Is a Crisis in White Masculinity Leading to Horrific Gun Crimes Like the Sandy Hook S

[natina]

Is a Crisis in White Masculinity Leading to Horrific Gun Crimes Like the Sandy Hook Shootings?

America's obsession with guns has played out its dark game once more.

My heart goes out to the families, children, victims, and all others impacted by the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newton, Connecticut (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school.html?hp).
America's obsession with guns has played out its dark game once more. We are eating our young because so many believe that America is a gunfighter nation. For them, the "right" to bear arms trumps any reasonable legislation about restricting access to certain types of firearms. This most recent mass shooting, which will likely be the worst incident of gun violence in recent American history, is not going to cause a rethinking of the country's love affair with such weapons. Nor will the mass murder of 20 children and 6 adults by Adam Lanza weaken the NRA's hold on our legislators. The NRA and their clan will retreat back to a default position and rhetorical redoubt where "guns don't kill people, only people do."
These same ideologues, who in the 21st century remain some type of throwback premodern tribesman at the early dawn of human history, are utterly devoted to a fetish object of metal and plastic which they worship as a god. For them, the mass shooting of children in Newton, Connecticut will be a funeral pyre whose light they will read as spirits dancing in the shadows, beckoning to them that more guns equals less crime, and that school teachers--and perhaps even children--should be allowed to carry firearms in school. Magical thinking brings public policy solutions that are not grounded in common sense or empirical reality.
As the details of the murderous rampage trickle out, all of the standard talking points by the media will be hit upon. Was Adam Lanza mentally ill? What type of weapons did he us? Were there warning signs? Acts of heroism by the adults and children in the school will be profiled. The first responders will be praised and profiled. People will cry. The pundits will tear up in an effort to show some personal, human connection, to a story that will feed the next news cycle, and will potentially make a career or two for some upstart journalist or TV personality.
Per our national script, there are several questions which will go unanswered...just as they always do. As I wrote about in regards to James Holmes (http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/2012/07/he-is-just-individual-what-james-holmes.html), the Batman movie killer, there will be no soul searching about why white men are committing these violent acts. In the present, mass shootings have been almost the exclusive province of white men (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903554904576464351196934410.html).
One would think someone in the mass media (or who studies gun violence and public health) would find that a mighty curious fact and want to delve deeper into the relationship(s) between whiteness, masculinity, and gun violence.
In all, there will not be a national conversation--one of our country's most overused phrases, what is empty language signalling nothing--exploring if there is a crisis in white masculinity, which in turn is driving these types of horrific crimes.
If Adam Lanza was an Arab American with one of those "Muslim sounding" names, then today's script would be quite different. Questions of "terrorism" would loom large: it would be the default frame for reading the Connecticut school shooting. In all, the United States has a post 9/11 hangover where a moment of national trauma made one group of Americans a perpetual Other.
A person of color who happens to be of Arab descent, and who is Muslim by chosen faith or birth, is not allowed to be a deranged individual who made a choice to kill dozens of people. His or her identity and personhood is one that is "politicized" by default in the West. As such, all actions, however random or outliers, are taken as representative of some type of collective identity, one where terrorism is an inexorable part of its character.
Once more the luxury of being white in the United States is the freedom to have your violent deeds be a reflection of a personal failing, as opposed to a cultural or racial one. On a practical level, White privilege is a set of taken for granted and unearned advantages in life. On an abstract level, white privilege also removes certain questions from consideration regarding such matters as social deviancy and crime. As we saw with James Holmes, and now today with Adam Lanza, an unwillingness to ask those hard questions about gun violence, white masculinity, and crime will only continue to hurt all of us across the colorline.






http://www.alternet.org/visions/crisis-white-masculinity-leading-horrific-gun-crimes-sandy-hook-shootings?page=0%2C1&paging=off

[Dino Velvet]

Looky here. I see a slimy sewer rat trying to peek through the woodwork speculating how White people live again. Actually exploiting the suffering of innocent children with the intention of spreading more hate.

Am I the only one who objects to this?

You like this too? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73159

[robertlouis]

Looky here. I see a slimy sewer rat trying to peek through the woodwork speculating how White people live again. Actually exploiting the suffering of innocent children with the intention of spreading more hate.

Am I the only one who objects to this?

You like this too? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73159

I agree Dino, but only up to a point. It isn't white masculinity, but masculinity in general, or at least the bravado that goes with owning arsenals of automatic weapons that serve no defensive purpose whatsoever. Some of those kids took up to twelve bullets. Think about that for a moment.

[Dino Velvet]

I agree Dino, but only up to a point. It isn't white masculinity, but masculinity in general, or at least the bravado that goes with owning arsenals of automatic weapons that serve no defensive purpose whatsoever. Some of those kids took up to twelve bullets. Think about that for a moment.

Robert, this has nothing to do with the incident. With all due respect, there is a thread where guns are being debated. Natina uses any excuse, capitalizes on any opportunity, with this being the worst example, to make racist threads about White people that are intended to be hostile. If racism is wrong than all racism is wrong.

[robertlouis]

Robert, this has nothing to do with the incident. With all due respect, there is a thread where guns are being debated. Natina uses any excuse, capitalizes on any opportunity, with this being the worst example, to make racist threads about White people that are intended to be hostile. If racism is wrong than all racism is wrong.


Fair comment. I stand corrected. And it's certainly true that in the aftermath of the horror in Connecticut people need to stand together and not be diverted from the primary focus of placing reasonable controls on gun ownership and use. In that sense, Natina's post is every bit as pernicious as the nutjobs on the right who scream about mental illness or Godless schools

[natina]

Austin Noodle House Owner in Hot Water Over Racially Charged Comments About Sandy Hook Shooting

The owner of a Thai Noodle House in Austin has been on the receiving end of significant backlash since posting a Facebook status update expressing a lack of concern for the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting.

"I don't care if a bunch of white kids got killed," the Thailand-born Eddie Nimibutr wrote in the update he posted on Friday, shortly after the incident took place. "Fuck Post-Racial bullshit. When kids from minority groups get shot, nobody cares. When Israel launched missiles at the school on Gaza, everybody was too busy jerking off. Why should i care about people who dont give a damn about me?"

Nimibutr claims the post inspired several people to call him "with threat of violence." He responded with a follow up post, attempting to clear up his earlier comments.

"I have stated throughout the years in my beliefs with millions in cut to mental health programs, school programs, after school programs," Nimibutr wrote.


He continued:

Years after years, thousands of kids in juvenile detention centers. Hundreds of them hungry tonight and have no places to sleep. Thousands are mentally and sexually abused by someone they know. Catholic churches and the Boys' Scout are hiding pedophiles everywhere. I mentioned Gaza and Israel. Aurora, Virginia Tech, and 4 other shootings since Columbine. I don't even remember. Where is the sympathy for them? It's just a headline news.
The follow up did little to assuage Nimibutr's critics (https://www.facebook.com/ThaiNoodleHouseEddieNimibutr?fref=ts), so he gave it one more shot (http://www.facebook.com/eddie.nimibutr/posts/446310028751979):

If you don't like me or my opinions, I suggest you to unfriend me and fuck off. I am pretty much sick of some people telling me what to think, how to think, or how to feel today, and if you don't like my foods, fuck off and eat someplace else.
Ultimately, it seems the negative response took its toll on Nimibutr. A call placed to Thai Noodle House by restaurant writer R.L Reeves (http://www.scrumptiouschef.com/food/index.cfm/2012/12/17/Eddie-Nimibutr-Ousted-At-Thai-Noodle-House-Over-Racist-Facebook-Screed) resulted in a bizarre exchange with an employee who claimed Eddie was the restaurant's chef, not its owner, and was no longer working at the establishment.
(Reeves found Nimibutr listed as the restaurant's owner, and suggests the diversion was an attempt at "a bit of damage control.")
On his Facebook page, Nimibutr appears to confirm (http://www.facebook.com/eddie.nimibutr/posts/447164921999823) a leave of absence at least: "I think It's time for me to get out of this city for awhile for a nice hike down south."

http://gawker.com/5969179/austin-noodle-house-owner-in-hot-water-over-racially-charged-comments-about-sandy-hook-shooting

[natina]

I feel for those kids and wish the family well.

R.I.P.

[Dino Velvet]

Fair comment. I stand corrected. And it's certainly true that in the aftermath of the horror in Connecticut people need to stand together and not be diverted from the primary focus of placing reasonable controls on gun ownership and use. In that sense, Natina's post is every bit as pernicious as the nutjobs on the right who scream about mental illness or Godless schools

Thank you.

I admit myself to using racially charged language in the past. I have voluntarily moderated my own behavior and have been way better. I took restraint in not lowering myself to her level in retaliation here.

[Dino Velvet]

I feel for those kids and wish the family well.

R.I.P.

Nobody's saying you don't. Just don't try to peddle your racist bullshit propaganda disguising it as concern for humanity. This is not the time to divide people.

[natina]

about white violence because of the coping factor

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html


Has Black Friday arrived in America? If so, are you prepared?



Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.



As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:



Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.



So, as a result, it is the privileged (the beneficiaries of racism, and also, it should be pointed out, the class system) who are ill-prepared for setback: the loss of a job, stocks taking a nose-dive (who were the folks jumping out the windows in the great depression–not poor folks and folks of color, but rich whites who couldn’t handle being broke!) Likewise, if you look at the various personal pathologies that tend to be disproportionate in the white community (and upper middle class for that matter), they are interesting in that they all are about control–controlling one’s anxiety, emotional pain, or controlling and dominating others–like suicide, substance abuse, eating disorders, self-injury/mutilation, serial killing and mass murder (as opposed to just regular one-on-one homicide), sexual sadism killings, etc

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html

[Dino Velvet]

about white violence because of the coping factor

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html


Has Black Friday arrived in America? If so, are you prepared?



Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.



As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:



Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.



So, as a result, it is the privileged (the beneficiaries of racism, and also, it should be pointed out, the class system) who are ill-prepared for setback: the loss of a job, stocks taking a nose-dive (who were the folks jumping out the windows in the great depression–not poor folks and folks of color, but rich whites who couldn’t handle being broke!) Likewise, if you look at the various personal pathologies that tend to be disproportionate in the white community (and upper middle class for that matter), they are interesting in that they all are about control–controlling one’s anxiety, emotional pain, or controlling and dominating others–like suicide, substance abuse, eating disorders, self-injury/mutilation, serial killing and mass murder (as opposed to just regular one-on-one homicide), sexual sadism killings, etc

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html

You still with this shit? I thought you learned your error. You're more ignorant than I thought you were. What happened to you to turn you into such a creepy race-obsessed freak? Your hatred of us and paranoia about us absolutely devours you on a daily basis.

[Dino Velvet]

Keep at it, Natina. I'm watching your dumb ass real good. You will not be allowed to go after my race. Do you understand?

[Stavros]

Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.

As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:

Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.

