Jamie French, Eva Cassini, Tiffany Starr robbed at gun point.

[SammiValentine]

Listen I didn't post the this thread or ask for any donations. I also fought the guy with the gun and did my best to protect my own property. We have enough money or at least I do and i'm glad your all so concerned that my brain is still in my head instead of stupid donations. Don't associate me with any kind of money grubbing or deception of fans on here because i work very hard and ask for very little more so than most girls on this board

tbh I think there are plenty of girls who work hard and dont beg for money and your just in the same boat hun, not a seperate ship.

[Tiffany Starr]

tbh I think there are plenty of girls who work hard and dont beg for money and your just in the same boat hun, not a seperate ship.

I fully understand that. I wasn't saying all the girls. just a few I know personally that don't share the hard working boat. I love and thank everyone that understands but I don't like being accused of mistreating people when i work so hard to please them. Porn stars are not stars without their fans IMO.

[Ryz]

lol @ the donation. A+ thread. Would laugh again

[SammiValentine]

I fully understand that. I wasn't saying all the girls. just a few I know personally that don't share the hard working boat. I love and thank everyone that understands but I don't like being accused of mistreating people when i work so hard to please them. Porn stars are not stars without their fans IMO.


Ok hun fair enough x, its just not what your post implied as suich, so I just wanted to clarify.

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Cant we all just get along.

[GrimFusion]

Listen I didn't post the this thread or ask for any donations. I also fought the guy with the gun and did my best to protect my own property. We have enough money or at least I do and i'm glad your all so concerned that my brain is still in my head instead of stupid donations. Don't associate me with any kind of money grubbing or deception of fans on here because i work very hard and ask for very little more so than most girls on this board

The initial post said nobody was hurt. I can't speak for everyone, but a lot of people have already said they're extremely relieved that neither you, Eva, or Jamie were hurt. You have most of our condolences on the incident itself. The only person around here sporting a "shit happens. I don't care" attitude is RallyCola. Nobody is claiming that any of you didn't do enough or could have done more to avoid the situation.

We have been lumping you three together in the "donation" deal, and I realize that's not really fair. It's just easier than singling any one of you out and turning this into a very personal attack. There's an unspoken pecking order around HA and those of us that realize the way it works frankly don't want to attack her directly. It's Jamie's reputation that's in question, but it is a little ridiculous that it's still a focus of forum conversation nearly a week later. I can see why you'd be a little pissed for being painted a target in a debate this petty, working to defuse the situation and being called a money-grubber as thanks, and because you have to watch a friend of yours be bad-mouthed by people who likely know her less than you do.

I get it. Unfortunately, I doubt our opinions are going to change. The best we can all hope for is that this shit fizzles out and drops off the second page of forum listings. Before it does, I'd love to see somebody step up and defend Jamie's character since she doesn't feel the need to explain herself in the midst of a forum full of users soured over her recent behavior. That's probably not going to happen, though.

[loveboof]

lol.. I sense a disturbance in the force!

(smh Prospero)

[EvaCassini]

Ive made a cpl posts defending Jamie. I dont know about Tiff but Jamie and I dont make lots of money, we dont have money saved up for boob jobs like we would like to. Jamie hasnt said anything else because she doesnt want to have to spend all day on here arguing with people who we dont even know, and frankly dont know US at all, literally.
Jamie has got alot on her mind right now. Her brother is in the hospital still sedated even after a week due to getting into an almost fatal car accident and getting brutally injured. She and I were the first on the scene ( the night of the robbery ) and have been going up to the ICU every day. Thats a big reason why we arent on here "defending" or "arguing" or "stating a point".

The only thing she wanted from this thread is perhaps some nice people could help us out. With her brother in the hospital, Jamie and I have had to turn down several "appointments" and we've lost ALOT of time "making money", and havent been able to get on camsites either.
Tonight is the first time I'll be back on cam since that night. Keep in mind that I was on cam ( chaturbate ) when the guy came in here with the gun to my neck. Approx 100 people saw it, before the guy hit the cam with the barrel of the gun turning the cam to face the ceiling.
Seanchai only gave us that opportunity AFTER he read this thread ( we never asked, he offered to help ), which is all we wanted from anyone, a little help. And we are very appreciative.
So I hope that clears anything up...hopefully, but I know that these thread posts are just going to trickle in and perhaps never stop, because everyone has to put in their two cents. I just wanted to state some facts. Thank you.

[GrimFusion]

Ive made a cpl posts defending Jamie. I dont know about Tiff but Jamie and I dont make lots of money, we dont have money saved up for boob jobs like we would like to. Jamie hasnt said anything else because she doesnt want to have to spend all day on here arguing with people who we dont even know, and frankly dont know US at all, literally.
Jamie has got alot on her mind right now. Her brother is in the hospital still sedated even after a week due to getting into an almost fatal car accident and getting brutally injured. She and I were the first on the scene ( the night of the robbery ) and have been going up to the ICU every day. Thats a big reason why we arent on here "defending" or "arguing" or "stating a point".

