Is It True What Franklyn Said About Christian?

[nysprod]

I've seen Franklyn mention this several times. I don't believe it, but I'm curious as to why Christian hasn't replied to it (at least to my knowledge):

Christian: Franklin might be the biggest buffoon out there. Suddenly he knows what selling the best? From his parent's basement in middle of nowhere? oooookay. lol

Franklyn: The only buffoon here is you. No other pornstar threatens someone who doesn't want to work with them.

Obviously, there's no love lost between them...so what's the deal with this?

[dante]

true

[nysprod]

true

elaborate

[GroobySteven]

In the dozens (100??) shoots Christian has done for us, I've never heard this rumour. In spending time with him on a social level to knowing non-TS companies who've worked with him and many well known models ... I've never heard this rumour.
The first time I heard it, was in Franklin's retort.
I've never had bad feedback on him from a model, ever!

[nysprod]

In the dozens (100??) shoots Christian has done for us, I've never heard this rumour. In spending time with him on a social level to knowing non-TS companies who've worked with him and many well known models ... I've never heard this rumour.
The first time I heard it, was in Franklin's retort.
I've never had bad feedback on him from a model, ever!

Good enough for me!

[jennylicious]

Even if they did say it, it is obviously something private between them regardless of the medium the comments were made on.

It seems to me that Christian gets enough beef already for basically being a good looking guy with a good body and a nice voice who goes on screen and does a good job. I don't know what he is like. He could be an arse, or he could be a great guy, but all that should matter to anyone who doesn't actually have to deal with him is if he does a good job.

He may be a victim of his success, and I'm sure there are a lot of guys out there who are jealous of him, but airing any dirty laundry he may or may not have is only going to make people more annoyed when they see him on screen. Consequently they'll probably enjoy what they are watching much less, and nobody wants to do that.

So unless someone actually wants to make a statement, then best let comments of a personal nature stay exactly that: 'personal'.

[nysprod]

Even if they did say it, it is obviously something private between them regardless of the medium the comments were made on.

It was said...on a public forum...that makes it non-private.

[jennylicious]

It was said...on a public forum...that makes it non-private.

Anything said in public, spoken in the street or written on a forum is non private, but they still refer to something between them only. Hence the comments are still of a personal nature.

[loveboof]

The almighty Franklin is never wrong. Hallowed be his name...

(but yeah, Christian is most likely just a normal dude - i.e. sometimes a bit douchey, sometimes ok. He might have made some dumb comment along the way, but probably doesn't go around threatening people at his work... lol)

[MrsKellyPierce]

The drama of it all lol

[nysprod]

The almighty Franklin is never wrong. Hallowed be his name...

(but yeah, Christian is most likely just a normal dude - i.e. sometimes a bit douchey, sometimes ok. He might have made some dumb comment along the way, but probably doesn't go around threatening people at his work... lol)

I could see that...I mean, who among us hasn't said or done something we later regretted...Franklyn kind of inferred this was Christian's m.o....

[Jericho]

It seems to me that Christian gets enough beef already.


Heh...I'm easily amused! :shrug

[Rivz]

I think Christian gives as much beef as he gets though ;)

[TSPornFan]

There are many resources confirming about Christian's reactions toward women who are disinterested in working with him. It is up to debate if it is wrong to reject him because of his sexual experiences with transsexuals. However, regardless of the reason women have every right to tell him no. They own their bodies thus the decision is up to the women. He doesn't have any rights to them.

Wendy Williams mentions some of Christian's behavior towards genetic women and to some TS women as well.
http://www.hungdevils.com/index.php?/topic/5888-christianxxx/page__view__findpost__p__119225

[WendyWilliams]

That post was 5 years ago and was about a certain incident, leave me out if your witch hunt.

[TSPornFan]

That post was 5 years ago and was about a certain incident, leave me out if your witch hunt.

You publicly made those comments. If you don't want anyone quoting you or citing you then be careful of what you post online.

I wasn't trying to call you out. You are well respected and creditable. I quoted you to answer the question, nothing more.

[lifeisfiction]

I've seen Franklyn mention this several times. I don't believe it, but I'm curious as to why Christian hasn't replied to it (at least to my knowledge):

Christian: Franklin might be the biggest buffoon out there. Suddenly he knows what selling the best? From his parent's basement in middle of nowhere? oooookay. lol

Franklyn: The only buffoon here is you. No other pornstar threatens someone who doesn't want to work with them.

