If i suck a man cock im gay if a sock a transexual cock im straight.im confused.

[tsadriana]

What the fucking that means?Anyway where we go with this shit stuppid labels?my opinion no where.:pissed:

[nightshift]

Yes you are gay if you suck a mans cock. Just my 2cents.

[bluesoul]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6lu3k2VLc1qb36wno1_250.gif

[Prospero]

Labels are pointless. Just be happy.

[robertlouis]

Labels are pointless. Just be happy.

Yes. Trying to confine the huge variation in human sexual preference within a few tired categories is crazy. But it won't stop the agonised weekly debates on HA.

Pansexual is probably about as close as it gets. Although I've never been attracted to Le Creuset cookware myself.....

Suck what you like, Adriana, as long as you enjoy it. Ice cream is nice. :dancing:

[bxtoni]

Tell the guys at work that you sucked a fat cock last night but it's okay because it was a transsexual... I'll wait... btw I love sucking cock, don't tell my girlfriend :-D Reality is not labels, labels approximate reality.

[robertlouis]

Tell the guys at work that you sucked a fat cock last night but it's okay because it was a transsexual... I'll wait... btw I love sucking cock, don't tell my girlfriend :-D Reality is not labels, labels approximate reality.

Labels narrow definitions unnecessarily and are often used to threaten and oppress - and I'm not just talking about tg sex.

[jamiethewild]

IMO

Many men start off with TS and sucking their cock than they evolve to not caring where the cock comes from as long as its cock... They end up fucking with other dudes in the DL and putting this straight image with us....

Labels are good so people can identify themselves more quickly.....

I had a ts friend and she had a boyfriend who escort as a CD... but was a boy during the day.... I felt bad her..... he was a confuse tri-sexual dude... what a shame.

[yodajazz]

Labels are just a way to simplify the infinite variety of life. For transsexuals, the label are often inadequate or misleading. Imagine trying to put all the variations of sex, into three categories; straight gay or bi. I happen to believe that trans people are expanding the total awareness of human sexuality. Some don't understand, but more and more are. Even with labels, however, sexual attraction is about more than one act. And also its about the total person, not just one part of that person, for the vast majority of all people.

[jamiethewild]

if we are labeled as TS than all you guys in this forum should be label under gay,bi, bi-curious, confuse, cd's, or tri/pan-sexual..... NOT straight....

[littletwink]

he was a confused tri-sexual dude... what a shame.
What an abomination, you mean!

[jamiethewild]

What an abomination, you mean!

and anathema by most of us. lol

[Bribi]

I don't care "gay" or "straight"
Do what you want to do

[TSBootyLondon]

Bribi I was just about to write exactly that!

Be who you want to be! Do what you want to do and above all else be happy xx

[Molly D'Vyne]

I've always liked to think of myself as somewhat try-sexual.

I'll try anything at least once... (and a lot more if I like it)

[Prospero]

Good remark Molly

[ZELLGADISS]

In my opinion is not same a man that a ts....

[Prospero]

I dont understand why so many people on here find they have such a need to label people. I said earlier forget labels and enjoy and like Molly I'll try anything once - and more than once - if I like and enjoy it and it does not injure others.
So I have tried the following - sex with GG (like) sex with transsexuals(like) anal sex active and passive with TS and with GG (like) oral sex with GGs and TS (like), sex with men (didn't like), domination by GG (an occasional thing - mixed feelings) domination by a guy (didn't like) domination by TS (mixed feelings - but have repeated. In the right hands its great fun. But too many amateurs around and would not risk it with them), threesome with GG (like) threesomes with TS (liked very much), moresome with TS (like but three is company and mores a crowd). Sex with TS while high (!), sex in the open air (like) sex in a cathedral (once - and it was, erm, naughty) etc etc.......

[nysprod]

IMO

Many men start off with TS and sucking their cock than they evolve to not caring where the cock comes from as long as its cock... They end up fucking with other dudes in the DL and putting this straight image with us...

Where do you come up with these statistics...sounds like another of your base rate fallacies...


Labels are good so people can identify themselves more quickly....

People put labels on other people in order to identify themselves, i.e. he sucks cock, he's gay, I don't, so I'm not.


I had a ts friend and she had a boyfriend who escort as a CD... but was a boy during the day.... I felt bad her..... he was a confuse tri-sexual dude... what a shame.

Key word "had."

[irvin66]

Yep you're a fagot!:geek:

[jamiethewild]

do what ever you want to do "guys", choose any and be any label that best suits you from the ones i have mention EXPECT straight you guys are anything but straight.. ..
and quit the bullshit with "am straight" that's what pisses the not delusional girls off ....



Key word "had."

okay doctor:p

[Prospero]

Jamie...why so much aggression from you on this issue? It's puzzling.

[Jayjj222]

Need to try both today and figure it out!

[RallyCola]

"Baby Got Dick"

[Intro]
Oh, my, god. Becky, look at her cock.
It is so big. [scoff] She looks like,
one of those rap guys' girlfriends.
But, you know, who understands those rap guys? *scoff*
They only talk to her, because,
she looks like a total prostitute, 'kay?
I mean, her cock, is just so big.
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like,
out there, I mean - gross. Look!
She's just so ... Tranny!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like big cocks and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a stiff thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that cock was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that cock you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupie
I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's sweat, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' no cocks are the thing
Take the average transfan and ask him that
She gotta pack much dick
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the cock? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy cock!
Baby got dick!

(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got dick!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em firm and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for boobs
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knock-kneeded bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sisters, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Till the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna roll in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got dick!

Baby got dick!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a penis in the front of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got dick, hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that cock
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the cock ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waist is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the cock is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got dick!

(Little in the middle but she got much dick) [4x]

[Prospero]

Transphobic Techno (Bitch Got a Penis) - (Your Favorite Martian music video) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6vDxvOXhQ)

[jamiethewild]

Jamie...why so much aggression from you on this issue? It's puzzling.

its the hypocrisy that many men are in denial that they aren't straight yet they insist on telling girls they are ... they don't have the balls to admit it ..... fucking liars
yet we are labeled by them by un-appropiate derogatory terms.

[Jayjj222]

That was fuckin awesome!!!

[jamiethewild]

Where do you come up with these statistics...sounds like another of your base rate fallacies... ."

Okay .... whatever you say ...

This fact has actually has been said by a few girls in here and its true because we have seen it... its okay to be different don't be ashamed.:grin:
Why even quote it if it didn't even pertain to you, just makes you more obvious...
the community is very welcoming and society is getting better :wink: lmao

[tsmounting]

its the hypocrisy that many men are in denial that they aren't straight yet they insist on telling girls they are ... they don't have the balls to admit it ..... fucking liars
yet we are labeled by them by un-appropiate derogatory terms.

Jamie sometimes the cock is just an extension of the ego. I have a very big ego but I am also very humble. Sometimes is boys and sometimes is girls and sometimes is 'ts' but they can all suck very well in different ways. I have often sucked different cocks and wondered what it all means, but all I can say is that when I try to attach much meaning to these things I end up value judging these things which is not healthy. I am what I am. Who are you to tell me what I am because I might like some cock in my mouth on occasion? You must let go of the anger and frustration otherwise it's going to eat you up with no way back. Be happy and just let it go, it's not your problem to worry about other peoples lives. The irony is that you have become the embodiment of the very bigotry that you despise. #Sadface

[jamiethewild]

Jamie sometimes the cock is just an extension of the ego. I have a very big ego but I am also very humble. Sometimes is boys and sometimes is girls and sometimes is 'ts' but they can all suck very well in different ways. I have often sucked different cocks and wondered what it all means, but all I can say is that when I try to attach much meaning to these things I end up value judging these things which is not healthy. I am what I am. Who are you to tell me what I am because I might like some cock in my mouth on occasion? You must let go of the anger and frustration otherwise it's going to eat you up with no way back. Be happy and just let it go, it's not your problem to worry about other peoples lives. The irony is that you have become the embodiment of the very bigotry that you despise. #Sadface

DENIAL

and no anger here honey, trust ....:wink:

[tsmounting]

DENIAL

and no anger here honey, trust ....:wink:

JUDGEMENT

You can't help yourself.

May god have mercy on your soul for you know not what you do is wrong.

#FORGIVENESS

[jamiethewild]

JUDGEMENT

You can't help yourself.

May god have mercy on your soul for you know not what you do is wrong.

#FORGIVENESS

lmao, oh god please..have mercy ..lololol

Go get your hormones checked maybe you have too much estrogen running in your veins you sound soo emotional hahaha (might be the food you eat)

[tsmounting]

lmao, oh god please..have mercy ..lololol

Go get your hormones checked maybe you have too much estrogen running in your veins you sound soo emotional hahaha (might be the food you eat)

Very aggressive Jamie. Perhaps you might want to look at your hormone balance, seriously.

It's not your fault.

[jamiethewild]

Very aggressive Jamie. Perhaps you might want to look at your hormone balance, seriously.

It's not your fault.

My hormones are fine ... Probably why am very fierce lol

Very Aggressive ?
Don't be such a diva..Life made me agressive and strong....no time for emotional break- downs...
bitch. Lol

[nysprod]

Okay .... whatever you say ...

This fact has actually has been said by a few girls...

Key word "girls"...if you're into "girls" you're not gay or bi, whether the girl has a dick or not.

[trish]

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."__William Shakespeare

"A rose is a rose is a rose."___Gertrude Stein

"Be vat you ist, not vat you ist not. Volks who do zis ist ze happiest lot."__Mr. Wizard

[Bigshot88]

I am thoroughly convinced that 99 percent of men are on some level interested in pleasuring dicks. For some of us, we like dicks but are completely turned off by the aesthetics of typical straight men and love the aesthetics of women. Therefore, the transsexual aesthetic fits our wants. Because we may sometimes act on it, does that really change our basic orientation? Another reason why labels are useless. Are all men gay because they have a "gray area" where dicks are desirable simply because we can relate to the pleasure of having one? No point in torturing yourself over useless labels. Pussy is great, but so is dick.

[timid1]

I don't care "gay" or "straight"
Do what you want to do

Agree Bribi. Who cares? Call/label me whatever. I love sucking a beautiful ts, and vice versa. If two ( or more!) humans are engaging in an enjoyable sexual act who cares what the "label" is? Enjoy , and be happy :)

[Amber Littlefeather]

Hey hun..I back the others and don't put much into labels do what feels right for you!..but in if you need a label use try (I will "try "anything sexual)..xo Amber L.:D

[bat1]

I love it all who cares..I grew up in LA ;)

[giovanni_hotel]

I don't know why some of you guys are putting so much weight in the opinion of some TS who've stated they DON'T LIKE guys who like TS.

That's really all you need to know.

If a TS only finds men desirable who consider the idea of TS women repulsive and disgusting, what does she have to offer to a trans-attracted man, except loathing and a overbearing judgmental attitude???

[KnHd]

It's all good, it should not matter what other people think anyway.

[PatrickLA]

It's pretty simple dude. GAY is a LIFESTYLE of which sex is a big part. A Hetero-Male who likes TSTVCD, basically loves cock and loves the FEMALE look. I know I am not attracted to MEN when they look like men! I don;t care for hairy women, do you? I enjoy COCK and playing with them. Am I gay? No, I like COCK, not MEN!