The only thing she wanted from this thread is perhaps some nice people could help us out. With her brother in the hospital, Jamie and I have had to turn down several "appointments" and we've lost ALOT of time "making money", and havent been able to get on camsites either.
Tonight is the first time I'll be back on cam since that night. Keep in mind that I was on cam ( chaturbate ) when the guy came in here with the gun to my neck. Approx 100 people saw it, before the guy hit the cam with the barrel of the gun turning the cam to face the ceiling.
Seanchai only gave us that opportunity AFTER he read this thread ( we never asked, he offered to help ), which is all we wanted from anyone, a little help. And we are very appreciative.
So I hope that clears anything up...hopefully, but I know that these thread posts are just going to trickle in and perhaps never stop, because everyone has to put in their two cents. I just wanted to state some facts. Thank you.

You know, if I had known all that mess a week ago I probably just would have kept my mouth shut.

[TS Evelyn Summers]

* Yawn*.........


Eva...You just need to get ur a$$ to Vegas so I can marry you....and give you the life you deserve :)



xoxo

[BellaBellucci]

* Yawn*.........


Eva...You just need to get ur a$$ to Vegas so I can marry you....and give you the life you deserve :)



xoxo

Muahahaha! :dead:

~BB~

[GrimFusion]

Ive made a cpl posts defending Jamie. I dont know about Tiff but Jamie and I dont make lots of money, we dont have money saved up for boob jobs like we would like to. Jamie hasnt said anything else because she doesnt want to have to spend all day on here arguing with people who we dont even know, and frankly dont know US at all, literally.
Jamie has got alot on her mind right now. Her brother is in the hospital still sedated even after a week due to getting into an almost fatal car accident and getting brutally injured. She and I were the first on the scene ( the night of the robbery ) and have been going up to the ICU every day. Thats a big reason why we arent on here "defending" or "arguing" or "stating a point".

I caught your post just before I stepped out for a smoke. I feel like a huge turd now.
I think I have a relatively better understanding of why Jamie's been kinda off her rocker lately. Sorry I held this whole thing against the two of you, but without any of this information it did kinda look like you two just had your hands out for no good reason. Enough excuses from me, though. I apologize for whatever it's worth. I hope Jamie's brother recovers quickly and I offer my condolences. After the two of you get back on track so-to-speak and have a little extra time to spare, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to get to know a few people around HA so stupid shit like this doesn't happen again.

[loveboof]

Jamie has got alot on her mind right now. Her brother is in the hospital still sedated even after a week due to getting into an almost fatal car accident and getting brutally injured. She and I were the first on the scene ( the night of the robbery ) and have been going up to the ICU every day.

The only thing she wanted from this thread is perhaps some nice people could help us out. With her brother in the hospital, Jamie and I have had to turn down several "appointments" and we've lost ALOT of time "making money", and havent been able to get on camsites either.


Do you accept cheques? :whistle:

[BellaBellucci]

We never did get a police report, even though it was promised. Also, this can't really be verified either. Plus, Tiffany seems to be keeping her distance from the whole miserable scene and Jamie and Eva are madly in love or something, so it makes sense that they'd corroborate each other.

I still detect an acute victim complex here.

~BB~

[bottomXOslave]

Like I always girlfriends , " till I don't see proof with my own eyes I don't believe ".

[GrimFusion]

We never did get a police report, even though it was promised. Also, this can't really be verified either. Plus, Tiffany seems to be keeping her distance from the whole miserable scene and Jamie and Eva are madly in love or something, so it makes sense that they'd corroborate each other.

I still detect an acute victim complex here.

~BB~

I just figure that after four donation posts and accepting an advance off of Seanchai, considering all the drama these posts have stirred up, they'd be risking far too much if this does turn out to be a huge lie. Their career reputations would be ruined, their reputations within the community would be ruined, and the only option left would be lowly cam shows on unaffiliated websites. It'd basically fuck their cash flow from here on in, so until there's evidence that does contradict everything they've said, I'm willing to give them all the benefit of doubt.

[BellaBellucci]

I just figure that after four donation posts and accepting an advance off of Seanchai, considering all the drama these posts have stirred up, they'd be risking far too much if this does turn out to be a huge lie. Their career reputations would be ruined, their reputations within the community would be ruined, and the only option left would be lowly cam shows on unaffiliated websites. It'd basically fuck their cash flow from here on in, so until there's evidence that does contradict everything they've said, I'm willing to give them all the benefit of doubt.

You give people FAR too much credit. They overlook whatever they want, depending upon to whom it refers. And since nobody can prove that anybody lied, it will always just be a doubt and nothing more... and I never said otherwise. However, there are plenty of girls who have resorted to more desperate schemes than this in the past. I don't think the repercussions would be nearly as severe as you think. :lol:

~BB~

[GroobySteven]

http://www.trannyawards.com - Febuary.
A weekend of parties and the chance to meet many of the girls and guys from here. We keep it priced as low as we can (no more than a club night) and the invitation is open to ALL current members of this forum.

[BellaBellucci]

http://www.trannyawards.com - Febuary.
A weekend of parties and the chance to meet many of the girls and guys from here. We keep it priced as low as we can (no more than a club night) and the invitation is open to ALL current members of this forum.

Nice segue. ;)

~BB~

[Genetic]

I just don't understand why anyone would go to gun point. People always get robbed there.


Badoom tish.

[bluesoul]

Again, I ask, 'Why do YOU feel the need to post a negative response to a simple request for some help?' If you don't believe the OP, then don't respond at all and let the thread die a slow and painful death.

sometimes posting something negative goes some way into informing how the consensus feels. for example: if i started a thread and nobody contributed, i might be inclined to bump it, or start a similar thread phrased different. but if everyone made it clear how they felt about said thread, i might reconsider ever posting something like that again.


OK... one more and then I'm really cutting myself off.


you should have replied to the one which was quoted in red and had one (of the three) trannies bragging about how they don't have to work a day in their life because they were the highest paid editor for grooby.

even gandhi couldn't damage control that one :dancing:

[EvaCassini]

Hey Bella, i am pretty sure you can see this....I did say I'd post the police report and when we have it in our hands, we will post it. You should know well, that the Law can be a bitch to wait for, i.e name change, gender marker change, divorce, child custody, police reports, etc...so don't fret, it will be posted!
Oh and btw Everyone else....Ever since Bella found out Jamie and I started dating, she's been nothing but a beast to us, honest!
This is how it all started ---
I used to talk with Bella on a pvt FB tgirl network page, and I asked her for some help. Didn't have anyone else to talk to. So I told her I want to enter the porn business and how would I get started. She referred me to Tiffany Starr and Jamie French in Arlington TX. After a tussle with my previous career path ( truck driving ), I decided to get in contact with Tiffany.

After talking with her for about a week, her and I decided that I would come up on a Friday, spend a cpl days there and have a "date" (this was about 2 months ago ). So, I came up to Arlington, hung out for a few days, finally realizing the background of Tiffany and Jamie, ( that they just broke up because Tiff went against a rule they had and Jamie and I have currently, "no pay, no way") Trying to cope with this situation, I smoke! And the only place to smoke in the apartment, that's right, Jamie's room! So those who smoke can understand where I am going with this. When 2 or more people are near eachother smoking, they talk, get to know eachother.

So we talked, Jamie had beef to pick with Tiff about cheating and after that argument, I decided I didn't want to date Tiff, and ( earlier that day, they mentioned that Jamie could shoot a set for me for shemaleyum, I agreed, cuz its something I really wanted to do) then shot a set for shemale yum, you know the one...it got me Model of the Month ( Thank you btw ).

Then after the shoot, Jamie and I talked more and more and soon began to fall for each other, thus starting our relationship.

A few days later, Bella FB chatted me and asked how the shoot and the date turned out...I told her I was very happy how things turned out ( albeit, it was a very awkward week ) and that Jamie and I started dating. Bella flipped out, because even though Bella never once met Jamie in person, she has this undying grudge for Jamie. Jamie told me the honest truth about the dealings with Bella, the communication between them was only via "COMPUTER TALKING", i.e forum boards, email, FB chat, and then I made my own decision.

I decided to continue dating Jamie, because she is a beautiful, intelligent, witty, talented and honest girl, and to disregard any Bella out of my life, because she literally snapped the moment I told her I started dating Jamie.

There you go in a nutshell. That's why every post made by Bella, in regards to us are nasty, unwanted, rude, crude, and lude behavior. There are others as well, in high positions, that don't care for Bella either because of the way she is. This I really wanted to make clear to EVERYONE! Thankx, much love, Eva.

P.S. Grim- you are a good man, thank you.

[BellaBellucci]

Hey Bella, i am pretty sure you can see this....I did say I'd post the police report and when we have it in our hands, we will post it. You should know well, that the Law can be a bitch to wait for, i.e name change, gender marker change, divorce, child custody, police reports, etc...so don't fret, it will be posted!
Oh and btw Everyone else....Ever since Bella found out Jamie and I started dating, she's been nothing but a beast to us, honest!
This is how it all started ---
I used to talk with Bella on a pvt FB tgirl network page, and I asked her for some help. Didn't have anyone else to talk to. So I told her I want to enter the porn business and how would I get started. She referred me to Tiffany Starr and Jamie French in Arlington TX. After a tussle with my previous career path ( truck driving ), I decided to get in contact with Tiffany.

After talking with her for about a week, her and I decided that I would come up on a Friday, spend a cpl days there and have a "date" (this was about 2 months ago ). So, I came up to Arlington, hung out for a few days, finally realizing the background of Tiffany and Jamie, ( that they just broke up because Tiff went against a rule they had and Jamie and I have currently, "no pay, no way") Trying to cope with this situation, I smoke! And the only place to smoke in the apartment, that's right, Jamie's room! So those who smoke can understand where I am going with this. When 2 or more people are near eachother smoking, they talk, get to know eachother.

So we talked, Jamie had beef to pick with Tiff about cheating and after that argument, I decided I didn't want to date Tiff, and ( earlier that day, they mentioned that Jamie could shoot a set for me for shemaleyum, I agreed, cuz its something I really wanted to do) then shot a set for shemale yum, you know the one...it got me Model of the Month ( Thank you btw ).

Then after the shoot, Jamie and I talked more and more and soon began to fall for each other, thus starting our relationship.

A few days later, Bella FB chatted me and asked how the shoot and the date turned out...I told her I was very happy how things turned out ( albeit, it was a very awkward week ) and that Jamie and I started dating. Bella flipped out, because even though Bella never once met Jamie in person, she has this undying grudge for Jamie. Jamie told me the honest truth about the dealings with Bella, the communication between them was only via "COMPUTER TALKING", i.e forum boards, email, FB chat, and then I made my own decision.

I decided to continue dating Jamie, because she is a beautiful, intelligent, witty, talented and honest girl, and to disregard any Bella out of my life, because she literally snapped the moment I told her I started dating Jamie.

There you go in a nutshell. That's why every post made by Bella, in regards to us are nasty, unwanted, rude, crude, and lude behavior. There are others as well, in high positions, that don't care for Bella either because of the way she is. This I really wanted to make clear to EVERYONE! Thankx, much love, Eva.

P.S. Grim- you are a good man, thank you.

OK there, Encyclopedia Bellatanica, first of all, I'm upset with Jamie because her attitude online SUCKS these days. If you've never read the rest of the thread outside of my comments, I think you might want to go ahead and do that before you allege that I'm off-base here. Furthermore, I have my own issues with Jamie, regardless of whether or not we've met.

First of all, I didn't 'flip out' because you were dating Jamie; I got upset that you started dating Jamie and then started being shady towards me. That was uncalled for since all I did was try to help you out, but alas, no good deed goes unpunished. Secondly, Jamie was promoting Grooby in a trans group with MANY underage transsexuals. Strike two. Strike three was her contradictory behavior here: one day claiming to have more money and guns than she needs, and the next claiming to be a victim of gun violence who, instead of going to her boss for an advance in the first place, came here to panhandle upon her first opportunity. All of this shows terrible taste and ambiguous ethics.

I know not everyone likes me because I wield more perceptive ability and moral influence than they would like, and I'm not ignorant of the fact that I can be judgmental, but I'm no hypocrite. If I see bullshit, I call it out, as people have done towards me as well, and I've stood my ground or capitulated when I was wrong. I'm also quite aware of the fact that it makes me an easy target for scapegoating, to which I reply again: woman the fuck up and blame your own damn selves.

Go ahead and post the report, but as has been said, it still doesn't technically prove anything either, and that's not really my issue here anyway. My issue is with people who act like bullies and then feel entitled to charity. But more importantly, this had nothing to do with me until you brought it here and made it public, being obtusely self-contradictory in the process. You should have posted this on your Facebook pages and kept HA out of it. It's not industry news that you got robbed; it's a plea for money and sympathy you don't deserve.

~BB~

[EvaCassini]

Yes, Jamie does get good money for her editing, but the traffic of work has slowed A LOT this year. She hasn't been getting anything to edit for a while. Because, as far as content for a website goes, a webmaster only puts new content up if there needs to be new content, usually the lot of content that's been saved up for a long while by the webmaster, was work done by Jamie and they don't require her to edit any more for the time being, due to the saved up material.
My first Grooby set was completely edited by Jamie before she sent it in to Grooby. But it still took TWO months to be posted, because of the backtracked content prior, that needed to be posted before mine.

Otherwise, Jamie's only other source of income is "appointments" and cam shows....and in light of all that has happened, her and I have not been able to get anything done. We've had to turn down several clients and we haven't touched the cam since that night. Tonight will be the first client Jamie's gotten in a long while and also tonight is the first night i get back on cam. SO there you go, now you know, and knowing is half the battle...G.I. JOE!!!! Thankx , much love - Eva



you should have replied to the one which was quoted in red and had one (of the three) trannies bragging about how they don't have to work a day in their life because they were the highest paid editor for grooby.

even gandhi couldn't damage control that one :dancing:

[loveboof]

I like Bella! She always seems decent to me. I almost certainly don't agree with everything she says (*cough* star signs *cough* lol), but she's pretty cool beans in my book...

Personally, I don't get good vibes off Jamie tho... but that's just me (and I don't know her at all - so it's wayyy harsh)

[doctor screw]

#teambella

[bluesoul]

Yes, Jamie does get good money for her editing, but the traffic of work has slowed A LOT this year. She hasn't been getting anything to edit for a while. Because, as far as content for a website goes, a webmaster only puts new content up if there needs to be new content, usually the lot of content that's been saved up for a long while by the webmaster, was work done by Jamie and they don't require her to edit any more for the time being, due to the saved up material.
My first Grooby set was completely edited by Jamie before she sent it in to Grooby. But it still took TWO months to be posted, because of the backtracked content prior, that needed to be posted before mine.

Otherwise, Jamie's only other source of income is "appointments" and cam shows....and in light of all that has happened, her and I have not been able to get anything done. We've had to turn down several clients and we haven't touched the cam since that night. Tonight will be the first client Jamie's gotten in a long while and also tonight is the first night i get back on cam. SO there you go, now you know, and knowing is half the battle...G.I. JOE!!!! Thankx , much love - Eva

couldn't you get an advance for some of the suckers... i mean, "appointments"? like, spot me $500 and i'll owe you a blow and a bag of dorritos on your next visit?

[natina]

go to

VICTIMS OF CRIME

at the citys attorneys office or police department

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/

[EvonRose]

Yeah, that's not even feasible for most of us, but I think she was specifically talking to film stars and escorts who have trouble saving up their money.

Yes I am,
Lots of pornstars and escorts are higher paid than normal folks...
and if you are sharing rent with 2 other girls, your rent is only 1/3... So i don't see why you can't be saving up 25 or at least half of your salary...

[EvaCassini]

When Bella first contacted me after that week with Jamie and Tiff, i was busy working on something at the moment and could only supply her with short answers. She got pissy because I only typed "yes" and "no" type one worded answers to answer her questions.

Then she rushed to some stupid paranoid conclusion, then immediately went offline...i tried sending her some messages to explain and wonder why she got off in such a hurry but she never did respond back to me. She's the one who starting saying nasty things about me and Jamie. Like I said, even some "high up" people dont like her because of the way she is.
Jamie and I never met her in person, so we dont know eachother very well, except from what Bella and I talked about prior to getting in touch with Tiff and Jamie. I dont know why people I've never met personally, have to make it so FN hard on others, maybe for their own entertainment, because their lives suck. Jamie and I have a great relationship, I love her, and professionally, we work very well with each other.

Oh and btw....I know the reason Jamie doesn't come on here anymore ( the same reason why Bailey Jay, Sarina Valentina, Kimber James and Danielle Foxx dont come on here ) They don't want to deal with ALL THE BULLSHIT and GOSSIP and MUDSLINGING. Plus Jamie doesn't need to be on here anymore, she now has a team of grooby people to promote her content, unlike myself, hence why I still post here, and try to rectify shit that got blown waaaaaaay too FN far...
So, all my fellow humans, you can take what I said as the truth ( which, why would I have to lie ), or continue trying to get nowhere in debunking the truth. This forum isn't "ghost hunters", its a way to get truthful information out to the public. Otherwise, why would any model come on here and say "I have a new set out, check it out" and then when you go check it out, theres no content...I just dont understand why anyone would come on here and lie.... Thanks - Eva


P.S. Why would we come on here and tell a lie? I just got into the industry, WHY THE FUCK would i want to ruin my reputation........think about that.

How about this,......Once i post the police report, and you all see it......let this die. There should be no more reason to post anything anymore. We got the help needed, the only reason why you all keep seeing this thread is because people keep posting on it and sending it right back to the top.

[danthepoetman]

go to

VICTIMS OF CRIME

at the citys attorneys office or police department

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/
Eva, why don't you try what Natina has been suggesting a few times? I'm sure they could help, at least a little...

[bluesoul]

[B]P.S. Why would we come on here and tell a lie? I just got into the industry, WHY THE FUCK would i want to ruin my reputation........think about that.

for the same reason you choose to get into pornography instead of say... dentistry or teaching?

[Quiet Reflections]

I just dont understand why anyone would come on here and lie
You don't know why people lie on the internet?

[EvaCassini]

Because not only do we have current bills and expenses.....

Me- I have aloooooot of debt, debt I got myself into when i was young and dumb in the Navy, and also paying back family who've helped me out when I was in need.
Jamie- Jamie has her own debts.
Tiffany- dont know alot about her past but what i do know is that she has most everything handed to her. Out of the 3 of us, she has no adult worries and concerns like Jamie and I have to deal with...She is in her own little world.

P.S. Unless you know us PERSONALLY, please don't make accusations or assumptions.




Yes I am,
Lots of pornstars and escorts are higher paid than normal folks...
and if you are sharing rent with 2 other girls, your rent is only 1/3... So i don't see why you can't be saving up 25 or at least half of your salary...

[EvaCassini]

I just noticed this, like i said we havent been on here for a bit in light of whats happened. But thank you, I will check it out.




Eva, why don't you try what Natina has been suggesting a few times? I'm sure they could help, at least a little...

[bottomXOslave]

Bitch you just want your boobies !!! Lol

[danthepoetman]

I just noticed this, like i said we havent been on here for a bit in light of whats happened. But thank you, I will check it out.
Good luck in everything, Eva, to all 3 of you. Hope Jamie's brother gets better.

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Just come to Vegas Eva!!!!!!! You seem like the PERFECT catch!

[natina]

its three (3) of them
they could get up to about
$75,000.00/person/incident, thats $150,000.00 for the three (3) of them.

I think its up to $98,000.00/incident/person now.


Eva, why don't you try what Natina has been suggesting a few times? I'm sure they could help, at least a little...

[natina]

I know of many transsexual living in Hollywood who have 5 or six people living with them and they do not have a car or very many clothes.
even though they are good looking and have a nice figure they are not rolling in the $$$$ dollars. many nights I see them with the same clothes on.

on Santa Monica near the fat burger I see this Latina TS who looks like a woman without much effort. this TGIRL has mostly Caucasian customer who pay them to do all sorts of things. they are busy but there rent is pretty high also. a studio place over there without a bedroom cost $900.00 + without utilities.I think a one bedroom would cost $1200-$1800 plus.
I know of a TS that pays over $6500/month to rent a luxury apartment in Encino CA but they do TS strip party's and use to produce/distribute movies.

MANY ESCORTS OR NOT FINANCIALLY DOING WELL,THATS JUST AN OLD BELIEF


OH GOOD LORD. Where in God's green earth was it stated that the $550.00 was the entire rent amount? Wouldn't it be more realistic to say... three people living together... $550.00 is probably a THIRD of the rent?

