I no longer fucks with ts and here's why!

[FreddieGomez]

Sure some TS are hot, but there are hundreds of genetic chicks for every 1 hot TS.

Why bother with some ts chick who expects to get paid to fuck her when an even hotter genetic chick will let u smash for free?

Do you get what I'm saying?

Is liking ts really that serious?

[Wendy Summers]

Sure some TS are hot, but there are hundreds of genetic chicks for every 1 hot TS.

Why bother with some ts chick who expects to get paid to fuck her when an even hotter genetic chick will let u smash for free?

Do you get what I'm saying?

Is liking ts really that serious?

You have over 3,000 other posts which claim we are.


:hide-1:

[FreddieGomez]

You have over 3,000 other posts which claim we are.


:hide-1:

Most of my posts are about nothing.

It's not like I'm thirsty

[tsadriana]

Ts is like the real thing love, why will u fuck a whale when u can get the real thing?

[FreddieGomez]

blah blah blah fucking blah

[tsadriana]

blah blah blah fucking blah
ahahahahah tell me who gives a head better a woman or ts?tell me who is more sexy then ever a woman or ts?tell me do u sweat when u shag a ts?>:):):):):):):):):)

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I'm sticking with TS ladies!! both are drama quenns but, I want the ones that know what to do with a cock...both mine and theirs!!!

[trish]

Most of my posts are about nothing...'noticed that.

[tsadriana]

I'm sticking with TS ladies!! both are drama quenns but, I want the ones that know what to do with a cock...both mine and theirs!!!
Thats my man

[tsadriana]

'noticed that.
hahaha Trish xxx

[El Nino]

Ts > gg

[Maxxxy]

Why not the best of both Freddie?? x

[tsadriana]

Freddie what is ur first words when u chat with ts or gg,s?

[Dino Velvet]

Why choose? Fuck them all.

[tsadriana]

Why choose? Fuck them all.
ahhahaah

[Dino Velvet]

Hey there...:fuckin:

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/customavatars/avatar85270_117.gif

[bimale69]

I'm sticking with TS ladies!! both are drama quenns but, I want the ones that know what to do with a cock...both mine and theirs!!!

Ditto, i been with my ts lady for a good long time, she's great to me and i love every minute of my life with her. I think freddie got fed up because ts girls dont put up with douchebags.

[Wendy Summers]

It's not like I'm thirsty

I don't know that I believe that... how many guys who DON'T want a TS come here to post a thread how they don't want to fuck TSs anymore? :geek:

[onmyknees]

Me and Vanessa have been saying for a long time that Freddie is a cock fiend on the DL, and by telling us the contrary...he thinks that provides him cover. He protests way too much. He's a conflicted dude and he's like the pyro who starts the fire so he can put it out. Pay him no mind. He'll be back in several months telling us he's dating some chick that looks like Rihanna, but she's a TS. And oh yea....he's not interested in her she cock. lmao

[tsadriana]

Me and Vanessa have been saying for a long time that Freddie is a cock fiend on the DL, and by telling us the contrary...he thinks that provides him cover. He protests way too much. He's a conflicted dude and he's like the pyro who starts the fire so he can put it out. Pay him no mind. He'll be back in several months telling us he's dating some chick that looks like Rihanna, but she's a TS. And oh yea....he's not interested in her she cock. lmao
Yeah right ,i bet he wanked while he fucked ts,s every time....Im ts and i know for a fact a guy will touch a cock at least once.....

[onmyknees]

Yeah right ,i bet he wanked while he fucked ts,s every time....Im ts and i know for a fact a guy will touch a cock at least once.....


That's right baby.....Freddie's always had a thing for you, I can tell..... but don't hold that against him...........so do I !

[tsadriana]

That's right baby.....Freddie's always had a thing for you, I can tell..... but don't hold that against him...........so do I !
I have wet dreams with him everytime i read his posts :):)

[Ecchi]

Well, I love girls, and I love to give them pleasure by going down on them. But now lately when I finally got my ts experience I know that I really love sucking cock as well, at least ts cocks. When they push it down my throat is when I really am in heaven and it is the same when they fuck me hard. I think I better stay in both of the worlds, because I really do not want to leave any of them ;-)

[giovanni_hotel]

Loving transwomen has nothing to do with the 'supply' of GG chicks out here.

If a TG babe moves you in your loins, you're stuck. For good.
Doesn't matter how much pussy you could get instead.


You just haven't met the right one, Mr. Fred.

[Nikka]

useless discussion

[TatianaSummer]

LOL Someone had a bad date. Stay with the ggs then, no need to come back here to HungAngels then, right?

[BLKGSXR]

Freddy you stiLL a gayboy at heart son....
ATTENTION WHORE!

[ed_jaxon]

so you broke up with your girl Freddy?

sorry to hear that.

[fred41]

Loving transwomen has nothing to do with the 'supply' of GG chicks out here.

If a TG babe moves you in your loins, you're stuck. For good.
Doesn't matter how much pussy you could get instead.


You just haven't met the right one, Mr. Fred.

That's true.
A guy belonging to AA can give you many reasons why having a drink is unnecessary ...or bad for you.
He can sometimes even go for the rest of his life without having another one.

...but he'll always want one...oh yeah..:)

[Lovecox]

I don't know, to me women and TG's are different. I don't think one is 'better' than the other. They have different things to offer. It's like saying "I'm not going to eat pizza anymore because I'm going to eat hamburgers." As far as better head, it depends on the individual. I've gotten terrible head and great head from both. My two cents.

[onThaLow954]

Hehehe as time went by more and more Tgirls noticed Freds walk.... they described him as "about to twist out of his shoes". Yeah dude, you took that metro shit too far, the tg pussy you get for free are always the ones that bottom only and want masc. First pro that stepped in the room saw through you.

[Quiet Reflections]

ahahahahah tell me who gives a head better a woman or ts?tell me who is more sexy then ever a woman or ts?tell me do u sweat when u shag a ts?>:):):):):):):):):)
the quality of the head depends on the person, I have had bad head from Tg's and GG's. Both are sexy but there are far more sexy GG's than there are TG's because there are way more GG's out there.And If you are fucking anyone you should be sweating or you aren't doing it right.

[FreddieGomez]

Hehehe as time went by more and more Tgirls noticed Freds walk.... they described him as "about to twist out of his shoes". Yeah dude, you took that metro shit too far, the tg pussy you get for free are always the ones that bottom only and want masc. First pro that stepped in the room saw through you.

This newbie nigga just signs up and starts talkin shit he knows nothing about. smh

I don't even fuck TS. It's too risky and i feel it's better to just look.

I'm a hypochondriac when it comes to std's so the fact alone so many ts are promiscuous puts me off.

I don't know why ya'll come at me with all this bullshit for stating my opinion.

Too many captain save a hoes i swear.

[onThaLow954]

I'm a captain save a hoe? Heh bro I was actually getting pussy when that phrase was invented, you heard some niggas in jail or on the corner say it and thought it sounded cool.
You the one catching feelings about one wanting to get paid, what now your other secret is youf broke?



This newbie nigga just signs up and starts talkin shit he knows nothing about. smh

I don't even fuck TS. It's too risky and i feel it's better to just look.

I'm a hypochondriac when it comes to std's so the fact alone so many ts are promiscuous puts me off.

I don't know why ya'll come at me with all this bullshit for stating my opinion.

Too many captain save a hoes i swear.

[FreddieGomez]

You probably some reg using an alias.

I dont believe in giving any chick's my money unless it's my baby momma.

I don't pay for ass. never have, never will.

If that means I'll never get tranny ass, then so be it,.