I also know that most of us have to hide this fetish(and that is ALL this is) from our Straight Guy friends(allegedly straight!), because anything involving cock and our desire for it will be labeled GAY! I know these things because all I do is check my feelings when I see certain images. I even like watching ugly crossdressers stroke there cocks as long as I don't see their faces! I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body! Instant turn off! How many of us stick around after sex with a TV or CD? None of us. How many of us want to see a TV or CD as man and then as a female. I don't.

So really it is about COCK and if it is on a FEMALE looking body and pretty too, all the better!

Even TS will call us Tranny-chasers, and sissies and fags because we like shemales and cock. They forget that they are really males too inside and NOTHING they do will change that. They can't have babies, eh?

Don't beat yourself up over this. Just keep it quiet. Heh, I got found out a few years ago by a male acquaintance I knew from a club I was a DJ at! He(she) replied to an ad I had in BackPage and I went over, and she recognized me. Did they care or freak out? Did it bother me I knew what HE looked like without the female look? Yes. I politely declined to have sex with him.

We ain't gay. We just like cock. Would you have anal sex with a woman? yes. A Shemale? Yes. Are you gay? It all is about the cock.

Better now?

[PatrickLA]

A TS who doesn't like guys who like TS is so full of beans it's hilarious! Tell me then, Who the Hell are you going for? Hetero-guys? Really? You think if they discover you have a cock, they wont freak out? You know how many murders have been committed on Trannies who came onto a man who wasn't into shemales? Google it. It's a lot.

And FYI, Shemales are a fukked bunch because they can NEVER have what they want the most and that is a relationship with a straight Male. If he likes shemales, he likes you for one reason, SEX. Add in the fact that most of society doesn't accept this as normal, and your doomed to a life of lies guys will tell you just to get into your panties!

Most likely, you will either go back to being a gay male(which most of you started out as)
or live with a gay man but a normal relationship built on LOVE probably won't happen.

We are a narcissistic bunch, ain't we?!

[brickcitybrother]

to the question posed by the OP - who said you're straight? lol

[PatrickLA]

I am thoroughly convinced that 99 percent of men are on some level interested in pleasuring dicks. For some of us, we like dicks but are completely turned off by the aesthetics of typical straight men and love the aesthetics of women. Therefore, the transsexual aesthetic fits our wants. Because we may sometimes act on it, does that really change our basic orientation? Another reason why labels are useless. Are all men gay because they have a "gray area" where dicks are desirable simply because we can relate to the pleasure of having one? No point in torturing yourself over useless labels. Pussy is great, but so is dick.
You it the nail on the head there Bigshot! But try telling that to a Shemale who wants a real relationship! They don't understand we Hetero-men see it purely from a sexual view. They are like a diabetic in a candy store. They want it, but they can't have it because it just wont mix with their situation in life and could be harmful. Same thing, if I start dating a Shemale(and I have secretly several times here in LA), and made it public, my guy friends would be shocked and call me gay and my family probably wouldn't like it either.

[PatrickLA]

Know this. MOST Shemales are messed up in the head and it gets worse as they age. You can go on Youtube and watch the ramblings of several once young High-Profile TS's like Vicki Richter(who FYI started this very Hung Angels Forum) and Sable and many others and they are screwed up. They ramble on and go from one extreme to another! Some even committed suicide(Jezebel).

So, don;t knock yourselves out trying to figure this out or get insulted by a shemale who get's angry because really, they are just screwed up little boys who found thier mommies make-up.

Some Shemales do have normal relationships but you can bet it is with shemales who look passable and not like drag queens! Gia Darling is one. But the guy, I am betting, doesn't have many straight guy friends and he doesn't bring her home to the family for Thanksgiving! :dancing:

[GroobySteven]

like Vicki Richter(who FYI started this very Hung Angels Forum)

No she didn't



So, don;t knock yourselves out trying to figure this out or get insulted by a shemale who get's angry because really, they are just screwed up little boys who found thier mommies make-up.

You're on thin ice - read the rules.


Gia Darling is one. But the guy, I am betting, doesn't have many straight guy friends and he doesn't bring her home to the family for Thanksgiving! :dancing:

Apparently, his family has no problem and he's got a lot of straight friends (if rugby players and military are mainly made up of "straight" men.

[giovanni_hotel]

Guys that into cock shouldn't presume to speak for everyone's tastes. Maybe for you, but I don't see it as all about dick.

If you're into TS because you have a cock obsession but prefer that it be dressed up in smooth skin, boobs and makeup, that's just different than how I see it. But whatever works.

In a weird way you're confirming what Jamie was bitching about in the first place!!lol

[Chaos]

Truthfully,this is stupid shit....

The ONLY person that knows you well enough to label you.....is you.

Calling a guy a fag or a homo because he likes the girls here is just as bad as the guy that comes here and calls you men.

I also find it disturbing that anyone here could call themselves a woman but say any man that even KIND OF likes them is a fag...I mean,I'm crazy....but I wouldn't call anyone that finds me attractive a psycho...

[bluesoul]

It's pretty simple dude. GAY is a LIFESTYLE of which sex is a big part. A Hetero-Male who likes TSTVCD, basically loves cock and loves the FEMALE look. I know I am not attracted to MEN when they look like men! I don;t care for hairy women, do you? I enjoy COCK and playing with them. Am I gay? No, I like COCK, not MEN!

I also know that most of us have to hide this fetish(and that is ALL this is) from our Straight Guy friends(allegedly straight!), because anything involving cock and our desire for it will be labeled GAY! I know these things because all I do is check my feelings when I see certain images. I even like watching ugly crossdressers stroke there cocks as long as I don't see their faces! I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body! Instant turn off! How many of us stick around after sex with a TV or CD? None of us. How many of us want to see a TV or CD as man and then as a female. I don't.

So really it is about COCK and if it is on a FEMALE looking body and pretty too, all the better!

Even TS will call us Tranny-chasers, and sissies and fags because we like shemales and cock. They forget that they are really males too inside and NOTHING they do will change that. They can't have babies, eh?

Don't beat yourself up over this. Just keep it quiet. Heh, I got found out a few years ago by a male acquaintance I knew from a club I was a DJ at! He(she) replied to an ad I had in BackPage and I went over, and she recognized me. Did they care or freak out? Did it bother me I knew what HE looked like without the female look? Yes. I politely declined to have sex with him.

We ain't gay. We just like cock. Would you have anal sex with a woman? yes. A Shemale? Yes. Are you gay? It all is about the cock.

Better now?

holy shit. this is... like... the best thing i've read here. seriously! wow. epic truth

http://i.imgur.com/sXfgn.gif

[bluesoul]

The ONLY person that knows you well enough to label you.....is you.

i do not agree with this. you know why? i could call myself superman or label myself the greatest lover in the universe. does that make it true?

do you know how many people claim they're innocent when they're actually guilty?

[giovanni_hotel]

holy shit. this is... like... the best thing i've read here. seriously! wow. epic truth

http://i.imgur.com/sXfgn.gif

I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body!

If you like dick THAT much, um....! Sounds a little thirsty to me.

I have to see the tgirl, and I have to be attracted to her even if she didn't have a dick.

[bluesoul]

I know I would suck a cock through a glory-hole if I don't see a mans body!

If you like dick THAT much, um....! Sounds a little thirsty to me.

I have to see the tgirl, and I have to be attracted to her even if she didn't have a dick.


real talk. although, when you quoted me, you made it seem like it was me who said that. and i'm not gay :hide-1:

[Devilboy]

Obviously there are many body parts that people have fetishized...boobs, ass, legs, lips, feet, cocks, etc. People like what they like. I have my own cock so I really don't need another, but if a super hot girl has one hanging off her it's not a deal breaker.

What I would or wouldn't do with a cock would depend on who it was attached to, not just that it's there.

I also wonder why some TG women insist that the guys that find them attractive are gay. If you are a woman trapped in a man's body, and I find you attractive, aren't I still attracted to a woman?

Anyway you slice it, people just like what they like.

[Jdeere562]

I guess we all vary, to a certain degree as to what and what not we like. No rights or wrongs, just our preferences.

Personally, I would NEVER suck a cock, period! I do like to look at tranny's though. A handjob is the most I could muster up to, in real life.

Just do whatever trips your trigger. Have fun. I won't do anal either. Should you choose to, go for it and have fun!

[bluesoul]

I also wonder why some TG women insist that the guys that find them attractive are gay. If you are a woman trapped in a man's body, and I find you attractive, aren't I still attracted to a woman?

what if they are lying? some trannies have been accused of actually being homosexual men in disguise. an example would be jamie markham (http://jamiemarkham.net/) what happens then?

[jamiethewild]

Now there's girls in the TS community that become TS's for money and other reasons and don't see themselves as woman those give a BAD reputation for the ones that truly feel like woman.

And for the guys that feel and generalize we all are guys deep down than you should be label as a closet queen cocksucker son of a bitch...

"PatrickLA" TS don't forget were guys ... we knew we were woman since we were born so to me your logic sounds very PORN logic, very moronic, naive and a fetishized believer by what you're saying. How the fuck whoreson chutney ferret are you straight, yet you see us a boys and guys??? Delusional ... education is a must.. you sound like a sad case peter puffer . Btw, most gays think like that....

And for the guys that are saying "am not gay" you probably guys are .... no body is saying you're gay in this thread. No need to say you're aren't gay if you really aren't ...
There's also bi and bi-curious labels etc etc...please chose wisely lol

I notice that there is a pattern with bluesoul, PatrickLA, tsmounting, nysprod .... you guys fetishized whoreson cocksuckers living in a delusional fantasy....
Like i said you guys will be very welcome to lbgt community ....

[bluesoul]

There's also bi and bi-curious labels etc etc...please chose wisely lol

oh snap! i hope i get it right

http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/spellingsjeopardy.jpg

[PatrickLA]

I don't believe it! You can say what you want. Not buying it. You make a living off shemales so you will back them at all cost. But I know out here, in the REAL world, that being with a transsexual isn't acceptable. Maybe in Thailand or WeHo but not in most of this country.

Can't convince me.

And sorry about the comment I made. True or not, I guess some things shouldn't be said in an OPEN forum? Honesty? lol You read some of the comments the Trannies make? C'mon! Be fair! No double standards!

And I have enough money to pay for sex and I gladly do because I get to AVOID all the drama and say Good-bye when I am through!! I love prostitution! Thanks Charlie Sheen!

[PatrickLA]

obviously the Forum admin doesn't think so or agree. Can't bite the hands that feed you I guess!

[PatrickLA]

They do it for the money or they want to sleep with a straight guy. ALL shemales want to have sex with a straight man because it validates them as women! If they screwed gay guys, not the same result. Gay men are like women trapped in a males body.

And I like Jamie Markham in drag. I had her sister about 5 years ago and she was as female as they get for a TS!

[jamiethewild]

They do it for the money or they want to sleep with a straight guy. ALL shemales want to have sex with a straight man because it validates them as women! If they screwed gay guys, not the same result. Gay men are like women trapped in a males body.

And I like Jamie Markham in drag. I had her sister about 5 years ago and she was as female as they get for a TS!

who's saying that the men TS sleep with are straight ? .DUMB.. errrrrr stupid ....

BTW gay men don't desire to be females or feel like females thats why they stay as boys and date boys..

