Guys who want to bottom

[MsDazzler]

I am not disaparaging guys who like to bottom and want Tgirls to top them. That is their preference.

However, I constantly seem to get "bottom" types more than "top" types. Are there far more guys who want to bottom than guys who want to top in the TS community?

I know in the gay community, the ratio of bottoms to tops is far skewed and tops are always in demand, lol. Sometimes bottoms have to relcutantly switch to being vers in order to satisfy the other partner they have fallen for and they are bottoms only.

I just would love to find that dream man I want and he is a 100 % top... FML

On a related note, I just don't find asses attractive and when a guy emails me his ass picures upfront, I am instantly turned off. Does any other TG girl feel the same way?

[darkrose2000]

Nothing new under the sun :)

Lets be honest most of the guys are looking for Tgirls, because of her dick...

Ofcourse not everyone, but it seems that your observations are quite right.

Regards,
K.

[innocentbychoice]

I am not disaparaging guys who like to bottom and want Tgirls to top them. That is their preference.

However, I constantly seem to get "bottom" types more than "top" types. Are there far more guys who want to bottom than guys who want to top in the TS community?

I know in the gay community, the ratio of bottoms to tops is far skewed and tops are always in demand, lol. Sometimes bottoms have to relcutantly switch to being vers in order to satisfy the other partner they have fallen for and they are bottoms only.

I just would love to find that dream man I want and he is a 100 % top... FML

On a related note, I just don't find asses attractive and when a guy emails me his ass picures upfront, I am instantly turned off. Does any other TG girl feel the same way?

I don't think that is particularly true about the gay community. There are many tops just like there are many bottoms, and there are a lot of people in between.

When it comes to TS women, well I guess it's very common for guys wanting to bottom, after all they can always top with GGs right? I mean I know they can also top with TS but I think the possibility of bottoming is probably something that attracts them more to tgirls.

[MsDazzler]

Well, isn't anal sex a big attraction for those guys? I have met some guys who told me that they love trans women because they love giving anal, and with transwomen, it is not up for debate. A lot of natal women refuse to even consider doing anal at all.

[caliuncut]

my 2 cents - msdazzler is definitely right about tops being in demand in the gay community, just go look on your local craigslist boards. It's overflowing with bottoms, cocksuckers, etc...its like a 15:1 ratio lol.

I personally do not want a ts who is a top, I enjoy the femininity and the raw beauty so many tgirls exude. It's more of a mindstate - the yin and yang of fem and masc and an understanding of the dynamic which oddly enough most GG's just don't get.

Now as far as the problem of too many guys wanting to bottom...lol, I can feel your pain I guess. Might I ask where you are looking...are you posting on CL looking for guys, are you being clear about the type of guy you're looking for?

btw - it's fair to keep in mind that many ts' probably miss out on a lot of awesome guys because you can be so picky. Every guy must have a 6 pack, be 6''0'+ and pack a min of 8"....We're not all David Beckham here lol.

[sophiebendable]

Dating is really incredibly difficult for straight male bottoms. I know because (in what seems like a past life) I used to see myself that way. This means that whenever a woman of any type is perceived to be a top or even versatile, she'll have tons of men flocking to her. I used to be pretty active in the bdsm community and I can say this is definitely true for non-trans women who are dominant as well. Men who are tops just have so many more options, many of which follow from the ability to be open about their sexual preference. The real problem as I see it is that most people in general think trans women who still have their penis must automatically be tops (when the majority actually seem to be bottoms). That would explain your experience on dating sites.

[caliuncut]

Dating is really incredibly difficult for straight male bottoms. I know because (in what seems like a past life) I used to see myself that way. This means that whenever a woman of any type is perceived to be a top or even versatile, she'll have tons of men flocking to her. I used to be pretty active in the bdsm community and I can say this is definitely true for non-trans women who are dominant as well. Men who are tops just have so many more options, many of which follow from the ability to be open about their sexual preference. The real problem as I see it is that most people in general think trans women who still have their penis must automatically be tops (when the majority actually seem to be bottoms). That would explain your experience on dating sites.

Sophie - you're so purrdy, I am crushing on you big time :kiss:

[canihavu]

My 2 cents on this topic. My personal preference is not to bottom. I have tried it a few times (always at the request of the lady) while it was different, its not really my thing. I asked on lady who asked if she could fuck me why she wanted to do that to me and she replied that she thought all guys wanted that. I do admit I love performing oral but receiving oral and topping is more my thing.

[MsDazzler]

my 2 cents - msdazzler is definitely right about tops being in demand in the gay community, just go look on your local craigslist boards. It's overflowing with bottoms, cocksuckers, etc...its like a 15:1 ratio lol.

I personally do not want a ts who is a top, I enjoy the femininity and the raw beauty so many tgirls exude. It's more of a mindstate - the yin and yang of fem and masc and an understanding of the dynamic which oddly enough most GG's just don't get.

Now as far as the problem of too many guys wanting to bottom...lol, I can feel your pain I guess. Might I ask where you are looking...are you posting on CL looking for guys, are you being clear about the type of guy you're looking for?

btw - it's fair to keep in mind that many ts' probably miss out on a lot of awesome guys because you can be so picky. Every guy must have a 6 pack, be 6''0'+ and pack a min of 8"....We're not all David Beckham here lol.

That is true - I probably am missing out on a lot more sexual opportunities by declining or turning down guys who are interested in bottoming for me. And true - I do tend to be picky about what I want in a man (physically) but lately I have been trying to open up my mind so I can have more options and broaden my horizons...

But, however... like for some people cigarette smoking is a dealbreaker, etc, there are some dealbreakers for me when it comes down to a man - which is if he insists on being a bottom.

[caliuncut]

That is true - I probably am missing out on a lot more sexual opportunities by declining or turning down guys who are interested in bottoming for me. And true - I do tend to be picky about what I want in a man (physically) but lately I have been trying to open up my mind so I can have more options and broaden my horizons...

But, however... like for some people cigarette smoking is a dealbreaker, etc, there are some dealbreakers for me when it comes down to a man - which is if he insists on being a bottom.

Definitely - there are always dealbreakers and I'm not saying you should settle on the basics. If you're a bottom or hate smokers, etc then that's totally cool and you can't change those things. Same goes for me...I would never get together with a girl than insisted on topping me or drugs, etc.

My point was more of people in general who have the superficial prerequisites.

[MsDazzler]

You know, even before I transitioned and was presenting as a "gay" man, I never really liked anyone touching my genitalia down there and was always a 100% bottom.

[innocentbychoice]

Well, isn't anal sex a big attraction for those guys? I have met some guys who told me that they love trans women because they love giving anal, and with transwomen, it is not up for debate. A lot of natal women refuse to even consider doing anal at all.

Well yeah but I'm guessing that if a guy looks specifically for a pre-op TS whether it is to date or just have sex with her, chances are that it is not precisely because of her ass.

[alyssaluxor]

ive written dozens of powerbottom topics before saying most TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms but most guys here think im lying. well at least now they know its true lol

like i said 99.99999999999999% of TS Admirer/Chasers are powerbottom and ultra passive haha ;)

[littletwink]

Dating is really incredibly difficult for straight male bottoms. I know because (in what seems like a past life) I used to see myself that way. This means that whenever a woman of any type is perceived to be a top or even versatile, she'll have tons of men flocking to her. I used to be pretty active in the bdsm community and I can say this is definitely true for non-trans women who are dominant as well. Men who are tops just have so many more options, many of which follow from the ability to be open about their sexual preference. The real problem as I see it is that most people in general think trans women who still have their penis must automatically be tops (when the majority actually seem to be bottoms). That would explain your experience on dating sites.

I'm really into TS/TV who *can* top, even if it's not truly natural for them. I'm a switch myself, typically very dominant by day, but more passive/submissive by night. In other words, you'd probably love waking up with me, Sophie. :dancing:

[littletwink]

ive written dozens of powerbottom topics before saying most TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms but most guys here think im lying. well at least now they know its true lol

like i said 99.99999999999999% of TS Admirer/Chasers are powerbottom and ultra passive haha ;)

When you say powerbottom, are you talking about 'topping from the bottom' or bottoming almost exclusively? Something else?

[innocentbychoice]

When you say powerbottom, are you talking about 'topping from the bottom' or bottoming almost exclusively? Something else?

A powerbottom is someone who is dominant when bottoming. Takes charge in bed even though they're bottoming.

[hungluvr]

Top, bottom then top then bottom...I'm in either way.

[NRT]

I am 100% top and could never be a bottom. I have seen some tgirls who were top only and had a boring time. I find that strange, i thought tgirls are feminine and not into 'masculine' things like topping? there was a top escort, Lola from manhattan who was beautiful but was top only. Maybe some guys like paying for a passable escort to top them? I thought it would be the other way round. I would not want anything up my arse

[jamesedwards]

Well, isn't anal sex a big attraction for those guys? I have met some guys who told me that they love trans women because they love giving anal, and with transwomen, it is not up for debate. A lot of natal women refuse to even consider doing anal at all.

Well if there is a problem in the gay community dealing with bottoms vs tops, ummmmm well they would have to deal with it. I don't deal on a general basis and don't really care what gays do or go through dealing with top and bottoms. Lets face it, most men love to top because that's their nature, guys like me that love to top and bottom are a different species because we understand the affects of being a switch like that and enjoying the ecstasy and orgasm that goes along with being fucked in the ass. I have an anal fetish, I love GG's and TGirls, never would be into gay men.

The men that love to bottom in the gay community is basically Girls, they want to get fucked they don't want to do the actually fucking like women take dick they don't give dick. So the gay men community have to deal with a state that is unnatural, and the stigma that goes along with it. A straight guy wouldn't fuck a gay man but he would fuck a beautiful TGirl because of the concept that she is a woman and loves anal, and a lot of straight men want to fuck an ass and TGirls love ass fucking and it's basically no other choice but to take it in the ass unless they have their operation.