I won't lower my standards for such nonsense.

[Random532]

I'm a captain save a hoe? Heh bro I was actually getting pussy when that phrase was invented, you heard some niggas in jail or on the corner say it and thought it sounded cool.
You the one catching feelings about one wanting to get paid, what now your other secret is youf broke?

Wow, and there was me thinking internet hardmanning was dead! Why don't you tell us all where you live and we can get us a proper HO'DOWN! Woooooooo!

[onThaLow954]

I'm not a reg but a lurker that checks here every few years, I'll admit the post where you ask if white guys are mad we all have to pay *was* the reason I registered, then realized it was old as fuck so said fuck it.

I respect you wont lower your standards but then why be mad at them charging if you only admire and do not touch? You can sit and watch for free all night long. You actually sounded very proud that others had to pay and you didn't so it's hard to see what has changed between then and now.

And yeah dude, yer a douche - not for how you handle tg's (not at all) but how you think that somehow you are the only guy that doesn't have to pay...then i find out you never even had any? and now you are mad they want money.... almost makes me mad I believed you for a minute.

[FreddieGomez]

I'm not a reg but a lurker that checks here every few years, I'll admit the post where you ask if white guys are mad we all have to pay *was* the reason I registered, then realized it was old as fuck so said fuck it.

I respect you wont lower your standards but then why be mad at them charging if you only admire and do not touch? You can sit and watch for free all night long. You actually sounded very proud that others had to pay and you didn't so it's hard to see what has changed between then and now.

And yeah dude, yer a douche - not for how you handle tg's (not at all) but how you think that somehow you are the only guy that doesn't have to pay...then i find out you never even had any? and now you are mad they want money.... almost makes me mad I believed you for a minute.


Yo That thread was a long time ago. I've matured alot since then.


You're right and I'll just look at FREE porn all night.

I don't believe in paying for ass. That's something that can be attained for free.
so what?

genetic chicks dont charge me

so why should i pay for a ts?

i aint some trick.

I have dignity and morals.

[onThaLow954]

Hehe it would be a hoe up, hoeing someone up is when they are intimidated. A hoe down I think is something country related.

I think it was me using the word nigga that made you read it that way, I'm a big believer of when in rome - when he spoke like that to me first I just figured that was the dialect he was most comfortable using.

Being a tough guy wouldn't really help you here anyway, i mean this is the one forum that just by being in here has a certain "questionability" about it. As In we (me only) think we are the only straight ones, but at the same time dont want to find out someone on here is more mascaline, must be a primal thing.

Now if it was a muscle building forum and I was 350 ripped like the hulk and I was fairly certain I would win or at least land some before going down, that might be a tool that would make people look up to you.

But trust me it was just dialect, it would be like if i said "you all up on Freddys dick" instead of "I'm happy to see Freddy has some defenders left.....".

Me not good with words, sorry if this doens't make sense.


Wow, and there was me thinking internet hardmanning was dead! Why don't you tell us all where you live and we can get us a proper HO'DOWN! Woooooooo!

[onThaLow954]

Dignity and morals? Those are subjective things. GG's dont charge, TG's wont charge either, but you aren't going to be able to fuck anyone you want, anytime you want for free.

It's cool you don't want to pay, I can't say i respect you anymore for it since I don't view it like you do, I view it the same as paying for a haircut if i trick. I wish I could find nobility in you stance but it think that is neither here nor there, the discussion is why are you no longer going to "fucks with" (random , means associate with...sort of) ts.

So you dont fuck with them because they charge other guys to fuck, never you? Would you only fuck a ts if there were no other ts on earth charging?

If you are just looking for a forum full of tg's that are reg girls living reg lives, you aint gonna find it, they fucking avoid other tg's like the plague.


I don't believe in paying.

so what

genetic chicks dont charge me

so why should i pay for a ts

i aint some trick.

I have dignity and morals.

[FreddieGomez]

Dignity and morals? Those are subjective things. GG's dont charge, TG's wont charge either, but you aren't going to be able to fuck anyone you want, anytime you want for free.

It's cool you don't want to pay, I can't say i respect you anymore for it since I don't view it like you do, I view it the same as paying for a haircut if i trick. I wish I could find nobility in you stance but it think that is neither here nor there, the discussion is why are you no longer going to "fucks with" (random , means associate with...sort of) ts.

So you dont fuck with them because they charge other guys to fuck, never you? Would you only fuck a ts if there were no other ts on earth charging?

If you are just looking for a forum full of tg's that are reg girls living reg lives, you aint gonna find it, they fucking avoid other tg's like the plague.

Nigga i'm dyslexic so i aint reading all that nor do i care.

[onThaLow954]

If you don't wanna pay goto craigslist post a fucking picture in M4t and you'll get for free, you aren't going to find a tranny bar where no one but you knows it's trannys and they aren't working - the videos fuck up what you think this shit is bro. You aint getting vid (they wont top) unless you pay or are in a relationship for a while and even then it's an extremely touchy subject...as in you could get dumped for even asking about it.

I know dude, you wanna goto a reg night club , a chick walks up to you buys you a drink. You guys go home, ofc you have no idea shes a tranny cuz you wouldn't even fuck with her if you did but she gives you heat and in the head of the moment she undresses you see her cock but she immediatly throws her legs up and shows you some fucking hole (the wildcard). You break and fuck her, her dick is flapping all around....no one find out blah blah blah, fast forward you fuck her every friday night and have 2 or 3 others.

Just like I thought it would be...dont sweat it, shit is still good. Very good.

[FreddieGomez]

ok

i'd never go to a tranny bar

and as for craigslist, i've done it before

but it's trashy with too many cd's claiming to be ts.

[MISTERCEE]

Pussy is never free....One way or another you are paying for something....

[Ryz]

Freddie still a bitch ass nigga.

[onmyknees]

Freddie still a bitch ass nigga.


No....you're mistaken...he's not black. He's P.R.

[Ryz]

No....you're mistaken...he's not black. He's P.R.

"No. I'm not actually black, mah moms is Puerto Rican."
lmao

[dreamon]

thanks for the update. we were all on the edge of our seats waiting for you to let us know.

[FreddieGomez]

Freddie still a bitch ass nigga.
nigga stfu

[FreddieGomez]

"No. I'm not actually black, mah moms is Puerto Rican."
lmao

bwahahaha

[FreddieGomez]

Pussy is never free....One way or another you are paying for something....

when u stay as fly as me it's always free!

[tsadriana]

:):):)Freddie i know u love whales

[buckjohnson]

I agree with FG. If you are going to deal with hormonal issues, as all girls have some I would like to deal with one who have had a lifetime of dealing with them. I have found that most TG's have a back-story and lifetime journey that is just too much for someone like me to deal with. TG's I know are extremely jealous, very vindictive, will and can fight at the drop of an unwelcome word or gesture, combine drugs and alcohol unsuccessfully, and are emotional wrecks. That and the wigs, facial/body hair, and rude attitudes make being with TG too much work and not enough play.

[buckjohnson]

On the flip side, GG girls are crazy, fall in love too quickly when falling in lust in the real story, buy too many shoes, avoid sucking dick, want fifty shades of gray and fifty shades of green. read too many romance books and watch too mny lifetime murder network movies and as such are unrealistic in expectations of a realtionship...need I say more?

[Willie Escalade]

I agree with FG. If you are going to deal with hormonal issues, as all girls have some I would like to deal with one who have had a lifetime of dealing with them. I have found that most TG's have a back-story and lifetime journey that is just too much for someone like me to deal with. TG's I know are extremely jealous, very vindictive, will and can fight at the drop of an unwelcome word or gesture, combine drugs and alcohol unsuccessfully, and are emotional wrecks. That and the wigs, facial/body hair, and rude attitudes make being with TG too much work and not enough play.