[bluesoul]

And I like Jamie Markham in drag. I had her sister about 5 years ago and she was as female as they get for a TS!

congrats buddy. you know that money you paid for the sexual services you received are now being put towards helping the less fortunate- so in a way, i actually have you to thank

[Chaos]

Sorry,but if you are a girl and call me gay for wanting to please you sexually,then it's YOUR issue not mine...YOU are identifying yourself as male if that's the case.

[scorpioluva]

"Baby Got Dick"

[Intro]
Oh, my, god. Becky, look at her cock.
It is so big. [scoff] She looks like,
one of those rap guys' girlfriends.
But, you know, who understands those rap guys? *scoff*
They only talk to her, because,
she looks like a total prostitute, 'kay?
I mean, her cock, is just so big.
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like,
out there, I mean - gross. Look!
She's just so ... Tranny!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like big cocks and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a stiff thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that cock was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that cock you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupie
I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's sweat, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' no cocks are the thing
Take the average transfan and ask him that
She gotta pack much dick
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the cock? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy cock!
Baby got dick!

(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got dick!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em firm and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for boobs
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knock-kneeded bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sisters, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Till the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna roll in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got dick!

Baby got dick!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a penis in the front of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got dick, hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that cock
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the cock ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waist is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the cock is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got dick!

(Little in the middle but she got much dick) [4x]

Fucking awesome, just awesome !!!!!!!!!! Laughing my ass off right now !!!!

[scorpioluva]

Transphobic Techno (Bitch Got a Penis) - (Your Favorite Martian music video) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6vDxvOXhQ)

Hilarious video man....and awesome song, too!!!!

[Chriseire]

Do you suck much cock?

[Rusty Eldora]

I am thoroughly convinced that 99 percent of men are on some level interested in pleasuring dicks. For some of us, we like dicks but are completely turned off by the aesthetics of typical straight men and love the aesthetics of women. Therefore, the transsexual aesthetic fits our wants. Because we may sometimes act on it, does that really change our basic orientation? Another reason why labels are useless. Are all men gay because they have a "gray area" where dicks are desirable simply because we can relate to the pleasure of having one? No point in torturing yourself over useless labels. Pussy is great, but so is dick.

I have an example, on the basically straight hobby board thehobbyhunter.com TS Isabella does ads and has a total of 70 posts. Her profile has been viewed 10,000 times. Yes she is an incredibly attractive woman but a lot of straight guys were checking her out - curious for sure.

So there are straight guys that will only be with their wife, and needed her to be a virgin when they wed. At the far end of the spectrum is the gay guy that wants two new guys each day.

I did a self test last month, visited Tgirltuesday in Long Beach. There were cute Tgirls, not so cute Tgirls, TV's, CD's, et al. There was a room full of guys also that were on the hunt - some seemed to be the same guys that try and pick up women at clubs, some seemed gay, a range.

Well I found that if the Tgirl vibed as a woman I was attracted, even some that were not attractive. Tgirls that didn't vibe that way I wasn't attracted, the TV's and CD's I must say I felt aversion to - as in NO way, all the more so as they vibed male or gay male. Some CD's tried to pick me up - no thanks.

So I like fem Tgirls, I am sure that doesn't fit into "straight" but its probably some variant of bi. I am just glad I found it. Dick is great, but so is Pussy.

[jamiethewild]

So I like fem Tgirls, I am sure that doesn't fit into "straight" but its probably some variant of bi. I am just glad I found it. Dick is great, but so is Pussy.

I like your honesty.

[Jimmy W]

Im sort of stealing from others here (Bailey Jay Radio) but this is how it makes sense to me (when I force myself to make sense of it) Sarina Valentina has a penis, if Brad Pitt had a vagina and If I was in charge of the world I would choose to wake up next to a beautiful angel with a hard on like Sarina every time and never even consider the other option. Maybe some day I'll wonder what that "makes" me.

[Chaos]

For some reason I feel the need to explain myself....so,yeah..

If I'm with a girl,I'm there for her....Not what's between her legs.
That might happen,though,and if it does....still there for her.
If a girl I like lifts her skirt and says "Blow Me?" Well, like I said,what's there doesn't matter...I'm there for HER. So,yes, I would,if that was where the moment was heading...
Now,if I was with a girl and she lifted her skirt and said "This is off limits." ?
No difference...still there for her,and there would be plenty to do still,if it led to sex.
Would I worry about being Gay or not? Fuck No! Why would I? I'm not with a MAN,now am I? Bi? Nope.Again,I'm not with a MAN.
What can I say? It KILLS me sometimes that you fight so hard to be accepted,and yet when you get angry enough,some of you are the first to alienate ALL of that acceptance....especially from your own self..

I realize I'm letting my heart bleed on a porn forum,so what? I'd rather be honest,and make you see me,than pander so all you see is a faceless fan.

[nysprod]

I notice that there is a pattern with bluesoul, PatrickLA, tsmounting, nysprod .... you guys fetishized whoreson cocksuckers living in a delusional fantasy....
Like i said you guys will be very welcome to lbgt community ....

Whatever...

[Redballs]

Who cares what you are. Just suck and enjoy. Penis and panties, what a combination.

[bluesoul]

Labels narrow definitions unnecessarily and are often used to threaten and oppress - and I'm not just talking about tg sex.

yeah, money and social classes are abused similarly.

[bluesoul]

For some reason I feel the need to explain myself....so,yeah..
Would I worry about being Gay or not? Fuck No! Why would I? I'm not with a MAN,now am I? Bi? Nope.Again,I'm not with a MAN.


if you weren't worried about being gay or not, you wouldn't "feel the need to explain" yourself

[bluesoul]

I'm not with a MAN,now am I? Bi? Nope.Again,I'm not with a MAN.

bissexual people are the ones that don't care what's between the legs. straight specify that the partner is the opposite sex and thus will have the opposite complimentary genitalia

[Teydyn]

straight specify that the partner is the opposite sex and thus will have the opposite complimentary genitalia
So a TS will always be a man as long as she has her penis?

[ed_jaxon]

This silly assed thread has gone 8 pages and I have yet to see the obvious label.

TRANS ATTRACTED MALE. (One who likes women and transgendered individuals.)

If you like men exclusively and are a man you are gay.

If you like men and women you are bisexual.

If you like women but are somewhat interested in what it might be like to be with a dude you are bicurious.

If you are exclusively attracted to women you are heterosexual.

If you insist on slapping your silly assed labels on others that don't fit you are an asshole.

[tsmounting]

This silly assed thread has gone 8 pages and I have yet to see the obvious label.

TRANS ATTRACTED MALE. (One who likes women and transgendered individuals.)

If you like men exclusively and are a man you are gay.

If you like men and women you are bisexual.

If you like women but are somewhat interested in what it might be like to be with a dude you are bicurious.

If you are exclusively attracted to women you are heterosexual.

If you insist on slapping your silly assed labels on others that don't fit you are an asshole.

I would prefer to have sex with a goat.

[trish]

I would prefer to have sex with a goat. Then you are an aegagrusphile. I don't blame you; satyrs are particularly adept at sexual acrobatics. I never knew one who didn't know how to give a girl a wonderfully good time.

[tragicomedy]

If you're a man sucking dick you're bi at the least.


But what about those of us who don't suck dick or get fucked but we have sex with transsexuals? In many South American countries we would be considered straight. In the U.S. and Europe, who knows.


Bottoms get laughed at as delusional closet cases, and some surely are.


But what about us tops? Maybe we are just deluded homophobes. I've been meaning to start a thread on tops (because it seems we're under represented and little discussed) for a while now and I might just do it when I get some time.

[Molly D'Vyne]

From a purely psychological/sociological point of view... this forum is entertaining as fuck. That being said...

I don't get how people are so quick to assume that the bulk of society has anything against transsexuals... yet are all part of this forum.

NEWSFLASH: IT'S 20FUCKING13 NOW, NOT THE 80's, NOT THE 90'S

WE EVEN HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE US! (OMG)

Society and culture are rapidly moving faster and faster toward acceptance of people... regardless of race, sex, orientation, or gender. The internet allows free access to information and encourages people to challenge old norms. The younger generations that have spent most of their lives online are increasingly open-minded... and even the older generations are softening up as secondhand exposure to new information leaks into their lives and their minds.

In the past couple weeks, a group of Saudi exchange students I'm friends with found out I'm trans... even coming from a culture that supports Sharia law, they still are accepting... and attracted to me.

It's worth adding, that I currently live in one of the most "conservative" areas of the US. It's a town where churches bussed people to City Hall to put mass public pressure against passing a bill that would have protected against discrimination toward LGBT people. (Surprise surprise, they succeeded for now... politicians have no balls)

Despite that, today I started work with a call center with several hundred employees... dressed in women's business casual. To their knowledge, I'm the company's first transsexual employee. Under my states law, they could have easily used that as grounds not to hire me in the first place. However, they took time to research in advance to figure out how to accommodate me the best they can. They even went as far as to give me the choice what bathrooms I'd prefer to use... even offering to convert their facilities to include a single person "family restroom".

And they're perfectly fine with my decision to use the regular women's facilities.

On top of that, people I've dated since my transition have no problem introducing me to their family. Hell, generally people's families absolutely LOVE me. So you can preach :bs: all you want... and I know people that aren't as passable always have it harder... but our society is definitely becoming more and more accepting toward trans people.

[jamiethewild]

If you like women but are somewhat interested in what it might be like to be with a dude you are bicurious.
If you are exclusively attracted to women you are heterosexual.

Go back and read the difference between hetero and bi-curious... you sound pretty delusional. The fact is that regardless wether you like it or not you're aren't straight because the sexual activity you're engaging with a transexual. Yeah she's a woman regardless if she's topping you but don't forget her genitalia isn't a vagina.

Don't be in denial ... the ones that are and keep explaining themselves makes themselves more obvious ..... peter puffer.

[dderek123]

From a purely psychological/sociological point of view... this forum is entertaining as fuck. That being said...

I don't get how people are so quick to assume that the bulk of society has anything against transsexuals... yet are all part of this forum.

NEWSFLASH: IT'S 20FUCKING13 NOW, NOT THE 80's, NOT THE 90'S

WE EVEN HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE US! (OMG)

Society and culture are rapidly moving faster and faster toward acceptance of people... regardless of race, sex, orientation, or gender. The internet allows free access to information and encourages people to challenge old norms. The younger generations that have spent most of their lives online are increasingly open-minded... and even the older generations are softening up as secondhand exposure to new information leaks into their lives and their minds.

In the past couple weeks, a group of Saudi exchange students I'm friends with found out I'm trans... even coming from a culture that supports Sharia law, they still are accepting... and attracted to me.

It's worth adding, that I currently live in one of the most "conservative" areas of the US. It's a town where churches bussed people to City Hall to put mass public pressure against passing a bill that would have protected against discrimination toward LGBT people. (Surprise surprise, they succeeded for now... politicians have no balls)

Despite that, today I started work with a call center with several hundred employees... dressed in women's business casual. To their knowledge, I'm the company's first transsexual employee. Under my states law, they could have easily used that as grounds not to hire me in the first place. However, they took time to research in advance to figure out how to accommodate me the best they can. They even went as far as to give me the choice what bathrooms I'd prefer to use... even offering to convert their facilities to include a single person "family restroom".

And they're perfectly fine with my decision to use the regular women's facilities.

On top of that, people I've dated since my transition have no problem introducing me to their family. Hell, generally people's families absolutely LOVE me. So you can preach :bs: all you want... and I know people that aren't as passable always have it harder... but our society is definitely becoming more and more accepting toward trans people.