You people speculating and making a joke of all this is just tasteless. I sincerely hope that when the point comes, as it inevitably will, that you need some help, either emotionally or monetarily, in your own life, you find much more compassion than is found here.

I started by saying I wasn't going to interject myself into this thread but these posts are getting sillier and sillier.

Anyway, I've said my thoughts and I'm out of this thread now. Jamie, Eva, Tiffany, best wishes and I hope this all gets sorted out for you.


go to

VICTIMS OF CRIME

at the city's attorneys office or police department

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/


its three (3) of them
they could get up to about
$75,000.00/person/incident, thats $150,000.00 for the three (3) of them.

I think its up to $98,000.00/incident/person now.

[loveboof]

Jamie doesn't need to be on here anymore, she now has a team of grooby people to promote her content, unlike myself, hence why I still post here

Eva, you won't get anywhere if you don't respect your fans. The people who are members here don't want to hear that you only care about promoting yourself to them. They want to get to know you - and feel like they're closer to you in some capacity. They do not want to be treated like walking bucks, or 'tricks', or any other dehumanising term you ladies want to cook up. It's pretty obvious really. Anyone who comes on here just to push their shit without even trying to fake other kinds of interaction are not going to be as well received as those who share in the community (even in small ways).



How about this,......Once i post the police report, and you all see it......let this die. There should be no more reason to post anything anymore. We got the help needed, the only reason why you all keep seeing this thread is because people keep posting on it and sending it right back to the top. [/B]

The Police report won't change the main objection to this thread which was the way it was portrayed to us and the purpose behind it. If you want to live your life in the limelight like an open wound, then don't be surprised if a little lime juice stings once in a while!



Tiffany- dont know alot about her past but what i do know is that she has most everything handed to her. Out of the 3 of us, she has no adult worries and concerns like Jamie and I have to deal with...She is in her own little world.


I'm pretty sure she won't appreciate the way you worded all of that! lol

Weren't you just saying something about gossip and bitchiness?

[EvonRose]

Because not only do we have current bills and expenses.....

Me- I have aloooooot of debt, debt I got myself into when i was young and dumb in the Navy, and also paying back family who've helped me out when I was in need.
Jamie- Jamie has her own debts.
Tiffany- dont know alot about her past but what i do know is that she has most everything handed to her. Out of the 3 of us, she has no adult worries and concerns like Jamie and I have to deal with...She is in her own little world.

P.S. Unless you know us PERSONALLY, please don't make accusations or assumptions.

I am not making assumptions and never accused anyone... But personally if you cannot come up with the 550 I think its time to retract to a different career...

Or at least get a good finance planner, or something... this is sad! I am sure you three are wonderful women and are responsible. You can't rely on HA on people to donate to you all the time, but if it works thats fine, but if being robbed of 550 is the biggest finance loss in your life and can't deal with it without the help of other people then gotta find an alternative. I know many ts below 25 including myself that don't have debt, and a stable income and back up plans just IN CASE!

[Steve-Oh]

The whole fucking breaking and entering and gun-to-the head has got to be very traumatizing.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Best of luck & stay safe.

[EvaCassini]

OMFG, everyone is taking things out of context, this is the last post im making on this subject , i cant stand it anymore. I have only pointed out FACTS, ive already stated we got the money situation handled, things ive said about Tiffany are things we all ( me, jamie and tiffany ) have talked about, we live together, we talk, we know eachother, tiff has heard us say these things to her face. Ive only stated facts and told the story of how things have been and are. Context people, context. When you place things out of context, their relevance is gone. Thanks....I am going to post a new thread about a lighter subject.......

[Brian Bi Model]

OMFG, everyone is taking things out of context, this is the last post im making on this subject , i cant stand it anymore. I have only pointed out FACTS, ive already stated we got the money situation handled, things ive said about Tiffany are things we all ( me, jamie and tiffany ) have talked about, we live together, we talk, we know eachother, tiff has heard us say these things to her face. Ive only stated facts and told the story of how things have been and are. Context people, context. When you place things out of context, their relevance is gone. Thanks....I am going to post a new thread about a lighter subject.......

Sounds like a good plan Eva. Hope all things are well with you gals down in Texas. You gals will be up and back on your feet in no-time. All the best :)

[Deimos]

I'm glad someone is.
the part that amuses me is the sheer lack of mutual respect people have for each other.

i don't pretend to understand... :confused:

[GrimFusion]

I am not making assumptions and never accused anyone... But personally if you cannot come up with the 550 I think its time to retract to a different career...

Or at least get a good finance planner, or something... this is sad! I am sure you three are wonderful women and are responsible. You can't rely on HA on people to donate to you all the time, but if it works thats fine, but if being robbed of 550 is the biggest finance loss in your life and can't deal with it without the help of other people then gotta find an alternative. I know many ts below 25 including myself that don't have debt, and a stable income and back up plans just IN CASE!

Whaaaaat? lol.


the part that amuses me is the sheer lack of mutual respect people have for each other.

i don't pretend to understand... :confused:

You don't need to.
Some people extend respect until a person isn't worth respecting.
Some people extend none and expect respect to be earned.
Wax on, wax off.
Pfft, whatevah.