On the flip side, GG girls are crazy, fall in love too quickly when falling in lust in the real story, buy too many shoes, avoid sucking dick, want fifty shades of gray and fifty shades of green. read too many romance books and watch too mny lifetime murder network movies and as such are unrealistic in expectations of a realtionship...need I say more?
CHURCH! :Bowdown:

[FreddieGomez]

On the flip side, GG girls are crazy, fall in love too quickly when falling in lust in the real story, buy too many shoes, avoid sucking dick, want fifty shades of gray and fifty shades of green. read too many romance books and watch too mny lifetime murder network movies and as such are unrealistic in expectations of a realtionship...need I say more?

They're all crazy, but genetic chicks aren't out for a quick buck like most ts always appear to be. Shit if any genetic chick was tryin to hustle me for a quick buck her ass would be outside in the cold looking in. TS are no different. Just because you're a fetish for "generous" old dudes who can't get ass for free don't mean you're gonna be one for me too. For every TS who charges there are hundreds of even hotter genetic chicks who will give it up for free. TRuetalk!

But I mean damn is that all you're life is based on?

Shallow dreams and unrealistic expectations?

Not to mention TS exploit the fact that they're merely a fetish and take it to an extreme. It's like they hate dudes who only view them as sex objects, but escort and do porn until the day they die.

And the sad fact is NOT all of us just want them for sex. They put that on themselves.

[Quiet Reflections]

On the flip side, GG girls are crazy, fall in love too quickly when falling in lust in the real story, buy too many shoes, avoid sucking dick, want fifty shades of gray and fifty shades of green. read too many romance books and watch too mny lifetime murder network movies and as such are unrealistic in expectations of a realtionship...need I say more?
Sounds like you fuck with the wrong girls

[Quiet Reflections]

They're all crazy, but genetic chicks aren't out for a quick buck like most ts always appear to be. Shit if any genetic chick was tryin to hustle me for a quick buck her ass would be outside in the cold looking in. TS are no different. Just because you're a fetish for "generous" old dudes who can't get ass for free don't mean you're gonna be one for me too. For every TS who charges there are hundreds of even hotter genetic chicks who will give it up for free. TRuetalk!

But I mean damn is that all you're life is based on?

Shallow dreams and unrealistic expectations?

Not to mention TS exploit the fact that they're merely a fetish and take it to an extreme. It's like they hate dudes who only view them as sex objects, but escort and do porn until the day they die.

And the sad fact is NOT all of us just want them for sex. They put that on themselves.
Very well said

[Ceris893]

They're all crazy, but genetic chicks aren't out for a quick buck like most ts always appear to be. Shit if any genetic chick was tryin to hustle me for a quick buck her ass would be outside in the cold looking in. TS are no different. Just because you're a fetish for "generous" old dudes who can't get ass for free don't mean you're gonna be one for me too. For every TS who charges there are hundreds of even hotter genetic chicks who will give it up for free. TRuetalk!

But I mean damn is that all you're life is based on?

Shallow dreams and unrealistic expectations?

Not to mention TS exploit the fact that they're merely a fetish and take it to an extreme. It's like they hate dudes who only view them as sex objects, but escort and do porn until the day they die.

And the sad fact is NOT all of us just want them for sex. They put that on themselves.

This is one point I agree with you 100%. Having a fuckbuddy is not all there is to life.

[amberskyi]

I personally think it's awesome, one less fuck face for us girls to run across....

[onmyknees]

On the flip side, GG girls are crazy, fall in love too quickly when falling in lust in the real story, buy too many shoes, avoid sucking dick, want fifty shades of gray and fifty shades of green. read too many romance books and watch too mny lifetime murder network movies and as such are unrealistic in expectations of a realtionship...need I say more?


Wow...no where to turn. Why don't you just jump off the cliff and end the misery of it all ? I mean really...you give pessimism a whole new meaning. Have you contacted Dr. Phil for an intervention ? I hear he can help with this sort of thing.
There's a cure for what ails a problem of this magnitude...celibacy

[bimale69]

when u stay as fly as me it's always free!

Just what a douchebag would typically say. Like i said, maybe tgirls are better at detecting people like you.

[CaptainPlanet]

This guy had to come on a TS board to let the TS community know he's not fucking with TS anymore. HMMMMMM

Your a lost Soul my friend. Im guessing not many Life Goals either?

[Ceris893]

Yeah Freddie's behaviour dithers from reasonable to 4chan-like very often

[buckjohnson]

Wow...no where to turn. Why don't you just jump off the cliff and end the misery of it all ? I mean really...you give pessimism a whole new meaning. Have you contacted Dr. Phil for an intervention ? I hear he can help with this sort of thing.
There's a cure for what ails a problem of this magnitude...celibacy


sorry for my poor communication skills. An intervention is not needed, I just feel that dealing with GG is so difficult and I have to put in so much work that dealing with a TG who do not have the lifetime exp of hormones and body image issues and too early sexual self imagery can be to complicated if they are new to these issues.

Yes, but journey with GG has been full fo misery. but is has also been a lot of fun. I will takea GG over a TG anytime. fetish aside, a GG I think just feels different.

[buckjohnson]

CHURCH! :Bowdown:


Thanks for understanding.

[blckhaze]

Im inclined to believe you freddie except forthe fact you continuously have to say you dont do certain things. And its no tlike anyone asked you this question as part of some debate, you went out the way to let us ALL know. I dont remember the exact sychological term but in essence its verbal negative reassurance, or basically tryign to convince yourself by repeating something over and over again. Maybe Im wrong, but more times than not, when someone vehemently and unprovoked says "I DONT DO _________" it means they have some type of shame that they do do it and think the world will treat them differently than what theyre comfortable with.

[Clind]

lolol
one of the most funny thread ever

[LittleGuy]

I personally think it's awesome, one less fuck face for us girls to run across....

stop whining

[Mr. Sinister]

I love transsexual women and prefer them to GG women. But my only issue with transsexual women is that most of them work in the sex industry.

[EvonRose]

Thats because the Trannies don't deal with your shit.... lol... J/K

But whatever floats your boat bud!!! But cmon lets not lie to ourselves your gonna be jacking off and fantasizing about ts women for the rest of your life. Who are you trying to fool...:)

[EvonRose]

I love transsexual women and prefer them to GG women. But my only issue with transsexual women is that most of them work in the sex industry.

That is not true... most of the transexual women you see in porn and the sex industry work in the industry...

Majority of ts women live normally... Bad stereotype.

[onThaLow954]

I find that very hard to believe.


That is not true... most of the transexual women you see in porn and the sex industry work in the industry...

Majority of ts women live normally... Bad stereotype.

[Silcc69]

You know i'm in the process of getting involved with an would be former escort. I ain't had to pay for shit. And it is not like im loaded with cash or am the best looking guy in the world (i'm not ugly either.) But I simply treat her like a human being rather than a sex object. And that goes with any chic gg or tg. Freddie I think you have attitude issues that hold you back.

[fred41]

But cmon lets not lie to ourselves your gonna be jacking off and fantasizing about ts women for the rest of your life. ..:)

lol...yup.

[loveboof]

But cmon lets not lie to ourselves your gonna be jacking off and fantasizing about ts women for the rest of your life. Who are you trying to fool...:)

Haha. It's nice to have it laid out so clearly for everyone!

We can all know what to expect now :)

[EvonRose]

I find that very hard to believe.

I'm sorry to say but I MAY be correct... we can compare notes... you can always prove me wrong.