Well said. :iagree:

I like to believe that you gotta love yourself before you really can love somebody else. There is so much confusion and self loathing here its pretty scary.

Well said. Over here in Thailand the powers that be are going to legalize gay and trans marriage. The TS social circles are really buzzing over it. Things are developing pretty nicely for TS communities in some parts of the world.

[Chaos]

if you weren't worried about being gay or not, you wouldn't "feel the need to explain" yourself

I'm sorry...worried about being gay?My family wonders to this day if I am or not....right to my face. Yet there is no malice involved,they just continue to see me by myself and think that I just don't like women.And ask about it...all the time...(Yes it's tiresome,but at least it shows they still care). Hell,my father is a Vietnam Era Marine and literally hates everyone,everywhere...and he would support me if I were.


I "feel the need to explain myself" because I am paranoid that people don't understand what I say,or that it might come out the wrong way. Because I spent most of my life having everything I say questioned to the point of absurdity.

For example,me explaining now that this is not an attack for what you said,just a reply.

[TSCURIOUS]

Have not read the whole thread-
Just suck a cock and see how you feel about it
Once you do and accept your feelings - you'll figure it out

[livepersona]

This should help clear things up.

Tropic Thunder (5/10) Movie CLIP - Never Go Full Retard (2008) HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q)

[Rusty Eldora]

This silly assed thread has gone 8 pages and I have yet to see the obvious label.

TRANS ATTRACTED MALE. (One who likes women and transgendered individuals.)

If you like men exclusively and are a man you are gay.

If you like men and women you are bisexual.

If you like women but are somewhat interested in what it might be like to be with a dude you are bicurious.

If you are exclusively attracted to women you are heterosexual.

If you insist on slapping your silly assed labels on others that don't fit you are an asshole.

TSMounting replied " I would prefer to have sex with a goat."

How about Sheep?


TS Curious is right On as well as Molly.

[dderek123]

TSMounting replied " I would prefer to have sex with a goat."

How about Sheep?


TS Curious is right On as well as Molly.

Velcro gloves might come in handy.

[TSCURIOUS]

^ Damn! I should have Phd attached to my name!

[tragicomedy]

I'm sorry...worried about being gay?My family wonders to this day if I am or not....right to my face. Yet there is no malice involved,they just continue to see me by myself and think that I just don't like women.And ask about it...all the time...(Yes it's tiresome,but at least it shows they still care). Hell,my father is a Vietnam Era Marine and literally hates everyone,everywhere...and he would support me if I were.


I "feel the need to explain myself" because I am paranoid that people don't understand what I say,or that it might come out the wrong way. Because I spent most of my life having everything I say questioned to the point of absurdity.

For example,me explaining now that this is not an attack for what you said,just a reply.
Are you attracted to gg enough to pursue a relationship? There are far more of them out there than tg. Are you attracted to men, if so what type? It sounds like there are plenty of people here who like trans the most and don't have interest in women or men. I like gg but find gay porn to be be a turnoff, even revolting and creepy. I realize thatthe thingsmany gay men like are very different, even though we are all men. Many straight and gay men would find you and I to be weird for liking ts

[robertlouis]

Then you are an aegagrusphile. I don't blame you; satyrs are particularly adept at sexual acrobatics. I never knew one who didn't know how to give a girl a wonderfully good time.

I'd say this guy is very self-centaured. :dancing:

[tragicomedy]

So a TS will always be a man as long as she has her penis?

We are rapidly moving away from that as a society. As for relationships, having a penis and not a vagina is a deal breaker for most men and lesbian women. Though you will find many who like it too.

[robertlouis]

From a purely psychological/sociological point of view... this forum is entertaining as fuck. That being said...

I don't get how people are so quick to assume that the bulk of society has anything against transsexuals... yet are all part of this forum.

NEWSFLASH: IT'S 20FUCKING13 NOW, NOT THE 80's, NOT THE 90'S

WE EVEN HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE US! (OMG)

Society and culture are rapidly moving faster and faster toward acceptance of people... regardless of race, sex, orientation, or gender. The internet allows free access to information and encourages people to challenge old norms. The younger generations that have spent most of their lives online are increasingly open-minded... and even the older generations are softening up as secondhand exposure to new information leaks into their lives and their minds.

In the past couple weeks, a group of Saudi exchange students I'm friends with found out I'm trans... even coming from a culture that supports Sharia law, they still are accepting... and attracted to me.

It's worth adding, that I currently live in one of the most "conservative" areas of the US. It's a town where churches bussed people to City Hall to put mass public pressure against passing a bill that would have protected against discrimination toward LGBT people. (Surprise surprise, they succeeded for now... politicians have no balls)

Despite that, today I started work with a call center with several hundred employees... dressed in women's business casual. To their knowledge, I'm the company's first transsexual employee. Under my states law, they could have easily used that as grounds not to hire me in the first place. However, they took time to research in advance to figure out how to accommodate me the best they can. They even went as far as to give me the choice what bathrooms I'd prefer to use... even offering to convert their facilities to include a single person "family restroom".

And they're perfectly fine with my decision to use the regular women's facilities.

On top of that, people I've dated since my transition have no problem introducing me to their family. Hell, generally people's families absolutely LOVE me. So you can preach :bs: all you want... and I know people that aren't as passable always have it harder... but our society is definitely becoming more and more accepting toward trans people.

Terrific post Molly. There will always be parts of society and within communities which instinctively react and can be hostile to anyone different, be they gay, trans, a different race, religion, immigrants, but the long-term trend is definitely towards acceptance. In the US, old angry white men will die out, just as angry Tory backbenchers will here in the UK.

There will be firefights on the way, but there will be only one outcome.

And the very best of good fortune to you in your continuing transition.

[tragicomedy]

Terrific post Molly. There will always be parts of society and within communities which instinctively react and can be hostile to anyone different, be they gay, trans, a different race, religion, immigrants, but the long-term trend is definitely towards acceptance. In the US, old angry white men will die out, just as angry Tory backbenchers will here in the UK.

There will be firefights on the way, but there will be only one outcome.

And the very best of good fortune to you in your continuing transition.
Isn't that funny how it is acceptable even chic for liberals to single out White men? Plenty of those angry old White men are former hippys who vote Democrat/Labour/Green but they are prbly same ones who think they are being hip for bashing fellow Whites. All the while decrying bigotry, except when it is bigotry toward Whites.

[Molly D'Vyne]

Isn't that funny how it is acceptable even chic for liberals to single out White men? Plenty of those angry old White men are former hippys who vote Democrat/Labour/Green but they are prbly same ones who think they are being hip for bashing fellow Whites. All the while decrying bigotry, except when it is bigotry toward Whites.

I'd imagine it's more a reference to the really loud, but powerful, minority that often derails progress in a politics... than to old white dudes in general. Most old white guys I personally know are cool with me lol.

[ed_jaxon]

Go back and read the difference between hetero and bi-curious... you sound pretty delusional. The fact is that regardless wether you like it or not you're aren't straight because the sexual activity you're engaging with a transexual. Yeah she's a woman regardless if she's topping you but don't forget her genitalia isn't a vagina.

Don't be in denial ... the ones that are and keep explaining themselves makes themselves more obvious ..... peter puffer.

Yo dumbass, I never used the word straight. I avoided that word by design.

I know exactly who I am; thanks for your concern.

A bisexual likes men and women. The thought of kissing a dude is not appealing for me and a lot of dudes here, so we are not really bisexual. Trans attracted male is what we are. We like the feminine of a woman or trans and that fact that some have a dick is not a problem.

Get over yourself and keep your goddamn labels to yourself.

[jamiethewild]

Yo dumbass, I never used the word straight. I avoided that word by design.

I know exactly who I am; thanks for your concern.

A bisexual likes men and women. The thought of kissing a dude is not appealing for me and a lot of dudes here, so we are not really bisexual. Trans attracted male is what we are. We like the feminine of a woman or trans and that fact that some have a dick is not a problem.

Get over yourself and keep your goddamn labels to yourself.

okay butt pirate ... re-read my post's in this thread.
who the fuck are you to tell me to keep my labels.

Say who you are instead of flustering on your conclusion moron.

[robertlouis]

I'd imagine it's more a reference to the really loud, but powerful, minority that often derails progress in a politics... than to old white dudes in general. Most old white guys I personally know are cool with me lol.

Thank you Molly, that's exactly what I meant, and they're self-identified and proud of it too. And as for "bashing fellow whites", I don't differentiate my fellow human beings by race. We're all the same and deserve respect, just as every individual's sexual preference does.

[ed_jaxon]

okay butt pirate ... re-read my post's in this thread.
who the fuck are you to tell me to keep my labels.

Say who you are instead of flustering on your conclusion moron.

I am Ed MF Jaxon. I thought you knew.

I gamble, drink, whore around and have no patience for self absorbed assholes such as yourself.

I hang with a lot of people on here in real life. Funny no one really knows who you are except you are a self hating idiot.

Oh yeah......Keep your goddamned labels off of other people. They don't appreciate it.

[jamiethewild]

I am Ed MF Jaxon. I thought you knew.

I gamble, drink, whore around and have no patience for self absorbed assholes such as yourself.

I hang with a lot of people on here in real life. Funny no one really knows who you are except you are a self hating idiot.

Oh yeah......Keep your goddamned labels off of other people. They don't appreciate it.

Really moron " hanging around people in real life" WOW another delusional statement from your faggot head ... some of you're friends are loners just like you in here. A least my friends come from the real world not internet.
you failed twice in this thread .... because i pretty certain you're one of members who login the most.... i feel srry for you ed jaxon ...

Btw there's two people who know me here... I rather keep my sweet image as it is than to be known as a cunt.

So shove youre denial case up you're f*ggotry ass and shut the fuck up.... fail to answer who you are... loser

[sheyum]

Now that we're insisting on labels..
i think we should come up with a new one...

for girls like jamie wild...the people who are so_____(hmm-I'll restrain myself here...) ..that they feel the NEED to prove that everyone else is gay...
they are a REAL type...

what shall we call them?

[jamiethewild]

Now that we're insisting on labels..
i think we should come up with a new one...

for girls like jamie wild...the people who are so_____(hmm-I'll restrain myself here...) ..that they feel the NEED to prove that everyone else is gay...
they are a REAL type...

what shall we call them?

I read all your reviews you do for girls on TER f*g ... I have many for you ....

[ed_jaxon]

Don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for the fool in the mirror who hates you.

This will be my last reply to you you self hating, ignoramus. I don't argue with fools.

I think you know you have issues. Don't assume anyone else is as fucked up as you are.

Ya fuckin goat.

Baaaa.

[garypeters123]

Who cares - do you like a cock in your mouth? If you do all it means is that you like cock. It doesn't mean you fit into a label. If you feel guilty, then you have a problem.

I like cock but I wouldn't consider myself gay. If my son or my father told me they were gay I wouldn't be upset in the least.

Likewise, just because a woman has a cock doesn't make her any less of a woman. Or if a man has a vagina he is still a man.

[jamiethewild]

Don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for the fool in the mirror who hates you.

This will be my last reply to you you self hating, ignoramus. I don't argue with fools.

I think you know you have issues. Don't assume anyone else is as fucked up as you are.

Ya fuckin goat.

Baaaa.