[Tyler___Durden]

Enjoy these while they last 'small breast' fellas... they will soon be B's - maybe C's. Though, no bigger than that. Don't freak out.

To be honest I feel bad for them if they've been robbed, but I think it's a bit skanky to beg for handouts.
You almost got enough for a boob job, then you can afford your rent! End of...

Police report will be in our hands in a couple days, it WILL be posted.
Contrary to popular belief, we don't make glamour, movie star money even though we work our arses off on a daily basis...modeling, photographing, recording video, editing, eating right, traveling long distances, and looking our best...
so when we ASK for help...we literally mean, we really would appreciate assistance to continue giving you what you want from us, without struggle...so that you can enjoy the product we happily and proudly provide for you.

So you guys never considered using surgery money for rent? Really?!
The bullshit alarm is simply deafening today.
~BB~

We barely have any money you jackass. Bella, your opinions arent wanted. You are a completely oblivious person in our lives. If you dont know how we are struggling then you must be well off, cuz we aint well off.
Police report will be posted for everyone to see ....Bella how can you be so cruel, you rotten stoned out bitch.

That's not what Jamie said, you jackass. Eva, your neediness isn't wanted. You are a completely useless person in my life. If you don't know how I am struggling, then you must be self-centered, 'cuz I ain't well off.
I don't care about your police report. Eva, how can you be so narcissistic, you two-faced, selfish bitch?
~BB~

I dont know about Tiff but Jamie and I dont make lots of money, we dont have money saved up for boob jobs like we would like to.you.

We never did get a police report, even though it was promised. Also, this can't really be verified either.
~BB~
But you said you didn't care about the police report.
If you didn't mean it, you shouldn't have said it.
You can't take it back. (http://tinyurl.com/zceoh) :party:

[Prospero]

Isn't it time this thread was laid to rest?

[Tyler___Durden]

And on Whoring and incomes.
Things are tough for many Escorts over the last couple of years.
Needing to work harder, smarter, have slicker marketing, just to earn the same as a few years ago.
Escort friends concur.
Plus on an 'Escort-only' board I frequent (mainly Bio-women Escorts)
a multitude of comments from a vast range of people, echo this too.
Yes the rates are ridiculously high per hour when you are working. But often this is not consistent.
But the flip side to this is that you can go from zero to hero in one day.
As in: Earn a months rent in one day. (And that's if you live alone and have sole responsibility for said rent)
Divided by three people, it's less than a mornings work.

[Tyler___Durden]

Flip side to this. Anyone whose name is not: Jamie, Eva or Tiffany.
If you had just been robbed at gunpoint. Had your life threatened;
how easy would you find it to go back to work?
Be that driving a cab, an office job that where your journey home involves walking down a dark ally from the train station,
or an estate agent where you accompany clients (strangers (http://tinyurl.com/bo4s5n7)) around properties you are trying to rent or sell.
Now magnify that a dozen times if your job involves sex with strangers. And the fact that compared to a Bio-female Escort, a trans escort is many times more likely to die at the coal face, so to speak. Seanchai's other (non-porn) site (http://www.grooby.com/fallenangels/) emphasises this.
Ironically, a number of the poster on this board, over the years,
will die violently.
Sobering stuff.

[Willie Escalade]

Flip side to this. Anyone whose name is not: Jamie, Eva or Tiffany.
If you had just been robbed at gunpoint. Had your life threatened;
how easy would you find it to go back to work?
Be that driving a cab, an office job that where your journey home involves walking down a dark ally from the train station,
or an estate agent where you accompany clients (strangers (http://tinyurl.com/bo4s5n7)) around properties you are trying to rent or sell.
Now magnify that a dozen times if your job involves sex with strangers. And the fact that compared to a Bio-female Escort, a trans escort is many times more likely to die at the coal face, so to speak. Seanchai's other (non-porn) site (http://www.grooby.com/fallenangels/) emphasises this.
Ironically, a number of the poster on this board, over the years,
will die violently.
Sobering stuff.
I used to drive the bus for the city of Los Angeles. Believe me, drivers can and have been robbed, beaten, etc. wi that job you're pretty much on your own. I was never physically assaulted, but I was spat on. So I do in a way know how it is working with the public and not knowing what to expect.

[Cecil Rhodes]

P.S. Why would we come on here and tell a lie? I just got into the industry, WHY THE FUCK would i want to ruin my reputation........think about that.

Sounds like something THE PHANTOM SHITTER would say when caught leaving the scene of an attack

How about this,......Once i post the police report, and you all see it......let this die. There should be no more reason to post anything anymore. We got the help needed, the only reason why you all keep seeing this thread is because people keep posting on it and sending it right back to the top.

Post the CRN and i can confirm it

[Cecil Rhodes]

I used to drive the bus for the city of Los Angeles. Believe me, drivers can and have been robbed, beaten, etc. wi that job you're pretty much on your own. I was never physically assaulted, but I was spat on. So I do in a way know how it is working with the public and not knowing what to expect.

Get off of it Willie . We all know how ELITE transit workers are . That is why they wear BERETS .