So, as a result, it is the privileged (the beneficiaries of racism, and also, it should be pointed out, the class system) who are ill-prepared for setback: the loss of a job, stocks taking a nose-dive (who were the folks jumping out the windows in the great depression–not poor folks and folks of color, but rich whites who couldn’t handle being broke!) Likewise, if you look at the various personal pathologies that tend to be disproportionate in the white community (and upper middle class for that matter), they are interesting in that they all are about control–controlling one’s anxiety, emotional pain, or controlling and dominating others–like suicide, substance abuse, eating disorders, self-injury/mutilation, serial killing and mass murder (as opposed to just regular one-on-one homicide), sexual sadism killings, etc


I have stated in posts in other threads before that I don't think race is a meaningful concept. This do-it-yourself psychology is embarrassing. It doesn't mean that some men flip when everything goes wrong and destroy their own families, or go berserk in schools and malls, because it has happened, but to define the cause in terms of colour, class and 'masculinity' begs the question why if it is true it doesn't happen more often, particularly in periods of high unemployment and financial collapse -or it may just not be true of enough men for it to be anything other than a theory about a very small and extreme example of human behaviour.

When the myth of Wall St suicides in 1929 is trotted out with no research you know you are on weak ground anyway -this brief link indicates that there were numerically more suicides before the crash than after it, so that it is more meaningful to look at the issue of suicide in context rather than, as it were, leap from 'enfeebled masculinity in the face of financial ruin' out of an historical window that wasn't there.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-1589,00.html

[Dino Velvet]

I have stated in posts in other threads before that I don't think race is a meaningful concept.

The only topic of this thread is race. I have experience with Natina. Don't fall for her "well-meaning distractions". All she is concerned with is race and going after Whitey. Any double standards allowed lead to bitterness which can escalate into other areas.

[fred41]

I don't take anyone with multiple usernames seriously anyway.

[Jericho]

I feel for those kids and wish the family well.

R.I.P.

Hollow heart, hollow words.
This isn't the time to be scoring points.

[GroobySteven]

Natina - enough of the racist propaganda.
One more, you're going to be having a nice Xmas break which will see you well into the New Year.
Final Warning.

[natina]

actually I read that there are

2 massacre's a day in the USA

Tim Wise is a sociologist and he has citations to the studies and statistics.

just go to the bottom of his essay and do the research from there and get

the information from the same souces that he did and compare to other

sources of the same information.

like I said before I do not like it that children were involved and the fact

that they were like 7,8, 9 year olds is very sickening to me.


I have stated in posts in other threads before that I don't think race is a meaningful concept. This do-it-yourself psychology is embarrassing. It doesn't mean that some men flip when everything goes wrong and destroy their own families, or go berserk in schools and malls, because it has happened, but to define the cause in terms of colour, class and 'masculinity' begs the question why if it is true it doesn't happen more often, particularly in periods of high unemployment and financial collapse -or it may just not be true of enough men for it to be anything other than a theory about a very small and extreme example of human behavior.

When the myth of Wall St suicides in 1929 is trotted out with no research you know you are on weak ground anyway -this brief link indicates that there were numerically more suicides before the crash than after it, so that it is more meaningful to look at the issue of suicide in context rather than, as it were, leap from 'enfeebled masculinity in the face of financial ruin' out of an historical window that wasn't there.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-1589,00.html

[natina]

NRA blames media, music and more for culture of violence

National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre blamed Hollywood, video games music, the courts and more on Friday for creating a culture of violence in the United States.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” he said at a Washington press event, adding, “With all the money in the federal budget can’t we afford to put a police officer in every single school?”


http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16069537-nra-blames-media-music-and-more-for-culture-of-violence?lite>1=43001 (http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16069537-nra-blames-media-music-and-more-for-culture-of-violence?lite&gt1=43001)

[trish]

The only thing that can eliminate an idiot is a teacher. With all the money in the federal budget, can't we put a teacher in every gun store?

[Dino Velvet]

Natina, don't be trying to worm your race crap here again. You bumped the one thread that almost got you bumped off in here. I know what your motivation really is.