Awww ... obviously it did hurt you little animal ... you fail 3 times wow....

[sheyum]

you read my reviews on TER?
huuuuuh???

[jamiethewild]

you read my reviews on TER?
huuuuuh???

Don't be such a dummy :dead: hopefully you get it ...

[sheyum]

im must be dummer than i think
have no fucking idea what youre talking about

[MdR Dave]

Or if a man has a vagina he is still a man.

I'm not going along with that.

[tragicomedy]

I'd imagine it's more a reference to the really loud, but powerful, minority that often derails progress in a politics... than to old white dudes in general. Most old white guys I personally know are cool with me lol.

True, but to identify a race/ethnicity as a pejorative descriptive like this guy has is a firing offence for liberals/p.c. types when used against other groups.

But against White men, old or otherwise...it's all good.


Not to mention that Western White (including the cranky old ones) men are like the Janus of ethno-political demographic groups, often the worst enemy and best friends of gender minorities.

[tragicomedy]

Thank you Molly, that's exactly what I meant, and they're self-identified and proud of it too. And as for "bashing fellow whites", I don't differentiate my fellow human beings by race. We're all the same and deserve respect, just as every individual's sexual preference does.

Which is all good except for when you do the exact opposite to White males.


It would be nice if White liberals applied a little of that to Whites when they are fighting bigotry and racial insensitivity directed at other groups...

[tragicomedy]

Yo dumbass, I never used the word straight. I avoided that word by design.

I know exactly who I am; thanks for your concern.

A bisexual likes men and women. The thought of kissing a dude is not appealing for me and a lot of dudes here, so we are not really bisexual. Trans attracted male is what we are. We like the feminine of a woman or trans and that fact that some have a dick is not a problem.

Get over yourself and keep your goddamn labels to yourself.


I think you're being disingenuous here. How many tales have we heard about men losing interest after hearing someone is post-op?

The dick is a big deal, there's a diversity in why...but that seems to be a major factor for just about everyone.

[robertlouis]

Which is all good except for when you do the exact opposite to White males.


It would be nice if White liberals applied a little of that to Whites when they are fighting bigotry and racial insensitivity directed at other groups...

Here's one for ya, tc. I'm a white male. It's usually accepted that it's ok to criticise people from your own race, party or religion, but less so if you're talking about others, eg blacks criticise blacks, jews crtiticise jews and so on.

I'm taking a shot at, as you would have it no doubt, "my own people".

What's your beef with that?

[tragicomedy]

Here's one for ya, tc. I'm a white male. It's usually accepted that it's ok to criticise people from your own race, party or religion, but less so if you're talking about others, eg blacks criticise blacks, jews crtiticise jews and so on.

I'm taking a shot at, as you would have it no doubt, "my own people".

What's your beef with that?

Those people usually "taking shots" usually are doing it out of love, an in-group joke.

When have we seen that from White liberals? The hate they have for non-liberal Whites is palpable. It's DEFINITELY not an in-group joke. How can they really say it's the same thing when White liberals fight tooth and nail against even the thought of addressing discimination against Whites or even something as simple as a White community?


When someone brings up the idea of a White/European heritage month or a scholarship for White people....who gets up in arms against it?


Not African, Asian, or Hispanic Americans. It's White liberals. It's sick.

[robertlouis]

Those people usually "taking shots" usually are doing it out of love, an in-group joke.

When have we seen that from White liberals? The hate they have for non-liberal Whites is palpable. It's DEFINITELY not an in-group joke. How can they really say it's the same thing when White liberals fight tooth and nail against even the thought of addressing discimination against Whites or even something as simple as a White community?


When someone brings up the idea of a White/European heritage month or a scholarship for White people....who gets up in arms against it?


Not African, Asian, or Hispanic Americans. It's White liberals. It's sick.

Your perceptions and prejudices against white liberals, in fact, delete the white, is as far off the mark as your preconceptions about Muslims.

I've already said that I don't recognise or acknowledge so-called racial differences. Cultural ones, yes, but I respect and embrace them. That's how you do away with prejudice. I have black, Asian, Jewish, Muslim, gay, lesbian, trans friends. Oh, and friends in the police and people who'd describe themselves as conservative too. They're all the same to me. Other than being sensitive around cultural norms, I don't treat anyone differently.

What's your problem with that?

[tragicomedy]

Your perceptions and prejudices against white liberals, in fact, delete the white, is as far off the mark as your preconceptions about Muslims.

I've already said that I don't recognise or acknowledge so-called racial differences. Cultural ones, yes, but I respect and embrace them. That's how you do away with prejudice. I have black, Asian, Jewish, Muslim, gay, lesbian, trans friends. Oh, and friends in the police and people who'd describe themselves as conservative too. They're all the same to me. Other than being sensitive around cultural norms, I don't treat anyone differently.

What's your problem with that?

What's your problem with it?

You're the one who decided to take a shot at old White males.

[robertlouis]

What's your problem with it?

You're the one who decided to take a shot at old White males.

OK, if it makes you happy, delete that and just refer to male Republicans, which you know just as well as I do was the demographic to which I was referring.

Not whites, just Republicans.

Right. I'm done. Fuck's sake.

[Molly D'Vyne]

Those people usually "taking shots" usually are doing it out of love, an in-group joke.

You've obviously not spent enough time actually hanging out with people that aren't white if you think hate toward one's one race doesn't exist among other races as well.

I like some of the points you've made, but this tangent attacking a guy for mild usage of a common social scapegoat is kind of off-kilter. I do like the Janus reference though. I think the divide between generations is one that is easy to strike at... old people often carry a generalized dislike of young people just as younger people often do the same in reverse. I wonder what point people hit when they switch from one to the other... is that what triggers a mid-life crisis?

As far as the penis, vagina, human thing goes though... how often do people seriously know what genitalia a person is equipped with when they're initially attracted to them? People make assumptions, but the genitalia is typically an afterthought when interacting with others. If someone looks like an attractive woman... and you're attracted to women... why would being attracted to them make you "gay?".

[tragicomedy]

OK, if it makes you happy, delete that and just refer to male Republicans, which you know just as well as I do was the demographic to which I was referring.

Not whites, just Republicans.

Right. I'm done. Fuck's sake.

That's fine. As long as you acknowledge your hypocrisy, that's more than I can ever hope for from the self-hating White liberal set. They wear their hatred of White non-liberals (and some even hate fellow White liberals) as
a badge of honor and symbol of their devotion to 'the cause.'

[tragicomedy]

You've obviously not spent enough time actually hanging out with people that aren't white if you think hate toward one's one race doesn't exist among other races as well.

I like some of the points you've made, but this tangent attacking a guy for mild usage of a common social scapegoat is kind of off-kilter. I do like the Janus reference though. I think the divide between generations is one that is easy to strike at... old people often carry a generalized dislike of young people just as younger people often do the same in reverse. I wonder what point people hit when they switch from one to the other... is that what triggers a mid-life crisis?

As far as the penis, vagina, human thing goes though... how often do people seriously know what genitalia a person is equipped with when they're initially attracted to them? People make assumptions, but the genitalia is typically an afterthought when interacting with others. If someone looks like an attractive woman... and you're attracted to women... why would being attracted to them make you "gay?".



I never said that there aren't self-hating members of other groups.

I do think it's curious that it's kind of accepted among Whites, perhaps even celebrated by some self-hating White liberals.


But why is it even cute to have "common social scapegoats." exactly? Why is it okay to scapegoat White males? Especially when the people who do it are mostly White liberals, who are quick to action against descrimination aimed at other groups.


Genitalia has to be a huge factor. Ask how many guys would mess with a woman who had ambiguous genitalia....a lot of us would pass. I know I would. It sounds cruel, and it is cruel. But that's not something I could stomach.

The same probably applies to a lot of men if asked about women with different size breasts. She takes off her top and she has one A cup and one C cup? Guys will notice and be turned off. It is what it is.

[Molly D'Vyne]

But why is it even cute to have "common social scapegoats." exactly? Why is it okay to scapegoat White males? Especially when the people who do it are mostly White liberals, who are quick to action against descrimination aimed at other groups.

When did I say it was cute? I just said it's common. And statistically... those with power... those referred to as "the man"... are generally white and older.

I'm not trying to encourage the phenomena, just acknowledge its existence. It more falls into a socioeconomic divide than racism.

And as for the genitalia... from personal experience it is less of a problem than people seem to assume it is. Not saying that there aren't those that would, or do have a problem... just saying that those that don't have a problem are vastly underestimated.

[tragicomedy]

When did I say it was cute? I just said it's common. And statistically... those with power... those referred to as "the man"... are generally white and older.

I'm not trying to encourage the phenomena, just acknowledge its existence. It more falls into a socioeconomic divide than racism.

And as for the genitalia... from personal experience it is less of a problem than people seem to assume it is. Not saying that there aren't those that would, or do have a problem... just saying that those that don't have a problem are vastly underestimated.



Well consider beyond hooking up, when it comes time to settle down. Consider how many men are willing to stay with a woman he knows can't give him his own biological children? I'm not sure what percentage of men aren't interested in having kids, but they are probably aren't that much more likely to date transwomen as other men.

Biotech is going to change a lot in society. If technology advances that way, I'd love to know how many non-op transwomen would undergo a future SRS that would allow them to become pregnant and deliver children with their husband.

[robertlouis]

That's fine. As long as you acknowledge your hypocrisy, that's more than I can ever hope for from the self-hating White liberal set. They wear their hatred of White non-liberals (and some even hate fellow White liberals) as
a badge of honor and symbol of their devotion to 'the cause.'

That wasn't hypocrisy. I used a mildly misleading term and you jumped down my throat to pursue your own peculiar agenda.

I certainly don't regard myself as self-hating. You seem to think that because I celebrate and accept all races, creeds and sexual groups that it somehow constitutes self-hatred? You've got a very warped sense of who I am and what I believe.

Yes, there are some liberals, white or otherwise, who make themselves ridiculous caricatures by pursuing doctrinaire correctness to the point of absurdity, but that certainly isn't me.

Find someone to fit that label if you must, but don't dump your anti-liberal preconceptions on me. Go back to your ludicrous one-man HA crusade to hang every ill in the western world on the door of the muslims by all means.

Instead of attacking me and other similarly-minded folks on HA for some weird definition of yours for reverse racism, try dealing with your own ingrained race hatred. You might even enjoy it.

[tragicomedy]

That wasn't hypocrisy. I used a mildly misleading term and you jumped down my throat to pursue your own peculiar agenda.

I certainly don't regard myself as self-hating. You seem to think that because I celebrate and accept all races, creeds and sexual groups that it somehow constitutes self-hatred? You've got a very warped sense of who I am and what I believe.

Yes, there are some liberals, white or otherwise, who make themselves ridiculous caricatures by pursuing doctrinaire correctness to the point of absurdity, but that certainly isn't me.

Find someone to fit that label if you must, but don't dump your anti-liberal preconceptions on me. Go back to your ludicrous one-man HA crusade to hang every ill in the western world on the door of the muslims by all means.

Instead of attacking me and other similarly-minded folks on HA for some weird definition of yours for reverse racism, try dealing with your own ingrained race hatred. You might even enjoy it.

I didn't call you self-hating.

[robertlouis]

You've obviously not spent enough time actually hanging out with people that aren't white if you think hate toward one's one race doesn't exist among other races as well.