[Cannotresist6]

I wish more tgirls were only bottom. Like escorts that say they are dominant I have to avoid.

[sophiebendable]

I wish more tgirls were only bottom. Like escorts that say they are dominant I have to avoid.

Most are. Like the vast majority. Except those who work in the sex industry. Some escorts and pornstars only bottom in their personal lives, but it seems like many actually enjoy topping men.

I for one don't really feel capable of topping someone (unless I took viagra, and even then it would probably be awkward...). I have often considered escorting, but figured being bottom only would make that impossible. I literally don't think I've ever seen an ad for a ts escort that says bottom only. There just doesn't seem to be any demand for it.

[bluesoul]

There just doesn't seem to be any demand for it.

perhaps the demand for transsexuals who are bottom only is more popular in post-op transsexuals because they can no longer top

[sophiebendable]

perhaps the demand for transsexuals who are bottom only is more popular in post-op transsexuals because they can no longer top

I wasn't aware there were hardly any post-op escorts. If I had a vagina, I would just advertise in the female section and never mention being trans. Non-trans escorts seem to be able to charge much more at the higher end, which is pretty ludicrous to me given how many more there are of them and the fewer services most provide.

[alyssaluxor]

true most ts admirer/chaser clientelle would never hire a bottom only ts girl, thats why most ads of escort are top and versatile because its the one that sells

[MsDazzler]

It is always a huge disappointment when I meet a macho and masculine man off line and he turns out to..... be a bottom

[BBaggins06]

I hate it when I go to my butcher for some top round and when I get home I clearly see it's just bottom round ...

[Bopper007]

I like to do whatever makes my partner happy.

[castor_troyuk]

Thankfully my girlfriend is bottom only, I'm happy to top only

[ZELLGADISS]

ive written dozens of powerbottom topics before saying most TS admirer/chasers are powerbottoms but most guys here think im lying. well at least now they know its true lol

like i said 99.99999999999999% of TS Admirer/Chasers are powerbottom and ultra passive haha ;)
Is bad that guys want to bottom?i dont think it

[aboutthezote]

Having your butt fucked feels awesome, especially but a hot TS. But if she's not into that I'm happy to oblige. Whatever you're comfortable with.

Mind you never having experienced a hard cock in ass feels like missing out to me.

[Rusty Eldora]

The great thing about seeing a TS Escort, particulary a well hung one is being the bottom and also sucking that surprise. In the civilian world I have yet to meet a TS, but I get to do all the work (and be Top) with my gg girlfriend. Yes, we have great sex and great oral.

Since we are paying, we should get what we want.

[MsDazzler]

Is there any predictor marker for a guy who would turn out to be likely a bottom?

[caliuncut]

Most are. Like the vast majority. Except those who work in the sex industry. Some escorts and pornstars only bottom in their personal lives, but it seems like many actually enjoy topping men.

I for one don't really feel capable of topping someone (unless I took viagra, and even then it would probably be awkward...). I have often considered escorting, but figured being bottom only would make that impossible. I literally don't think I've ever seen an ad for a ts escort that says bottom only. There just doesn't seem to be any demand for it.

Sophie - I don't think that's really true. I mean I've never seen an escort for the purposes of being topped. I mean I'm sure if you're versatile in that sense you might get more clients, but by no means are bottoms not desirable. Hell, thats what I look for....there's plenty of guys that dont want to be fucked. Maybe we'll give you a bj...lol

[dgs925]

Is there any predictor marker for a guy who would turn out to be likely a bottom?

He actively seeks out transsexual girls is a pretty good indicator.

[phillyguy21]

It continues to amaze me how the same bigotry that society perpetuates against tgirls is the same bigotry the tgirls project onto "admirers". Misdirected emotion at its best...

[red-cyberman]

I met a friend that I haven't seen in 7 years whom I discovered loves to have sex with married women so I said it's ok and later found out that he also shares a point with me his love for shemales/trannies/tgirls and that he had several sexual encounters with shemales so I asked him to give me some numbers and since I've never been with one and love to be but it's like a fantasy of mine and I want it to be perfect so I called and what surprised me is that most of their clients are married men and most of them are bottoms and some tgirls like to be versatile some bottom only and some top only.
So I think I'm ready for my first adventure but I don't think I will bottom but it's everyone's choice so I don't judge.

[amberskyi]

It continues to amaze me how the same bigotry that society perpetuates against tgirls is the same bigotry the tgirls project onto "admirers". Misdirected emotion at its best...

why would that surprise you lol.maybe you should familiarize yourself with the definition of gender identity disorder.im not saying its right but its to be expected when someone desires to be just a typical woman.they tend to have typical woman views

[MsDazzler]

He actively seeks out transsexual girls is a pretty good indicator.

Hmm, but some guys come here seeking out trans women on this site and they are tops...

but yeah, you are right - as far as I can recall, any guy who was interested in me because I was trans specifcally was because he wanted to bottom. FML lol

[ShitPope]

I have a slightly different perspective on this, I think. First off, I do not consider myself gay even though I have sex with men. This may sound odd, but I am not attracted to men, only women, but that does not prevent me from having sex with them. When it comes to having sex with a man, I only bottom since for me it's basically about being penetrated and getting my prostate massaged. I typically am off in some fantasy while it's happening. I would not top a man, since I have no attraction for them.
I have never been with a tgirl, though it's been a fantasy for some time now. If I were to be with one, I would want to bottom, sure. But I would probably mainly want to top her, since the attraction would be there.
Is any of this making sense?

[MsDazzler]

Lol, no shit, Shitpope. It is getting all convoluted reading your pot. lol

[blckhaze]

While I do think that a "true top" is harder to find, I dont see it as a bad thing. Its all about how that individual man goes about it. There are quite a few more bottom oriented men who simply will have dick in em from any source. Others are pickier (either it be strickly ts or guys, or even strickly females with straps). And the same on the other side of the coin, men who have no pref what hole as long as its a hole thall fit their dcks, others are only attracted to one.
Nowadays people are more able to explore themselves sexually and this leads to the large grey area of versatility. I think most people if on a scale of 1-10 fall somewhere on either the 3 or 7, prefering one role but being open to another. The extremes are far more rare, and usually a facade to hide the fact that they may want it, or even like it.

[Lovecox]

In the end (no pun intended) doesn´t it just come down to two people sharing each other´s bodies for pleasure? Aren´t all other judgements reduced to social roles that probably trace back to our hunter / gatherer ancestors? Can social conventions be left outside the bedroom?

I am attracted to women and transwomen. Why? I don´t know. I don´t bottom. I have tried it and it´s not for me. Will I try it again? I have no idea. Maybe the chemistry will be such with someone where we both want it.

I know many transwomen want a ¨straight¨man. Is that realistic? Is the idea that the man will never know the transwoman was born male? Is it like a hot dog insisting it be eaten only by vegetarians?

My two cents. Sue me.

[MsDazzler]

Lovecox... you mean "straight" or "straight acting" ? There is a distinction between those two. lol...

Do you also think Internet has enabled more "trans-curious" men to realize their fantasies? or has it been the catalyst by exposing more men to trans women because otherwise they might have not been aware of it?

I wonder about young horny teen boys who stumble on porn those days via Internet and especially on their phones, having it 24/7 available... and they see videos of transsexual porn stars at a very young age... :wiggle:

[jaxqt28]

Personally I'm vers. I have a more dominant personality and thoroughly enjoy topping, esp GG's. Topping a beautiful woman is truly enjoyable, regardless of what's between her legs. But with TS, the option to bottom is nice. A GG can't f*ck your ass (or at least do it well). Orgasms from anal stimulation are pretty amazing. Honestly my orgasms from anal stimulation are more intense than f*cking a vagina or an ass. But both are equally fun. So, because of this, it does seem like most guys that like TS are bottoms. </my 2 cents>

[MsDazzler]

I wonder whether post-ops get more "tops" than the pre-ops... because SRS is a viable option that I am considering in the future.

[dezz]

I wonder whether post-ops get more "tops" than the pre-ops... because SRS is a viable option that I am considering in the future.

Most likely. If a man was actively looking to be topped, especially a man looking for a tg top, why would he choose someone who'd have to use a strap-on?
I think part of the reason why so many chasers are bottoms is because anything to do with anal is treated having something to do with homosexuality. I know plenty of gg's who think men who want to fuck them anally are closet homosexuals. So you have a collection of men who are afraid to talk to gg's about wanting to the anal, many of whom are even more afraid still to mention that they want some kind of anal stimulation.
I've never been topped, but I'll admit what anal play I was involved in felt good. It doesn't for everybody, but not every man likes to get his dick sucked either (I know. It sounds crazy to me too)
But really if a man is paying for sex, it's likely for something he can't get any other way he can think of (hence so many bottoms looking for escorts). As for signs a man is a bottom in day-to-day interactions? Shit I don't know, drop something then see how quickly/easily, and in what manner he bends over to pick it up :shrug

[Flaco]

Lovecox... you mean "straight" or "straight acting" ? There is a distinction between those two. lol...

Do you also think Internet has enabled more "trans-curious" men to realize their fantasies? or has it been the catalyst by exposing more men to trans women because otherwise they might have not been aware of it?

I wonder about young horny teen boys who stumble on porn those days via Internet and especially on their phones, having it 24/7 available... and they see videos of transsexual porn stars at a very young age... :wiggle:

I can def relate to this lol, I remember being 13 and stumbling on tranny porn. I was so innocent lol I didn't know I had just discovered a new world entirely...

[Flaco]

Actually now that I'm old (Well, not that old lol) and I think about it, I hope young guys don't discover this kind of porn. It's just too much for a young person to deal with.

