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jessicamoore
02-12-2013, 07:11 PM
Just curious how many guys actually enjoy post op tgirls
or chicks with dicks
ive talked to alot of guys threw out my living as a female and it mostly the same
they prefer preop tgirls
ive been told not the best vaginal sex with postops
? What do you men prefer
no disrecpect to my sex change tgirls

jessicamoore
02-12-2013, 07:16 PM
you like/

TGasMutiny
02-12-2013, 07:25 PM
I prefer lovely girls with big tits and a beautiful black cock. Just like you Jess! You are perfect baby!

gregorysgirl
02-12-2013, 07:27 PM
Yeah, have a fetish for hung black women too...

Bribi
02-12-2013, 07:36 PM
Definitely pre-op for me.
My attraction for TGirls is for the contrast between the body, the face, the breast which is feminine, and the penis which is masculine.
A TGirl post-op, I'd rather see a girl :)

But that's only my opinion

thefire
02-12-2013, 07:40 PM
I would love your cock deep in my ass, but i prefer putting mine in girl's vagina

Chaos
02-12-2013, 07:56 PM
Pre,post,GG....a girl is a girl to me!

amberskyi
02-12-2013, 08:06 PM
Pre,post,GG....a girl is a girl to me!

Best response.this is the kind of guy i would date.
either you appreciate me as a woman or you don't.if a guy truly valued me as a woman it wouldn't matter if i was pre or post

RallyCola
02-12-2013, 08:18 PM
i'm the type of guy that can reach into a pair of panties and be happy with an "innie" or and "outie" as long as she has a pretty face, banging body and isn't insane...i can work with a little crazy, just not full on bitch

Chaos
02-12-2013, 08:20 PM
Best response.this is the kind of guy i would date.
either you appreciate me as a woman or you don't.if a guy truly valued me as a woman it wouldn't matter if i was pre or post

Aww... Ya Gone an' made me blush. :iagree:

I also lol'd that someone downvoted my statement... :party:

But,yeah,I don't treat girls any different based on the body parts they may or may not have, I just like girls. End O' story.
And I have to agree with Rally there....some crazy is ok,even good.
Full on psycho isn't. I have to deal with those on a daily basis....

RallyCola
02-12-2013, 08:28 PM
Aww... Ya Gone an' made me blush. :iagree:

I also lol'd that someone downvoted my statement... :party:

But,yeah,I don't treat girls any different based on the body parts they may or may not have, I just like girls. End O' story.
And I have to agree with Rally there....some crazy is ok,even good.
Full on psycho isn't. I have to deal with those on a daily basis....

to get along with me, and apparently you, a girl needs to be a little crazy otherwise she couldn't tolerate my BS.

Chaos
02-12-2013, 08:31 PM
But of course...I'm not sane....I wouldn't know what to do with someone that was....

SarinaFan91
02-12-2013, 08:31 PM
you like/

I like very much!

Pretty much what the others said; all woman, but I prefer pre-op cause tbh, I just prefer cock to vagina (personally).

sydburn9
02-12-2013, 08:33 PM
Pre op for me too !

Acron
02-12-2013, 08:36 PM
For a relationship I guess it wouldnt matter. But for one off sex or watching porn, then pre.

MrT23
02-12-2013, 08:38 PM
Never been with a post op girl, wanna try though
If she was hot I and I'm attracted to her it doesn't matter

Prospero
02-12-2013, 09:00 PM
Do I have to choose?

giovanni_hotel
02-12-2013, 09:11 PM
Best response.this is the kind of guy i would date.
either you appreciate me as a woman or you don't.if a guy truly valued me as a woman it wouldn't matter if i was pre or post

I prefer pre op given a choice.

SMH. Some guys like women with big tits, some don't care. Some men like curvy chicks, some prefer coathangers.

Again if guys into preop tgirls ONLY cared about and wanted the dick, there's so many more gay men out here willing to scratch that itch than going on a fool's quest to find the 'right' trans-woman.

IMO a preop tgirl shouldn't be put off because a guy likes the way she's built. For most of us it's never just about the dick.

It it was, why choose a transchick in the first place??
I'm tired of girls assuming just because a guy is attracted to her femininity AND her genitalia, she's being hopelessly objectified.

Little secret, if a female has a phat ass, the MAIN reason I'm talking to her from jump is her booty, and the rest I hope falls into place later on(her looks, personality, intelligence).

That's just how men operate.

On another board I frequent there's a long thread about chicks with huge clits and how much some guys dig them.

http://www.thickbbwforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49437

You think GGs with 1-2 inch clits really feel objectified because their man wants to suck on it until she cums???
If a 'straight' man who's into GGs finds you desirable WITH your penis, IMO as a preop TG you should try to learn to accept it and not question so much if he likes you or your penis.
I like girls with pussy. I like girls with a penis.
I LIKE GIRLS.:fuckin:

Quiet Reflections
02-12-2013, 09:13 PM
As long as a girl is confident and comfortable with who she is then I don't think it matters.

Prospero
02-12-2013, 09:13 PM
Gotta love girls... pre op, post op, gg

amberskyi
02-12-2013, 09:17 PM
I prefer pre op given a choice.

SMH. Some guys like women with big tits, some don't care. Some men like curvy chicks, some prefer coathangers.

Again if guys into preop tgirls ONLY cared about and wanted the dick, there's so many more gay men out here willing to scratch that itch than going on a fool's quest to find the 'right' trans-woman.

IMO a preop tgirl shouldn't be put off because a guy likes the way she's built. For most of us it's never just about the dick.

It it was, why choose a transchick in the first place??
I'm tired of girls assuming just because a guy is attracted to her femininity AND her genitalia, she's being hopelessly objectified.

Little secret, if a female has a phat ass, the MAIN reason I'm talking to her from jump is her booty, and the rest I hope falls into place later on(her looks, personality, intelligence).

That's just how men operate.

On another board I frequent there's a long thread about chicks with huge clits and how much some guys dig them.

http://www.thickbbwforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49437

You think GGs with 1-2 inch clits really feel objectified because their man wants to suck on it until she cums???
If a 'straight' man who's into GGs finds you desirable WITH your penis, IMO as a preop TG you should try to learn to accept it and not question so much if he likes you or your penis.
I like girls with pussy. I like girls with a penis.
I LIKE GIRLS.:fuckin:

Please step off soap box.it's looking a bit worn.
My post had NOTHING to do with feeling objectified.all i said is i want a guy who's interested in me regardless of what genitals i have now or in the future.if that's a problem for you than cool but don't bitch to me about it, I'm not bitching at you dude

giovanni_hotel
02-12-2013, 09:19 PM
Please step off soap box.it's looking a bit worn

Says the girl who ONLY finds a guy attractive who states he just likes women without a preference.:geek:

If you walk this earth as a woman, you're going to be objectified on some level your entire life.
What's new?
And why should it be any different for TS??

Stavros
02-12-2013, 09:22 PM
I don't think it is as simple as making a choice between one and the other. No two human bodies are identical, but I have found that the sex I most enjoy is with women or transexuals with a fuller, voluptuous figure. I even wonder in the case of women, when I used to have sex with them years ago, if I found the act more satisfying with those who had had children. Even with transexuals, the slim and tight body does not provide for me the satisfaction I have found with the fuller figure, someone who has, in a manner of speaking, weight on their hips. But all three of my experiences with post-ops have been a disappointment, penetration did not feel comfortable, and one was with a Malaysian who in all my years remains one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen, but who possessed a cold self-indulgent personality; so on the basis of my experience, I would not knowingly choose to have sexual relations with a post-op. It means some of you could have the best sex ever with a post-op -unless you try it, how can you know?

amberskyi
02-12-2013, 09:24 PM
Says the girl who ONLY finds a guy attractive who states he just likes women without a preference.:geek:

If you walk this earth as a woman, you're going to be objectified on some level your entire life.
What's new?
And why should it be any different for TS??