I like some of the points you've made, but this tangent attacking a guy for mild usage of a common social scapegoat is kind of off-kilter. I do like the Janus reference though. I think the divide between generations is one that is easy to strike at... old people often carry a generalized dislike of young people just as younger people often do the same in reverse. I wonder what point people hit when they switch from one to the other... is that what triggers a mid-life crisis?

As far as the penis, vagina, human thing goes though... how often do people seriously know what genitalia a person is equipped with when they're initially attracted to them? People make assumptions, but the genitalia is typically an afterthought when interacting with others. If someone looks like an attractive woman... and you're attracted to women... why would being attracted to them make you "gay?".

Thanks again for the support, Molly, but as you can see, tragicomedy and I have history. Elsewhere on the board he seems intent on hanging the blame for every ill in western society on the muslims, so we know where he stands.

But enough of our little feud.

You nail the reality perfectly in your final para. I've never been primarily attracted to a woman by what I might presume to be between her legs, to put it somewhat crudely. There are lots of other things that constitute attraction - looks, personality, chemistry, compatibility. The first time I slept with a trans woman I had no idea that she was trans until she told me. By that time we'd had several dates, she was entirely convincing, and by the time we finally got down to sex, I'd fallen for the person I was with and her genital arrangements were irrelevant.

So my motivation was primarily romantic, but there's surely nothing wrong with that. That said, I'm not and never have been a cockhound, it's not a fetish and never will be, I start and end with the whole woman, not her genitals. After all, you can't discuss the issues of the day with them or hope that they'll drive you home when you're over the limit lol.

[Molly D'Vyne]

Well consider beyond hooking up, when it comes time to settle down. Consider how many men are willing to stay with a woman he knows can't give him his own biological children? I'm not sure what percentage of men aren't interested in having kids, but they are probably aren't that much more likely to date transwomen as other men.

Biotech is going to change a lot in society. If technology advances that way, I'd love to know how many non-op transwomen would undergo a future SRS that would allow them to become pregnant and deliver children with their husband.

The inability to have children can be an issue with some... but considering the number of cis women that have fertility issues, it's something that most in society are prepared to deal with I think. I wouldn't be opposed at all to bringing in a surrogate if necessary so a guy could have his own kids... assuming I end up with a guy in the first place.

As far as if tech evolved to the point of giving trans women a viable uterus within a reasonable time frame... you damn well better believe I'd be jumping into line! And I more or less border on that thought of being non-op... it's more that I'm waiting for better surgical techniques to become standard practice than strictly avoiding SRS though.

[tragicomedy]

Thanks again for the support, Molly, but as you can see, tragicomedy and I have history. Elsewhere on the board he seems intent on hanging the blame for every ill in western society on the muslims, so we know where he stands.

But enough of our little feud.

You nail the reality perfectly in your final para. I've never been primarily attracted to a woman by what I might presume to be between her legs, to put it somewhat crudely. There are lots of other things that constitute attraction - looks, personality, chemistry, compatibility. The first time I slept with a trans woman I had no idea that she was trans until she told me. By that time we'd had several dates, she was entirely convincing, and by the time we finally got down to sex, I'd fallen for the person I was with and her genital arrangements were irrelevant.

So my motivation was primarily romantic, but there's surely nothing wrong with that. That said, I'm not and never have been a cockhound, it's not a fetish and never will be, I start and end with the whole woman, not her genitals. After all, you can't discuss the issues of the day with them or hope that they'll drive you home when you're over the limit lol.

If you're going to attack me when replying to a third person about a conversation on another thread, the least you could do is not exaggerate what I said. But what should I expect...

[robertlouis]

If you're going to attack me when replying to a third person about a conversation on another thread, the least you could do is not exaggerate what I said. But what should I expect...

Yeah. We don't get on. Live with it! :dancing:

[tragicomedy]

The inability to have children can be an issue with some... but considering the number of cis women that have fertility issues, it's something that most in society are prepared to deal with I think. I wouldn't be opposed at all to bringing in a surrogate if necessary so a guy could have his own kids... assuming I end up with a guy in the first place.


Infertile Cis women are who I had in mind. Following financial problems and infidelity, infertility ranks up there as one of the most common reason for couples to break up. Now consider men who are going into a relationship knowing early on that his wife won't be able to have his kids...

I hadn't even thought of the female surrogate option, to be honest.

As far as if tech evolved to the point of giving trans women a viable uterus within a reasonable time frame... you damn well better believe I'd be jumping into line! And I more or less border on that thought of being non-op... it's more that I'm waiting for better surgical techniques to become standard practice than strictly avoiding SRS though.

I wonder how that fits into the decision to be non-op for other transwomen. When you think of those who are in sex work, I've been told it can greatly reduce the number of customers they see.

[tragicomedy]

Yeah. We don't get on. Live with it! :dancing:

I don't care if we get on or not, but I do notice you and the other Britsh guy who decided to play liberal crusader on the other thread don't want to play by the rules you set for other people. Then when you get called out for it, you don't want to acknowledge it. I guess that's what happens when one lacks both scruples and balls/bollocks.

[Molly D'Vyne]

I wonder how that fits into the decision to be non-op for other transwomen. When you think of those who are in sex work, I've been told it can greatly reduce the number of customers they see.

Porn is fun, but sex-work is something I've avoided... pretty much for the same reasons I'm not a street pharmacist. Too much risk, and I have too many other talents to work with. It would be interesting to do a large survey of trans women and see what sort of careers they are in and what their op plans are though.

[Prospero]

Tragicomedy - do you think it right to extend your diatribes against white liberals into every thread on this forum. You'll get called out on this soon - and the posts will be removed. Argue all you like in the politics forum but keep to the point here.

[jessicamoore]

Sucking a dick just makes you a cocksucker lmao

[tragicomedy]

Tragicomedy - do you think it right to extend your diatribes against white liberals into every thread on this forum. You'll get called out on this soon - and the posts will be removed. Argue all you like in the politics forum but keep to the point here.

Best not to start a fight.

[tragicomedy]

Tragicomedy - do you think it right to extend your diatribes against white liberals into every thread on this forum. You'll get called out on this soon - and the posts will be removed. Argue all you like in the politics forum but keep to the point here.

It would be nice if you guys actually practiced what you preached. I'll try if you try. Even once.

[GroobySteven]

It would be nice if you guys actually practiced what you preached. I'll try if you try. Even once.

FINAL WARNING : Keep your racial/political/socio-stereotyping comments & diatribe on the Politics & Religion forum unless absolutely relevant to a thread here. Constant derailment of threads to further your own agenda, will have you taking a vacation.
Continuing, including replying, to this post, will have you taking a vacation.

That goes to everyone else - move on.

[tragicomedy]

FINAL WARNING : Keep your racial/political/socio-stereotyping comments & diatribe on the Politics & Religion forum unless absolutely relevant to a thread here. Constant derailment of threads to further your own agenda, will have you taking a vacation.
Continuing, including replying, to this post, will have you taking a vacation.

That goes to everyone else - move on.


One of your British buddies derailed it. You could never be trusted to actually do your job properly, Seanchai.

Thanks for the ban. I may be back under a different moniker and IP. You'll still be scum.

[GroobySteven]

One of your British buddies derailed it. You could never be trusted to actually do your job properly, Seanchai.

Thanks for the ban. I may be back under a different moniker and IP. You'll still be scum.

... and you'll be caught yet again making a fool out of yourself.
Bye.

[jwilliams78]

I have sucked tgirl cock I find it very hot

[vastry]

Sucking a dick just makes you a cocksucker lmao


Maybee but I only mouth fem looking tgirls /ladyboys.. i wd never go near a manly tgirl or a man..:nervous:

[Sinista]

Whoever consider themselves straight & suck tgirl dick's on top of that your in denial,cause I am bout that life & proud of it,yes I am gay I love the ladies to the full fledge fullest

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Call me what you will. Although I don't care if a Trans Lady has a cock or has fully transitioned....if she still has a cock, I will provide her pleasure. However, I am not interested in doing the same for a guy....it just ain't happenin'!!

[bellyboy123]

Hi everyone, not sure this age old subject is the right time to post my first message, but isn't the answer to this very simple. In my opinion, a guy is a guy, in every way, but the ladies here, these ladies have the mentality of a female, the interests of a female, the ladies here behave like females, because that's what they know they are at heart, females. So if there is a penis attached, who cares, that doesn't make you gay in my opinion, and i think that's where the attraction from straight guys comes from, because we can see you as females, if the penis is there, it doesn't matter. That's what i think anyway.

[cbrowneye]

Hi everyone, not sure this age old subject is the right time to post my first message, but isn't the answer to this very simple. In my opinion, a guy is a guy, in every way, but the ladies here, these ladies have the mentality of a female, the interests of a female, the ladies here behave like females, because that's what they know they are at heart, females. So if there is a penis attached, who cares, that doesn't make you gay in my opinion, and i think that's where the attraction from straight guys comes from, because we can see you as females, if the penis is there, it doesn't matter. That's what i think anyway.

Difference is, if YOU consider them females just as natural born females, why would you want one with a dick? Natural born females don't have dicks! IMO, you only want a dick when you are AT LEAST bi-sexual. Otherwise you would stick with natural born females. So the answer to the thread issue is....if you as a male have anything to do sexually with another persons dick(cock to you lol) you are NOT straight and are at least bi-sexual. Just accept it as fact and be happy about it. It doesn't matter what someone considers themselves to be...they are genetically male so that's what they are. Nothing wrong with them changing it up but we need to be totally honest with ourselves.

[trish]

You guys got it all backwards. I work for TECTCH (The Evangelical Christian Tranny Cure for Homosexuality). Our technique is to trick homosexual guys into sex with transgender 'women' which huge black dicks. We gradually swap those 'girls' out for tg's with smaller and smaller dicks. After a few months those queers are cornholing real genetic females and are as straight as the all American boy next door. If you're into shemale cock, you're not gay...you're halfway cured. :)

[liverpoolboy]

This is a very interesting discussion, I see your point here, but take this scenario, you meet a girl, think shes great, then after a while the bomshell is dropped on you that she was born a man and is planning full transition...does the love for that person just vanish??? If the penis and balls are taken out of the picture there is no male organs left, would you still then consider yourself gay/bisexual for having sex with that person, i don't think i would.

[RallyCola]

You guys got it all backwards. I work for TECTCH (The Evangelical Christian Tranny Cure for Homosexuality). Our technique is to trick homosexual guys into sex with transgender 'women' which huge black dicks. We gradually swap those 'girls' out for tg's with smaller and smaller dicks. After a few months those queers are cornholing real genetic females and are as straight as the all American boy next door. If you're into shemale cock, you're not gay...you're halfway cured. :)

$1000 says you can probably get one of the 800 republican primary presidential candidates to support this idea!

[buttslinger]

TS porn is 95% porn and 5% dick.
TS sex is 65% sex and 35% dick.

[jamesedwards]

Maybee but I only mouth fem looking tgirls /ladyboys.. i wd never go near a manly tgirl or a man..:nervous:

Amen to that shit!!!! I am attracted to femininity!!!

[jamesedwards]

Sucking a dick just makes you a cocksucker lmao

Hell yeah!!! well actually it makes me a TGirl Dick Sucka LOL There's nothing like a TGirl telling me, "get on your knees you bitch and suck this dick". That shit is sexy and when she grabs the back of my head trust me Ima suck that dick nasty and that ain't gay.