[Iainlondon]

I'm top and I cant get my head around guys who want to be fucked by T-girls, makes no sense

[Westheangelino]

I'm top and I cant get my head around guys who want to be fucked by T-girls, makes no sense


Conversely I can't wrap my head around a man wanting a Tgirl and NOT wanting to get drilled. Just go after a gg if all you want to do is top. But that is only my opinion. Instead of judging each other (not saying you were iainlondon) let's just have fun and fuck!

[FreddieGomez]

Conversely I can't wrap my head around a man wanting a Tgirl and NOT wanting to get drilled. Just go after a gg if all you want to do is top. But that is only my opinion. Instead of judging each other (not saying you were iainlondon) let's just have fun and fuck!

And i'll tell you to just get a man if all you want is the dick....

[amberskyi]

And the battle between tops and bottoms continue.this is so lame

[hondarobot]

I suppose a big problem is determining guys who like to bottom, have actually tried to bottom and those who imagine about it. I don't judge.

I've tried to, with a trans girl, and it sucked/didn't happen. It made me appreciate girls ass control better, because it seems like it would hurt like hell.

I understood why girls say "Don't go there". LOL

Too much information I suppose, but a cock in my ass doesn't work for me. I fault no-one for enjoying it though.

[blckhaze]

And the battle between tops and bottoms continue.this is so lame


pretty much
just have sex how u like, leave the bs for another topic

[surfer78]

I have no interest in being a bottom, I'm just not wired that way to be into being on the receiving end of that, but everyone is different. Maybe I am in the minority then, I don't know, but it seems like there are plenty of guys here that are attracted to both genetic and transgender women. I get turned off when I am watching TS porn and the woman starts fucking the guy. I am attracted to the female form, curves, smooth skin, hips, breasts, ass, etc. I'd go down on a transgender woman I was with, but wouldn't want her to fuck me, same as I wouldn't want a genetic woman to put on a strap on and fuck me. I'm writing this because not all guys who are into transgender women are looking to get fucked my them, but if they are I see nothing wrong with that either. We all have our likes, dislikes, preferences, etc. I fins it kind of interesting how quick people are to judge and stereotype others on a site like this, where you'd think the general view would be more tolerant and open-minded!

[MrsKellyPierce]

This battle thing is so silly to me!

Men have three G-Spots - frenulum (under the head), taint (between the asshole and balls), and of course the prostate.

The majority of men attracted to transsexuals identify as straight! Due to the fact they are still attracted to the female form/looks/persona! I also consider most straight with a penis fetish.

Anyways back to the g spots. Sex is supposed to feel good! Not everyone enjoys bottoming, maybe their nerve endings around their asshole don't set off pleasure feelings. Maybe they tried bottoming once and the experience was bad. Maybe they are not comfortable with it and think its not masculine, so it's not a turn on for them. Maybe they have tried it and it was just not their thing or painful every time. There are plenty of men who just like to be in control as well. Bottoming is more a submissive role. Not to say you can't bottom and be dominate, because you very well can.

And I assume guys that say why be with a trans-women if you just want to top, was never with a trans-women who he thought took the dick well or his preference/desire was always to bottom. Plenty of women won't let you fuck them in the ass much less suck dick. So for tops this gives them an outlet of a kinky and open-minded woman!

Now men saying one is more masculine than the other over one topping or not is just silly! A persons sexual desire has little to do w/ how they act outside the bedroom. I know plenty of fem gay boys that top only as well as transsexual women that do too. Too them bottoming has never gotten off by it so its a waste of their time and maybe some our butt lovers.

The men that bottom for ts you will find are very masculine and prefer being a man and being the dominate role in the relationship. A lot of times it's about cumming hard. If anyone has cummed with something in their ass or been with someone that knows how to aim for the prostate knows how freaking pleasurable it can be. I myself when hubby fucks me can cum multiple times when he hits it. It is awesome! But again I have a very sensitive and my arousal and pleasure sensors are high around and in my anus. Not everyone's is the same. That's why almost every guy I've been with had different areas of his dick touched or different ways of jerking dick or riding dick that felt the best for him.

People overthink and get to much in the semantics of straight/gay! I know plenty of women that use strap-ons on their men or finger or lick their ass. Does that mean the guy is gay? Umm no.. It's a pleasurable area and many times a woman who is into that initiates it.

Sex is meant for pleasure and hopefully orgasm. As we know most women never orgasm...poor girls! But it's the exact same why some women orgasm or love sex and others don't! Cause for many their sensory levels aren't as high, plus women think too much during sex. Many need to think like men during it I bet they'd cum that way.

But anyways stop the hate and how one enjoys sex is the best way for them! So why hate??? Cum how you like!

[nysprod]

I agree with pretty much everything you said, Kelly, and I'll add something; there could be a high preference to bottom among men who use TS escorts because if you look at the escort review pages, it seems as if the vast majority are looking for and rating the providers based upon their ability to provide this service.

Granted, it could be that men who strictly top don't tend to write reviews, but based on what's out there this would seem to be true.

[timid1]

Brilliant Kelly , so well thought out! So much of what you put rung true with how I feel.

I hugely respect those who want to do WHATEVER makes them feel great/horny/orgasmic , top,bottom,both with one or more consenting partners.

I feel as "macho" as the next fella, but I'm a bottom . I just am very honest when I speak to the girl to make sure we are both going to enjoy the meet, and there is no disappointment etc.

I have cum with a couple of girls in my arse (not on same night!) the feeling was almost indescribably good , an intensity I've not experienced from straight sex..... although I am still attracted to women too.

Thanks Kelly , I've not known how to answer this post, you said a lot brilliantly xxx

[blckhaze]

Smart woman
for a blonde


This battle thing is so silly to me!

Men have three G-Spots - frenulum (under the head), taint (between the asshole and balls), and of course the prostate.

The majority of men attracted to transsexuals identify as straight! Due to the fact they are still attracted to the female form/looks/persona! I also consider most straight with a penis fetish.

Anyways back to the g spots. Sex is supposed to feel good! Not everyone enjoys bottoming, maybe their nerve endings around their asshole don't set off pleasure feelings. Maybe they tried bottoming once and the experience was bad. Maybe they are not comfortable with it and think its not masculine, so it's not a turn on for them. Maybe they have tried it and it was just not their thing or painful every time. There are plenty of men who just like to be in control as well. Bottoming is more a submissive role. Not to say you can't bottom and be dominate, because you very well can.

And I assume guys that say why be with a trans-women if you just want to top, was never with a trans-women who he thought took the dick well or his preference/desire was always to bottom. Plenty of women won't let you fuck them in the ass much less suck dick. So for tops this gives them an outlet of a kinky and open-minded woman!

Now men saying one is more masculine than the other over one topping or not is just silly! A persons sexual desire has little to do w/ how they act outside the bedroom. I know plenty of fem gay boys that top only as well as transsexual women that do too. Too them bottoming has never gotten off by it so its a waste of their time and maybe some our butt lovers.

The men that bottom for ts you will find are very masculine and prefer being a man and being the dominate role in the relationship. A lot of times it's about cumming hard. If anyone has cummed with something in their ass or been with someone that knows how to aim for the prostate knows how freaking pleasurable it can be. I myself when hubby fucks me can cum multiple times when he hits it. It is awesome! But again I have a very sensitive and my arousal and pleasure sensors are high around and in my anus. Not everyone's is the same. That's why almost every guy I've been with had different areas of his dick touched or different ways of jerking dick or riding dick that felt the best for him.

People overthink and get to much in the semantics of straight/gay! I know plenty of women that use strap-ons on their men or finger or lick their ass. Does that mean the guy is gay? Umm no.. It's a pleasurable area and many times a woman who is into that initiates it.

Sex is meant for pleasure and hopefully orgasm. As we know most women never orgasm...poor girls! But it's the exact same why some women orgasm or love sex and others don't! Cause for many their sensory levels aren't as high, plus women think too much during sex. Many need to think like men during it I bet they'd cum that way.

But anyways stop the hate and how one enjoys sex is the best way for them! So why hate??? Cum how you like!

[zerokool]

Wow, Kelly's response is the best I've ever read on the subject. I just had to bump it so other people could enlighten themselves.

[TSCURIOUS]

I like to bottom, but I like to top
I like to top, but I like to bottom
Point is - that's just my personal preference(s)
I could care less what everyone likes or dislikes for whatever reason but whatever works - do it!
Many here have put too much thought into this subject

[Rusty Eldora]

Thank you Kelly for your spot on post

Does it matter what we like, what is good that we like or love sex. I love oral sex, nearly always going down on my GG partners after sex to take her to a hard climax. For if they had a great time, I will have a great time in a few hours or days. The novelty of sucking cock is great, so many different and unique things - it is a huge turn on to me. Their being feminine to me is very important, if they are not my attraction is lost. It is the fem personality, not appearance that makes a big difference.

That is true for me with all females, I find I like all types from 80 LB to 200 LB, A cup to KK's but my eyes need to tell me "yes", then I can go ahead. If they don't it is disaster.

I love to fuck, but do not find a lot of difference between vag and anal in terms of enjoyment. So being a Top is not a must have in an escort session. However, being a Bottom brings pleasure I have not experienced before and it is incredible. It is why I return.

Seeing TS and GG girls probably pushes me out of straight, into something like Bi but I don't care. If others do not like to Bottom, it is their choice.

[buckjohnson]

I liked Kelly;s response. But still cannot grasp getting fucked in the ass as pleasureable. So I have appreaciated the woman who have allowed me to engage.

[ZELLGADISS]

Kelly Shore is great.
She is very intelligent and with big experience.
It is stupid to tell that somebody is gay because his gf is top being bio girl or ts girl.

[MsDazzler]

So, that pretty much narrows down my pool of the men I would like to date... FML lol

[questioningone]

Thanks, Kelly. This is all great for a rookie to know. :Bowdown: I seem to desire both so your perspective was enlightening. Now, if you'd just show me a thing or two. :praying:



This battle thing is so silly to me!

