with strapon ..."Its a sayng :Today with strapon,tomorow with the real thing ":mad:Enjoy guys and take it deep like real bitchies :mad:(joke)
With me, I'm sure even the idea would seem ridiculous to you, lovely Adriana.
But then again, I would love to challenge you to a kissing and carressing contest, just to see whom of us would end up on top, and whom would end up on the bottom in the end... ;)

[tsadriana]

With me, I'm sure even the idea would seem ridiculous to you, lovely Adriana.
But then again, I would love to challenge you to a kissing and carressing contest, just to see whom of us would end up on top, and whom would end up on the bottom in the end... ;)
That would be interesteng..:mad:

[Dino Velvet]

I'm more of a butt pirate than a fan of getting my booty stolen. Any ladies wanna walk the plank?

[tsadriana]

I'm more of a butt pirate than a fan of getting my booty stolen. Any ladies wanna walk the plank?
:saladBack to my old salad :mad:

[Dino Velvet]

:saladBack to my old salad :mad:

Why not go to the other side of the table for some meat?

[tsadriana]

Why not go to the other side of the table for some meat?
Meat ,oh meat:mad:my meat:mad:

[Dino Velvet]

Meat ,oh meat:mad:my meat:mad:

I know you're a honey bunny 150% bottom for sure.

[tsadriana]

I know you're a honey bunny 150% bottom for sure.
I smell coco chanel...you?:mad:

[Dino Velvet]

I smell coco chanel...you?:mad:

Think I caught a wiff of it off your funhole. I'll add a squirt of something else in there.

[tsadriana]

Think I caught a wiff of it off your funhole. I'll add a squirt of something else in there.
sounds good:mad:

[robertlouis]

I agree, of course, Prospero. Of course we should all accept differences and respect everyone's choices. And Robert Louis, you are obviously right: being in the opposite position, we would see things differently. Then again, you have to admit something here, which is a constant (I'm sorry): some guys have a lot of difficulties dealing with their own desires and sexuality, and because of this obvious lack of self assurance, keep questioning guys who are self assured. They constantly feel that their sexuality is being challenged, as male, by that of guys who do not share their preferences. Yet, I've made the remark somewhere else and I'll make it again: NO ONE is saying here, that bottoms are fags, or any such absurd and disgusting thing! no one, to my knowledge is questioning the manhood of these guys! It's the opposite that keeps occuring over and over, and all of that because of a lack of assurance. They are the ones to raise questions by their own lack of assurance! They percieve the very simple affirmation (assertion? statement?) of our sexuality as a challenge to theirs!
Moreover, there is an image of transsexual women that is carried quite often by some around here which is a pure fantasy. Yet it is often presented and defended, out of the very desire of some guys, as the reality! It's not always fair for the girls, in my opinion, and there's nothing wrong with setting the record straight, at least once in a while! Of course, yes, some girls, even many, also like to top. Fine! But t-girls are not futanaris! It sometimes seems to some as if they were those Japanese huge dick-girls who want to fuck anything that moves! That's ridiculous!
One more thing that I have to get off my chest here. There's a perspective defended by some guys which is shitty, in my humble opinion, and is defended often by bottoms who have such self assurance problems. They insist that if guys like girls who have a penis, they are has "gay" as they, themselves, are. You know, I wouldn't mind the least bit being called gay because I also love girls with the little extra. I find that these tags ridiculous and in fact, worthless. But what I do find much more offensive in this perspective, is the fact that it's partly negating the fact that these transsexuals are women! And that, to me, is shoking! It implicitely makes of transsexual women men in drags, which infuriates me, personally. I suppose I very much have my macho, hetero point of view, here, but Christ! how can anyone confuse these girls for guys because they have a wiener? To me, all you have to do is look at them!
(Sorry for the english: when I get pumped up, I think it's getting even worst... )

:iagree::iagree::iagree: Terrific post Dan. And yes, it's all too typical of the insecure guys to express their intolerance in such a self-centred way that they go as far as to deny transsexual girls their womanhood. Tossers, and somewhat insensitive ones at that.

[Prospero]

A very good post Dan.

[danthepoetman]

Thanks, guys. I guess I needed to cough it up a little... :)

[MacShreach]

I agree, of course, Prospero. Of course we should all accept differences and respect everyone's choices. And Robert Louis, you are obviously right: being in the opposite position, we would see things differently. Then again, you have to admit something here, which is a constant (I'm sorry): some guys have a lot of difficulties dealing with their own desires and sexuality, and because of this obvious lack of self assurance, keep questioning guys who are self assured. They constantly feel that their sexuality is being challenged, as male, by that of guys who do not share their preferences. Yet, I've made the remark somewhere else and I'll make it again: NO ONE is saying here, that bottoms are fags, or any such absurd and disgusting thing! no one, to my knowledge is questioning the manhood of these guys! It's the opposite that keeps occuring over and over, and all of that because of a lack of assurance. They are the ones to raise questions by their own lack of assurance! They percieve the very simple affirmation (assertion? statement?) of our sexuality as a challenge to theirs!
Moreover, there is an image of transsexual women that is carried quite often by some around here which is a pure fantasy. Yet it is often presented and defended, out of the very desire of some guys, as the reality! It's not always fair for the girls, in my opinion, and there's nothing wrong with setting the record straight, at least once in a while! Of course, yes, some girls, even many, also like to top. Fine! But t-girls are not futanaris! It sometimes seems to some as if they were those Japanese huge dick-girls who want to fuck anything that moves! That's ridiculous!
One more thing that I have to get off my chest here. There's a perspective defended by some guys which is shitty, in my humble opinion, and is defended often by bottoms who have such self assurance problems. They insist that if guys like girls who have a penis, they are has "gay" as they, themselves, are. You know, I wouldn't mind the least bit being called gay because I also love girls with the little extra. I find that these tags ridiculous and in fact, worthless. But what I do find much more offensive in this perspective, is the fact that it's partly negating the fact that these transsexuals are women! And that, to me, is shoking! It implicitely makes of transsexual women men in drags, which infuriates me, personally. I suppose I very much have my macho, hetero point of view, here, but Christ! how can anyone confuse these girls for guys because they have a wiener? To me, all you have to do is look at them!
(Sorry for the english: when I get pumped up, I think it's getting even worst... )
I agree with all of that, except for the bit about the English--it was fine

[MacShreach]

Kinda understandable why the girls feel a certain way if you really think about it
This :iagree:

[Ms.Stepford]

And, as for how these threads always go:

Guys who only want to top, in general, are better lovers and treat me better as a person.

Seven in the morning drunk bitch truth.

[danthepoetman]

And, as for how these threads always go:
Guys who only want to top, in general, are better lovers and treat me better as a person.
Seven in the morning drunk bitch truth.

I love drunken girls! They're fun and tender!
By the way, I think it's necessary to get drunk with a girl at least once to decide if you'll have or not a relationship with her, if you invest all of your heart or not. I don't believe the latin adage, "In vino veritas"; you don't necessarily have the truth from drunkenness, but the inhibitions lifting, you get much more expression of oneself!

[robertlouis]

And, as for how these threads always go:

Guys who only want to top, in general, are better lovers and treat me better as a person.

Seven in the morning drunk bitch truth.


Well now, isn't THAT good news for some of us! :dancing: