truthers;Grandfather who comforted Sandy Hook Elementary kids says 'truthers' are ta

[natina]

Grandfather who comforted Sandy Hook Elementary kids says 'truthers' are targeting him
Retired psychologist Gene Rosen was hailed as a hero for taking six terrified first-graders into his home and giving them fruit juice during the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre.


The four girls and two boys told Rosen they couldn’t return to class because a man with guns had killed their teacher. Indeed Victoria Soto was among the 26 dead – 20 children and six staffers – gunned down by Adam Lanza at the Newtown, Conn., school that day.
“I comforted them because I’m a grandfather,” Rosen, 69, who lives across the street from the school, said in an appearance on TODAY after the tragedy. “They were mortified.”
Now, Rosen and his wife are scared. He says he is being harassed by so-called Sandy Hook "truthers," conspiracy theorists who believe that facts about Newtown are being covered up by the media or other forces as part of a government or anti-gun plot.

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“I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor,” Rosen told the online magazine Salon. A white supremacist message board, Salon said, had ridiculed the “emotional Jewish guy.”
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A photo of Rosen's home was posted online and fake social network accounts have been created in his name, according to the report. Blog posts call him a fraud. “What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?” said one message accusing him of acting, according to Salon.
“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” Rosen said, adding that his wife is worried for their safety.
Rosen’s treatment is the outgrowth of Newtown shooting conspiracy theories expanding on the Internet. Such claims are even coming from sources that appear to be mainstream.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/15/16529522-grandfather-who-comforted-sandy-hook-elementary-kids-says-truthers-are-targeting-him?lite

[Prospero]

Interesting. Thanks for posting that Natina.

[natina]

CONSPIRACY THEORYS AND the tin foil hats


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tinfoil+hat

Propoganda designed to cover up a massive government conspiracy. Begining in the late 1970's, the United States government tried to cover up its radio-wave thought-control program by circulating a false rumor that people could shield their minds from government intrusion by wearing a tinfoil hat. In truth, a tinfoil hat only improves reception and makes it easier for the government to read your mind. Speak truth to power!

A hat made from kitchen aluminum foil or other pliable metallic substance, with the supposed purpose of shielding the wearer's brain from mind control/surveillance by various supernatural or conspirital organizations.

[fred41]

Retired psychologist Gene Rosen was hailed as a hero for taking six terrified first-graders into his home and giving them fruit juice during the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre.[/URL]

Damn...I don't think the term "hero" really means anything anymore.

[trish]

You entertain six excited (and frightened) first graders by yourself for an afternoon and then tell us Rosen was heroic.

[fred41]

You entertain six excited (and frightened) first graders by yourself for an afternoon and then tell us Rosen was heroic.

I remember the original segment on him...I thought he was making a play for attention (and I wasn't the only one).
I don't believe any of this conspiracy bullshit...and I rarely ever do.

To me, there's obviously no government/media cover-up here. The idea is simply ludicrous. But he came across as someone who desperately wanted 5 min. of fame. Just my opinion at the time.

[fred41]

Victoria Soto was a hero...she tried to shield her students from bullets with her body.

Mr. Rosen claimed he gave some juice.
I'll leave it at that.

[yodajazz]

I heard a little about the conspiracy theory with this. Supposedly the people were sacrificed for a 'winter solstice' ritual. Also this fits in with the gun lobby view that it is all an part of a plan to take away our guns. Thus anyone involve in the actual incident would be part of a cover up. I don't believe this myself.

I don't believe that it is possible to have a one world government. In my region we have numerous smaller localities. I don't see any of them giving up much autonomy, to a proposed larger regional authority. So how much more complicated would it be for larger regions, such as states, and then entire nations to give up authority? We often see church congregations splitting up. And these are people, who have common beliefs in the nature of the universe.

[yodajazz]

Some have even tried to claim the whole thing never happened. This article touches on that.

http://news.yahoo.com/why-sandy-hook-massacre-spawned-conspiracy-theories-184323398.html

[broncofan]

Victoria Soto was a hero...she tried to shield her students from bullets with her body.

Mr. Rosen claimed he gave some juice.
I'll leave it at that.
So your quibble is that he is given too much credit and not that he's been harassed for no reason? I don't see how someone else's heroism detracts from his actions or justifies his mistreatment.

So let me see, Victoria Soto shielded students from bullets and you did nothing?

[fred41]

So your quibble is that he is given too much credit and not that he's been harassed for no reason? I don't see how someone else's heroism detracts from his actions or justifies his mistreatment.

So let me see, Victoria Soto shielded students from bullets and you did nothing?

Try to follow the sequence of posts...my quibble was with the medias use of the word "hero".

[broncofan]

Try to follow the sequence of posts...my quibble was with the medias use of the word "hero".
It's hard to follow because there's not much relevant there. It seems like bitterness that you would choose to quibble over how Huffington Post or any individual outlet chooses to refer to a kindly man who tries to help out children in a crisis. You also insinuate that his actions were exploitative and that he was an attention seeker.

I'm glad you don't support the conspiracy theorists, you just provide cover for their harassment of an elderly man who happened to help out some children.

[Prospero]

It was the element of the story that Mr Rosen is vitually being threatened that interested me... particularly explicit references to his Jewish identity. I don't find this surprising. A newspaper in upstate New york that published a list of gun owners in the area (a controversial move to be sure) has recently had death threats, the addresses of its staff and owners posted online by extreme right wing groups with details about how safe and protected their homes are. So a few radical rightwingers claiming that this is a government conspiracy is not so far fetched. All that blather about black helicopters and the UN preparing to take over America comes from the same mentally diseased sources.

[fred41]

It's hard to follow because there's not much relevant there. It seems like bitterness that you would choose to quibble over how Huffington Post or any individual outlet chooses to refer to a kindly man who tries to help out children in a crisis. You also insinuate that his actions were exploitative and that he was an attention seeker.

I'm glad you don't support the conspiracy theorists, you just provide cover for their harassment of an elderly man who happened to help out some children.

well it annoys me..lol.
News media do that all the time.

Also, I'm not insinuating anything...for the record I'm coming right out and saying it - same as I did when his story came out in real time: http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73100&page=5

I did,and still do, feel that he was an attention seeker. At the time I even had extreme reservations about whether any of his personal story ever took place at all. But hey, no harm done...his story (factual or not) would've just disappeared over time like most personal stories do....except the government conspiracy assholes brought it right back out again.

Maybe other people,maybe even in his own town, questioned his story...couldn't just let it drop...and it grew legs. Doubt attracted hate...and with it - the eventual psychos. Unfortunately,that is one of the drawbacks of online networking...haters and bullies can come together.

[broncofan]

No harm no foul Fred. I do see your point. The harassment of him is obnoxious in its own right but there is something a bit eccentric about the guy even if I think he's mostly innocent.