Men have three G-Spots - frenulum (under the head), taint (between the asshole and balls), and of course the prostate.

The majority of men attracted to transsexuals identify as straight! Due to the fact they are still attracted to the female form/looks/persona! I also consider most straight with a penis fetish.

Anyways back to the g spots. Sex is supposed to feel good! Not everyone enjoys bottoming, maybe their nerve endings around their asshole don't set off pleasure feelings. Maybe they tried bottoming once and the experience was bad. Maybe they are not comfortable with it and think its not masculine, so it's not a turn on for them. Maybe they have tried it and it was just not their thing or painful every time. There are plenty of men who just like to be in control as well. Bottoming is more a submissive role. Not to say you can't bottom and be dominate, because you very well can.

And I assume guys that say why be with a trans-women if you just want to top, was never with a trans-women who he thought took the dick well or his preference/desire was always to bottom. Plenty of women won't let you fuck them in the ass much less suck dick. So for tops this gives them an outlet of a kinky and open-minded woman!

Now men saying one is more masculine than the other over one topping or not is just silly! A persons sexual desire has little to do w/ how they act outside the bedroom. I know plenty of fem gay boys that top only as well as transsexual women that do too. Too them bottoming has never gotten off by it so its a waste of their time and maybe some our butt lovers.

The men that bottom for ts you will find are very masculine and prefer being a man and being the dominate role in the relationship. A lot of times it's about cumming hard. If anyone has cummed with something in their ass or been with someone that knows how to aim for the prostate knows how freaking pleasurable it can be. I myself when hubby fucks me can cum multiple times when he hits it. It is awesome! But again I have a very sensitive and my arousal and pleasure sensors are high around and in my anus. Not everyone's is the same. That's why almost every guy I've been with had different areas of his dick touched or different ways of jerking dick or riding dick that felt the best for him.

People overthink and get to much in the semantics of straight/gay! I know plenty of women that use strap-ons on their men or finger or lick their ass. Does that mean the guy is gay? Umm no.. It's a pleasurable area and many times a woman who is into that initiates it.

Sex is meant for pleasure and hopefully orgasm. As we know most women never orgasm...poor girls! But it's the exact same why some women orgasm or love sex and others don't! Cause for many their sensory levels aren't as high, plus women think too much during sex. Many need to think like men during it I bet they'd cum that way.

But anyways stop the hate and how one enjoys sex is the best way for them! So why hate??? Cum how you like!

[jamie4u]

Great topic. Good discussion.
Personally i love being a bottom. It is best with Dominate Tops that know what they want and enjoy pleasing themselves using me. also love it when an experienced Dom Top pinches my nipples while fucking me.
btw i am in the Phoenix area.

[MsDazzler]

I realize there is only one way to ensure that I am getting 100% tops - getting SRS. lol

Or at least, take my privates out of the equation by making it nonnegoitable since it would be gone. heh

[TSLillyBlue]

I wanted to add that, as a TS escort who advertises bottom only, I am not hurting for work. I don't take calls to top because I'm not into it and if I'm not into my cock doesn't get hard. I get hard for a guy who wants to suck because its more about him wanting to please me and thats sexy. i get very little pleasure from topping guys which is why my function is lacking in that area. I do get tons of calls from guys wanting to be topped but I also get tons of calls from guys who want to fuck me or suck me. It's usually still about the dick either way just some men want the dick one way while others want it another.

When I am traveling and doing incall, I see 3-5 guys a day who either want to suck me or fuck me or both. Some are new and just exploring a sexy transsexuals body is what they need. Some just see me as a pretty girl and want to fuck me regardless of what's between my legs. I would say that my success as a bottom escort says plenty of men who see TS escorts do so for something other than a dick in their ass.

I don't have a problem with it either way, topping is simply a service I can't provide right now so I don't. I would if I could simply to have access to the whole market rather than only what I see as half of it regardless of my preference as this is about the money. That would be a business decision though as its not my particular preference.

[Kire89]

I'm 100% top/insertive/active. I haven't gotten the impression there's a disproportionate amount of bottoms by what I've read on this board so far, but I suppose I'm pretty innocent with respect to what goes on here. :)

[MsDazzler]

I think this website attracts more bottom-type guys than top-type guys due to few factors..

[ChubsterT]

I would almost say i sit on the fence here keeping in mind i am an absolute noob at anal sex.

I prefer giving pleasure in sex than receiving but seeing as that all people are different that means one girl may like taking it and another may like giving it so i would be happy with both.

In terms of what gives me more sexual pleasure i guess i would lean toward giving. :)T

[LOLA LOLITTA]

but be honest every woman check man ass too.I first time look the face than ass.I love when a man has beautiful bubble ass in his pants.But for sure its all your choice if you dont want to be top or not looking for a bottom man.I personaly love versatile relationship
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I am not disaparaging guys who like to bottom and want Tgirls to top them. That is their preference.

However, I constantly seem to get "bottom" types more than "top" types. Are there far more guys who want to bottom than guys who want to top in the TS community?

I know in the gay community, the ratio of bottoms to tops is far skewed and tops are always in demand, lol. Sometimes bottoms have to relcutantly switch to being vers in order to satisfy the other partner they have fallen for and they are bottoms only.

I just would love to find that dream man I want and he is a 100 % top... FML

On a related note, I just don't find asses attractive and when a guy emails me his ass picures upfront, I am instantly turned off. Does any other TG girl feel the same way?

[MacShreach]

I realize there is only one way to ensure that I am getting 100% tops - getting SRS. lol

Or at least, take my privates out of the equation by making it nonnegoitable since it would be gone. heh

I think that is a major factor in many transwomen's decision to proceed with SRS.

[lixx]

In honesty I don't get why TSs complain about this.

Let's cut to the chase. Most men into TSs like TSs' cock, and want to get fucked. Does this make them gay or "lesser men"? I wouldn't say so IMO. I think attraction to TSs is a mixed bag and neither exclusively gay or straight.

That said, I think for the reason above most escorts in most major cities in the world mostly top. I'd imagine top only escorts get the highest client numbers lol..

[lixx]

I think this website attracts more bottom-type guys than top-type guys due to few factors..

I may get flamed for this, but do you hate TSs who identify as gay?

[Teydyn]

I would almost say i sit on the fence here keeping in mind i am an absolute noob at anal sex.
Offtopic, but...

Say hi to TVKim sitting right next to you. :D

[SheWantsTheD]

Ah being a topper... :)
One of the reasons for my great success in this scene!

[Willie Escalade]

Ah being a topper... :)
One of the reasons for my great success in this scene!

Ditto!

[MacShreach]

In honesty I don't get why TSs complain about this.

Let's cut to the chase. Most men into TSs like TSs' cock, and want to get fucked. Does this make them gay or "lesser men"? I wouldn't say so IMO. I think attraction to TSs is a mixed bag and neither exclusively gay or straight.

That said, I think for the reason above most escorts in most major cities in the world mostly top. I'd imagine top only escorts get the highest client numbers lol..
Maybe you should just speak for yourself, hmmmm? I'm not getting into this sad 'lesser men' BS here but it is annoying when pillow-munchers just assume that nobody else can see past cock. Far more men than you evidently think are attracted to TS women and do not 'want to get fucked'. You probably have as much difficulty getting your head around that fact as I do about the fact that some men clearly do.

[natina]

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I am not disaparaging guys who like to bottom and want Tgirls to top them. That is their preference.

However, I constantly seem to get "bottom" types more than "top" types. Are there far more guys who want to bottom than guys who want to top in the TS community?

I know in the gay community, the ratio of bottoms to tops is far skewed and tops are always in demand, lol. Sometimes bottoms have to relcutantly switch to being vers in order to satisfy the other partner they have fallen for and they are bottoms only.

I just would love to find that dream man I want and he is a 100 % top... FML

On a related note, I just don't find asses attractive and when a guy emails me his ass picures upfront, I am instantly turned off. Does any other TG girl feel the same way?

[MacShreach]

That's horrible. Did you have to?

[natina]

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=361468&stc=1&d=1293085586

[MacShreach]

et en revanche...

[MacShreach]

Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, that's better...

[ClareSensual]

On a related note, I just don't find asses attractive and when a guy emails me his ass picures upfront, I am instantly turned off. Does any other TG girl feel the same way?

I love the male ass. The hairier the better. And if it's a bubble butt, all the better. But I what I love is admiring it and rimming him, not penetrating it (except with my tongue).

However, if a guy posts or sends me an ass picture right up front, I'll strongly suspect that he's a bottom.

Yes, I have found that a significant percentage of men into transwomen want to bottom at least some of the time. It's a big part of their fantasy life and I understand that. However, topping is not for me. As a gay boy, I found that when I topped, I was acting out a role and it felt very inauthentic to me. Yes, I felt physical pleasure, but at the same time I felt I was losing something of myself. I felt the opposite when I bottomed . . . total fulfillment and rightness. That is part of what put me on the road to transition when I was in my 20's. I was attracted to straight men and I wanted to have sex with them as a straight woman. Gay men, for the most part, had significantly feminine psyches. I can sense that; it's not just about the body for me. Having that male-female complementarity is huge part of the erotic charge for me, and with a gay man, I feel, ironically, something like a lesbian!! :yingyang:

I see straight guys who want to bottom as having either a simple kink or exploring their own femininity. Sometimes it's both, I think.

However, I did not set out on this path to help these guys out. I just didn't. I transitioned to be a straight woman. I accept that many guys are interested in me because I have a penis in addition to a feminine face and body. That's not the same as being a bottom. I see it as a preference for an unusual type of woman. (Similarly, some guys are into big clits.) Those are the guys I date. I make it clear when I post a Craigslist ad or a personals profile that I am interested in sexually dominant men, i.e. "tops." I also make sure to show my tiny penis and to mention that my testicles have been removed. Most guys tell me it looks something like a very large clit. I have found that this eliminates the bottom boys! :frustrated:

And yet . . . I do love the guys' asses.