Obviously, there's no love lost between them...so what's the deal with this?

In 2008 Christian had some major drama, won't go into details but back it was heavy. Ex-gf, other people, and so on and so on. I do think a lot of it has passed as water under bridge. It wasn't because of this board at all, in fact in was something else so Franklin is not making things up, but a lot of happen several years ago.

[TSPornFan]

In 2008 Christian had some major drama, won't go into details but back it was heavy. Ex-gf, other people, and so on and so on. I do think a lot of it has passed as water under bridge. It wasn't because of this board at all, in fact in was something else so Franklin is not making things up, but a lot of happen several years ago.

Drama happen again a year or two ago when he was attacking a girl on Twitter for not working with him. I can't find the links to it.

[GroobySteven]

Drama happen again a year or two ago when he was attacking a girl on Twitter for not working with him. I can't find the links to it.

You're starting to become a troll. It's not even amusing any longer.

[WendyWilliams]

So agree seanchai he is getting worse with flaming topics etc. Reason he is banned and warned on quite a few forums.

[TSPornFan]

You're starting to become a troll. It's not even amusing any longer.

I did not make this topic. Secondly I posted evidence to backup what I said. Thirdly like many porn producers you get pissed if someone criticizes your work or speak the truth about certain topics.

Ban me if you want. You'll just be another angry egoistic porn producer who thinks he is almighty and everything he makes is perfect.

Banning me isn't going to hurt me at all. Like I give a damn.


So agree seanchai he is getting worse with flaming topics etc. Reason he is banned and warned on quite a few forums.

Don't slander me. I am only banned on one porn forum. I have not made any flaming topics. Stop talking out of your ass.

[bluesoul]

quick question: is lisa sparxxx (http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/10/fucking-dungeon.html) still in the pornography business?

[GroobySteven]

I did not make this topic. Secondly I posted evidence to backup what I said. Thirdly like many porn producers you get pissed if someone criticizes your work or speak the truth about certain topics.

Ban me if you want. You'll just be another angry egoistic porn producer who thinks he is almighty and everything he makes is perfect.

Banning me isn't going to hurt me at all. Like I give a damn.



Don't slander me. I am only banned on one porn forum.

I'm not going to make you into the martyr you want to be just yet. You have brought some decent topics on the board but you do need to stop the harrassing and just looking to cause issues. As I've started before I'm one of the few producer/owners who will answer questions and issues openly - which I've done for you.

[WendyWilliams]

slander you? LOL

[Genetic]

quick question: is lisa sparxxx (http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/10/fucking-dungeon.html) still in the pornography business?

Not sure, I think she's semi retired as she only did one film in 2012 which was Alexis Golden's Hotel Orgy Foursome Fucking.

As for Christian, he seems like a regular guy to me. I'm sure he's had hassle in the past and perhaps didn't come off well but haven't all of us at one point or another? No one is perfect. The problem for Christian is that I don't think there is a porn actor that more people are envious of and so he's a target.

Franklin on the other hand is an ignorant troll and Seanchai has showed remarkable restraint in not banning him.

[tsdvdman]

I did not make this topic. Secondly I posted evidence to backup what I said. Thirdly like many porn producers you get pissed if someone criticizes your work or speak the truth about certain topics.

Ban me if you want. You'll just be another angry egoistic porn producer who thinks he is almighty and everything he makes is perfect.

Banning me isn't going to hurt me at all. Like I give a damn.



Don't slander me. I am only banned on one porn forum. I have not made any flaming topics. Stop talking out of your ass.
Don't worry..he wont ban you. As much as he says otherwise, he actually really loves you. He spends a lot of time responding to all of your questions and opinions in every thread point by point. In fact..almost all of them do..lol
Your threads are more popular than most of the girls...are you getting paid?..lol In a weird way..you have become defined of what this board is about. Every thread every topic every criticism every opposing opinion is magnified and scrutinized. You are Da Man!!