[jamesedwards]

stop the dam press! Hold up. You are whatttttttt and whhhhhhhhhat and waaaaat? You're gay and love ladies?

Where's that symbol that you put your hand over your head when you need it. :yayo:

First off Gay men don't like femininity, and they dam sure don't like Ladies they like other men who are for the most part GAY! I'm not in denial you are confused as fuck! Saying you're about that life don't mean shit to the actual definition.

Let me get this right, you do know TGirls are called girls for a reason right? Trans-sex? So if a TGirl sucks a man's dick what does that make her, gay?


Whoever consider themselves straight & suck tgirl dick's on top of that your in denial,cause I am bout that life & proud of it,yes I am gay I love the ladies to the full fledge fullest

[Ts RedVeX]

I have an idea: let's enrich English language with a new definition of an existing word "stray" whose meaning also already contains the "confused" bit...

Straight <> Stray <> Gay

...and use it to refer to people who like chicks with dicks or men with pussies. E voi la! Problem solved! You need no longer worry about whether you are gay, or straight, and get confused, because you're just stray:D

[DeadGirl-Productions]

Everytime I look down and see some dude sucking my dick I can't help but wonder, "How could any situation be more heterosexual than this?"

Then I remind myself... vagina - they could be doing this to a vagina. Then they pay me and leave and it's instantly no longer any of my business.

[tmaht]

This evolvement theory that some believe that if you are with a ts that will eventually lead to wanting to be with a guy is just stupid...If that's the case then you must also believe that a guy who has never been with a ts kisses his gf he eventually will want to be with a ts and a guy because they have lips to kiss.....It's about the attraction dumbass....One other thing...If a guy who has never been with anyone but a girl could suck his own dick he would...He would because he can...Is he gay?...No.....In the end does it really matter...Seriously does it?...No

[must93]

Well to me you will be in love!

[MiaMaffiaFan]

Labels are pretty stupid. Just enjoy sex.

[trish]

Your dick isn't gay or straight, it just wants to fuckin' cum.

[y3llowking]

If you are attracted to dick in anyway,you have some gay in you no way around it guys, stop coping lol. I'm personally attracted to feminine looking humans, so will be down to fuck(top) any human feminine looking enough that catch my eye, don't care if is male/trans/female or anything in between. I never had the compulsion to suck a dick let alone jam it in my ass BUT still find the contrast of male genitalia against a feminine looking body, aesthetic and sexually appealing if only from a voyeuristic point of view, so still not out of the woods nor that I care. Straight guys are only attracted to genetic females, I know because I was one for many years but not anymore, the soonest you accept and embrace your fag side the easiest you will come to terms with you sexuality and have inner peace haha

[loren]

I'm a girl, who has a little something extra, and I like guys. That makes me a straight girl. If a guy wants to suck my clitty he's still straight, because I am a girl.

[tacocorp]

I'm a girl, who has a little something extra, and I like guys. That makes me a straight girl. If a guy wants to suck my clitty he's still straight, because I am a girl.

Pretty much what I think, going down on a woman is not gay.

[soulvett]

As much as people will say do away with the labels, its difficult to change that kind of standard of thinking. Society itself relies on that sort of structure, you see it when it comes to gender, sex, preferences etc. Sure sex is sex, but we in our own way are forced to define what kind of sex we enjoy. Our dicks don't do any thinking but our brains sure do. I've had maybe one real experience with a transgirl and even that didnt go anywhere apart from making out and me getting 30 seconds of head before I was called away, even before all of that she was decent enough to make sure by asking me if I knew what trans meant - to which I replied that I didn't discriminate.

Damn, that was years ago and I still remember that haha.

Anyway, sorry for derailing the topic. I'd say its about what you think the most. If you see the person as a woman, transwoman or whatever the hell else there is these days then you slap on whatever label for yourself you'd like and call it a day.

[Highazhard69]

G'day.

This is my first post on this site. I am an Australian male attracted to t-girls and girls. Previously have been with a few feminine TS and love nothing more than having a sexy shecock rammed down my throat untill I gag or to slowly caress her sensual cock to explosion for me. I am turned on by some flat chested lady boys with bodies akin to boys with feminine features. I would say this love of shecock makes me bi (a label is just a label agreed.)

Although I have never sucked a man off the step from a ladyboy too a feminine man is not far and maybe in the right setting situation I would maybe try. Then id be tri sexual woot lol. Although I am not turned on by men especially not masculine men eeew.


Just thought id throw my two cents worth in the ring lol. It really makes no difference how you look at it as long as its fun. TS are girls by identity and nature and should be treated as lady's unless she wants too be treated like a dirty slut jks. Alas if she has a hard cock and full fills your greatest dirty desires your not completely straight lol. Never heard of a girl that can fill your arse untill it spasms you too a hot hands free spray juicing with her clit.

Wow your clitoris is so hard it has burst out of your skirt or are you just happy to see me.

[harry24844722]

I would say that variety is the spice of life and that life is too short not to try everything on offer. I have punted for twenty years and only seen TS the last eight months. I'm loving seeing TS but don't consider myself gay as they look and feel like women and that's what attracted me not a man. Worst case consider yourself bi but don't be ashamed as no one really gives a f@£k and if you can live with yourself that's all that matters.

[Iwonder2794]

I eat and suck on nice pussy and clits and love it! I've never did anything with a transexual but if I ever do I don't think it would be any different then sucking a bigger clit. Both of them makes her cum. If they're passable then its different then a man because to me men aren't attractive at all.

[canihavu]

I'm a girl, who has a little something extra, and I like guys. That makes me a straight girl. If a guy wants to suck my clitty he's still straight, because I am a girl.

That's how I have always thought about it. I love going down on females period. If she has a vagina or a penis - she has to be feminine. I could never suck the dick of a hairy ass man, not attracted at all.

[Vladimir Putin]

This is what Hillary thinks.

[Lovecox]

And if you suck a dog's cock you're a pervert. So what?

[Sinista]

When it comes to this there is nothing straight about it @ the end of the day the male is still a man it don't matter on what the reference is

[Iwonder2794]

No because I'm attracted to women.

[Ts RedVeX]

I will shed some light onto your issues: not every man is a male, and not every woman is a female.

[Wendy Summers]

That's how I have always thought about it. I love going down on females period. If she has a vagina or a penis - she has to be feminine. I could never suck the dick of a hairy ass man, not attracted at all.

So I'm guessing a woman with a natural bush must be out of the question then?

[buttslinger]

Hey man, my hetero side thinks all the LADIES on this here site are FINE. However, my gay side looks at you GUYS, and hey, you losers would have to go UP to be gay!!!

[Lonely rob]

I think most men and women are multisexual. Being completely straight is living in denial. In the internet age,everyone sneaks a peek. Look at gay porn. If you get hard, guess what.

[hamdasl]

If it feels good, do it!!

[Cocksmith]

You know what they say... Build 1000 bridges, suck one dick, you're not a bridge builder-you're a dicksucker
but in all reality, you do you-who cares. I've only fucked girls, but i jack it to t-girl porn regularly. i like cock-sue me!!

[joesocalif]

The difference, a mans cock in your mouth makes you sick cause that is just plain grosse. But a trannies, she's gorgeous, beautiful, can make you cum without touching your dick, her cock can make you leave your wife. So to make this perfectly clear. A mans cock in your mouth your fucking gay, a trannies cock your in love.

[Jericho]

This is one of those herpes threads.
The gift that that just keeps giving! :dead-1:

[Lester316]

The difference, a mans cock in your mouth makes you sick cause that is just plain grosse. But a trannies, she's gorgeous, beautiful, can make you cum without touching your dick, her cock can make you leave your wife. So to make this perfectly clear. A mans cock in your mouth your fucking gay, a trannies cock your in love.

Priceless...

[canihavu]

The difference, a mans cock in your mouth makes you sick cause that is just plain grosse. But a trannies, she's gorgeous, beautiful, can make you cum without touching your dick, her cock can make you leave your wife. So to make this perfectly clear. A mans cock in your mouth your fucking gay, a trannies cock your in love.

I feel you on this one. I tried to suck a mans dick once and I couldn't even go through with it. When I suck a feminine tranny dick, I get sooooooooooooooooo horny. I met one recently and although she's about 6'1", she looks like a model. She has about 8 thick inches and I have sucked it about three times since we met.

[Erika1487]

This is one of those herpes threads.
The gift that that just keeps giving! :dead-1:

I will second that :dead-1:

[peacheater]

This is one of those herpes threads.
The gift that that just keeps giving! :dead-1:
Bang on - one of those questions that never goes away. Just when you think it's over....BAM! Back again...and again...and...

[kmersh]

My two cents for whatever they are worth.

As someone who has never sucked a cock, but is dating a Non-Op Transgender Female I look at this way, again for whatever it is worth.

If you are intimate with a MTF Transgender Female you are with a female.

Granted the anatomy does not necessarily match, but the person you are with identifies as Female.

In our relationship we view the penis as a big clit and treat it as such. If she wanted me to go down on her I would go down on her like I would on any woman.

All that said, she prefers and I respect her wishes that I do not go down on her as she really does not get a lot from it, she prefers sex.

IMHO to be Gay one has to be with a male, thus, in my mind anatomy does not define gender strictly, how one identifies, male/female defines gender more accurately.

Again, just my two cents.

[trish]

If i suck a man cock im gay Only if it makes you lighthearted and carefree.

if a sock a transexual cock im straight Only if it extends a portion of your anatomy uniformly in one direction without a bend or a curve.

im confused.Hey, we're only human.

[bluesoul]

In our relationship we view the penis as a big clit and treat it as such.

okay. but does that mean she views your penis as a big clit as well?



If she wanted me to go down on her I would go down on her like I would on any woman.

what do you mean by this? can you actually perform fellatio the same way you a cis-gender female (GG) as you would a transwoman who has no received gender reassignment surgery?



how one identifies, male/female defines gender more accurately.


what if someone changes their mind and de-transitions? also, can someone identify as a member of the opposite gender while maintaining the look of their birth-gender? i guess what i'm getting at is, is there another way of proving what they say besides taking their word for it?

as one user eloquently put it: transwomen are human and humans don't always tell the truth (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?100214-Penis-Size-Integrity-2016!!!&p=1720318&viewfull=1#post1720318)


thanks in advance

[Redballs]

Who cares. Get on your knees, close your eyes and suck. Maybe you will get lucky and get a load in your mouth.

[Sdnfa1]

Well my friend all i can say n im very new to this life style if sucking a cock makea me gay fag whatever... ive only sucked 3 so far and i love it .mshould of did this along time ago!! Cant wait for one to bend me over n turns me out YUMMY

[kmersh]

With regards to question #:1 NO.
With regards to question #:2 There is some amount of imagination (is the wrong word but I am at a loss for a better one at the moment) required as there are difference in anatomy, but maybe more eloquently said in the style as I would on a genetic female.
With regards to questions #:3 Hard to answer. With regards to my Girlfriend, she identifies as Female, her driver's license has the F marker and she lives day in day out as a female, she is a female as far as I am concerned, could someone be lying sure, it is entirely possible. I guess it is a case by case basis.

[IluvemHung]

Why even entertain people that post topics or questions such as this. Nobody makes you come to this site smh!