[natina]

Huffington Post Tracks 100+ Shooting Deaths in Week

Website making a point about gun violence

Everyone heard about the Sandy Hook rampage, but not so much about the dozens of individuals across the country who were shot to death in the following week. The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/us-shooting-deaths-sandy-hook_n_2348466.html) tracked gun-related murders and accidents through Google and Nexis searches and came up with more than 100. It's giving the story is getting prominent play on the website under a "To Live and Die in America" headline.
"There were murder-suicides," writes Jason Cherkis. "One was shot in the face while sleeping, a baby sound asleep in a crib nearby. One was a grandmother on her way home from a store." And on and on. HuffPo notes that the count is almost certainly low, given that the nation logged twice the number of homicides in an average week in 2010. Click for the full story (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/us-shooting-deaths-sandy-hook_n_2348466.html), which comes a day after the NRA's defiant (http://www.newser.com/story/159733/nra-we-need-armed-guards-in-every-school.html) (and smart? (http://www.newser.com/story/159764/sorry-pundits-that-was-a-smart-move-by-nra.html)) news conference. Slate has a similar, crowd-sourced effort under way here (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_new town_sandy_hook_shooting.html).

http://www.newser.com/story/159769/huffington-post-tracks-100-shooting-deaths-in-week.html

U.S. Shooting Deaths Since Sandy Hook Top 100

WASHINGTON -- The night after Sandy Hook (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/sandy-hook-shooting-victims-names_n_2307354.html), a gunman pulled behind a car in Kansas City's east side and opened fire, striking 4-year-old Aydan Perea in the head. The boy had just gotten into his father's car.
“He was innocent and he was just lifeless,” said the first bystander (http://fox4kc.com/2012/12/18/child-shot-in-drive-by-declared-brain-dead-case-now-a-homicide/) to reach Aydan. “All my life I’ve never seen nothing so devastating. I’m unable to eat, I’m unable to sleep because I see this baby in my head."
It was not the pre-schooler's first brush with gun violence. A year earlier, a gunman fired a shotgun at the house where Aydan had been staying. No one was injured, but bullets shattered a front window and riddled a parked car. This week, days after the drive-by shooting, doctors declared the boy brain dead (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/19/3972866/boy-taken-off-life-support.html).
Aydan's mother said her world has "stopped."
In the week following the Sandy Hook massacre, a body was found inside a vacant house, at a car wash, in a bodega. They were discovered on a bike trail, in a backyard, inside the front office of a motel, in an idling Chevy pickup. They were the 67th murder in their city and the 88th and the 124th.
All had one thing in common: the murder weapon. All died from gunshots. Shots to the head. Multiples to the chest. And so on.
This week, as mourners gathered in Newtown, Conn., to bury Sandy Hook Elementary's dead, and a nation renewed its debate over guns, the shootings did not stop. The Huffington Post spent the week tracking gun-related homicides and accidents throughout the U.S., logging more than 100 from Google and Nexis searches. This is by no means a definitive tally. In 2010, there were more than twice that many homicides (http://factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/) alone in an average week.