[christianxxx]

What Franklin means when he says that nonsense is this: I perform the bulk of my scenes in GG or "straight" porn. But I also perform for almost all the TS companies and I don't apologize for that, or pretend I don't. This makes me an anomaly among the "straight" male performers. They almost ALL love TS girls, but would never do a scene on camera because they don't want the drama (being called gay etc). But you can be ASSURED they most CERTAINLY fuck TS girls off camera where no one can see them.

Perhaps the biggest problem I have had is with GG porn girls refusing to work with me, even AFTER we have done a scene together and it being a good scene with no problems. This is almost always because someone has told that girl she shouldn't work with me because I am "gay" or because I fuck "trannies".

I refuse to allow people to slander my name because I perform in scenes with beautiful TS girls. So I basically call them out on their shit. That straight male performer who bangs TS girls in PRIVATE is fine - but because I do it on camera where I get paid and with TS girls who also get tested makes me persona non grata somehow?

But as for "threatening"? As in bodily harm? Nonsense & Impossible. All porn girls have agents - those agents would ban me for threatening one of their girls and I would lose work. I would never allow myself to lose work - that's less money for me and bad business. I have been in porn for over 10 years now and done way north of 2000 scenes, this would not be possible if I went around threatening girls.

Now, have I said that I would inform other companies & directors that I work with & for about her homophobic and anti-TS stance? Most definitely. If you want to classify that as a threat...then so be it.

I don't argue with Franklin because generally speaking, arguing with a crazy person is never a good policy. Either YOU begin to look crazy or you have a circular conversation that the crazy person doesn't understand and will never understand. I chose to call him out on his ridiculous nonsense and stop right there.

Any other questions comments concerns or criticisms?

[bluesoul]

Any other questions comments concerns or criticisms?

yeah. do you still play cards @ that one dude's house? (i remember seeing you and i think dick nasty etc there)

[christianxxx]

no that poker game ends 3-4 years ago. Some of the players passed away or got sick or were kind of bounced out of the biz. Now I just play at Hustler Casino

[christianxxx]

by the way, notice that Franklin's "example" of me "threatening" a girl was a post by Wendy Williams taking me to task that I was pissed at a GG for not working with me because someone told her I perform with TS girls....EVEN THOUGH HER GIRLFRIEND WAS JAMIE FRENCH - that is the kind of nonsensical bullshit I have to deal with on a monthly basis...for 10 years now.

By the way, there wasn't a single threat on my end anywhere - nor could you find one if you looked. Franklin has a curious definition of the word "threat" i guess.

[TSPornFan]

However, you ignored the part that she said you do this often. I said you have threaten and harassed women who rejected to make a scene with you. Threating and Harassing does not automatically mean that you physically harm them. I never said you physically harmed anyone. Say that I am crazy yet you are unable to comprehend posts.

You call me crazy, but you're the one always harassing women who don't want to work with you. The Pot Calling The Kettle Black

[WendyWilliams]

My 5 year ago rant and used the word "often" was exactly as Christian just stated. He had a few cases with becoming on the defensive and making things kind of hard on a few girls who REFUSED TO WORK WITH HIM BECAUSE OF HIM WORKING WITH TRANSSEXUALS.

You are making this to sound more than it was. Whether I agreed with how he handled it isn't any of anyone's business but his and the performer in question. HE chose to take the girls to task for their choice and some saw it as crude as others found it amusing. Either way there was no physical threats etc.

The whole gg vs ts thing was a big discussion then and he received shit from it on all ends.

Please stop trying to use my rant as some "proof".

YIKES just stop already.

[nysprod]

Thanks for the input Christian, you've explained things very well...if you've had problems in the so-called "straight" GG porn industry because you do TS porn, I say fuck them...if I was in your position, I'd call them out on their shit too.

I think the whole idea of there being prejudice or negativity on the part of the GG industry towards the TS industry is ridiculous anyway...I mean, talk about ironic!

[Kire89]

Keep doing God's work Christian (and I'm not even religious)! :)

[Willie Escalade]

Thanks for the input Christian, you've explained things very well...if you've had problems with GG porn because you do TS porn, I say fuck them...if I was in your position, I'd call them out on their shit too.
He DOES fuck them...:tongue:

[littletwink]

However, you ignored the part that she said you do this often. I said you have threaten and harassed women who rejected to make a scene with you. Threating and Harassing does not automatically mean that you physically harm them. I never said you physically harmed anyone. Say that I am crazy yet you are unable to comprehend posts.