[joesocalif]

If a gurl is feeling very femme on a particular day and somehow finds her over sized clit in her admirers throat how is that supposed to make her admirer gay? Now I could see if we were talking about a mouthful of testicals but even that would be considered being teabagged a perfectly normal straight pastime, kind of relaxing like cool cucumber chips resting in your eye sockets.
We really need to thank these gurls for they are so special. They make to be an ultimate companion. If by some chance you get to hook up with a gurl hold on to her and tell her how special she is.

[backlikeinevaleft]

Very true

[Trapt53]

Now I could see if we were talking about a mouthful of testicals but even that would be considered being teabagged a perfectly normal straight pastime, kind of relaxing like cool cucumber chips resting in your eye sockets.

Since when has a guy having a mouthful of balls ever been considered a perfectly normal straight pastime?

[joesocalif]

When the ball sack is part of a TS Gurls anatomy then it's free sailing into straight waters.

[joesocalif]

969018

Here you go, you can't get any straighter than this.

[joesocalif]

969019969020

Ladyboy balls perfect for tea bagging.

[nysprod]

Here you go, you can't get any straighter than this.

If he was holding it pinky up, then that's gay

[Trapt53]

969018

Here you go, you can't get any straighter than this.

All I see is a guy sucking random balls. Without a shot of the body they belong to, it just seems like gay porn.

[natina]

your dog knows it,YOUR doctor knows it ,your momma knows it

Rentaboy gay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsVpdBIi1BU


You know how I know you're gay!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX0SD_cazhs

YOU ARE VERY GAY !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjAVa9RAfWQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-VLBgt-sYY

Come out the closet already.

[handsumjack]

If you suck cock you are either Gay, BI, or Pan no straight, Enjoy. My best friend is a Cuckold and the first time I was invited to fuck his wife he went first. I had a few beers and forgot that he dropped his load and I wend done on her. I cleaned her up that night and sucked his cock for ten years after that night.

[joesocalif]

This thread implies that the only type of man that a transsexual can ever get intimate with, oral sex, is a gay man. If she marries the guy what is he going to tell her, "No lip service tonight sweetheart, cause I'm not gay".

[Devilboy]

...If she marries the guy what is he going to tell her, "No lip service tonight sweetheart, cause I'm not gay".

Exactly. Followed by "roll over." ;)

[Cocksmith]

969019969020

Ladyboy balls perfect for tea bagging.

Perfect sack. Would love to feel it slap against my chin as she throat fucks me

[THEbottom]

Who cares ??? If you like cock---suck it-----be happy !!!

[xuto]

Do any of you have a feminine side for any cock. There are some amazing porn cocks out there. Yes the Gloryhole is magic. Once it appears and its beautiful. Game over. But the attraction to anyone of anything is key. Enjoy♡♡♡

[jamesedwards]

What the fucking that means?Anyway where we go with this shit stuppid labels?my opinion no where.:pissed:

If a straight guy sucks a homosexuals cock and has high emotions and is in a relationship with this homosexual then he is a homosexual.
he is no longer straight!

If a straight man sucks a Trans-Sexual's cock, he is not a homosexual. Homosexuals and Transgender are two different things.
The straight man likes "THE FEMININITY QUALITIES OF THE TRANS GIRL." He is not into men that looks like him and doesn't have breast, thick thighs, big ass etc. He likes the cock also because he is into with the femininity of the Trans-Girl.

So if a man is attracted to Trans-Girls but not to men that look like him, it's because he likes female qualities of that TGirl. He is not so called gay (homosexual).

[gaysian71]

One thing is certain. If you suck a guys cock or a girls cock. You are a cocksucker for sure.

[gmb]

And just to think, they arrested Lenny just for saying the work back in the day...
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[jamesedwards]

now l agree with gaysian. Thing is l love TGirl cock with a passion

[Lucky foreskin]

The best response I can give is fuck everyone and everything.

Enjoy your life!

I love T-Girls, Crossdresser, and Women. I identify myself as straight, however knowing how people can be closed minded, I just say I'm bisexuals.

But at the end of the day....fuck everyone

[Ts RedVeX]

are you looking for car insurance? https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/brian-the-robot/images/b/b1/Brain_front_small.jpg

[macjay18]

OK, a little bit different to some others but for me the thought of absolutely dominating a TS intrigues me- not because i am a "Dom" but knowing they once lived as a male and are attractive.
The feeling you get dominating another guy Wrestling him to the ground and him knowing you are the Lion or playing sport and say dominating someone on offense and defence ie. basketball, its an amazing feeling.
I probably wouldnt do this but i would be intrigued with fucking the shit out of a dude, its likely that in most instances even with a TS or a dude it would not be a romantic encounter- no kissing or cuddling or foreplay just dominance....showing who is king of the jungle.

[BostonBad]

When I first started sucking, I thought it's just skin and she is hot. Then I realized that I love it. The sound, texture and the payment for good work is a yummy blast of gooey goodness. I wish I could suck ts cock 10 hours per day and get paid for it.

[bluesoul]

OK, a little bit different to some others but for me the thought of absolutely dominating a TS intrigues me- not because i am a "Dom" but knowing they once lived as a male and are attractive.
The feeling you get dominating another guy Wrestling him to the ground and him knowing you are the Lion or playing sport and say dominating someone on offense and defence ie. basketball, its an amazing feeling.
I probably wouldnt do this but i would be intrigued with fucking the shit out of a dude, its likely that in most instances even with a TS or a dude it would not be a romantic encounter- no kissing or cuddling or foreplay just dominance....showing who is king of the jungle.


kinda sounds like you're more into wrestling- which isn't a bad thing btw (if you're 12)

the "showing who is king of the jungle" was a whole new spectrum of cringe. nicely done.

[bluesoul]

When I first started sucking, I thought it's just skin and she is hot. Then I realized that I love it. The sound, texture and the payment for good work is a yummy blast of gooey goodness. I wish I could suck ts cock 10 hours per day and get paid for it.

this is a powerful statement- and a great affirmation as to who you truly are. can you consider making this your signature so possible suiters can see it and know they have a chance to fulfill your needs?

[unamasa]

Gay, straight? Don´t care. I´m a cock sucker and proud.

[jwilliams78]

i love sucking girl cock especially looking up and seeing their boobies above you its so hott

[Cereal Escapist]

i've always said...sucking cock does not make a man gay just as eating pussy does not make a man straight. turn the scenario around and ask...if a f2m transman had you eat his pussy, what does that make you?

1219195

Also, I know a lot of gay men and you know what they like....MEN. None of the gay guys I know want to suck off any of the transwomen I am into because it is not like all they see is dick and nothing but the dick.

So, if sucking a transwoman off makes you question what to call yourself, it also raises the question of what you call your partner.

[Bobbydazzla]

I am straight but if there is a really feminine girl with a MASSIVE big thick cock I will worship it for as long as she wants. Never want to get fucked but just love the contrast of super feminine and super masculine. It's really sexy.

With women I am mega dominant. With ts I am very submissive.

[Cereal Escapist]

I am straight but if there is a really feminine girl with a MASSIVE big thick cock I will worship it for as long as she wants. Never want to get fucked but just love the contrast of super feminine and super masculine. It's really sexy.

With women I am mega dominant. With ts I am very submissive.

I am always dominant. Even when I girl is fucking me in the ass with a strap on or her actual dick, still dominant!!! I have never been one to give up control because its just too much fun.

[Bobbydazzla]

I love worshipping big thick cock and big balls. I love watching them spurt out cum afterwards roo.

[kaientai]

Why worry... I call myself a sexual omnivor or PAN sexual. Just live your life and be happy ( you do not have to tell everyone) but I know it is hard

[CDTSG]

haha
im straight and i have GF
but i love dress ingerie and suck cock on knee .......
so glad being treated as a fem bitch
i dont love man, just like be woman in sex......i still think im straight,why not?

[Robyn]

it took me twenty years to realize the answer to this question is... it just doesn't matter.

[trish]

I have two friends. One's a violinist. The other a fiddler. They play the same instrument.
I have two other friends. One plays the clarinet and the other a soprano sax. Both are woodwinds. Both instruments require almost identical embouchures, and yet there's no single name (that I know of) that applies generally to one who plays one or the other of these woodwinds. Names are unimportant. The important thing is to enjoy your instrument and make it sing.

[bigtrannylover]

haha
im straight and i have GF
but i love dress ingerie and suck cock on knee .......
so glad being treated as a fem bitch
i dont love man, just like be woman in sex......i still think im straight,why not?

You need to face your truth!....
There's NOTHING STRAIGHT about a man who loves to dress in lingerie, suck cock and being treated as a fem bitch.

[Stavros]

I sometimes wonder if the man who dresses up in military fatigues, marches round the city on a weekend holding a battlefield machine gun while shouting slogans, and wants to be treated as an 'American Patriot' is straight. Sounds very queer to me.

[asdolollo]

The answer is pretty simple to me.
Genitalia can't define what you like and love by themself, cause i've always felt attraction to girls as whole since i was 13, not their vagina. Of course i expected them to have a vagina, but what i loved was their hair, eyes, smiles and laughs. I've never ever liked a guy, never wanted to kiss one, never wanted to experiment sex with one.

To me, having sex with a person with male aesthetics would be impossibile, cause i have no attraction to that.

In the same way, a trans girl who is not feminine is a big no for me, i'm just not attracted. A cock per se has no value for me, i actually don't like ts porn with closeup cause if i can't see her face and her aesthetics it doesn't work for me. I've been many times in showers with friends and collagues afetr sport and never felt attraction to their penises... i don't think is as simple as someone tries to put it.

I think about myself as a straight+ male, but i don't care that much about this. Also never wanted to have anal sex, never wanted to suck a dick. I just like the contrast as someon else said :D




i've always said...sucking cock does not make a man gay just as eating pussy does not make a man straight. turn the scenario around and ask...if a f2m transman had you eat his pussy, what does that make you?

1219195

Also, I know a lot of gay men and you know what they like....MEN. None of the gay guys I know want to suck off any of the transwomen I am into because it is not like all they see is dick and nothing but the dick.

So, if sucking a transwoman off makes you question what to call yourself, it also raises the question of what you call your partner.

[CDTSG]

NO.....im STRAIGHT, i only like to do sex as a "female animal"
but thanks your reply, when someone told "Oh you're so inferior , bottom bitch, such my dick, you couldn't be straight...."
it always make me more excitied.
Show you my body hehe.......
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[CDTSG]

You need to face your truth!....
There's NOTHING STRAIGHT about a man who loves to dress in lingerie, suck cock and being treated as a fem bitch.

NO.....im STRAIGHT, i only like to do sex as a "female animal"
but thanks your reply, when someone told "Oh you're so inferior , bottom bitch, such my dick, you couldn't be straight...."
it always make me more excitied.
Show you my body hehe.......

1247615

[shuggiebear]

I've never looked at a man as a man and fancied him. I do however like some guys with just a touch of make up on. Chris Crocker is a classic example. I never fancy him when I see him as a guy but normally it's just a little bit of lipstick and I'm attracted. I think that makes me gay but who cares about labels. I've been with five or six Tgirls now, two of which I've seen the male version of and whilst I wasn't attracted to them as male, I adore their female look. Best sex I've ever had, I much prefer Tgirls now to regular women and my aim is to have as many shemales as the females I've had, so I've still got a few cocks to suck.

[bad2nice]

Be with who you want to be with, forget about putting a label on it.