[MacShreach]

I love the male ass. The hairier the better. And if it's a bubble butt, all the better. But I what I love is admiring it and rimming him, not penetrating it (except with my tongue).

However, if a guy posts or sends me an ass picture right up front, I'll strongly suspect that he's a bottom.

Yes, I have found that a significant percentage of men into transwomen want to bottom at least some of the time. It's a big part of their fantasy life and I understand that. However, topping is not for me. As a gay boy, I found that when I topped, I was acting out a role and it felt very inauthentic to me. Yes, I felt physical pleasure, but at the same time I felt I was losing something of myself. I felt the opposite when I bottomed . . . total fulfillment and rightness. That is part of what put me on the road to transition when I was in my 20's. I was attracted to straight men and I wanted to have sex with them as a straight woman. Gay men, for the most part, had significantly feminine psyches. I can sense that; it's not just about the body for me. Having that male-female complementarity is huge part of the erotic charge for me, and with a gay man, I feel, ironically, something like a lesbian!! :yingyang:

I see straight guys who want to bottom as having either a simple kink or exploring their own femininity. Sometimes it's both, I think.

However, I did not set out on this path to help these guys out. I just didn't. I transitioned to be a straight woman. I accept that many guys are interested in me because I have a penis in addition to a feminine face and body. That's not the same as being a bottom. I see it as a preference for an unusual type of woman. (Similarly, some guys are into big clits.) Those are the guys I date. I make it clear when I post a Craigslist ad or a personals profile that I am interested in sexually dominant men, i.e. "tops." I also make sure to show my tiny penis and to mention that my testicles have been removed. Most guys tell me it looks something like a very large clit. I have found that this eliminates the bottom boys! :frustrated:

And yet . . . I do love the guys' asses.

Your posts are always interesting. Regarding the 'straight bottoms' (which is as about as close to being an oxymoron as you can get) I think it's very interesting that some of them are also, according to many of the girls who 'take care' of them, themselves cross-dressers, though by no means all.

Whether or not you accept Blanchard's theories of transsexualism, these guys fit slap bang into his definition of autogynephilia. They seem to be using transwomen in order to experience the female sexual role without having to be in bed with a man--which a gay guy would not have any problem with. So these men are not 'gay' in any classic sense. However, they get an erotic hit out of wearing female clothing, they seek to explore their 'female side' , and even wish to experience sex as a woman, but are not attracted to men and instead to women. Classic autogynephiliacs.

As for the other 'bottoms', some probably are nascent gays but the fact that they pretty much all are attracted to femininity makes that a difficult circle to square.

[ClareSensual]

Whether or not you accept Blanchard's theories of transsexualism, these guys fit slap bang into his definition of autogynephilia.

Thank you, MacShreach.

Yes, I certainly do accept Blanchard's theory of autogynephilic v. homosexual transsexuals. I strongly recommend the book, The Man Who Would be Queen, by Michael Bailey, who explores these issues. (It's available on Kindle.)

I agree that many of these guys who want to bottom are on the autogynephilia spectrum. (Not all, though. Some guys just want to be fucked. There's a distinction between that and fantasizing about being a woman.) Certainly, the ones who email me and express an interest in "dressing" with me are autogynephiles. That's why Al Gore invented the delete button.

[ClareSensual]

Again, I'm not judging or condemning the bottom boys. But they need to accept us for who we are. The overwhelming majority of transwomen are bottoms. There is nothing to argue about and no amount of persuasion will change that (at least for those of us who are not sex workers).

[Willie Escalade]

It's both funny and irritating when people assume that since you're into Tgirls you want to only suck cock and get fucked. They always argue that if you don't want to do either why not get with a GG? I have no problems with bottom dudes or those who want to blow; it's just not my thing.

[MacShreach]

Thank you, MacShreach.

Yes, I certainly do accept Blanchard's theory of autogynephilic v. homosexual transsexuals. I strongly recommend the book, The Man Who Would be Queen, by Michael Bailey, who explores these issues. (It's available on Kindle.)

I agree that many of these guys who want to bottom are on the autogynephilia spectrum. (Not all, though. Some guys just want to be fucked. There's a distinction between that and fantasizing about being a woman.) Certainly, the ones who email me and express an interest in "dressing" with me are autogynephiles. That's why Al Gore invented the delete button.
Hi Clare

Yeah I have read TMWWBQ and also recommend it. (In fact Professor Bailey was kind enough to give me a copy. He certainly does not deserve the terrible reputation he has in some quarters; I found him very open and easy to talk to.)

I think your distinction between autogynephiles and men 'who want to be fucked' may be close to my own between autogynephiles and nascent or hidden gays, although the hurdle of their non-attraction to men (or at least claimed non-attraction) remains an issue.

[MacShreach]

It's both funny and irritating when people assume that since you're into Tgirls you want to only suck cock and get fucked. They always argue that if you don't want to do either why not get with a GG? I have no problems with bottom dudes or those who want to blow; it's just not my thing.


On the money as ever, Willie. There definitely does seem to be a kind of clannishness (herd mentality?) amongst them. Some seem to actually resent the fact that not all of us like to do what they do.

Interestingly, you get a very similar group defence reaction amongst autogynephile transsexuals.

[f-finger]

On the money as ever, Willie. There definitely does seem to be a kind of clannishness (herd mentality?) amongst them. Some seem to actually resent the fact that not all of us like to do what they do.

Interestingly, you get a very similar group defence reaction amongst autogynephile transsexuals.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=50661&postcount=12

[ClareSensual]

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=50661&postcount=12

In that 2005 post, MacShreach says he likes the appearance of a dick. He does not say that he likes being fucked by one. And that is a distinction that bottom boys simply do not comprehend. Regular straight guys enjoy seeing a dick on a woman and even playing with it a little without wanting to be fucked by it. Not so mind-blowing, really.

It's not a "gotcha" by any stretch of the imagination. It simply means you don't get it, f-finger.

[Prospero]

What I find stupefying is why so many people get so agitated and upset by what other people enjoy. Live and let live. If you're a top or a bottom or like both or whatever.... why endless debates, rudeness and hostility. Just accept we are all different.

[Ms.Stepford]

I don't get all the shit-talking, at all, but I will say that if someone waved a magic wand and all my clients for the rest of my career were tops, I wouldn't complain at all.

[MacShreach]

In that 2005 post, MacShreach says he likes the appearance of a dick. He does not say that he likes being fucked by one. And that is a distinction that bottom boys simply do not comprehend. Regular straight guys enjoy seeing a dick on a woman and even playing with it a little without wanting to be fucked by it. Not so mind-blowing, really.

It's not a "gotcha" by any stretch of the imagination. It simply means you don't get it, f-finger.

Thanks Clare, it's nice of you to have my back. I still think think a cute little cock can be visually satisfying, and I see nothing in that quote I would change. And in fact I am a (very highly) trained artist, so I have long been used to looking at penises from an aesthetic standpoint and what I said back then goes. After all, my GF has one. And she is very cute.

I am used to the activities of the cockhounds, there's nothing new there. Like I say, their herd defence mentality comes out every time.

People like f-finger will never get it, I'm afraid. He might try reading the first three chapters of Camille Paglia's Sexual Personae...oh sorry. Wrong board.:wiggle:

[Prospero]

You macscreach are also part of a herd mentality from your remark... to brand those different from you as "cockhounds' As i said why not let and live live and do away with the abuse and all this negativity.

[f-finger]

In that 2005 post, MacShreach says he likes the appearance of a dick. He does not say that he likes being fucked by one.
It's not a "gotcha" by any stretch of the imagination.

In that post, he also insinuates he at least touches cocks as well, ain't he talking about tactile sensations and stuff? Very regular straight guy-ish indeed.

What you don't get is, he has this history on this board of copulsory bashing cockhounds, however in this very early post of his he admits enjoying not only the visual sight of a cock.

Projection and overcompensating much?

As for me, what that guy enjoys or not I couldn't care less. It's his hypocrisy that needs to be called out.

[MacShreach]

In that post, he also insinuates he at least touches cocks as well, ain't he talking about tactile sensations and stuff? Very regular straight guy-ish indeed.

What you don't get is, he has this history on this board of copulsory bashing cockhounds, however in this very early post of his he admits enjoying not only the visual sight of a cock.

Projection and overcompensating much?

As for me, what that guy enjoys or not I couldn't care less. It's his hypocrisy that needs to be called out.

Actually, I have never claimed to be completely straight, just 'straight with a twist'. I would stick by that now. I am not attracted to men nor am I interested in being 'topped' but recognise that I am transattracted, and for most of the West, that puts me outside the strictly straight camp. But then, would anyone really want to be in it?

As for the visual sight of a cock, dearie me. Michaelangelo's David, or for that matter Donatello's, Lord I have no idea how many Old Masters... appreciating the human form in all its glory is a part of any decent liberal education. Some people lack that I guess.

And I suspect you are disingenuous; after all, if you 'couldn't care less,' why waste your life trawling (or should that be trolling) up posts made, gosh, eight years ago?

[f-finger]

why waste your life trawling (or should that be trolling) up posts made, gosh, eight years ago?

The "Wasting my life" bit caused me circa 30 seconds. I have a good memory and ran a search on this site.

Admitted though , I am a wee bit bored this afternoon.

[ClareSensual]

Now boys! Stop this now. MacShreach, fuck f-finger and make up.

[MacShreach]

Now boys! Stop this now. MacShreach, fuck f-finger and make up.
Of course.

[amberskyi]

We are bottoms hear us roar lol

[Ryz]

We are bottoms hear us roar lol

Rawr

[sheyum]

"I know many transwomen want a ¨straight¨man. Is that realistic? Is the idea that the man will never know the transwoman was born male? Is it like a hot dog insisting it be eaten only by vegetarians?"