There were murder-suicides. One was shot in the face (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/12/city_woman_killed_this_morning.html) while sleeping, a baby sound asleep in a crib nearby. One was a grandmother on her way home from a store.
On Saturday afternoon, a 3-year-old (http://www.news9.com/story/20358993/vigil-held-for-3-year-old-guthrie-boy) in Guthrie, Okla., died after accidentally shooting himself in the head with a gun he found inside his aunt and uncle's house. His uncle is an Oklahoma state trooper.
"Nobody should have to go through something like that," a resident said during a candlelight vigil for the boy. An aunt at the vigil said, "We are all so close to him. My brother here visited him three times a week and my mom babysat him twice a week."
Paul Sampleton Jr (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/teen-found-shot-to-death-in-gwinnett-county-home/nTbGn/)., 14, was bound and shot in his Gwinnett County, Ga., townhome on Wednesday afternoon. His father found him in the kitchen. Police suspect a robbery motive.
"He was smiling, listening to music," a friend recalled to a local reporter. "He got on his bus, I got on mine. We were all happy."
A 20-year-old man shot and killed Veronica Soto (http://www.khou.com/news/local/Mother-shot-dead-in-driveway-of-Fort-Bend-County-home-184255171.html), a young mother of two, in an apparent road rage incident on Thursday. Soto and her husband had gone out to a nearby Jack in the Box in the Houston area when they became involved in a confrontation with drivers in two other cars. The accused killer Mark Trevino, and the victim's husband pulled guns.
"Investigators said Mark Trevino came to a stop, ran into his home on Addicks-Clodine, grabbed a rifle and started shooting. Soto was shot in the head. Her husband also pulled out his gun. 'They started shooting back and forth and the bullet went through the windshield, hit her and went out the back windshield,' said Matthew Soto, the victim’s brother-in-law," reported (http://www.khou.com/news/local/Mother-shot-dead-in-driveway-of-Fort-Bend-County-home-184255171.html) a Houston television station.
The station continued: "Soto’s distraught husband drove to his sister-in-law’s house on Las Brisas near Plaza Libre for help, but it was too late. The mother collapsed and died at the scene."
Soto had two daughters, ages 7 and 14. She just turned 30.
In Georgetown, Ohio, a 71-year-old man was arrested (http://www.fox19.com/story/20365489/ohioan-71-charged-in-adult-sons-shooting-death) on Sunday after shooting his adult son John Louderback in the chest. The sheriff's office said the man called 911 and confessed.
Ramona Foreman (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-grandma-another-innocent-bystander-4135783.php) was found shot in the doorway of the Oakland, Calif., 92nd Avenue Head Start office. The 48-year-old and her sister were walking home from a store when shots rang out. Foreman had been the innocent victim of a drive-by shooting. The victim's stepdaughter told a reporter (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland-grandma-another-innocent-bystander-4135783.php) that her grandmother was the 13th person she knows killed this year.
Deputy Sheriff Christopher Parsons (http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/12/21/slain-mo--deputy-grew-up-in-ohio.html), 31, worked the early-morning shift on Saturday, when he took an emergency call to assist an unconscious woman at a trailer park in Mineral Point, Mo. As he helped place the woman in the ambulance, her son came out of the mobile home and fired a rifle, killing Parsons.
The deputy had been on the police force for two months. "He had so completely figured things out and had worked so hard," his mother told a reporter.
On Sunday in New Orleans, three people were shot and killed (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/12/3_slain_in_separate_new_orlean.html), including 18-year-old Lawrence Burt, 56-year-old Vivian Snyder, and a 56-year-old Jefferson Parish taxi driver Joseph Wilfred, who was shot behind the wheel. According to an account (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/12/3_slain_in_separate_new_orlean.html), he'd been on the job for about three weeks.
That same afternoon, 25-year-old Krystal Garcia Nacoa was allegedly shot to death (http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/12/16/3103735/porterville-man-wanted-in-connection.html) by her husband, Leonardo Nacoa, 26, at their Porterville, Calif., home. Police found the husband's cell phone number and called it multiple times, until the man finally picked up. He admitted that he had fled across the border to Mexico. Police were able to get Nacoa to surrender.
His three young children (http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=8922130) were inside the home at the time of the shooting and weren't physically hurt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/us-shooting-deaths-sandy-hook_n_2348466.html

[Dino Velvet]

Any need to bump your racist thread, Natina? You've already revealed your plan of getting back in after your banning. You could've put your post in another thread or made a new one. Your real intent is obvious.

Still trying to convince us you care and your motives are pure. Hatred is what gets you out of bed in the morning. Keep at it.

[broncofan]

I have also noticed that Natina's threads seem to be narrowly focused on race. Race and racism can be interesting topics to explore but only if one makes a good faith effort to avoid being hypocritical about it. Even her posts about sex are laced with unsolicited references to race.

The silly term "reverse racism" has always been a misnomer because anyone regardless of background can be a racist if they choose to dislike others different from them. It is also true that some in the guise of combatting racism feel justified in engaging in it. That is the strain of hypocrisy here.