See above statement where i pointed out that my post had nothing to do with me feeling objectified.
You're arguing with a ghost in your head dude.my name isn't Bella lol

Chaos
02-12-2013, 09:26 PM
That's just how men operate.


No offense, but we do not operate the same....

And I DO have a preference....Beautiful and smart women.. Just because you don't have to be born one isn't the same as no preference.

MrT23
02-12-2013, 09:27 PM
See above statement where i pointed out that my post had nothing to do with me feeling objectified.
You're arguing with a ghost in your head dude.my name isn't Bella lol
Lol, shit is getting contentious on here

giovanni_hotel
02-12-2013, 09:30 PM
No offense, but we do not operate the same....

Yeah you do.
I don't know one man who's ever said he wanted to get with a chick at first because her personality really turned him on.

All men start from the outside and work backwards.
Women do too, to a lesser extent.

SarinaFan91
02-12-2013, 09:49 PM
To be honest, I would sleep with any gender; male, female, pre-op, post-op...and with a relationship, I would rather not be with a guy, but I can easily be with, and love, any kind of woman.

A lot of guys like big breasts on women, some like smaller ones...and on the other hand, a lot of women (and men) prefer guys with bigger dicks...if someone prefers a woman with a penis over one with a vagina then that is honestly just his personal preference.

As I said before, I prefer women, but I also happen to prefer cock, so a pre-op just so happens to be my ideal woman. That said, I have loved and will love women despite them having vaginas, and it wouldn't be any different for a pre-op...otherwise I would have to be gay and/or with a guy if the only thing I cared about was what they have in their trousers!

Chaos
02-12-2013, 10:02 PM
Yeah you do.
I don't know one man who's ever said he wanted to get with a chick at first because her personality really turned him on.

All men start from the outside and work backwards.
Women do too, to a lesser extent.

A face might GET my attention but it's what is inside that is going to make me want her. Trust me....after YEARS of working with drunk,stupid people you don't jump on someone for their looks....
You can be the hottest thing I've ever seen and I'll walk away if I think you're stupid or ignorant...

ZELLGADISS
02-12-2013, 10:20 PM
i prefer preop ts really.
and i prefer bio girls that post op tgirls.

Chaos
02-12-2013, 10:22 PM
I suppose I need proof though...
I'm attracted to Wendy Summers because she likes some of the same things I do....especially comic books.
I'm attracted to Bella because she's intelligent.
I'm attracted to Tempest because she plays the Bass ( I used to) and she's in an awesome Heavy Metal band.
I've dated ugly women with incredible personalities,but never a good looking moron. Just having a pretty face only warrants me looking at you,nothing more.
I have my own standards,and my own way of doing things.

ParadiseLost
02-12-2013, 10:32 PM
I am a post-op ts fan. I look post-ops in this kind of sites and I am very happy to find new post-ops. :-)

lordworm
02-12-2013, 10:41 PM
Pre-op. Post-ops have nothing to offer that genetic women don't already have and better.

Sorry if you find that insulting, but it's my personal opinion and taste. But to me post ops are pointless.

amberskyi
02-12-2013, 10:46 PM
Lmaooooooooooooooo..

RallyCola
02-13-2013, 02:02 AM
http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/00-here-we-go-again-09-12.jpg

Quiet Reflections
02-13-2013, 02:06 AM
I suppose I need proof though...
I'm attracted to Wendy Summers because she likes some of the same things I do....especially comic books.
I'm attracted to Bella because she's intelligent.
I'm attracted to Tempest because she plays the Bass ( I used to) and she's in an awesome Heavy Metal band.
I've dated ugly women with incredible personalities,but never a good looking moron. Just having a pretty face only warrants me looking at you,nothing more.
I have my own standards,and my own way of doing things.
Awesome is a bit strong

fordly66
02-13-2013, 02:19 AM
Post-op women for me! Love them.

ashymon
02-13-2013, 02:22 AM
pre or post, I dont care... I just love beautiful women with the right personality...

MHarrigan82
02-13-2013, 02:50 AM
Pre,post,GG....a girl is a girl to me!

I have the same opinion as you Choas.

sukumvit boy
02-13-2013, 02:56 AM
I prefer mine with the stem on,please.

BellaBellucci
02-14-2013, 09:52 AM
Pre-op. Post-ops have nothing to offer that genetic women don't already have and better.

Sorry if you find that insulting, but it's my personal opinion and taste. But to me post ops are pointless.

'Pointless.'

This is why chasers disgust me. A gentleman doesn't reduce a person to their genitalia.

~BB~

Willie Escalade
02-14-2013, 10:28 AM
Pre,post,GG....a girl is a girl to me!

:iagree:

wiltthestilt
02-14-2013, 11:07 AM
It would depend on the context. For porn or escorts; pre-op for sure. Post-op is not a turn on to me. I would much rather watch or hire a gg than a post-op TS. And I rarely notice post-op performers or escorts anyway so its not much of choice.

As far as dating goes, I suppose it doesnt matter. I dont look for TS's to date and I dont knowingly encounter them in my regular life so it has thus far been a moot point. If I incidentally met someone I really liked I would think more seriously about it then.

FWIW--if I met a girl on one of the dating sites--I wouldnt expect her to tell me beforehand or even by the first date. When I did match a year ago I went out with an unusual number of women 5'9 or above so who knows.

giovanni_hotel
02-14-2013, 12:16 PM
'Pointless.'

This is why chasers disgust me. A gentleman doesn't reduce a person to their genitalia.

~BB~

You do when you're talking about what you like in a person physically.
You don't have a physical preference in men, Bella??

You take all comers, ANY man looks good to you??lol

amberskyi
02-14-2013, 02:30 PM
You do when you're talking about what you like in a person physically.
You don't have a physical preference in men, Bella??

You take all comers, ANY man looks good to you??lol

So your really going to defend the statement that someones existence is pointless lol.

StinkyPete1000
02-14-2013, 02:42 PM
So your really going to defend the statement that someones existence is pointless lol.
I don't think he's defending the pointless part. I think his statement is directed at Bella's statement about gentlemen and liking someone because of their genitalia.

As per usual, Bella is misguided. What about a gentleman that only likes gg's? Is he less of a gentleman because he's not attracted to a TS specifically because she has a penis? According to Bella, he's not a gentleman because he's making a decision based, in part, on genitalia. And in Bella's world, that's not allowed. in Bella's world you have to be attracted to everyone, especially her, but it can't be because you appreciate any of her physical attributes (especially her dick). News flash Bella, it's called sexuality. I don't know what fantasy world Bella lives is but I sure hope she wakes up sometime in the near future.

amberskyi
02-14-2013, 02:45 PM
She's clearly upset by the comment that a post op ts is pointless.it was a very offensive comment and she should be upset, as am i

StinkyPete1000
02-14-2013, 02:55 PM
Trust me, I agree with you on that point. It's not pointless simply because its not important to him. Seriously, I agree 100%. Again, her anger (which, regarding the pointless comment, is perfectly justifiable) should have been directed towards that statement. Instead, she made a generalization that I think was misguided.

StinkyPete1000
02-14-2013, 03:12 PM
I'm just not a huge fan of generalizations and placing people in a box because you learned one little thing about them. You'd think that, given the nature of this site, generalizations would be fairly rare. Unfortunately, it's the exact opposite. We have a group of people who want (and clearly deserve) to be treated with respect. This group also deserves to not be placed in a box. Yet that same group is so quick to generalize and judge others.

I'm supposed to believe that a guy who may or may not be attracted to a person based on his or her genitalia is not a gentleman? I don't think so. We are all entitled to our preferences. For example, if you don't like black guys because they aren't attractive to you, that's absolutely fine. But if you don't like black guys because you think they're all criminals, that's wrong and clearly misguided. If you find a girl attractive and part of that attraction is the penis between her legs, that's fine (especially if she's an escort). Why is that wrong?

Of course, if the dick is all you see and you don't give a shit about the person, then there's a problem. But when you first meet someone all you've got to go by are that person's physical attributes.

ImmerGeil
02-14-2013, 03:42 PM
Best response.this is the kind of guy i would date.
either you appreciate me as a woman or you don't.if a guy truly valued me as a woman it wouldn't matter if i was pre or post


So true if you find someone who you are attracted to, to me it doesn't matter if the person has a big cock,small cock,or has no cock.

It isn't about the genitalia,it's about the whole person,but I have the impression,that a lot of guys here are obsessed with big cocks and pretend to like transsexuals but in realiy they are just afraid to admit that their biggest wish is to suck a huge cock through a gloryhole.

loveatightone
02-14-2013, 04:11 PM
That shouldnt really come into play, if you see someone and your attracted, the looks, the mind, the personality, the rest should not really matter, obviously everyone has a different opinion, but in the end if you like someone you like them..

william.howl
02-14-2013, 05:08 PM
I prefer non-op, in other words, women who have a dick and like their dick.

nysprod
02-14-2013, 05:10 PM
Best response.this is the kind of guy i would date.
either you appreciate me as a woman or you don't.if a guy truly valued me as a woman it wouldn't matter if i was pre or post

OMG you are so utterly deluded it's amazing...this guy has fed you the bullshit you want to hear so that you'll like him...he's CHASING you!

I mean, maybe not for sex...maybe he lives 3000 miles from you and has no intention of meeting...if that was the case he's chasing your mind, like he wants your approval.

ALL MEN CHASE...IT'S WHAT WE DO...WE'RE ALL CHASING SOMETHING, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHAT.

amberskyi
02-14-2013, 05:13 PM
*pow* negativity deflector activated (said in super hero voice)

nysprod
02-14-2013, 05:20 PM
*pow* negativity deflector activated (said in super hero voice)

It's not negativity...it's reality...realty is hard to deal with and most people avoid it but that doesn't change anything.

giovanni_hotel
02-14-2013, 05:23 PM
So true if you find someone who you are attracted to, to me it doesn't matter if the person has a big cock,small cock,or has no cock.

It isn't about the genitalia,it's about the whole person,but I have the impression,that a lot of guys here are obsessed with big cocks and pretend to like transsexuals but in realiy they are just afraid to admit that their biggest wish is to suck a huge cock through a gloryhole.

You really think the majority of guys into TS are just chasing after cock in a more suitable feminine packaging??
I understand how certain threads might make you think this, but most guys into TS on HA.....DON'T POST.
If they were just into looking at cock, why the fuck come here??

The phenomenon of 'straight' or bi guys genuinely into preop TS women is very real, and it's not just about the parts between her legs.
In fact I bet there's a very high percentage of guys here who would be willing to date a preop TS, assuming she was physically attractive to them and their personalities meshed.

Sometimes the ladies around here seem almost as obsessed about their genitalia as the so-called chasers are.

nysprod
02-14-2013, 05:29 PM
Best response.this is the kind of guy i would date.
either you appreciate me as a woman or you don't.if a guy truly valued me as a woman it wouldn't matter if i was pre or post

Yes, and here's my thinking:

Either you appreciate me as a man or you don't. If a woman truly valued me as a man it wouldn't matter if i was rich or poor.

How ridiculous does this sound...ain't no hot girls going with broke guys.

nysprod
02-14-2013, 05:36 PM
That shouldnt really come into play, if you see someone and your attracted, the looks, the mind, the personality, the rest should not really matter, obviously everyone has a different opinion, but in the end if you like someone you like them..

Spoken like a guy who hasn't had a date in like forever...if nothing matters, wtf do you like about them??

RallyCola
02-14-2013, 06:46 PM
i will just add something here...i am a true pessimist and i believe very little that someone says to be about why they make the choices they do because most people rationalize their choices to themselves before they ever verbalize them to others.

so...from that starting condition...when you purposefully single out a "type" of person to pursue, you are clearly doing so because of a preference for something that sets them apart from the larger group. you could like blondes, you could like buddhists or you could like transwomen. They are all subsets of a larger whole that you choose to segregate for any number of reasons. the point is that you are in fact segregating.

To address amber's point about being appreciated as a woman regardless of op status...i would like to know how many successful relationships you have had with men that had absolutely no idea about your transition before you met them vs how many successful relationships you have had with men that sought you out with the pre-existing knowledge that you are in transition?

Chiba5
02-14-2013, 09:39 PM
I like both Pre-ops and Post-ops, if I had my own gf that's a pre-op that wants a SRS from Supporn and she doesn't have enough money or insurance to pay for that surgery I would pay for it and wait for the right time to propose to her even after her SRS from Supporn

Rusty Eldora
02-14-2013, 11:28 PM
I did an interesting test on myself earlier this week. I went to Tgirl Tuesday at Hamburger Mary's Long Beach. There were hot Tgirls, Tgirls with body types that looked fem, Tgirls that may have been former football players, TV's, some lesbians, and some cross dressers. I'll leave out the guys, chasers, and those that just came in for a beer.

I talked with several TV's and cross dressers, in doing so I realized I was thinking "please don't try and pick me up" and zero desire to even touch them. I was really attracted to the Tgirls, even some of the football girls. The nice looking Tgirl I was dancing with I did take home.

In my hobby & civilian life I do have a pretty broad spectrum of girls I find attractive, many female friends, and women I am currently with or have been in relationships with. Compared to a GG, a pre-op would have a +factor for me because being topped feels great. A post op would be a neutral or -factor, mostly because the potential for some added emotional baggage that probably wouldn't be with a GG.

To GG's I strongly encourage them not to get breast implants as natural A's are typically better than plastic DD's in bed. I am more neutral with Tgirls on breast implants as it really helps the aura of female. However, the risks of SRS to me seem outweigh the benefits to my prospective partner.

Chaos
02-14-2013, 11:47 PM
OMG you are so utterly deluded it's amazing...this guy has fed you the bullshit you want to hear so that you'll like him...he's CHASING you!

I mean, maybe not for sex...maybe he lives 3000 miles from you and has no intention of meeting...if that was the case he's chasing your mind, like he wants your approval.

ALL MEN CHASE...IT'S WHAT WE DO...WE'RE ALL CHASING SOMETHING, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF WHAT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm telling Amber what she wants to hear?
When have I ever said I wanted her? (No offense Amber)
I don't need anyones approval. I'm 100% FINE with my view,no one needs to tell me it's ok.
I've BEEN saying that pre,post,and GG don't matter since DAY ONE,and not just day one here.

RallyCola
02-14-2013, 11:49 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm telling Amber what she wants to hear?
When have I ever said I wanted her? (No offense Amber)
I don't need anyones approval. I'm 100% FINE with my view,no one needs to tell me it's ok.
I've BEEN saying that pre,post,and GG don't matter since DAY ONE,and not just day one here.

careful...your mask of being a nice fencesitter is starting to slip.

amberskyi
02-15-2013, 12:32 AM
Yes, and here's my thinking:

Either you appreciate me as a man or you don't. If a woman truly valued me as a man it wouldn't matter if i was rich or poor.

How ridiculous does this sound...ain't no hot girls going with broke guys.

I actually don't give a fuck about money.out of my the exs none of them were rich or even upper middle class.just your regular blue collar, working class, breaking their damn back type.

LongTom101
02-15-2013, 01:10 AM
Pre op always

For me post op defeats the object and I may as well go for a GG

irvin66
02-15-2013, 03:21 AM
Definitely pre-op!!!:)

littletwink
02-15-2013, 03:24 AM
I prefer non-op, in other words, women who have a dick and like their dick.

I didn't even realize that non-op was a real distinction until very recently, but there's no question that this group is my personal preference for the very reason you stated.

nysprod
02-15-2013, 03:29 AM
I actually don't give a fuck about money.out of my the exs none of them were rich or even upper middle class.just your regular blue collar, working class, breaking their damn back type.

Ain't getting no hot women without the benjies...exception maybe is like if you're a teen and everyone is from around the way but even then, you gotta be rich in coolness or whatever to get the real hotties.

Chaos
02-15-2013, 03:54 AM
The mask was never important,everyone can see my face anyway....

Willie Escalade
02-15-2013, 06:08 AM
I did an interesting test on myself earlier this week. I went to Tgirl Tuesday at Hamburger Mary's Long Beach. There were hot Tgirls, Tgirls with body types that looked fem, Tgirls that may have been former football players, TV's, some lesbians, and some cross dressers. I'll leave out the guys, chasers, and those that just came in for a beer.

I talked with several TV's and cross dressers, in doing so I realized I was thinking "please don't try and pick me up" and zero desire to even touch them. I was really attracted to the Tgirls, even some of the football girls. The nice looking Tgirl I was dancing with I did take home.

In my hobby & civilian life I do have a pretty broad spectrum of girls I find attractive, many female friends, and women I am currently with or have been in relationships with. Compared to a GG, a pre-op would have a +factor for me because being topped feels great. A post op would be a neutral or -factor, mostly because the potential for some added emotional baggage that probably wouldn't be with a GG.

To GG's I strongly encourage them not to get breast implants as natural A's are typically better than plastic DD's in bed. I am more neutral with Tgirls on breast implants as it really helps the aura of female. However, the risks of SRS to me seem outweigh the benefits to my prospective partner.
You need to head to Cobra tonight...trust me on that...

zimm66
02-15-2013, 07:02 AM
Doesn't really matter to me. As long as they have a good head on their shoulders and a good attitude.

stallion79
02-15-2013, 07:03 AM
I prefer the part between the legs to be intact on a t-girl, though I've never had the pleasure of trying out a postie.

robertlouis
02-15-2013, 08:05 AM
I prefer the part between the legs to be intact on a t-girl, though I've never had the pleasure of trying out a postie.

Thought you ought to know that on this side of the Atlantic a postie is what you call a mailman..... :ignore:

robertlouis
02-15-2013, 08:07 AM
Doesn't really matter to me. As long as they have a good head on their shoulders and a good attitude.

:iagree:. Although I will always go for girls who are feminine in every respect; the size of a girl's dick or indeed if she has one at all isn't as important as the basic chemistry.

BellaBellucci
02-16-2013, 04:53 AM
According to Bella, he's not a gentleman because he's making a decision based, in part, on genitalia. And in Bella's world, that's not allowed. in Bella's world you have to be attracted to everyone, especially her, but it can't be because you appreciate any of her physical attributes (especially her dick). News flash Bella, it's called sexuality. I don't know what fantasy world Bella lives is but I sure hope she wakes up sometime in the near future.

You're an idiot. We're on a message board in which my words are right there for anybody to read and yet you try to manipulate them anyway? If you're with someone specifically because you like their genitals, regardless of which they are, you are too shallow to deserve a relationship with anybody who isn't at least as shallow as you are. And a true gentleman is never shallow.

Your supposed intellect on the other hand...

~BB~

BellaBellucci
02-16-2013, 04:56 AM
Trust me, I agree with you on that point. It's not pointless simply because its not important to him. Seriously, I agree 100%. Again, her anger (which, regarding the pointless comment, is perfectly justifiable) should have been directed towards that statement. Instead, she made a generalization that I think was misguided.

I'm not 'angry' about the statement, but I did call it out. Everyone who disagrees with you (or anybody else here) is not 'angry.' Everything doesn't have to be a fight. Some of us can have civil, logical debate. Believe me, you lack the importance to make anger worthwhile anyway. :geek:

That said, you're still an idiot. I'm not angry with you, though; instead, I pity you.

~BB~

Ben
02-16-2013, 05:30 AM
Just curious how many guys actually enjoy post op tgirls
or chicks with dicks
ive talked to alot of guys threw out my living as a female and it mostly the same
they prefer preop tgirls
ive been told not the best vaginal sex with postops
? What do you men prefer
no disrecpect to my sex change tgirls

I'm very open to a post-op.... I mean, I find Danielle Foxxx absolutely stunning.

azamet
02-16-2013, 06:23 AM
Sexy girls with a little extra is why we are here!Mmmm Mmm

Chase_Mcthirsty
02-16-2013, 08:14 PM
Non-op.

A confident ts woman who loves her dick and loves guys who love that she loves using it.

So quit arguing with ts jackasses talking that "gentleman" crap to cater to their on inadequacies. The women I speak of are out there which is all that really matters as far as my life and happiness goes.

SarinaFan91
02-16-2013, 09:48 PM
I don't get annoyed with women who are lesbians because they can't see past my gender and give themselves a chance to love me as a person....I accept that they like women physically. Physical attributes do matter, otherwise what is sexual orientation? I like girls, guys, tgirls etc...but that doesn't go for everyone in the world and I'm sure that a lot of guys out there (ie, not on here) would prefer post-op girls because the idea of dick turns them off. But on here, we're all here for a reason...as I said earlier, I prefer dick, but other than that I love women...I feel like that's a bit backwards but while I wouldn't be with someone and marry them just because of something superficial, that's not to say that if I were lucky enough to end up with a TS I wouldn't be happier sexually than if I were with a GG...

BellaBellucci
02-16-2013, 10:04 PM
Non-op.

A confident ts woman who loves her dick

I hope you're not implying only a TS who loves her dick can be confident. I know that's not exactly what you said, but I wanted to clarify. Confidence and love for one's genitals are FAR from mutually exclusive.

~BB~

irateauditor
02-16-2013, 10:22 PM
Jess, depends on what you mean by "enjoy". If it's sex with a pre-op...then Hell Yea! One catch is that I haven't had the pleasure of meeting a post-op. But, if I go by the experiences I've had with a gg to try to gauge it to a post-op then I'd still say pre... No matter what though, if you're in a LTR with someone, it's what's inside that I find attractive more than anything else. I'd "enjoy" that more.

Chase_Mcthirsty
02-17-2013, 01:10 AM
I hope you're not implying only a TS who loves her dick can be confident. I know that's not exactly what you said, but I wanted to clarify. Confidence and love for one's genitals are FAR from mutually exclusive.

~BB~

I made it blatantly clear what I like and what you "hoped" I was or wasn't implying is immaterial.

I don't care how confident you are, I don't care how you feel or what you think about my comment. And me not playing your game isn't an admition to your petty assumptions. It just means that I don't wish to converse with anyone like you whether she's born with a pussy or a dick.

The fact that some of you ts on this site are just as self centered, disrespectful and manipulative as the guys you condemn are just is as equally repulsive.

So do yourself a favor and ignore my post moving forward. It would be my fetish...er I mean pleasure to do the same.

Stay thirsty~

Vic
02-17-2013, 04:30 AM
What's up guys? This post seems somewhat strange in that if guys want post-ops, why shouldn't they chase girls? Aren't post op's basically girls at their points of transition? I like to think that a transsexual is one with a dick, and frankly that turns me on! Now a female with no dick is also good, where I look forward to dominating the pussy; the other world involves sucking dick and busting ass, the 2 don't compare?!? So why is there even a comparison of post-ops to pre-ops; isn't this all about the dicks? It is for me!

Vic

postopadmirer
02-17-2013, 05:25 AM
As my username says postop.

robertlouis
02-17-2013, 06:18 AM
Either, I suppose, but as I'm no size queen and like girls to be as feminine and petite as possible, I really do like post-op girls and prefer girls to take the female role. That can be either passive or aggressive, but I have no desire ever to be topped.

SXFX
02-17-2013, 07:21 AM
hot ones

BellaBellucci
02-17-2013, 01:23 PM
I made it blatantly clear what I like and what you "hoped" I was or wasn't implying is immaterial.

I don't care how confident you are, I don't care how you feel or what you think about my comment. And me not playing your game isn't an admition to your petty assumptions. It just means that I don't wish to converse with anyone like you whether she's born with a pussy or a dick.

The fact that some of you ts on this site are just as self centered, disrespectful and manipulative as the guys you condemn are just is as equally repulsive.

So do yourself a favor and ignore my post moving forward. It would be my fetish...er I mean pleasure to do the same.

Stay thirsty~


I just asked you a question. Overreaction, much? Wooow! :lol:

~BB~

SheWantsTheD
03-31-2013, 03:21 PM
Good to see some fellow pre op lovers around here :)

EvonRose
03-31-2013, 03:53 PM
well it has different perks...

PREOP can def find more men in the sense that your sought after and you are the fantasy of many men. And even form a great relationship with an admirer. And make more money in the sex industry.

POSTOP can stealth much easier, of course you can basically wear anything without worrying... and You would have greater chances forming or being with a "straight" man who likes only pussy and weed out most "chasers".

(Guys don't take offense I'm quoting to make a point)

f-finger
03-31-2013, 04:13 PM
Who says If I prefer preop I must be a cocksucker and/or take it in the ass? I for one have bottomed only once which was an ok experience but not something I need again. I have been with several trannies so far sexually and admit, for me it's a fetish, to bone a chick with a dick. Yet, sucking cock is a turn off for me (but then, I don't enjoy licking pussy that much either).

GiDM
03-31-2013, 04:29 PM
Definitely pre-op for me. I think it's great that some girls go as far as SRS. But, if that was the case then I would stick with GG's. There something special 'bout a girl with her "toy". And that said, I myself prefer a girl that's "functional" too.

But to each his own, and we each should do what makes us truely happy.

tommy001
03-31-2013, 06:38 PM
It's a pre-op girl for me. It's the way my brain is hard wired that i love girls who have a cock. Even a soft or hard one as long as it's there!
There's nothing as beautiful as seeing a sexy pre-op girl in stockings and heels, i get a far better and stronger erection with pre-op than a post op or pussy.

dominoadmirer
03-31-2013, 07:26 PM
Definitely pre-op girls for me. There's nothing quite so sexy as seing a really feminine woman with a eaging hard cock all for your enjoyment

cronus83
03-31-2013, 08:09 PM
I am neutral here. Dated pre op girls as well as GG's. i really don't think post op would make any difference. Im cool either way and have no real preference.

sydburn9
03-31-2013, 08:16 PM
Pre-op for me !

redsweater
03-31-2013, 08:42 PM
I think most guys that like tgirls are more attracted to a girl with a cock than a girl with a pussy, whether she's gg or post op. I'd prefer pre-op myself, and maybe that's a fetish. People have lots of fetishes. If vaginas were more rare, we'd call an attraction to them a fetish. I guess from my perspective, would you rather a guy look at your penis with disgust, or with arousal?

transman
04-01-2013, 03:05 AM
With me, it is definately pre-op ..... I guess it is because I like my women feminine but adore cock! Mix the two together and you have the perfect being!

EvonRose
04-01-2013, 03:15 AM
I am neutral here. Dated pre op girls as well as GG's. i really don't think post op would make any difference. Im cool either way and have no real preference.

I think the way you think is cool...

The other men always compare post op and gg's in ways where fit is a bit offensive.

Making it that much more taboo why many ts don't want to get a srs bec they think they are more accepted by the admirers.... Its kind of sad...

leomonster
04-01-2013, 03:17 AM
pre-op

nysprod
04-01-2013, 04:16 AM
I want a TGirl who is happy with her cock and derives pleasure from it...who doesn't see herself as being any less of a woman just because she has one...

redsweater
04-01-2013, 04:43 AM
I think the way you think is cool...

There's really no way to not sexualize penises or vaginas because they're sex organs. Most men have a preference for pussy. Many here will have a preference for cock. I don't think either is wrong.

I mean, I'd accept and be attracted to either, and I'd of course understand if someone wanted srs for themselves, but I still have a preference for pre op.

timid1
04-01-2013, 10:06 AM
I guess if I'm honest I prefer pre-op. I've not experienced a post-op ( knowingly)
However my favourite t-girl is planning to have an op at some stage. It shocked me a little when we were chatting and she told me of her plans. I'm very fond of her , and will support her in every way I'm able to.

EvonRose
04-01-2013, 10:43 AM
There's really no way to not sexualize penises or vaginas because they're sex organs. Most men have a preference for pussy. Many here will have a preference for cock. I don't think either is wrong.

I mean, I'd accept and be attracted to either, and I'd of course understand if someone wanted srs for themselves, but I still have a preference for pre op.

well no silly i wast saying we can't think of sex organs sexually...

But we can't be immature about them either.

Like I hate when people pry or tell a girl not to get srs because they like her cock better, it is highly offensive and guys don't realize it because they are thinking with their sex organ and at that point makes me just want to kick it...

top4bigbutt
04-01-2013, 04:54 PM
Both !!!!!

Chiba5
04-01-2013, 04:56 PM
I love both pre-ops and post-ops

Prospero
04-01-2013, 05:26 PM
I think it is clear that in purely sexual terms (and really leaving side emotional or other issues) most men here prefer pre-ops girls - even if the men in question are not in the least bit passive. Some are happy with both (I would include myself in this group) and a few very firmly say they prefer girls who are post op.

Miss Sex Appeal
04-01-2013, 08:20 PM
What a stupid question. With all chasers here, of course they'd all prefer pre-ops

f-finger
04-01-2013, 08:42 PM
What a stupid question. With all chasers here, of course they'd all prefer pre-ops

YES, burn those filthy chasers at the stake!

Burn them for their sexuality and what gets them off! Because as we all know, what you find attractive is totally under your own control...

SheWantsTheD
04-02-2013, 12:00 AM
What a stupid question. With all chasers here, of course they'd all prefer pre-ops

:iagree:

bxtoni
04-02-2013, 12:19 AM
I prefer pre-op, as I see no need to cut a perfectly good cock. If a TS is sexy, they're sexy. If God gave you a cock, give him a thumbs up and enjoy it. A good blowjob kicks ass.

STARTUP999
04-03-2013, 08:05 AM
If a girl goes post op and is happy I am happy for her.

But for my own selfish desires I am attracted to well endowed top loving pre-op ladies (implants are optional) actually little budding hormone breasts are my favorite.

Saint_Frankenstein
04-07-2013, 12:08 PM
Non-op. I'm a transsexual guy and I don't ever plan to have genital surgery and I would like to have biological children one day. I am more emotionally attracted to women but I like penises more than pussy. It just works with what I have. However, I am versatile and pussy is cool too.

allday
11-02-2013, 04:36 AM
pre- thats the point

killa69
11-02-2013, 05:28 AM
Never seen a post-op up-close so can't say for certain but looking at different pics of some it didn't turn me on at all. I just love an attractive girl with a pretty pussy or a pretty cock makes no difference to me.

amberskyi
11-02-2013, 06:05 AM
I think it depends on the type of guy your asking. on here obviously the majority would prefer pre op but I know allot of regular straight guys without any previous ts experience or ts attraction would entertain sleeping with a ts if she was post op.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard "let me know when you get your pussy" lol

tranlove
11-02-2013, 06:40 AM
pre...

STARTUP999
11-02-2013, 07:38 AM
If a TG lady completes her journey to being a woman and is finally happy with herself then I am happy for her and wish her the best.

But when it comes to my own selfish desires, I have zero interest in a post op. To me she is "just" a female with a strange looking pussy. I like GG's but I love pre-op TGs. I imagine many girls in transition hate guys like me (I have met a few) but we are the ones who keep the TG porn and escort business alive.

zimm66
11-02-2013, 07:47 AM
I have had good times with both. Attitude is everything.

youngblood61
11-02-2013, 08:52 AM
Pre-op for me.

madsally
11-02-2013, 08:56 AM
Pre for me

cameron47
11-02-2013, 02:38 PM
When you are talking about pre-op versus post-op it is strictly a sexual preference and it's whatever floats your boat. Transgendered ladies that become post-op have to realize that the guys who were attracted to them may no longer be, just like they will find new guys how are now attracted to them because they are physically 100% woman.

mistab
11-02-2013, 02:55 PM
pre-op, post-op, GG- it's all good...and as far as vaginal sex with a post-op woman goes, it's just as hot as with a GG...IMHO...

giovanni_hotel
11-02-2013, 03:12 PM
When you are talking about pre-op versus post-op it is strictly a sexual preference and it's whatever floats your boat. Transgendered ladies that become post-op have to realize that the guys who were attracted to them may no longer be, just like they will find new guys how are now attracted to them because they are physically 100% woman.

^^^This.

There are guys out there who would never be down with a preop girl, but would be open to being with a postop woman.

It's just a different group of guys.

I wonder, how soon does a postop girl tell a guy her background??

LongTom101
11-02-2013, 09:40 PM
I'm only sexually interested in GGs and TGirls (with a generally stronger and more frequent attraction towards GGs than TGirls), and have only ever had real life (non paying) long term relationships with GGs

As far as practical reality goes am pretty sure I'll only ever have intimate encounters with Tgirls on a punter/escort basis, but not particularly out of choice. I'm far more likely to encounter and form relationships with GGs than with TGirls because in everyday life and in terms of numbers, I'm far more likely to encounter, socialize with and interact with GGs than with TGirls.

All that being said, as a punter I'll either want to punt with a preop TGirl escort or a GG escort

I have no real sexual interest in postop TGirls at all, to me it totally defeats the object, because given the choice I'd far rather choose a GG with a genuine vagina and large natural breasts than a TGirl with a surgically crafted vagina and silicone implants.

islandmix
11-02-2013, 11:43 PM
Anybody here fuck a post-op? Did it feel anything like a vagina?

xmattuk
11-02-2013, 11:48 PM
For what it's worth, I prefer pre-op :-)

Jimmy W
11-03-2013, 01:02 AM
Preeeeeee for Meeeeeeee

Vladimir Putin
11-03-2013, 03:17 AM
Pre-op.

saifan
11-03-2013, 03:27 AM
Anybody here fuck a post-op? Did it feel anything like a vagina?

Yes... I've been with 2 post-op women. The 1st it took me a few minutes to believe that she wasn't a GG. Felt great, just like a pussy. The 2nd wasn't as good.

austrannyfan
11-03-2013, 04:38 AM
Pre Op for me. I love that surprise in their panties!

asianphoenixx
11-03-2013, 05:48 AM
When you are talking about pre-op versus post-op it is strictly a sexual preference and it's whatever floats your boat. Transgendered ladies that become post-op have to realize that the guys who were attracted to them may no longer be, just like they will find new guys how are now attracted to them because they are physically 100% woman.

there are some truth in it but not quite...

Most men who love tgirl also love women. as a matter of fact, 90% of men love women, and only probably 10% of men who love exclusively tgirl.

When a tgirl is a passable and feminine and like to get fucked, I personally think she should be a post op, unless if she is happy the way she is.

Her life will be much happier and fulfilled since she will open more doors for herself if she becomes a post op

The problem is, some of us, think that even though we already become a post op, we are still not quite "complete" compared to cis women.

It's not true. Some studies have proven that a neovagina, or man-made vagina is tighter than the "natural" one.
So not only, the vagina is tighter, the post op tgirls who have undergone surgery, also can enjoy orgasm, both from clit and vagina.

There are much more plus than minus. I cant wait to become a post op just for those reasons, not to mention those 90% of men...hemmmm :dancing:

The only challenge is: to convince straight men that we are not "less" than cis women.

I love challenges!

I will keep my name, Tia Phoenixx as a post op escort, if I decide to continue working in this profession. Wait another 2 or 3 years...cant wait!:fuckin:

asianphoenixx
11-03-2013, 06:08 AM
So true if you find someone who you are attracted to, to me it doesn't matter if the person has a big cock,small cock,or has no cock.

It isn't about the genitalia,it's about the whole person,but I have the impression,that a lot of guys here are obsessed with big cocks and pretend to like transsexuals but in realiy they are just afraid to admit that their biggest wish is to suck a huge cock through a gloryhole.

LOL that's why this forums is for.
But why ladyboys are among the most popular ones then? They don;t have big penis.
Are all men cock suckers?

Of course not, but unfortunately those minority are very "vocal"

nysprod
11-03-2013, 06:54 AM
LOL that's why this forums is for.
But why ladyboys are among the most popular ones then? They don;t have big penis.
Are all men cock suckers?

Of course not, but unfortunately those minority are very "vocal"

Fyi, every man on this forum, top, bottom or both, size queen or not, and in fact every man who wants to be with a trans woman, wants to perform oral sex on her.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that most trans women, though they like it when it's happening, don't want a man as a partner who wants to do it.

The ideal dream man for a trans women is one who never has been with one, and she wants to meet him like by accident...she wants the man to have no idea she's trans when they meet and the ultimate dream is that when she reveals herself, that he will except her for who she is and love her anyway.

Unfortunately, this is just a dream for the vast majority of girls...the reality is that there is an very high probability this man will reject her once the truth comes out...or worse, especially if they've had any sort of physical contact.

But this leads me to what I call the transsexual dichotomy, which I'll discuss if anyone is interested.

asianphoenixx
11-04-2013, 06:07 AM
Fyi, every man on this forum, top, bottom or both, size queen or not, and in fact every man who wants to be with a trans woman, wants to perform oral sex on her.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that most trans women, though they like it when it's happening, don't want a man as a partner who wants to do it.

The ideal dream man for a trans women is one who never has been with one, and she wants to meet him like by accident...she wants the man to have no idea she's trans when they meet and the ultimate dream is that when she reveals herself, that he will except her for who she is and love her anyway.

Unfortunately, this is just a dream for the vast majority of girls...the reality is that there is an very high probability this man will reject her once the truth comes out...or worse, especially if they've had any sort of physical contact.

But this leads me to what I call the transsexual dichotomy, which I'll discuss if anyone is interested.


that;s not me for sure.

Ideally, I like men who know that I'm not a cis woman, but most of them are so naive...so i get to the point of getting tired of explaining that I am not a "real" woman and finally give up...and decide to be a post op...someday..if that what they really want me to be.

The easiest thing, of course being a tgirl escort, because those who come to see us, know our status...but those men outside...I mean literally 90% of them do not know or unsure.

complicated :hide-1:

nysprod
11-04-2013, 07:59 AM
that;s not me for sure.

Ideally, I like men who know that I'm not a cis woman, but most of them are so naive...so i get to the point of getting tired of explaining that I am not a "real" woman and finally give up...and decide to be a post op...someday..if that what they really want me to be.

The easiest thing, of course being a tgirl escort, because those who come to see us, know our status...but those men outside...I mean literally 90% of them do not know or unsure.

complicated :hide-1:

I should have worded this differently...when I said "the ideal dream man for a trans women is one who never has been with one" the point I was trying to make was that trans women dream of meeting a man who has never been with any...because if he has, if he has experience with trans women and is actively seeking one, she labels him a chaser, which is the last thing that she wants.

My other point about every man who who is into trans women wanting to perform oral sex on them still stands, so in answer to your question about all men being cocksuckers the answer is yes, absolutely.

LilyRox
11-04-2013, 07:59 AM
I think it would be harder to find a partner being a post op girl verses a preop girl. Most guys who would consider dating a tgirl tend to lean towards preop and typical guys dating cis girls aren't accepting of a sex change (at least dating them). The guy's who accept post op girls most likely also accept cis girls so I don't know how post op girls compete with cis girls, truth is they probably can't. I imagine it would be very lonely after becoming post op, which a lot of girls really don't put into consideration.

asianphoenixx
11-04-2013, 08:45 AM
I think it would be harder to find a partner being a post op girl verses a preop girl. Most guys who would consider dating a tgirl tend to lean towards preop and typical guys dating cis girls aren't accepting of a sex change (at least dating them). The guy's who accept post op girls most likely also accept cis girls so I don't know how post op girls compete with cis girls, truth is they probably can't. I imagine it would be very lonely after becoming post op, which a lot of girls really don't put into consideration.

it all depends on each girl and each cases.
yes, i agree if you are 6'5 and have big bones structure, it's better of to be a tgirl, actually, it's better off to be a man, excuse me for being blunt, especially if you still like to fuck a girl.

I'm a slut professionally and in my personal life. I simply love sex and need lots of it. I have experienced hundreds...err..maybe thousands of men who fuck me and never touch or pay attention in my dick. Some of them jokingly said: if you have a pussy, i will marry you.

I met a popular tgirl in South Africa few months ago and we agreed to hang out together. She is an attractive tgirl but people can tell she is a tgirl.

It's so interesting to observe men who approached us. We both have our own admirers..just different type of men. Those who approached her, definitely love tgirls. Those who approached me can be both, more straight believe it or not, simply because more straight men outthere.

I remember she pointed at one man who stared at her and said: "look at him Tia, this man wants to suck my dick."
I looked at that man she pointed at, and she might be right. That guy looked like a cock sucker

On the contrary, most men who approach me in the western world do not have a clue, unless they are experienced, so at the end, some of them, including myself will be disappointed, simply because i have a "wrong" genital

If i have a pussy, most problem will be solved. Can't wait:dancing:

asianphoenixx
11-04-2013, 08:46 AM
I should have worded this differently...when I said "the ideal dream man for a trans women is one who never has been with one" the point I was trying to make was that trans women dream of meeting a man who has never been with any...because if he has, if he has experience with trans women and is actively seeking one, she labels him a chaser, which is the last thing that she wants.

My other point about every man who who is into trans women wanting to perform oral sex on them still stands, so in answer to your question about all men being cocksuckers the answer is yes, absolutely.

i'm lost. but anyway..here we are on hung angels. I'm still here, but hopefully will not be forever lol

Prospero
11-04-2013, 08:48 AM
Tia... you said "that man looked like a cock sucker'. That is interesting. As you've met ... thousands... what exactly distinguishes a man who looks like a cock sucker?

asianphoenixx
11-04-2013, 09:04 AM
Tia... you said "that man looked like a cock sucker'. That is interesting. As you've met ... thousands... what exactly distinguishes a man who looks like a cock sucker?

it;s hard to describe...you have to have a certain mileages in order to be able to sense that.

It's almost like a "gaydar", where you can differentiate those who are straight and those who are gay, or those who are bi.

Most of the time, i'm right, but in few cases, I have to admit, it's rather hard to tell.

FunAllDay
11-04-2013, 09:30 AM
doesnt matter to me honestly. as long as i find you attractive and connect post pre or gg is not the determining factor.

amberskyi
11-04-2013, 04:16 PM
I should have worded this differently...when I said "the ideal dream man for a trans women is one who never has been with one" the point I was trying to make was that trans women dream of meeting a man who has never been with any...because if he has, if he has experience with trans women and is actively seeking one, she labels him a chaser, which is the last thing that she wants.

My other point about every man who who is into trans women wanting to perform oral sex on them still stands, so in answer to your question about all men being cocksuckers the answer is yes, absolutely.

"doesnt matter to me honestly. as long as i find you attractive and connect post pre or gg is not the determining factor."

no hun this is the idea man for a ts woman.someone who sees and treats us as woman regardless of what genitals we were born with or end up with.

amberskyi
11-04-2013, 04:23 PM
I think it would be harder to find a partner being a post op girl verses a preop girl. Most guys who would consider dating a tgirl tend to lean towards preop and typical guys dating cis girls aren't accepting of a sex change (at least dating them). The guy's who accept post op girls most likely also accept cis girls so I don't know how post op girls compete with cis girls, truth is they probably can't. I imagine it would be very lonely after becoming post op, which a lot of girls really don't put into consideration.

I think just the opposite.I find that more guys would entertain a post op ts girl than the guys who are pre op attracted.
this idea about woman competing with eachother is why so many woman are single and unhappy.we focus on the wrong things thinking that's what men care about when picking a partner.you've never seen a man who's wife is "ugly" or she's barren and wonder what it is he sees in her? she's probably a freaking awesome person.as long as your a cool person theres always going to be someone attracted to you.

nysprod
11-04-2013, 05:39 PM
no hun this is the idea man for a ts woman.someone who sees and treats us as woman regardless of what genitals we were born with or end up with.

Yes, of course that's what you want...what I'm saying is that the probability of meeting a guy who has never thought about (much less been with) a trans girl who's going to have the ability to do that is low...he's not gonna have any understanding about the tg experience and he's gonna have too many of his own issues to deal with...the other guy, the more experienced one, is more likely to have an understanding of the issues...and of himself.

asianphoenixx
11-04-2013, 05:42 PM
doesnt matter to me honestly. as long as i find you attractive and connect post pre or gg is not the determining factor.

happy ending.
Society gradually has changed. More and more straight men accept, at least, tolerate us for being a tgirl.

It's been 2 years, i have not been "rejected" by even one straight studs, when I said: "do you want to come to my bed hon, but I have a secret i will tell you later in my bed."

"What's the secret Tia"

"come to my bed first and get naked, let me look at you awesome body and suck you big lollipop first."

And boom, after i sucked their dick and enjoy exploring their body..I told them my "secret". At this point, it does not really matter whether we are going to continue to have sex or not since i had already molested them lol.

Naughty me. The good thing is, I'm experienced. I can tell which ones who will accept and which ones who will not. You have to sense their aggression level at this point, if their aggression level is high, it's better not to try.

those straight men still fuck me even after I told them i am a tgirl. Unfortunately the sex is awkward and not optimal, thus i think it's better off for me personally to become a post op

Besides, as I mentioned previously, neo-vagina is tighter than the natural ones, and yes..we still can achieve orgasm. hemm...

Last but not least, even sexually speaking, i'm not afraid of competing with cis women, even with the attractive ones.

there are lots of occasions men prefer and approach me over them.
I don't know why...maybe what they call it "sex appeal" and "charm"??:)

nysprod
11-04-2013, 05:54 PM
happy ending.
Society gradually has changed. More and more straight men accept, at least, tolerate us for being a tgirl.

It's been 2 years, i have not been "rejected" by even one straight studs, when I said: "do you want to come to my bed hon, but I have a secret i will tell you later in my bed."

"What's the secret Tia"

"come to my bed first and get naked, let me look at you awesome body and suck you big lollipop first."

And boom, after i sucked their dick and enjoy exploring their body..I told them my "secret". At this point, it does not really matter whether we are going to continue to have sex or not since i had already molested them lol.

Naughty me. The good thing is, I'm experienced. I can tell which ones who will accept and which ones who will not. You have to sense their aggression level at this point, if their aggression level is high, it's better not to try.




This is like playing Russian Roulette...your choice...good luck hun.

asianphoenixx
11-04-2013, 06:12 PM
This is like playing Russian Roulette...your choice...good luck hun.

thanks.

It will not be soon though, the earliest is 3 years from now.

My dick still makes lots of money, so i still keep it for the time being LOL :)

Tia Phoenixx
www.tia-phoenixx.com

amberskyi
11-04-2013, 06:15 PM
Yes, of course that's what you want...what I'm saying is that the probability of meeting a guy who has never thought about (much less been with) a trans girl who's going to have the ability to do that is low...he's not gonna have any understanding about the tg experience and he's gonna have too many of his own issues to deal with...the other guy, the more experienced one, is more likely to have an understanding of the issues...and of himself.

I dont care if a man has experience with ts woman or not.just accept me dick or no dick.
I just cant stand men who act like ts woman are worthless if they arent packing smh and im sure most ts girls feel the same as I do.

simonisthebest
11-04-2013, 08:51 PM
we talkin about sex for one date or in a full relationship ? its very different

a guy will fuck a pre-op just for the hell of it,but probably be ashamed afterwards cause of the dick she had "maybe im gay" & stuff like that , we know the story !!!

personally for a "relationship" if i feel like she's extremely feminine & soft like Amberskyi or hazel tucker,sarina valentina...i really dont care period..its all depend on the way she act ,some of theses TS looking really manly ,had big cock...i cant imagine a straight guy ready to spend his "life" with some of theses , i mean yall (ts) are thinkin about findin love im right ?...

& i dont care about that cock,the way she act will make me forgive she had one

tsadriana
11-04-2013, 08:58 PM
I dont care if a man has experience with ts woman or not.just accept me dick or no dick.
I just cant stand men who act like ts woman are worthless if they arent packing smh and im sure most ts girls feel the same as I do.
I do ...You has spoken for me to :mad:xx

nysprod
11-04-2013, 09:10 PM
May we all find whatever it is we're looking for.

smithken
11-04-2013, 09:14 PM
As a man with a small package I find it easier being with a ts than an actual gg

buck
11-04-2013, 09:17 PM
You look hot girl!
Pre-op is my preference...

giovanni_hotel
11-04-2013, 09:18 PM
I hate these convos because inevitably no two tgirls want the same thing out of a man.
One girl may be offended if a man doesn't go down on her, but she's still expected to blow him, while another girl believes it's the height of unmanly faggotry for a man to blow a TS.

Lusting after tgirls IRL is some tricky shit.

Just give me a preop who doesn't have a hate/hate relationship with here genitals and I'm good.

smithken
11-04-2013, 09:19 PM
I dont care if a man has experience with ts woman or not.just accept me dick or no dick.
I just cant stand men who act like ts woman are worthless if they arent packing smh and im sure most ts girls feel the same as I do.



Ummmmm that doesn't happen to men?

Rusty Eldora
11-07-2013, 09:47 PM
Tia's secret is that she is a fantastic woman that happens to be a Tgirl. She brings it all. She is also quite happy with her dick and it brings lots of pleasure to her and others. I hope she keeps it for a long, long time but it is her choice only to decide when to change.

Society is changing but it will be slow. Lot at the acceptance of pot, it took nearly 50 years from its first major appearance to where it is becoming legal in some states. I would venture that less than 5% of guys have touched another cock even once, and less than 1% have been intimate with a tgirl.

I'm an older guy that needs something better than Viagra, GG's I know, in particular Chinese ones I can perform fine with. New GG's it is hit and miss. The wonderful flip in roles with a Tgirl brings me incredible pleasure and it is really a day at the spa. So I have a strong preference for Pre Op over GG. I don't that would happen with a post op.

I think with the right Tgirl I could settle down happily, not just one-night stands.


happy ending.
Society gradually has changed. More and more straight men accept, at least, tolerate us for being a tgirl.

It's been 2 years, i have not been "rejected" by even one straight studs, when I said: "do you want to come to my bed hon, but I have a secret i will tell you later in my bed."

"What's the secret Tia"

"come to my bed first and get naked, let me look at you awesome body and suck you big lollipop first."

And boom, after i sucked their dick and enjoy exploring their body..I told them my "secret". At this point, it does not really matter whether we are going to continue to have sex or not since i had already molested them lol.

Naughty me. The good thing is, I'm experienced. I can tell which ones who will accept and which ones who will not. You have to sense their aggression level at this point, if their aggression level is high, it's better not to try.

those straight men still fuck me even after I told them i am a tgirl. Unfortunately the sex is awkward and not optimal, thus i think it's better off for me personally to become a post op

Besides, as I mentioned previously, neo-vagina is tighter than the natural ones, and yes..we still can achieve orgasm. hemm...

Last but not least, even sexually speaking, i'm not afraid of competing with cis women, even with the attractive ones.

there are lots of occasions men prefer and approach me over them.
I don't know why...maybe what they call it "sex appeal" and "charm"??:)


thanks.

It will not be soon though, the earliest is 3 years from now.

My dick still makes lots of money, so i still keep it for the time being LOL

Tia Phoenixx

asianphoenixx
11-10-2013, 04:50 AM
Tia's secret is that she is a fantastic woman that happens to be a Tgirl. She brings it all. She is also quite happy with her dick and it brings lots of pleasure to her and others. I hope she keeps it for a long, long time but it is her choice only to decide when to change.

Society is changing but it will be slow. Lot at the acceptance of pot, it took nearly 50 years from its first major appearance to where it is becoming legal in some states. I would venture that less than 5% of guys have touched another cock even once, and less than 1% have been intimate with a tgirl.

I'm an older guy that needs something better than Viagra, GG's I know, in particular Chinese ones I can perform fine with. New GG's it is hit and miss. The wonderful flip in roles with a Tgirl brings me incredible pleasure and it is really a day at the spa. So I have a strong preference for Pre Op over GG. I don't that would happen with a post op.

I think with the right Tgirl I could settle down happily, not just one-night stands.

I'm sure, you deserve it hon. You are pretty caring person

tsselenalopez
03-22-2016, 10:20 AM
This question would be awesome if it was directed towards a website where most of the guys were actually serious about dating but about 95% of these guys just want the dick. And do whateva they can to fulfill that urge of the Dick going up they Azz... Specially these dick hungry men up in north Dallas.... I don't think you even have a pretty face any more.

asianphoenixx
06-26-2016, 03:42 AM
Tia's secret is that she is a fantastic woman that happens to be a Tgirl. She brings it all. She is also quite happy with her dick and it brings lots of pleasure to her and others. I hope she keeps it for a long, long time but it is her choice only to decide when to change.

Society is changing but it will be slow. Lot at the acceptance of pot, it took nearly 50 years from its first major appearance to where it is becoming legal in some states. I would venture that less than 5% of guys have touched another cock even once, and less than 1% have been intimate with a tgirl.

I'm an older guy that needs something better than Viagra, GG's I know, in particular Chinese ones I can perform fine with. New GG's it is hit and miss. The wonderful flip in roles with a Tgirl brings me incredible pleasure and it is really a day at the spa. So I have a strong preference for Pre Op over GG. I don't that would happen with a post op.

I think with the right Tgirl I could settle down happily, not just one-night stands.

Thanks Rusty.... are you still around?

Well, I couldn't believe it I said this 3 years ago and here I am as a sexy post op, most boys don't know though. And I personally doesn't have any pressure to tell them soon, unless they ask.

It's my past.

And believe me, sexually speaking, post op, if she is pretty and passable, has much more power to seduce men in general

I have been post op for 4 months and I have slept with those gorgeous studs whom I couldn't imagine sleeping with daily... yes daily lol

Can't be more happier.

Btw, I can reach multiple orgasms too.

Life is good

😃

Cheers

Tia Phoenixx

Chaos
06-26-2016, 07:36 AM
This question would be awesome if it was directed towards a website where most of the guys were actually serious about dating but about 95% of these guys just want the dick. And do whateva they can to fulfill that urge of the Dick going up they Azz... Specially these dick hungry men up in north Dallas.... I don't think you even have a pretty face any more.
I love that you're crying and catty over a post made 3 YEARS ago.....SO damn petty. Ever think that if you stop jumping on guys that want dick you might meet guys that don't? I really don't give a damn what's between your legs...if YOU are uninteresting you can have a bear trap for all I care...If I DO find you interesting enough,it still doesn't matter,because it has to be mutual....and if it's mutual neither one of us is going to care because we're going to do whatever we're BOTH comfortable with....
You come off as one seriously angry little kid....get the stick out of your ass,get comfortable with yourself,and stop letting yourself ONLY be a fetish,otherwise ain't nobody can do shit for you but keep you where you're at...