Thats absolutely hillarious--and spot on!!
a hot dog wanting to be eaten only by vegetarians

i hate t be judgemental--really I do..
but T-girls who hate on bottoms are complete assholes...there--I said it.
Its fine if they PREFER to be bottoms..and are not into/looking for bottom guys..
thats just a matter of personal preference...but to talk DOWN to a guy because he wants to get fucked...is the most absurd thing ive ever heard of..
and constitutes ASSHOLE behavior...sorry Amber..i dont want to hear about gender confusion or whatever you called it...I UNDERSTAND this as a real thing --of course--but one also has to use his/her BRAINS too..
calling guys who want Tgirls to fuck them,,is asshole behavior...

ill go one step further....I --like many others..am suspicous about guys who love to assert how they would "never let anyone touch their assholes" and proclain their heterosexuality-because the only like to TOP T-Girls...Again..I'm sure they exist..and that some guys legitimately dont like to bottom (i dont personally GET IT---but i can accept it as a choice)
but a few guys on this board profess too loudly..

I consider myself straight...but if i want to fuck a girl...i would fuck a GG...for obvious reasons..
to ask "why most tranny lovers like to bottom?"--is a totally rhetotrical question..

[amberskyi]

Lol! y'all should start a movement.
The equal rights and social expansion of bottom men.
Make signs, start petitions, make buttons!! Take it to the streets!!! "what do we want? COCK when do we want it? NOW"
seriously dude no one cares what you do in your bed or with your ass.i was expressing humor, get a sense of one.

[ClareSensual]

We need to hear this again:

Boy Is A Bottom - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kqobQRcUo)

[MacShreach]

We need to hear this again:

Boy Is A Bottom - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kqobQRcUo)
lol so true

[BellaBellucci]

Tops only, please!

While it took me some time to find a partner good enough to show me the joys of receiving anal, I only tried at all because I never wanted to top. As has been said by someone else in this thread, SRS has an extra 'pro' on its list in that nobody will ever ask me to top them again!

I can't wait! I didn't become a woman to be forced to play 'the man.'

~BB~

[MDinMD]

Bella, it's definitely possible for a GG to top a man - so those request may not stop! I'm versatile, and prefer girls who are, too - but some of the best moments I've ever had have been with GG/TGs who were and are bottom-only.

[bluesoul]

"I know many transwomen want a ¨straight¨man. Is that realistic? Is the idea that the man will never know the transwoman was born male? Is it like a hot dog insisting it be eaten only by vegetarians?"


Thats absolutely hillarious--and spot on!!
a hot dog wanting to be eaten only by vegetarians

i hate t be judgemental--really I do..
but T-girls who hate on bottoms are complete assholes...there--I said it.
Its fine if they PREFER to be bottoms..and are not into/looking for bottom guys..
thats just a matter of personal preference...but to talk DOWN to a guy because he wants to get fucked...is the most absurd thing ive ever heard of..
and constitutes ASSHOLE behavior...sorry Amber..i dont want to hear about gender confusion or whatever you called it...I UNDERSTAND this as a real thing --of course--but one also has to use his/her BRAINS too..
calling guys who want Tgirls to fuck them,,is asshole behavior...

ill go one step further....I --like many others..am suspicous about guys who love to assert how they would "never let anyone touch their assholes" and proclain their heterosexuality-because the only like to TOP T-Girls...Again..I'm sure they exist..and that some guys legitimately dont like to bottom (i dont personally GET IT---but i can accept it as a choice)
but a few guys on this board profess too loudly..

I consider myself straight...but if i want to fuck a girl...i would fuck a GG...for obvious reasons..
to ask "why most tranny lovers like to bottom?"--is a totally rhetotrical question..

you make a good argument sir. i tip my hat to you

[BellaBellucci]

Bella, it's definitely possible for a GG to top a man - so those request may not stop! I'm versatile, and prefer girls who are, too - but some of the best moments I've ever had have been with GG/TGs who were and are bottom-only.

Ahh. The 'strap-on argument.' My only question is: is that gay? I mean, anal stimulation is one thing, but in my opinion, a man demanding that a woman give it to him in the style of a man is about as gay as it gets. And as such, I would have -ZERO- interest in him sexually.

~BB~

[SheWantsTheD]

We need to hear this again:

Boy Is A Bottom - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0kqobQRcUo)

Fucking awesome! I just woke up and this just made my day haha!

[danthepoetman]

This debate again, huh? I have come to be a bit tentative when it comes to intervening in these. It’s strange to me that we guys would be perceived as affirming a little bit too strongly our preference for topping, sometimes, as Sheyum said, because on the contrary, every time I see one guy saying he only wants to top, he immediately gets a load of shit from some members, who obviously feel threatened by that. It’s up to the point where we would almost rather stay silent on the subject. And often, it’s not just some disagreement, it’s literally hysteria. Yet it’s not like anyone here is brandishing any sign to tag as “fags” guys who bottom. Similarly, when a guy shows appreciation for “shemales” with big cocks that penetrates guys, he’s not the immediate object of criticism, from what I can see. Of course, this is all purely a matter of preference, there’s no denial from anyone about this.
Then again I must admit it might be a matter of perception.

That transsexual women would not feel particularly enthusiastic about topping men shouldn’t be surprising to anyone, it seems to me: they are women! they were born in the wrong body and pursue with all their energy for a good portion of their lives the goal of finally adjusting their physique to their sense of identity. Why would it be so difficult to understand that cocking someone is not their number one fantasy? And how in hell does that make them assholes to express it? I can’t wrap my head around your logic on this, Sheyum…
The idea of a transsexual woman with a big cock that gets hard looking at men and wants to fuck them is obviously a fantasy, is it not? It’s the Japanese futanari, which doesn’t have anything to do with reality! Yet it seems that it is what many members here are seeking in t-girls. I don’t have anything against fantasies, of course, but at some point, you have to distinguish them from reality, especially in a forum where you engage these women in discussions and exchanges of ideas. It’s just a matter of basic respect. No?

Of course, there’s nothing wrong for a man to have the desire to be penetrated. Nothing. Anyone who act or talk to the opposite is prejudiced, in my view. I think we have to respect everybody’s desires and tastes. As to the labels “homo” and “hetero” sexual, gay or straight, I think they’re not relevant anymore. I think we should get rid of them.
Yes, I have the tendency to “feel” that the desire to be penetrated is “gay”, but at the same time, the fact that I would find some of the people who’s pics are posted in HA’s pages, like for instance Stas Fedyanyn, a male model (not transitioning) who works as female like Andrej Pejik, and whom has given me a good deal of hard-ons, might be seen as totally gay by some tiers. At some point it’s only a matter of perception, and in the context of our society, the diversity is such that those concepts now have a somewhat elastic significance. They’re used most often to offend rather than define a behaviour construct which is more and more difficult to circumscribe. In other words, the real problem in our society is the acceptance of all sexual practices, homo and hetero, without any prejudice. It seems to be getting in the way of any debate on this question in this forum, as if everything had to be tainted by it, and I deplore that.
By saying we are tops, bottoms or versatile, we’re simply stating our tastes and likings. Imo, we should all respect one another. As Prospero once said very intelligently, whatever we feel, we’re all part of the same community just by our simple presence on this site.
Btw, here's a pic of Fedyanyn, here with another male model, Yegor Vorobyov...

[lixx]

This debate again, huh? I have come to be a bit tentative when it comes to intervening in these. It’s strange to me that we guys would be perceived as affirming a little bit too strongly our preference for topping, sometimes, as Sheyum said, because on the contrary, every time I see one guy saying he only wants to top, he immediately gets a load of shit from some members, who obviously feel threatened by that. It’s up to the point where we would almost rather stay silent on the subject. And often, it’s not just some disagreement, it’s literally hysteria. Yet it’s not like anyone here is brandishing any sign to tag as “fags” guys who bottom. Similarly, when a guy shows appreciation for “shemales” with big cocks that penetrates guys, he’s not the immediate object of criticism, from what I can see. Of course, this is all purely a matter of preference, there’s no denial from anyone about this.
Then again I must admit it might be a matter of perception.

That transsexual women would not feel particularly enthusiastic about topping men shouldn’t be surprising to anyone, it seems to me: they are women! they were born in the wrong body and pursue with all their energy for a good portion of their lives the goal of finally adjusting their physique to their sense of identity. Why would it be so difficult to understand that cocking someone is not their number one fantasy? And how in hell does that make them assholes to express it? I can’t wrap my head around your logic on this, Sheyum…
The idea of a transsexual woman with a big cock that gets hard looking at men and wants to fuck them is obviously a fantasy, is it not? It’s the Japanese futanari, which doesn’t have anything to do with reality! Yet it seems that it is what many members here are seeking in t-girls. I don’t have anything against fantasies, of course, but at some point, you have to distinguish them from reality, especially in a forum where you engage these women in discussions and exchanges of ideas. It’s just a matter of basic respect. No?

Of course, there’s nothing wrong for a man to have the desire to be penetrated. Nothing. Anyone who act or talk to the opposite is prejudiced, in my view. I think we have to respect everybody’s desires and tastes. As to the labels “homo” and “hetero” sexual, gay or straight, I think they’re not relevant anymore. I think we should get rid of them.
Yes, I have the tendency to “feel” that the desire to be penetrated is “gay”, but at the same time, the fact that I would find some of the people who’s pics are posted in HA’s pages, like for instance Stas Fedyanyn, a male model (not transitioning) who works as female like Andrej Pejik, and whom has given me a good deal of hard-ons, might be seen as totally gay by some tiers. At some point it’s only a matter of perception, and in the context of our society, the diversity is such that those concepts now have a somewhat elastic significance. They’re used most often to offend rather than define a behaviour construct which is more and more difficult to circumscribe. In other words, the real problem in our society is the acceptance of all sexual practices, homo and hetero, without any prejudice. It seems to be getting in the way of any debate on this question in this forum, as if everything had to be tainted by it, and I deplore that.
By saying we are tops, bottoms or versatile, we’re simply stating our tastes and likings. Imo, we should all respect one another. As Prospero once said very intelligently, whatever we feel, we’re all part of the same community just by our simple presence on this site.
Btw, here's a pic of Fedyanyn, here with another male model, Yegor Vorobyov...