But majority of what men know about ts are based on the adult industry...
But the truth is there are way more ts women around the globe that are living normal non adult industry life....

We are humans who make a choice, unfortunately the well known ts women happen to be in the industry, but I'm not going to take away the respect, and hardships normal ts women go trough and choose to veer from the industry. It is much harder to transition on low income than to join the adult world with higher income pay... So those women go trough a lot!

[GroobySteven]

I find that very hard to believe.

Then you had better try harder to believe it.

[TatianaSummer]

I'm sorry to say but I MAY be correct... we can compare notes... you can always prove me wrong.

But majority of what men know about ts are based on the adult industry...
But the truth is there are way more ts women around the globe that are living normal non adult industry life....

We are humans who make a choice, unfortunately the well known ts women happen to be in the industry, but I'm not going to take away the respect, and hardships normal ts women go trough and choose to veer from the industry. It is much harder to transition on low income than to join the adult world with higher income pay... So those women go trough a lot!

I second that.

[tsadriana]

I'm sorry to say but I MAY be correct... we can compare notes... you can always prove me wrong.

But majority of what men know about ts are based on the adult industry...
But the truth is there are way more ts women around the globe that are living normal non adult industry life....

We are humans who make a choice, unfortunately the well known ts women happen to be in the industry, but I'm not going to take away the respect, and hardships normal ts women go trough and choose to veer from the industry. It is much harder to transition on low income than to join the adult world with higher income pay... So those women go trough a lot!

Exactly Evon ,they know only from what they sawin the industry ,if u advice them to do a deeper search they shout ur mouth telling u that they know better then us ,is like they are ts,s not us...well most of men not all.

[Prospero]

I never understand why guys refuse to listen to the girls who live the life.

[loveboof]

To be fair, now that I've actually read Freddie's post, I get what he's saying...

Kinda agree lol.

[Tyler___Durden]

Sure some TS are hot, but there are hundreds of genetic chicks for every 1 hot TS.

Why bother with some ts chick who expects to get paid to fuck her when an even hotter genetic chick will let u smash for free?

Do you get what I'm saying?

Is liking ts really that serious?

You are 100% correct.
Er, you can delete your account and leave.
Shut the door on the way out.

[Tyler___Durden]

why should i pay for a ts?
i aint some trick.
I have dignity and morals.
and unfulfilled fantasy's that you will take to your grave.

Just sayin'...

[Tyler___Durden]

If you are just looking for a forum full of tg's that are reg girls living reg lives, you aint gonna find it, they fucking avoid other tg's like the plague.
Yep.
The quickest way to get 'Read'
is to hang out with other Ts's.
Fact.

[Tyler___Durden]

I agree with FG. If you are going to deal with hormonal issues, as all girls have some I would like to deal with one who have had a lifetime of dealing with them. I have found that most TG's have a back-story and lifetime journey that is just too much for someone like me to deal with. TG's I know are extremely jealous, very vindictive, will and can fight at the drop of an unwelcome word or gesture, combine drugs and alcohol unsuccessfully, and are emotional wrecks. That and the wigs, facial/body hair, and rude attitudes make being with TG too much work and not enough play.
Tell me about the wigs.
I'm really curious. Are the other Ts's bald?
Why has no one mentioned this before?
Why has no one said 'Finesteride' (1.25 - 2.5mg/day) (http://tinyurl.com/zwckn)?
Didn't anyone tell them?

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[Tyler___Durden]

They're all crazy, but genetic chicks aren't out for a quick buck like the very occasional ts appears to be. Shit if any genetic chick was tryin to hustle me for a quick buck her ass would be outside in the cold looking in. TS are no different. Just because you're a fetish for "generous" old dudes who can't get ass for free don't mean you're gonna be one for me too. For every TS who charges there are hundreds of even hotter genetic chicks who will give it up for free.
Not to mention the very occasional TS exploits the fact that they're merely a fetish and take it to an extreme. It's like they hate dudes who only view them as sex objects, but escort and do porn until the day they die.
But this applies to only the very occasional TS, 99% of Ts women are nothing like this.
I edited your post to the way that you intended to write it.
You talk a lot of sense in your amended post. Respect.

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[Tyler___Durden]

I love transsexual women and prefer them to GG women. But my only issue with transsexual women is that most of them work in the sex industry.
Less than 1% of ts women have ever had any connection with the sex industry.

[EvonRose]

I agree with FG. If you are going to deal with hormonal issues, as all girls have some I would like to deal with one who have had a lifetime of dealing with them. I have found that most TG's have a back-story and lifetime journey that is just too much for someone like me to deal with. TG's I know are extremely jealous, very vindictive, will and can fight at the drop of an unwelcome word or gesture, combine drugs and alcohol unsuccessfully, and are emotional wrecks. That and the wigs, facial/body hair, and rude attitudes make being with TG too much work and not enough play.

Wait...

My hair is black, and wavy down to my tailbone, but last I checked it was real hair, no extensions or wigs...

I have no facial hair or body hair.

Rude attitude only being from ts? I guess Naomi Campbell and Madonna are ts too because of their nasty attitude.

Maybe you don't have enough game to play the game... lol...

You guys need to stop stereotyping it aint helping you at all!!! Your putting limit to something that is not true to the rest of us, and i think its unfair and quite frankly ignorant... Get out of the porn forum and quit jacking off! If you want to get to know ts women go out in the REAL world...

If a guy only meets girls in a strip cub they meet hustlers and workers, if you meet girls in porn and escorting same thing... Normal women are out of the strip clubs go do something productive fat asses!!! lol

[hngs]

Less than 1% of ts women have ever had any connection with the sex industry.

You just pulled that figure out of your ass.

[tsadriana]

Not to many guys dare to go out to meet Ts,s because they are scarred that someone will see them in a tranny club i soppose or maybe their are scarred of their real sexual identity and can`t accepted.

[Tyler___Durden]

You just pulled that figure out of your ass.
Nope.
I'm in the Uk.
Almost all ts escorts appear on Adultwork.com. (AW)
That's about 950 across the whole country.
This figure includes:
1. UK Transsexuals
2. Foreign escorts
3. Transvestites/crossdressers {an awful lot of them}
4. Duplicate ads,
There are less than 100 actual UK ts escorts on AW.

Moving on...
In the UK, it is estimated that 1 in 4,000 people is receiving medical help for gender dysphoria. However, there may be many more people with the condition who have yet to seek help. source (http://www.nhsdirect.wales.nhs.uk/encyclopaedia/g/article/genderdysphoria/)

UK population =61 million
Number of ts in the uk (underestimate) = 15,250
% whoring = less than 0.6% which in itself is a huge underestimate.


I'm sure you will now agree that my ass is very wise.
Your apology is accepted. ;)

[EvonRose]

I chose to be in the industry for MY personal reasons, But i want to make it clear I am not an example of all ts women...

It isn't fair to them, or their struggles for them to be categorized with me. I have nothing against porn or my work, but they deserve a separate recognition and respect.

I gotta be fair.

[bighicknyc]

Isn't the bad attitude one recieves a direct correlation to the one they give off?

[loveboof]

There are less than 100 actual UK ts escorts on AW.


Are there really less than 100 ts escorts working in this country? I find that very hard to believe.

Your initial figure from AW alone was 950 , but from what I've heard the fakes are [I]fake pictures etc (i.e they are still people with gender dysphoria selling sex online).

To reduce your own intial figure by nearly x10 seems pretty drastic to me!

Also, I doubt that NHS source will draw a distinction between transvestites/crossdressers with what they term as people with gender dysphoria...