You call me crazy, but you're the one always harassing women who don't want to work with you. The Pot Calling The Kettle Black

Maybe you should learn to clearly write what you want to say.

[TSPornFan]

Maybe you should learn to clearly write what you want to say.

Maybe I should buy you hook on phonics. When someone clearly does NOT say the words "physical harm" and you think they did then you clearly have problems.

[SunshyneMonroe]

I dunno but id still fuck em :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Can I just speak on this...

I haven't worked with Christian, and he has never threatened me.

He may of though I blocked him from scenes, when I never did.

Trust me with one of the guys that got in on scenes, I was kind of pissed off about it. Especially a Joey Silvera Scene I did, I wont name the male model, but I guess since he introduced me to Joey he got the scene. I would of much rather of worked with Christian than the guy I worked with.

But..I have never been threatened by him. Even when we were in arguments, he has never threatened me.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Now if you put debates/argues/challenges girls who wont do scenes with him..that I could agree with :)

[christianxxx]

I would also agree with that Kelly simply because they are taking food off my table and I just can't have that. lol

[christianxxx]

Also to be honest the number of girls that give 2 shits about guys that work with TS girls has dwindled. Kink shooting so many TS and GG together or at least putting them in the same room together, the # of GG in porn that wanted to have sex with Kimber James, and the constant intermingling of GG and TS for Nick Milo (the SMC Productions shooter) has really made the homophobic element in porn go the way of the dinosaur.

The guys are still very hesitant to go from straight porn to TS porn (thank fucking god lol) but the girls now have no problem doing it. lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

Also to be honest the number of girls that give 2 shits about guys that work with TS girls has dwindled. Kink shooting so many TS and GG together or at least putting them in the same room together, the # of GG in porn that wanted to have sex with Kimber James, and the constant intermingling of GG and TS for Nick Milo (the SMC Productions shooter) has really made the homophobic element in porn go the way of the dinosaur.

The guys are still very hesitant to go from straight porn to TS porn (thank fucking god lol) but the girls now have no problem doing it. lol
Yeah they guys just do it dm via twitter asking for a hook up lol

[last_stop]

Maybe you should learn to clearly write what you want to say.


Maybe I should buy you hook on phonics. When someone clearly does NOT say the words "physical harm" and you think they did then you clearly have problems.

I thought he was referring to your lousy written grammar. Your posts are painful to read.

[last_stop]

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This makes me an anomaly among the "straight" male performers. They almost ALL love TS girls, but would never do a scene on camera because they don't want the drama (being called gay etc). But you can be ASSURED they most CERTAINLY fuck TS girls off camera where no one can see them.
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'Almost all' is hard to believe, but 60% wouldn't surprise me given the amount of homoerotic stuff I see in a lot of straight scenes

[TSPornFan]

'Almost all' is hard to believe, but 60% wouldn't surprise me given the amount of homoerotic stuff I see in a lot of straight scenes

Actually many female pornstars hangout with TS pornstars.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Actually many female pornstars hangout with TS pornstars.
Yep most of my pornstar friends are female

[Kevin Dong]

I think it's hilarious that Christian gets shit from anyone. I usually stay out of threads like this, but I can't help myself in this instance. Christian's professionalism should never be under question. He's the best male talent you can get, period. Pull your fucking heads out of your asses.

[TSCURIOUS]

Just reading this thread after a day at work-
I'm thinking: US 1, Franklin 0

[Wendy Summers]

i think it's hilarious that christian gets shit from anyone. I usually stay out of threads like this, but i can't help myself in this instance. Christian's professionalism should never be under question. He's the best male talent you can get, period. Pull your fucking heads out of your asses.

this.

[loveboof]

Just reading this thread after a day at work-
I'm thinking: US 1, Franklin 0

Oh come on. Franklin didn't start this thread!

It involves something he said, so obviously he's gonna defend himself.

[vincidog]

This is a very strange thread. My opinion of Christian is that he is a consummate professional; as he stated he would only harm himself if he threatened other talent.

Jeez, the man gets to fuck gorgeous women (gg and tg) on a regular basis and get paid for it. He is very good at what he does and draws the best out of the talent he shoots with. Only a moron would jeopardize that.