[Cecil Rhodes]

Yes, Jamie does get good money for her editing, but the traffic of work has slowed A LOT this year. She hasn't been getting anything to edit for a while. Because, as far as content for a website goes, a webmaster only puts new content up if there needs to be new content, usually the lot of content that's been saved up for a long while by the webmaster, was work done by Jamie and they don't require her to edit any more for the time being, due to the saved up material.
My first Grooby set was completely edited by Jamie before she sent it in to Grooby. But it still took TWO months to be posted, because of the backtracked content prior, that needed to be posted before mine.

Otherwise, Jamie's only other source of income is "appointments" and cam shows....and in light of all that has happened, her and I have not been able to get anything done. We've had to turn down several clients and we haven't touched the cam since that night. Tonight will be the first client Jamie's gotten in a long while and also tonight is the first night i get back on cam. SO there you go, now you know, and knowing is half the battle...G.I. JOE!!!! Thankx , much love - Eva

Oh, Shit Eva just had to bring G.I. Joe into it . If they are around, then COBRA has to be involved somehow . Damn, COBRA is worse than Roaches, School Lunch, The Albanian Mafia, MREs, YUGOs, THE PHANTOM SHITTER with Diarhia, Faygo Soft Drinks, Joannie Loves Chachi, Al Bundy's Foot Odor, Cop Rock and Payless Shoes combined .

[Tyler___Durden]

Isn't it time this thread was laid to rest?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Unless you can jump-start the Martina Rolex thread. (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=69046) :whistle:

[danthepoetman]

Tyler, Cecil, you’re both friends, and I love exchanging with you! You’re fun and witted! But I tend to agree with Prospero, here. We all said what we had to say. Why don’t we all leave these girls alone? This has been looking, for a while now, like a “forum lynching”, or at best like an episode of “Jerry Springer”… No? Just a suggestion, my friends…

[Cecil Rhodes]

i was just commenting on the comments . currently though, i am attempting to resurrect the rolex thread

[Tyler___Durden]

We never did get a police report, even though it was promised. Also, this can't really be verified either.
~BB~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdZKCh6RsU

Not really adding to the debate, I just love this scene, and it was a (tentative) link....:whistle:

[danthepoetman]

i was just commenting on the comments . currently though, i am attempting to resurrect the rolex thread


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdZKCh6RsU

Not really adding to the debate, I just love this scene, and it was a (tentative) link....:whistle:
Lol lol lol :)

[Cecil Rhodes]

ok, let's get with the program

Darth Schwarzenegger -Original- - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKEg6fJ-7P4&feature=player_detailpage)

[Deimos]

Whaaaaat? lol.



You don't need to.
Some people extend respect until a person isn't worth respecting.
Some people extend none and expect respect to be earned.
Wax on, wax off.
Pfft, whatevah.
Makes sense

[Cecil Rhodes]

OMG ,,,,, This thread has turned into one big CATTY-FIGHT

Blade Vs Deacon Frost [Lightsaber Battle] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76c_nxhuVdM&feature=player_detailpage)

[EvonRose]

Flip side to this. Anyone whose name is not: Jamie, Eva or Tiffany.
If you had just been robbed at gunpoint. Had your life threatened;
how easy would you find it to go back to work?
Be that driving a cab, an office job that where your journey home involves walking down a dark ally from the train station,
or an estate agent where you accompany clients (strangers (http://tinyurl.com/bo4s5n7)) around properties you are trying to rent or sell.
Now magnify that a dozen times if your job involves sex with strangers. And the fact that compared to a Bio-female Escort, a trans escort is many times more likely to die at the coal face, so to speak. Seanchai's other (non-porn) site (http://www.grooby.com/fallenangels/) emphasises this.
Ironically, a number of the poster on this board, over the years,
will die violently.
Sobering stuff.

It's not matter of going back to work its about their saving...

Your telling me neither done of them after all these years in porn don't have 550 dollars in saving?

My 13 year old sister has more than that.... I am just saying someone is not financially smart or living beyond their means...

[Cecil Rhodes]

It's not matter of going back to work its about their saving...

Your telling me neither done of them after all these years in porn don't have 550 dollars in saving?

My 13 year old sister has more than that.... I am just saying someone is not financially smart or living beyond their means...

Well they are in Texas ,,,,,, where you have to live BIG

[Nikka]

this thread is Hilarious

[BellaBellucci]

But you said you didn't care about the police report.
If you didn't mean it, you shouldn't have said it.
You can't take it back. (http://tinyurl.com/zceoh) :party:

You're absolutely right, but *I* don't care about a police report per se. I do, however, think people should live up to their promises and standards if *they* think it will prove something. That's all that was. Sorry for the confusion.

~BB~

[doctor screw]

Muahahaha! :dead:

~BB~

We must be kindred spirits

[Cecil Rhodes]

You do it for the fun ? What about your NO PAY, NO PLAY Rule ?

[Pelheckitt]

Classic.

[loveboof]

*smh* Don't you people realise that every pointless comment you add to this thread just bumps it right up to the top again... (lol)

[Pelheckitt]

*smh* Don't you people realise that every pointless comment you add to this thread just bumps it right up to the top again... (lol)

Is that what happens?

[loveboof]

Is that what happens?

Yes. Shame on you Pelheckitt!