Assuming that adultwork.com is the only site that escorts work from (again, I'm dubious), you could very generously ignore half (as duplicates, fakes, whatever).

Which would make the percentage (approx.) somewhere between 3-6% out of every person in this country with some form of gender dysphoria.

Obviously not exact figures. Your overall point about the sex workers being a small percentage could still stand, but don't try to fix your own statistics... lol

[amberskyi]

Here's the actual criteria for gender identity disorder.cross dressers and transvestites clearly don't qualify...
" In the United States, the American Psychiatric Association permits a diagnosis of gender identity disorder if the four diagnostic criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4thEdition, Text-Revised (DSM-IV-TR) are met. The criteria are:

Long-standing and strong identification with another gender

Long-standing disquiet about the sex assigned or a sense of incongruity in the gender-assigned role of that sex

The diagnosis is not made if the individual also has physical intersex characteristics.

Significant clinical discomfort or impairment at work, social situations, or other important life areas.

If the four criteria are met under the DSM-IV-TR, a diagnosis is made under ICD-9 code 302.85 . See the classification and external resources sidebar at right for other diagnostic codes for gender identity disorder.

The International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) list three diagnostic criteria:

Transsexualism (F64.0) has three criteria: [9]

1. The desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by the wish to make his or her body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatment 2. The transsexual identity has been present persistently for at least two years 3. The disorder is not a symptom of another mental disorder or a chromosomal abnormality

Uncertainty about gender identity which causes anxiety or stress is diagnosed as sexual maturation disorder.

[loveboof]

Ohuh..

I was responding to Tyler's post, where the source was an NHS link.

I wasn't really saying anything about the validity of the information, just that she was interpreting her own facts & figures incorrectly.

[natina]

you chose to be in the adult industry because of the money and there is discrimination against the LGBT COMMUNITY.

thats the bottom line discrimination and money


I chose to be in the industry for MY personal reasons, But i want to make it clear I am not an example of all ts women...

It isn't fair to them, or their struggles for them to be categorized with me. I have nothing against porn or my work, but they deserve a separate recognition and respect.

I gotta be fair.

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

They're all crazy, but genetic chicks aren't out for a quick buck like most ts always appear to be. Shit if any genetic chick was tryin to hustle me for a quick buck her ass would be outside in the cold looking in. TS are no different. Just because you're a fetish for "generous" old dudes who can't get ass for free don't mean you're gonna be one for me too. For every TS who charges there are hundreds of even hotter genetic chicks who will give it up for free. TRuetalk!

But I mean damn is that all you're life is based on?

Shallow dreams and unrealistic expectations?

Not to mention TS exploit the fact that they're merely a fetish and take it to an extreme. It's like they hate dudes who only view them as sex objects, but escort and do porn until the day they die.

And the sad fact is NOT all of us just want them for sex. They put that on themselves. Both TS and GG's are options. There's pros and cons with both. But don't ruin potential opportunities with speculation and generalization. So when GG's are getting on my nerves I call the TS. And when my TS are acting up I call me genetic friends...

Don't place all your bets on one horse.

Stay Thirsty~


Yo That thread was a long time ago. I've matured alot since then.


You're right and I'll just look at FREE porn all night.

I don't believe in paying for ass. That's something that can be attained for free.
so what?

genetic chicks dont charge me

so why should i pay for a ts?

i aint some trick.

I have dignity and morals.They're not charging you, They're "testing" you.

If you're as "fly" as you claim you are you can get past that "pay me" BS and still get the ass. Trust me.

Almost every Tgirl I fuck with sells ass. But they call/text/PM me when they want body maintenance. They don't want money or a relationship....They say "Just suck me, fuck me and drop me off at the stroll/bar/club/etc.

Stay Thirsty~

[EvonRose]

you chose to be in the adult industry because of the money and there is discrimination against the LGBT COMMUNITY.

thats the bottom line discrimination and money

What are you trying to say?

I'm discriminated upon because i make money? lol...

[Tyler___Durden]

Are there really less than 100 ts escorts working in this country? I find that very hard to believe.

Your initial figure from AW alone was 950 , but from what I've heard the fakes are [I]fake pictures etc (i.e they are still people with gender dysphoria selling sex online).

To reduce your own intial figure by nearly x10 seems pretty drastic to me!


That is less than 100 uk escorts.
Almost every uk escort lists on AW. There are other sites yes but |AW is the Google of uk escorting sites, by a huge margin.
My country my industry, I know what I'm talking about.
Ask any other uk ts escort (or Bio-female escort, they'll confirm my statement)
Search results Tv/Ts escorts (including uk hookers, foreign hookers, tv/cd hookers and duplicate ads and dead ads) Your search matched 975 profiles Source (http://www.adultwork.com/Search.asp)
The vast majority of escorts are foreign workers or tv/cd workers.
(throwing a shout out to both groups, keep doin' your thing; we all rock!)
Very few uk ts escorts.
I'll let you go through the 975 profiles.
You do know the difference between a man in a flock & dodgy wig
and a real-deal transsexual, yes?

Get back to me and we can discuss further. :)

[tsadriana]

Freddie get a life will ya?Do u think ur cock is so specisal?Do u think transexuals are that des[perate for u big cock?guess what kid?u make me laugh ..go in ur str8 world and to ur family and play as a straight lier son,friend wotever u call...but dont come in here and asking for pitty,u sound like a real bad comedy...go fuck some whale as guys like u i see everyday online and i take a good care of them trust me..get ba life boy ..ur not happy with ts world get out and let others who really wants ....Guys like u makes me feel like Al bundy even he looks sexyier then u.imao.

[natina]

transsexual and transgendered or discriminated against in employment.





What are you trying to say?

I'm discriminated upon because i make money? lol...

[tsadriana]

transsexual and transgendered or discriminated against in employment.
True Natina and we will always be.

[onmyknees]

Freddie get a life will ya?Do u think ur cock is so specisal?Do u think transexuals are that des[perate for u big cock?guess what kid?u make me laugh ..go in ur str8 world and to ur family and play as a straight lier son,friend wotever u call...but dont come in here and asking for pitty,u sound like a real bad comedy...go fuck some whale as guys like u i see everyday online and i take a good care of them trust me..get ba life boy ..ur not happy with ts world get out and let others who really wants ....Guys like u makes me feel like Al bundy even he looks sexyier then u.imao.


:Bowdown:

[Dino Velvet]

Send all that PR tail to the West Coast and I'll rebrand them as Mexicans.:fuckin:

[LittleGuy]

Yes most ts you have to pay to play. No I'm not new to this.

[natina]

if freddie gomez sees a real life transsexual dick he would run from fear

gomez don't want no transsexual. this is just play for him

[tsadriana]

if freddie gomez sees a real life transsexual dick he would run from fear

gomez don't want no transsexual. this is just play for him
Call him desperate xxxxxxxxxx

[loveboof]

That is less than 100 uk escorts.

Why does it matter where the escorts are from?

The question was about how many ts are involved in the sex industry. I'm pretty sure that worldwide South America and Asia are gonna significantly force those figures up!

But even if you just look at the uk, why only consider escorts who are born here? The numbers of ts involved in the sex industry in the uk is almost certainly more than 100.

I don't really care what the percentages are tbh - you are probably correct that there are plenty of ts with normal jobs/lives.

[Tyler___Durden]

That is less than 100 uk escorts.

Why does it matter where the escorts are from?
The question was about how many ts are involved in the sex industry. I'm pretty sure that worldwide South America and Asia are gonna significantly force those figures up!

But even if you just look at the uk, why only consider escorts who are born here? The numbers of ts involved in the sex industry in the uk is almost certainly more than 100.

I don't really care what the percentages are tbh - you are probably correct that there are plenty of ts with normal jobs/lives.

Its totally relevant as people are saying most ts Whore.
I'm showing the aprox % of population who are ts in the uk.
Those figures from the NHS are applicable to uk people.

The number of ts who escort is tiny.
Most ts escorts in the uk are not from the uk,
but rather came over to Whore.
as only >20% of ts escorts are british,
it's essential to remove foreign workers from the numbers
or the ratios of ts to ts sex workers becomes meaningless.

If I include non uk nationals, then more than 5x
the number of ts show up as sex workers.
That massively distorts the figures and the truth.


Do you understand now?

[Tyler___Durden]

Here is a musical interlude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeegedVToRQ&feature=related

[EvonRose]

transsexual and transgendered or discriminated against in employment.

I agree to most degrees... But lets not forget that education nd qualifications also can rise above the discrimination...

The top srs surgeon in the united states is a transexual.
I saw a doctor in Dr Oz who was a transexual.
Candice Cayne is a transexual

This are a few examples, and it is hard! But escorting or porn is not the only way out... That is a cop put to me.

[Tyler___Durden]

But escorting or porn is not the only way out... That is a cop put to me.
Evon, I totally agree with you.
John Wayne wore a dress.

[Tyler___Durden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I

[buckjohnson]

Tell me about the wigs.
I'm really curious. Are the other Ts's bald?
Why has no one mentioned this before?
Why has no one said 'Finesteride' (1.25 - 2.5mg/day) (http://tinyurl.com/zwckn)?
Didn't anyone tell them?

http://7tweet.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/buffy_popcorn.gif

I am in the health care field. I know the side effects of finesteride, esp for tgs. I hope you were being sacarstic. MPB is a reality even for gg.

[buckjohnson]

Sorry baby girl, I dont know any gg who dont deal with wigs, extensions, hair color and other fake ways to deal with genetic flaws. Somehow I doubt you have never indulged. I might not have the game to deal with females, given their emotional imbalance. Also you are right, I do not know enough tgs, but the ones I know I would never have a intimite relationship with.

[buckjohnson]

I like your research. QUOTE=Tyler___Durden;1191055]Its totally relevant as people are saying most ts Whore.
I'm showing the aprox % of population who are ts in the uk.
Those figures from the NHS are applicable to uk people.

The number of ts who escort is tiny.
Most ts escorts in the uk are not from the uk,
but rather came over to Whore.
as only >20% of ts escorts are british,
it's essential to remove foreign workers from the numbers
or the ratios of ts to ts sex workers becomes meaningless.

If I include non uk nationals, then more than 5x
the number of ts show up as sex workers.
That massively distorts the figures and the truth.

I like your research.
Do you understand now?[/QUOTE]

[buckjohnson]

Why the hostility? UOTE=tsadriana;1190893]Freddie get a life will ya?Do u think ur cock is so specisal?Do u think transexuals are that des[perate for u big cock?guess what kid?u make me laugh ..go in ur str8 world and to ur family and play as a straight lier son,friend wotever u call...but dont come in here and asking for pitty,u sound like a real bad comedy...go fuck some whale as guys like u i see everyday online and i take a good care of them trust me..get ba life boy ..ur not happy with ts world get out and let others who really wants ....Guys like u makes me feel like Al bundy even he looks sexyier then u.imao.[/QUOTE]

[tsadriana]

Is not hostility darling,is just u get tired of this sort of bulshit from some......So guys come in here and make transexuals to look like monsters...I dont understand if someone dislike transexuals,whey they come in here with such a crap of statements ?I just dont the point?How many transgender people u see in heterosexual site attacking women or men?Im very sure the precentage is very small.

[loveboof]

Its totally relevant as people are saying most ts Whore.

Do you understand now?

Yep, I understand now.

In response to the statement that most ts are involved in the sex industry, you say 'not in the UK'; where as it could actually be true for other countries such as Brazil or Thailand (possibly in the world overall). But not in the UK... Gotcha.

[BellaBellucci]

'I no longer fucks with ts and here's why!'

Renewed survival instinct? :?

~BB~

[Tyler___Durden]

Sorry baby girl, I dont know any gg who dont deal with wigs, extensions, hair color and other fake ways to deal with genetic flaws. Somehow I doubt you have never indulged. I might not have the game to deal with females, given their emotional imbalance. Also you are right, I do not know enough tgs, but the ones I know I would never have a intimite relationship with.
Er, I came out perfect and stayed there.
It's lonely at the top but I sure like the view*.
There are some totally wonderful, sane, balanced, sorted, transsexual women who would make (and are) perfect partners.

Which is very boring! So I don't include myself in that list. Ha!



*winning (http://tinyurl.com/6fw68yg)

[Tyler___Durden]

I am in the health care field. I know the side effects of finesteride, esp for tgs. I hope you were being sacarstic. MPB is a reality even for gg.

Male Pattern Baldness a reality for Bio-women?
I'm not a medical expert but I'm pretty sure that's called female pattern baldness
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/hair-loss/hair-loss-types

More popcorn anyone?
http://i53.tinypic.com/dpejdl.jpg

[Tyler___Durden]

Yep, I understand now.

In response to the statement that most ts are involved in the sex industry, you say 'not in the UK'; where as it could actually be true for other countries such as Brazil or Thailand (possibly in the world overall). But not in the UK... Gotcha.

Yep, that sounds correct.
I'm pretty sure {based of various posts and articles about health care provision as applicable to transsexual men and transsexual women} that access and services are in most countries poor to non-existent. This in turn certainly has pushed more ts women into adult services both for survival and to fund transition.

Outside the uk I'm sure the % of Ts women who escort to be much higher.

[loveboof]

Outside the uk I'm sure the % of Ts women who escort to be much higher.
Hmm ok. (So ignoring the obvious fact that any generalisation about ts women would not separate those who are from the UK specifically with the rest of the ts in the world - you weren't getting my more subtle allusions to this idea)

Even inside the UK the percentage is higher lol... (you forgot to add the qualifier of 'where they were born')

What you're saying is that the number of ts overall who escort is actually much higher than what you suggested, but in the UK alone you estimate it to be a lower percentage based on your arbitrary interpretation of the figures for escorts in the UK who are on adultwork.com ?

Does that just about cover your position on this?

[jessicamoore]

Hun not all ts are looking to get paid
i ask why do guys always want just sex and nothing else ?
If your gonna use a ts for sex than expect to pay.most real women who fuck for free are either cheap whores or looking for a man hoping that free fuck turn into romance your just cheap looking to bust a free nut.

[Tyler___Durden]

Hmm ok. (So ignoring the obvious fact that any generalisation about ts women would not separate those who are from the UK specifically with the rest of the ts in the world - you weren't getting my more subtle allusions to this idea)

Even inside the UK the percentage is higher lol... (you forgot to add the qualifier of 'where they were born')

What you're saying is that the number of ts overall who escort is actually much higher than what you suggested, but in the UK alone you estimate it to be a lower percentage based on your arbitrary interpretation of the figures for escorts in the UK who are on adultwork.com ?

Does that just about cover your position on this?
Nope.

The vast majority of Ts Escorts in the UK advertise on AW.
There are Ts UK escort regulars on HA.

Check AW to see if they are on there.
Message them if they agree with my statements in this thread.

Across many part of the world

Ts Escorts/Porn workers worldwide is over represented in the public's awareness. through media and advertising. This awareness creates an erroneous perception about Ts women.
Most Ts aim to transition and blend back into mainstream society. This is a world constant.
Ts Escorts by the nature of the job do the opposite. Though when they leave the industry they generally follow the process as non-Escort Ts women.
Limited job opportunities and limited / no access to medical services for Ts Women (Ts men acknowledged) (psychs, hormones/blood monitoring, surgery's) result in some Ts women doing adult sex work, partly to fund the medical aspects of their transition.
The suggestion that most / all Ts women are Escorts, sexually objectify's all Ts women and plays a roll in many Ts murders.

My earlier post stated that it was UK specific:


I'm in the Uk.
Almost all ts escorts appear on Adultwork.com. (AW)
That's about 950 across the whole country.
This figure includes:
1. UK Transsexuals
2. Foreign escorts
3. Transvestites/crossdressers {an awful lot of them}
4. Duplicate ads,
There are less than 100 actual UK ts escorts on AW.

For the detail in my post, where a Ts Escort born is irrelevant. Having a UK nationality however is highly relevant.
Many ts women abroad have no ready access to (medical facilities drugs, psychs, surgeons) In the UK, ts nationals do have access to many of these facilities
so that one major driver for many ts women is simply not present for uk ts women.
Foreign ts women escorting in the uk, have no legal right to work here. Along side this they have no access to the various ts services available to uk ts women via NHS GIC's Nation Health Service Gender Identity Clinics.
Because this is a facility for uk citizens only.
In summery. A foreign Ts escort has no access to NHS ts medical services.
So that safety net for them does not exist.
Secondly, many of them come over here specifically to escort. They already made that decision (or were effectively forced to do so by circumstances in their home countries).
If you include them in figures for ts escorts,
then to balance this out, you would also need to include all the non escort ts's in their home countries to the number of non-escorting, uk ts's.
(Yes some non escorting ts come to work in the uk but I would suggest this number is tiny)

My extrapolated figures stand.
I hope this expanded detail explains my earlier post.

Transsexual woman does not = sex worker for most Ts women, anywhere in the world.
In the UK, Transsexual woman sex worker's are even rarer.
Your views may be slanted by the distorted perception which come from a porn board.
There are better places for a more rounded view.

Where in the world are you? Are you a uk citizen,
or have you lived here for extended periods.
Specifically do you have any connection with Hemel Hempstead?
(You weren't getting my my earlier subtle allusions to this idea)

[LittleGuy]

Hun not all ts are looking to get paid
i ask why do guys always want just sex and nothing else ?
If your gonna use a ts for sex than expect to pay.most real women who fuck for free are either cheap whores or looking for a man hoping that free fuck turn into romance your just cheap looking to bust a free nut.

Yes all ts are looking to get paid! Cut the bullshit sweetie

[loveboof]

blah blah blah

Ok, you're not getting what I'm saying at all.

I do not believe most ts are sex workers

Now we have that out the way, I'm English, live in England, and more specifically I do not have a connection with Hemel Hempstead.

All I'm saying is that your calculations are not exact. You keep responding to me like you're quoting Newton or something, but you're just pack-peddling to make your '1%' statement work...

Maybe there are only 100 UK ts escorts in the UK, but you don't know that! You're estimating that out of the 950 ts escorts on adultwork.com, 850 are going to be fakes, duplicates, foreign (etc) - this is clearly not an exact science... lol

How can you know these figures? You can't.

Then take into account that even if you managed to stumble on an accurate estimate for the UK, there is still the rest of world to consider for a generalisation as vague as 'most ts are sex workers'.

Just think for a second... :whistle:

[loveboof]

*back-peddling

(dumb no editing of posts)

[bluesoul]

Hun not all ts are looking to get paid
i ask why do guys always want just sex and nothing else ?
If your gonna use a ts for sex than expect to pay.most real women who fuck for free are either cheap whores or looking for a man hoping that free fuck turn into romance your just cheap looking to bust a free nut.

do you realize this mentality reinforces the op's reasons for starting this thread?

[BellaBellucci]

do you realize this mentality reinforces the op's reasons for starting this thread?

Do you realize it's a two-way street? :?

~BB~

[bluesoul]

Do you realize it's a two-way street? :?

~BB~

http://www.trbimg.com/img-503d8267/turbine/wdbj7-man-in-southwest-roanoke-tells-hookers-go-away-20120828/400/16x9

[amberskyi]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-503d8267/turbine/wdbj7-man-in-southwest-roanoke-tells-hookers-go-away-20120828/400/16x9

Can I ask you a question?
Would you seriously date a ts girl?

[buckjohnson]

BB you are looking good. UOTE=BellaBellucci;1191396]Do you realize it's a two-way street? :?

~BB~[/QUOTE]

[buckjohnson]

Good point.
Er, I came out perfect and stayed there.
It's lonely at the top but I sure like the view*.
There are some totally wonderful, sane, balanced, sorted, transsexual women who would make (and are) perfect partners.

Which is very boring! So I don't include myself in that list. Ha!



*winning (http://tinyurl.com/6fw68yg)

[Tyler___Durden]

Ok, you're not getting what I'm saying at all.
I do not believe most ts are sex workers

All I'm saying is that your calculations are not exact. You keep responding to me like you're quoting Newton or something, but you're just pack-peddling to make your '1%' statement work...
Maybe there are only 100 UK ts escorts in the UK, but you don't know that! You're estimating that out of the 950 ts escorts on adultwork.com, 850 are going to be fakes, duplicates, foreign (etc) - this is clearly not an exact science... lol
How can you know these figures? You can't.
Then take into account that even if you managed to stumble on an accurate estimate for the UK, there is still the rest of world to consider for a generalisation as vague as 'most ts are sex workers'.

Now we have that out the way, I'm English, live in England, and more specifically I do not have a connection with Hemel Hempstead.

My figures are an estimate. I didn't say 1%. I said less than 1%.
I gave my reasoning which is sound. No it's not exact. My posts state that.
My posts stated clearly I was talking about the UK.

Also I am stating that you have a very clear connection with Hemel Hempstead. which I think is pretty cool.

[loveboof]

My figures are an estimate.

Also I am stating that you have a very clear connection with Hemel Hempstead. which I think is pretty cool.

Well I can't really be arsed to keep arguing about that other stuff any more! lol

Is Steven Wilson my connection to Hemel Hempstead? (respect to you if that is what you mean...)

[EvonRose]

Sorry baby girl, I dont know any gg who dont deal with wigs, extensions, hair color and other fake ways to deal with genetic flaws. Somehow I doubt you have never indulged. I might not have the game to deal with females, given their emotional imbalance. Also you are right, I do not know enough tgs, but the ones I know I would never have a intimite relationship with.

well you don't know enough girls per-se... cause the hair on my head is 100 percent natural, and i have no problem going natural...

Maybe you just attract fake girls...

[EvonRose]

Hun not all ts are looking to get paid
i ask why do guys always want just sex and nothing else ?
If your gonna use a ts for sex than expect to pay.most real women who fuck for free are either cheap whores or looking for a man hoping that free fuck turn into romance your just cheap looking to bust a free nut.

than you!!!! could not have said it myself better...

