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Willie Escalade
05-22-2013, 03:24 PM
Saw this on Facebook...
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Ten Things Not to Say to a Trans Person

Many trans people (including myself) speak and train in a variety of venues, and we do so because it is important to us to educate non-trans people about who we are. We get a lot of comments and a lot of questions in those settings, and unless we have specified that a particular topic is off-limits (I never do), we expect and are happy to answer any and all questions that come our way. In that situation, as the old cliché goes, there are no stupid questions.

But there is a big difference between a training or educational setting and a social or workplace environment. When we speak or train, we make the choice to answer questions, respond to comments, and so on. When we’re eating fast food, shopping at the mall, or just meeting someone for the first time in a social setting, we’re sometimes caught off guard.

So I present “Ten Things Not to Say to a Trans Person” (all of which have been said to me at one time or another) as a cautionary reminder to those non-trans folks outside of a formal educational or training setting.

1. “Have you had ‘the operation’”? (Equally offensive: “Have you had ‘the surgery?’” or “Are you pre-op or post-op?” or “Are you done?”)

There is no one “operation.” Trans people have many surgeries or no surgeries. We know what you’re talking about, but we like to pretend that we don’t just to annoy you. Like you, we consider our private parts private. You show me yours, and I’ll show you mine.

But transition is not all about genitalia – in fact, the social aspects of transition can be far more complicated, complex, and compelling. To ask about surgery is to disregard every other aspect of a person as a human being – not to mention the fact that you would not likely ask anyone else you know about his or her genitalia.

Unless you’re asking me to sleep with you, what’s underneath my clothes should not be of concern. And if you are asking me to sleep with you, then I’d like to see what’s underneath your clothes before I make my final decision.

2. “Which bathroom do you use?”

We use the bathroom that matches the gender that we are presenting (if the law allows). We use the bathroom that is right for us (if we can), just like you use the bathroom that is right for you. And we use the bathroom for the same reason that you do. We have no interest in seeing or hearing anything that you are doing in there, and we would prefer that you not take an undue interest in us. We just want to get in, take care of business, and get out. If you have seen most public restrooms, you will understand why.

3. “If you combed your hair a certain way, walked a certain way, did ______ (fill in the blank) a certain way, you would be more masculine/feminine.”

Thanks for the tip. Now, as for what’s wrong with you …

4. “When did you decide to become transgender/transsexual?”

We didn’t “decide” to “become” this way. We were born this way. When did you “decide” what gender you were – or did you just know? We may have made a “decision” to transition, but most trans people will tell you that transition is not a choice – it is a medical necessity, and any “decision” that was made was simply the decision to continue to live, which necessitated transition.

5. “You pass really well.”

While some trans people may take this as a compliment, especially in the early stages of transition, “passing” implies that a person is not what he or she seems to be – that the person is “passing” for something else. Unless you’re a driving instructor, if you want to give a compliment, just say, “You look nice today” or “That color looks good on you” or whatever you would say to anyone else.

6. “I thought you’d be a monster – but you’re just a normal person!”

Catch me during the next full moon.

7. “How do you have sex?”

Buy me dinner and I’ll show you. JK!!

Seriously, there are many ways to have sex, and trans people have sex just like everyone else. Sex is not just the missionary position, although trans people have sex this way as well. But if you’re strictly the “tab A into slot B” type of person, you might be missing out on some things yourself.

(Equally offensive: “How do you go to the bathroom?” Umm, there’s this thing called the urinary tract …)

8. “I can still see the woman (or the man) in you.”

Darn, did I forget to zip up my pants again?

But seriously, most trans people would prefer not to be reminded of their previous incarnation, if you will. While those who say this generally mean no harm and are just being sentimental about a “person” they miss from their past, those who have transitioned usually don’t share the same sentimentality about their pre-transition self, so no matter what you see, it’s best to keep it to yourself.

9. “Are you afraid that people will hate you or want to hurt you?”

Yes. But I try not to think about it unless someone brings it up.

10. “What does being a man (or a woman) mean to you?”

It means not being asked that kind of question, because you would never ask a non-trans man (or a non-trans woman) the same question.
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Rabbiteyes
05-22-2013, 04:05 PM
What's worse....is trans people start to get used to this type of intrusive behaviour. Unless you want to snap at 99.99 percent of people you meet who feel like they can ask you all sorts of probing questions...you kind of just have to accept it ~_~

danthepoetman
05-22-2013, 04:06 PM
Nice, Willie, very nice. And even for someone who would know better, it's written well enough to make you think, to give you a broader perspective.

youngblood61
05-22-2013, 05:30 PM
Nice post Escalade!:)

Stavros
05-22-2013, 06:35 PM
4. “When did you decide to become transgender/transsexual?”

We didn’t “decide” to “become” this way. We were born this way. When did you “decide” what gender you were – or did you just know? We may have made a “decision” to transition, but most trans people will tell you that transition is not a choice – it is a medical necessity, and any “decision” that was made was simply the decision to continue to live, which necessitated transition.