Or it's that the tops like to condemn the bottoms.

You know, there are are who think liking TSs period is gay. And some who think that men who overly profess to be tops when fucking TSs are attempting to prove something...

[lixx]

I don't get all the shit-talking, at all, but I will say that if someone waved a magic wand and all my clients for the rest of my career were tops, I wouldn't complain at all.

you're the one who is selling sex. It's like somebody owning an alcohol store, yet complaining that people only buy beer and not wine. Do you also think most guys into TSs don't want cock? If so, you're being naive lol..

Also, if most TSs here hate gays, then do they hate other TSs who identify as gay? lol..

[danthepoetman]

Or it's that the tops like to condemn the bottoms.

You know, there are are who think liking TSs period is gay. And some who think that men who overly profess to be tops when fucking TSs are attempting to prove something...
That's precisely what I'm saying in my post, lixx! Read it again. You're pointing finger, and that's beyond the point. What do you care if tops "are attempting to prove something"? How do you know? You're the one who's feeling threatened, here, isn't it obvious enough? And it's ridiculous! It doesn't have any kind of purpose to say something like that. If you like to bottom, I respect your choice. I realise there is a lot of pressure in our society against what is percieved as marginal sexual activities, but once again, that's what I'm saying: there's hardly any such thing anymore!

[MacShreach]

That's precisely what I'm saying in my post, lixx! Read it again. You're pointing finger, and that's beyond the point. What do you care if tops "are attempting to prove something"? How do you know? You're the one who's feeling threatened, here, isn't it obvious enough? And it's ridiculous! It doesn't have any kind of purpose to say something like that. If you like to bottom, I respect your choice. I realise there is a lot of pressure in our society against what is percieved as marginal sexual activities, but once again, that's what I'm saying: there's hardly any such thing anymore!
I have a confession to make, Dan. I agree with everything you say on this page. Gottdamn!

[nysprod]

This debate again, huh? I have come to be a bit tentative when it comes to intervening in these. It’s strange to me that we guys would be perceived as affirming a little bit too strongly our preference for topping, sometimes, as Sheyum said, because on the contrary, every time I see one guy saying he only wants to top, he immediately gets a load of shit from some members, who obviously feel threatened by that.


Or it's that the tops like to condemn the bottoms.

You know, there are are who think liking TSs period is gay. And some who think that men who overly profess to be tops when fucking TSs are attempting to prove something...

Hey Dan, nice to see you again.

I'm top only, but I'm not trying to prove anything...it's a sexual preference and if I thought I could get off on bottoming, I definitely would do it.

In general, from what I've seen here, top and bottom guys are like oil and water.

[lixx]

That's precisely what I'm saying in my post, lixx! Read it again. You're pointing finger, and that's beyond the point. What do you care if tops "are attempting to prove something"? How do you know? You're the one who's feeling threatened, here, isn't it obvious enough? And it's ridiculous! It doesn't have any kind of purpose to say something like that. If you like to bottom, I respect your choice. I realise there is a lot of pressure in our society against what is percieved as marginal sexual activities, but once again, that's what I'm saying: there's hardly any such thing anymore!

lol.. no. I was responding since you said men here who like to top are vilified. Well, maybe they are because of how they express their points. As I said prior, if being a bottom is gay, then liking TSs per se can be gay too (quite a few would say it is). What is better or worse, and who can say it is? I do think that some tops are only so since to them it seems more "manly", but again some say that fucking anybody with a cock is gay...

I'm not really threatened, if people are offended at others' choices/likes that's their own business. I do think it's hypocrisy though that many on this thread would baulk in horror and injustice if some oppressed them, yet they choose to oppress others lol.. Is that comment too low? Maybe. But I think it's a valid comment nonetheless.

[lixx]

Ahh. The 'strap-on argument.' My only question is: is that gay? I mean, anal stimulation is one thing, but in my opinion, a man demanding that a woman give it to him in the style of a man is about as gay as it gets. And as such, I would have -ZERO- interest in him sexually.

~BB~

I may get flamed for this, but it's a free country lol..

As you're a TS, why do you condemn gays when both of you are marginalised in society? I'm sure there are some gays who consider TSs freaks just as much as TSs consider gays freaks lol..

[nysprod]

I may get flamed for this, but it's a free country lol..

As you're a TS, why do you condemn gays when both of you are marginalised in society? I'm sure there are some gays who consider TSs freaks just as much as TSs consider gays freaks lol..

A lot of TS girls don't like gays because they know gays are not attracted to them and a lot of gays don't like TS girls on any level, even just to be friends...the newer generation at least know how to party with each other in the clubs.

[amberskyi]

I'm super gay friendly....i absolutely live for the children (gay slang)

[nysprod]

I'm super gay friendly....i absolutely live for the children (gay slang)

You're newer generation.

[amberskyi]

I don't think it's a trans vs gay thing.
I think it's younger generations (all people included straight, gay, bi, black, white, etc and etc) are just more tolerant and open minded.i personally can't wait for the older generations to die out and take their oppressive, close minded influence with them :)

[Tits McButts]

There's crap slung from both sides. Tops can't get away with stating our opinion without a bottom whining about it. When a bottom discusses their preferences, tops complain as well.

I agree with Dan; It's a preference, not a defensible position. It's a little peculiar when a top posts in a thread that's obviously for bottoms - not to state their opinion, but to defend it. Generally, I think it's probably good to know that a group of admirers aren't about the role-reversal fantasy, but outside of a little recognition, what's the point of even bringing it up if not to cause conflict?

On the flip-side, bottoms tend to get a little defensive about their preference because it *should* be acceptable to openly talk about that around here. Many of them don't have anywhere else to discuss it. The few that are agape about it (lol [okay, that's a stretch of the definition of the word]) don't want it seen as a taboo by society anymore. Personally, I'm kind of sick of that mess, too; but whether or not they want to label it - their fight is with society's view of gay culture, not tops.

I just found cat hair in my weed. Moving along... as tops that are admittedly trans-attracted, we should be well past the point of equating gay with bad. The homophobic stain on society wouldn't condone our preferences either. It's equally as important for both types of admirers to disassociate negativity and gay culture; except for gay pride parades. Those things are ridiculous. :P

[MacShreach]

I don't think it's a trans vs gay thing.
I think it's younger generations (all people included straight, gay, bi, black, white, etc and etc) are just more tolerant and open minded.i personally can't wait for the older generations to die out and take their oppressive, close minded influence with them :)
Oi! You watch it with the age-ism, pretty girl xxx :cool:

Sadly, though, you got a point there.

[MacShreach]

There's crap slung from both sides. Tops can't get away with stating our opinion without a bottom whining about it. When a bottom discusses their preferences, tops complain as well.

I agree with Dan; It's a preference, not a defensible position. It's a little peculiar when a top posts in a thread that's obviously for bottoms - not to state their opinion, but to defend it. Generally, I think it's probably good to know that a group of admirers aren't about the role-reversal fantasy, but outside of a little recognition, what's the point of even bringing it up if not to cause conflict?

On the flip-side, bottoms tend to get a little defensive about their preference because it *should* be acceptable to openly talk about that around here. Many of them don't have anywhere else to discuss it. The few that are agape about it (lol [okay, that's a stretch of the definition of the word]) don't want it seen as a taboo by society anymore. Personally, I'm kind of sick of that mess, too; but whether or not they want to label it - their fight is with society's view of gay culture, not tops.

I just found cat hair in my weed. Moving along... as tops that are admittedly trans-attracted, we should be well past the point of equating gay with bad. The homophobic stain on society wouldn't condone our preferences either. It's equally as important for both types of admirers to disassociate negativity and gay culture; except for gay pride parades. Those things are ridiculous. :P

I totally agree with that, and I have no issues with gay men or women at all.

[Tits McButts]

I wish more tgirls were only bottom. Like escorts that say they are dominant I have to avoid.

You know; many of them might be perfectly happy not being dominant for a change. The worst outcome is that you get hung up on. :shrug

[nysprod]

I don't think it's a trans vs gay thing.
I think it's younger generations (all people included straight, gay, bi, black, white, etc and etc) are just more tolerant and open minded.i personally can't wait for the older generations to die out and take their oppressive, close minded influence with them :)

That what you think, huh (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=77902)?

[MacShreach]

You know; many of them might be perfectly happy not being dominant for a change. The worst outcome is that you get hung up on. :shrug
That's good advice. I am not in the p4p market at present, but when I have been (and if I am again in the future) I just make it clear how I want things to go right up front. I have never actually had a girl insist on 'topping' but if one did I would move on with a smile. I am really only attracted to very feminine, obviously hormonal girls though so my sample is skewed.

[lixx]

lol.. It's not defensiveness (which is not a bad thing anyhow, who doesn't defend their own interests in life?)

It's that in threads like these, tops often come in and say how they're not gay or less gay for not taking it in the ass, as if they have something to prove by saying and being that lol... people may dismiss that, but I think that is a motivation. i do find though that many people here like to dismiss others' likes. look, if you don't like TSs or find them attractive, then don't post. it's that simple.

[Tits McButts]

lol.. It's not defensiveness (which is not a bad thing anyhow, who doesn't defend their own interests in life?)

It's that in threads like these, tops often come in and say how they're not gay or less gay for not taking it in the ass, as if they have something to prove by saying and being that lol... people may dismiss that, but I think that is a motivation. i do find though that many people here like to dismiss others' likes. look, if you don't like TSs or find them attractive, then don't post. it's that simple.