This is the most contentious of the things not to say, as it represents one point for view for all transgendered people as if it were universal. There are transgendered people -I don't know how many- who do indeed decide to change their gender identity, sometimes in their 30s or 40s or later. These are men who have apparently lived a 'normal' life, have married and fathered children, but experience a crisis at a later point in their lives which they attribute to a blockage which has prevented them from seeing themselves 'as they truly are', which is as a woman. I am not in a position to judge them, but I did meet one person (admittedly not married with children) whose determination to become a woman in my view, and on his explanation, was a psychological distortion which presented this person with gender re-assignment as a solution to problems whose origin probably did not lie in gender or sexuality at all, and I suspect that some of the men who have been through SRS and regretted it have only after 'the operation' realised that gender was not at the root of their unhappiness. And, as other posters in other threads have pointed out, some Thai ladyboys make this an economic choice for say, ten years, to make some money, before reverting to their status as a man.

giovanni_hotel
05-22-2013, 07:07 PM
Rule of thumb...talk to any TS the way you'd talk to ANY WOMAN. Period.
If a tgirl doesn't volunteer certain personal topics of convo, an admirer shouldn't bring them up in person.

Prospero
05-22-2013, 07:10 PM
willie and Giovanni... both excellent posts.

christianxxx
05-22-2013, 07:14 PM
I ask 1, 4, and 5 at times....#yikes

Prospero
05-22-2013, 07:21 PM
Yeah - but you are in a special situation with the girls Christian.

Dino Velvet
05-22-2013, 07:25 PM
Have to admit the first time I took a T-Girl out for a meal I giraffe'd my neck around to see which toilet she visited.

Tom Jones - She's a Lady - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvmyTZEqlo8)

nysprod
05-22-2013, 07:36 PM
I'd be curious to see what the more knowledgeable people have to say about ladyboys who go Trans strictly as a business.

giovanni_hotel
05-22-2013, 07:43 PM
I'd be curious to see what the more knowledgeable people have to say about ladyboys who go Trans strictly as a business.

Except there's really no way to know that unless she tells you, or you see her after she de-transitions.

amberskyi
05-22-2013, 08:09 PM
This is the most contentious of the things not to say, as it represents one point for view for all transgendered people as if it were universal. There are transgendered people -I don't know how many- who do indeed decide to change their gender identity, sometimes in their 30s or 40s or later. These are men who have apparently lived a 'normal' life, have married and fathered children, but experience a crisis at a later point in their lives which they attribute to a blockage which has prevented them from seeing themselves 'as they truly are', which is as a woman. I am not in a position to judge them, but I did meet one person (admittedly not married with children) whose determination to become a woman in my view, and on his explanation, was a psychological distortion which presented this person with gender re-assignment as a solution to problems whose origin probably did not lie in gender or sexuality at all, and I suspect that some of the men who have been through SRS and regretted it have only after 'the operation' realised that gender was not at the root of their unhappiness. And, as other posters in other threads have pointed out, some Thai ladyboys make this an economic choice for say, ten years, to make some money, before reverting to their status as a man.

Just because one waits to transition later in their life doesn't mean they didn't struggle with these feelings their whole life.
I have a close friend who didn't start seriously pursuing their transition until late 20s and lived like a hereto man until than.however as a child she expressed her transgendered feelings and was sent to a therapist.believing that she said something wrong she shut down and tried to repress those feelings.
the point was being made for people who are truly transgendered.yes the act to transition may be a choice but having these feelings isnt.i do have to agree that its rather odd for someone to one day wake up and suddenly have feelings of being the wrong gender when most of their life they identified comfortably as their birth gender.i would be suspicious if those individuals really were trans as most girls i know struggled with gender identity from a very young age but im not a mental health professional so who knows **shrugs**
In the case of people who transition for perceived economical benefits are really transsexuals and obviously don't apply.

VictoriaVeil
05-22-2013, 08:31 PM
worth revisiting for perspective....for you number 4's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJtjqLUHYoY

runround04
05-23-2013, 06:36 AM
Anyone that would ask those questions is just socially retarded to start with, the Trans framework just shows it better. I bet the ask black people if they all know each other too. This world is getting stupider by the day.

TatianaSummer
05-23-2013, 11:27 AM
You forgot "How Much do you charge?"
LOL
Also it depends who is asking you this, on the way you take it.
In My case I don't mind getting asked any of the 10, I am completely confident in myself, how I look, if I pass or not, etc etc. My believe is that if your self esteem is on the floor then some of these questions might trigger a negative reaction.
I sometimes ask some of these questions to some of my ts friends and they don't seem to get bother but then again is not the same from one person to another.

BTW nice thread!

Willie Escalade
05-23-2013, 12:54 PM
Thank you. I try to be civilized once in awhile lol...

nysprod
05-23-2013, 02:19 PM
There's a book on this, apparently.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/579107_427804790636392_1115450399_n.jpg

Corran
05-23-2013, 02:37 PM
Howzabout...."Can I touch it?"

dderek123
05-24-2013, 08:27 PM
#11

"Am I gay for being attracted to you?"

Stavros
05-24-2013, 10:06 PM
There's a book on this, apparently.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/579107_427804790636392_1115450399_n.jpg

Is this for real???

TatianaSummer
05-24-2013, 11:49 PM
yeah looks like Amazon has it! I should Add it to my wishlist. LOL

SXFX
05-25-2013, 04:19 AM
11. So those girls there hate you because you are talking to me