You're agape.
http://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Beavis-and-Butthead.jpg

[MacShreach]

lol.. It's not defensiveness (which is not a bad thing anyhow, who doesn't defend their own interests in life?)

It's that in threads like these, tops often come in and say how they're not gay or less gay for not taking it in the ass, as if they have something to prove by saying and being that lol... people may dismiss that, but I think that is a motivation. i do find though that many people here like to dismiss others' likes. look, if you don't like TSs or find them attractive, then don't post. it's that simple.Duuuuh and your point? I like TSs and I find some incredibly attractive. I wouldn't be here otherwise. Or do you mean something else?

[danthepoetman]

I have a confession to make, Dan. I agree with everything you say on this page. Gottdamn!
lol Yes, I suppose there is a level of irony, there, but I must say that I greatly appreciate most of what you're posting, MacShreach, your intelligence and your eloquence.

[danthepoetman]

lol.. It's not defensiveness (which is not a bad thing anyhow, who doesn't defend their own interests in life?)
It's that in threads like these, tops often come in and say how they're not gay or less gay for not taking it in the ass, as if they have something to prove by saying and being that lol... people may dismiss that, but I think that is a motivation. i do find though that many people here like to dismiss others' likes. look, if you don't like TSs or find them attractive, then don't post. it's that simple.
Come on, Lixx, you're missing all points by a mile, here! Are you even reading the posts? You're not even making sense anymore. Or are you just quibbling for the sake of it?

[Ms.Stepford]

you're the one who is selling sex. It's like somebody owning an alcohol store, yet complaining that people only buy beer and not wine. Do you also think most guys into TSs don't want cock? If so, you're being naive lol..

Hey, I love my job as it is. I just wouldn't be disappointed if guys only ever wanted to go down on me and fuck me.

[nysprod]

Hey, I love my job as it is. I just wouldn't be disappointed if guys only ever wanted to go down on me and fuck me.

What's the percentage breakdown of tops and bottoms, in your experience?

[moonman]

personally i'd never bottom, i like TS women because they are feminine, i don't care whats between their legs, But TS women topping isn't very feminine IMO, I'm not saying its a bad thing or wrong, I'm just not into that. i do feel like there are more guys that wish to bottom than top, but its becoming more common that guys are having their gg girlfriends to top them with a strap-on, so i guess more and more guys are starting to have those urges and TS women are their preference instead of a gg with a strap-on or another guy. i never really put that much thought into it, but thats my piece :geek:

[BellaBellucci]

I may get flamed for this, but it's a free country lol..

As you're a TS, why do you condemn gays when both of you are marginalised in society? I'm sure there are some gays who consider TSs freaks just as much as TSs consider gays freaks lol..

The answer is in your question: they do consider us freaks. There's no solidarity there at all. And there's nothing wrong with being gay. It's the denial and self-repression with which I have a problem.

~BB~

[danthepoetman]

The answer is in your question: they do consider us freaks. There's no solidarity there at all. And there's nothing wrong with being gay. It's the denial and self-repression with which I have a problem.

~BB~
:iagree:

[steeveX]

A dude bottoming for a tranny isn't gay. He is submissive. A dude who licks pussy is as well a bottom, so is a dude in the sub role with a female domme.

In my observation, trannys saying dudes who bottom are gay, are very often not the most passable ones. It appears to me they are overcompensating for that fact.

[MacShreach]

A dude bottoming for a tranny isn't gay. He is submissive. A dude who licks pussy is as well a bottom, so is a dude in the sub role with a female domme.

In my observation, trannys saying dudes who bottom are gay, are very often not the most passable ones. It appears to me they are overcompensating for that fact.


Once I stop laughing I will address this. OK. In what bizarre parallel universe does performing cunnilingus make a man a 'bottom'? Jeez. That is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard here, and it suggests plenty about your attitudes towards sex, female genitalia and probably women.(I mean, I'm supposing that the length of your presence here indicates that you're not in fact 13.)

I don't care what you do. It's your thing, do it. The nature of the free market is that there will always be women prepared to indulge you.

Just please please please stop trying to include me and men like me. OK?

[starkem]

I always find reading this proper protocol of bottom guys and transgenderism a fascinating read.

I fantasize as being the bottom both with gg and TG. It helps my masturbation. (smile). I have never experienced either scenario (bottoming for gg or tg) in real life. I find the actualization of the fantasy rather daunting and valueless, because most people (male, female transgender, or otherwise) would react with negativity and condemnation towards me for such an inclination. (shrugs)

However, topping does not make you a man or even qualify as being engaged in a "manly" activity, as similarly relative: srs, clothing or declarative convictions make you male or female -nor does it make you gay or staright, or real or fake, confused or in denial. Those seem rather subjective and arbitrarily concluded as being indisputable truths. Both our syntax and convictions, and they are limited in this respect.

It would be too simplistic a plea for me to want to be accepted as such. "if I do this only...or if don't do this" you must accept me as ____. To be self defined in spite of judgments from society is sufficient satisfaction of motive, opportunity and preference. We are all a lot less gay and heterosexual than we perceive or tolerate, trust me. (smile). Motive, opportunity and preference are more accurate at defining the person without personal judgment.

All of the passionate responses from various perspectives objectively translate like this for me. I do have to fair with the pro "chaser/bottom boy" faction by guilt of association (wink). I think some of the things said about us are unfair, but they don't see as we do. Equally, it can be said of how we as a group see others as well. No one has to accept it. We only need accept ourselves. Society, on the other hand may take much longer to perceive. Fortunate are the young at heart that approach everything with an open mind.

I try to initiate discussion and begin with a proposition that engages thought. But I will curse you out too. :praying: No one is above that. How else should these passionate debates unfold.

[danthepoetman]

:puke
:puke
Sorry, I've drank too much whisky...

[Ryz]

There are gay men who are top only. Doesn't necessarily mean they're straighter because they don't take it in the ass :/

[Ryz]

A dude bottoming for a tranny isn't gay. He is submissive. A dude who licks pussy is as well a bottom, so is a dude in the sub role with a female domme.

In my observation, trannys saying dudes who bottom are gay, are very often not the most passable ones. It appears to me they are overcompensating for that fact.

I agree 100%

[danthepoetman]

There are gay men who are top only. Doesn't necessarily mean they're straighter because they don't take it in the ass :/

You are right, Ryz, as often. Forgive the gross top that I am. This is all about feelings and behavior, and everybody should be respected. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

[Amy Gray]

You know it's funny, I'm usually versatile with a strong preference for bottoming but over the past couple months something with my sex drive has changed and I've been really getting a itch to pound something into the floor. Like, not gentle love making sex but using their hair as a handhold while screaming "whose the bitch?!" kind of sex. I guess that'd be a bit funny considering I barely come up to most men's shoulders.

The thing that annoys me is that while there are TONS of men who want to bottom... few of them have actually stuck anything IN their bottom. Seriously, it is tedious breaking a ass in because You keep having to stop, ease it in, let them adjust, pull out a little, etc. I'm all for hearing someone beg but when they start complaining that I'm going too hard, that's a turn off.

[Rusty Eldora]

You know it's funny, I'm usually versatile with a strong preference for bottoming but over the past couple months something with my sex drive has changed and I've been really getting a itch to pound something into the floor. Like, not gentle love making sex but using their hair as a handhold while screaming "whose the bitch?!" kind of sex. I guess that'd be a bit funny considering I barely come up to most men's shoulders.

The thing that annoys me is that while there are TONS of men who want to bottom... few of them have actually stuck anything IN their bottom. Seriously, it is tedious breaking a ass in because You keep having to stop, ease it in, let them adjust, pull out a little, etc. I'm all for hearing someone beg but when they start complaining that I'm going too hard, that's a turn off.

Because they are a wuss. Strong men should let their Tgirls fuck them silly

[STARTUP999]

"...Its tedious breaking in ass..."

One of the reasons I first got into TGs was the lack of GG's who would let me anal. But the ones who did I enjoyed their gradual acceptance of me inside them. It built up trust that I respected their limits. On every occasion I ended up banging them it just took a little while getting there but it was worth it.

[danthepoetman]

You know it's funny, I'm usually versatile with a strong preference for bottoming but over the past couple months something with my sex drive has changed and I've been really getting a itch to pound something into the floor. Like, not gentle love making sex but using their hair as a handhold while screaming "whose the bitch?!" kind of sex. I guess that'd be a bit funny considering I barely come up to most men's shoulders.
The thing that annoys me is that while there are TONS of men who want to bottom... few of them have actually stuck anything IN their bottom. Seriously, it is tedious breaking a ass in because You keep having to stop, ease it in, let them adjust, pull out a little, etc. I'm all for hearing someone beg but when they start complaining that I'm going too hard, that's a turn off.
Considering how tiny you are, Amy, this is almost funny. I can't even imagine any guy who respects himself not wanting to do all kind of stuff to you, sweetie! I just can't imagine any of them wanting to get... fucked by you? Naw! You're way too cute!!

[RallyCola]

"...Its tedious breaking in ass..."

One of the reasons I first got into TGs was the lack of GG's who would let me anal. But the ones who did I enjoyed their gradual acceptance of me inside them. It built up trust that I respected their limits. On every occasion I ended up banging them it just took a little while getting there but it was worth it.

i've never had that issue. anal sex has never been off limits with any girl i dated...it is all about the approach. if you start off with a lovely rim job and fingering, you'll be in that ass in minutes.

[king sun]

I will have to admit that I've been wanting to bottom more as of late, now that doesn't make me a weaker man but gives me more options sexually. But it all depends on the person you are with, GG,TG or a man.

[kilgorerobert81]

I want both I'm vers but I would date a ts who was all bottom or couldn't get hard . Be awesome if she could bit not a deal changer. I like to bottom and suck

[kilgorerobert81]

Well miss Amy I'll be your bottom any day