[Tyler___Durden]

Well I can't really be arsed to keep arguing about that other stuff any more! lol
Is Steven Wilson my connection to Hemel Hempstead? (respect to you if that is what you mean...)
BINGO! :)

I was on a HiFi forum and people recommended different albums based upon
their audio awesomeness in production.
As a result, I bought Nightwing off amazon.
The day it arrived I was leaving to go on holiday so I put it on an mp3 player (I know...) and played the album 5 times, before deciding I just didn't like it.
On my return home, just prior to turfing the cd into the charity shop bag
I played the album for the first time on my HiFi. Wow! Totally blown away.
I've a few more of Steves albums since then.
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s501/tylerdurden918cc/SAM_0974.jpg

[loveboof]

BINGO! :)

I was on a HiFi forum and people recommended different albums based upon
their audio awesomeness in production.
As a result, I bought Nightwing off amazon.
The day it arrived I was leaving to go on holiday so I put it on an mp3 player (I know...) and played the album 5 times, before deciding I just didn't like it.
On my return home, just prior to turfing the cd into the charity shop bag
I played the album for the first time on my HiFi. Wow! Totally blown away.
I've a few more of Steves albums since then.
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s501/tylerdurden918cc/SAM_0974.jpg

:Bowdown:

Yeah Steven Wilson is actually a brillaint producer a well as being generally awesome lol. A lot of his stuff are 'growers' tho so it can take a few listens!

Nice collection there :) I mostly listen on mp3 too - for convenience. You can change the bit rate that mp3's are ripped at (in itunes anyway; import settings under the general preferences). Makes the quality better if you have the space on your mp3 player... personally I never have the space :(

[ImmerGeil]

Sure some TS are hot, but there are hundreds of genetic chicks for every 1 hot TS.

Why bother with some ts chick who expects to get paid to fuck her when an even hotter genetic chick will let u smash for free?

Do you get what I'm saying?

Is liking ts really that serious?

I can understand you.I also no longer fuck with transsexuals if I had to pay for it.Last time it was 8 months ago when I was with an escort.Now i want to save my money for the future.

Maybe people like us who doesn't want to spend much money on TS should take a vacation to Thailand.It's still cheap there compared to western countries.

Friends told me that the prices for a whole night start at 500 baht=16 $ to 2000 baht=64 dollar.In western countries it' hard to find a passable tgirl for under 150$ an hour.

So at the moment i would fuck passable tgirls only for free but this probably won't happen in my area.

[Tyler___Durden]

We lost the skyline I love this limited edition EP.
Worth tracking down if you don't have it already.
I love the track Normal which is why I put it up earlier in this thread.
{Any excuse!}

Anyway Mr Lloveboof
I am very pleased to make your acquaintance.
May I add you to my friends list, as I think you are quite cool
and that's not just coz you like Steve Wilson / PT. :)

[BellaBellucci]

I can understand you.I also no longer fuck with transsexuals if I had to pay for it.Last time it was 8 months ago when I was with an escort.Now i want to save my money for the future.

Maybe people like us who doesn't want to spend much money on TS should take a vacation to Thailand.It's still cheap there compared to western countries.

Friends told me that the prices for a whole night start at 500 baht=16 $ to 2000 baht=64 dollar.In western countries it' hard to find a passable tgirl for under 150$ an hour.

So at the moment i would fuck passable tgirls only for free but this probably won't happen in my area.

Outsourcing. Nice.

Southpark - They Took Our Job! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik)

Don't forget that it also costs money to fly there, stay in a hotel, eat...

DERP!

~BB~

[ImmerGeil]

The problem is that i belong to the middle class.

Here look at the prices of jennifer parishttp://www.ts-dating.com/escort/Jennifer_Paris

If she had clients everyday who spend a night with her she would earn almost 3 mio $ a year.

Even for a guy who has one or two millions on his account this isn't cheap.


It seems to be profitable for her and others to charge that much.

I can't blame it for her.To be honest if I would be her i would charge the same:)

[loveboof]

We lost the skyline I love this limited edition EP.
Worth tracking down if you don't have it already.
I love the track Normal which is why I put it up earlier in this thread.
{Any excuse!}

Anyway Mr Lloveboof
I am very pleased to make your acquaintance.
May I add you to my friends list, as I think you are quite cool
and that's not just coz you like Steve Wilson / PT. :)

Yeah nice to meet you too Tyler :) - of course you can add me!

Hmm, I don't have We lost the skyline... i'll check it out!

And you were totally right about me not getting your subtle allusions before lol! Just went back and noticed it :P (I didnt even notice you posted the Normal video...)

[Tyler___Durden]

Outsourcing. Nice.
Don't forget that it also costs money to fly there, stay in a hotel, eat...
And the number one cause of death in Thailand for people under 50,
is AIDS.
For escorts (especially Trans escorts) the % who are HIV+
is much higher than the high levels in the general population.
To anyone considering going to Thailand for Pay-sex,
use condoms as you are at a huge risk of catching HIV.

[ImmerGeil]

Sad but true.Thanks to the bareback supporters.As if it is'nt already enough to suck or get suck without a rubber.


Lots of this men are pensioners who have most of their life behind them so they take the risk and don't give a fuck about anything.



To avoid HIV i recommend not to swallow.There has also been cases of HIV infection after getting a tattoo in Thailand.


Offtopic:Are you the hottie on the avatar picture?

[rasta]

this is funny and i have no opinion on it.. but the thing is. that..
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO Be attracted to ts girls and not really have any way to interact.. thanks to seanchai for helping create the porn niche.. so we have some way to cope with desire. but in reality, in real life.. being attracted is in some ways as difficult as being a t. maybe not as much, but the fact is.. we can have straight relationships but must lie to our partner about what we really feel. that sucks.. i dont want to lie to anyone.. the world is retarded and there is so much hate and stupidity that needs to just totally burn down and start over....

[danthepoetman]

If there is one beautiful thing about transsexual women, it’s their desire for femininity. We live in a society where it sometimes seems like women don’t want to be women anymore. As if at some point, values of the feminine had been put in doubt and question to its very limit. I grew up in such an era and to me it was just baffling! As a male who knows what and who you are, you sometimes don’t know how to react or behave in such a society. With t-women, you have beings who feel they are women and want to be women down to the very fibber of themselves. They express femininity to its absolute fullest and without any restraint. That in itself, to me, is moving, admirable and beautiful. And it certainly plays not only a role in the attraction I started to have for t-ladies, but also in the fact that I never would renounce that attraction.
I suppose the way I expressed this is a bit clumsy or corny, but it is what I feel.

[Tyler___Durden]

To avoid HIV i recommend not to swallow.There has also been cases of HIV infection after getting a tattoo in Thailand.


Offtopic:Are you the hottie on the avatar picture?

The current advice from my Genitourinary Medicine (GUM) Clinic (http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/972.aspx?CategoryID=68&SubCategoryID=153) (They know I escort) is to:

Use a condom when giving oral sex
If not using a condom, avoid client ejaculating in my mouth
If ejaculation occurs it is better to swallow that spit.
The reasoning is that an entrance area for the HIV virus is through any micro abrasions in the mouth gums*.
Spitting makes the ejaculate wash over this vulnerable area.
While swallowing is far less risky because the HIV virus id fragile and stomach acids destroy it.
Enzymes in the mouth do too, though less effectively.


*Abrasions are often caused by teeth brushing.
This is why brushing your teeth should not be done for two hours before and one hour after giving uncovered oral sex.

Yep that's me in the pic. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/happyyes.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[jamesedwards]

lol freddy is a dam fool lol

[buckjohnson]

Why fly to Thaiiland where age, hiv status, and volutariness are in question. I love American TG's (with one international exception). American girls are sexy, funny, charming, smart and just crazy enough to make things interesting.

[Schimmel]

this is funny and i have no opinion on it.. but the thing is. that..
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO Be attracted to ts girls and not really have any way to interact.. thanks to seanchai for helping create the porn niche.. so we have some way to cope with desire. but in reality, in real life.. being attracted is in some ways as difficult as being a t. maybe not as much, but the fact is.. we can have straight relationships but must lie to our partner about what we really feel. that sucks.. i dont want to lie to anyone.. the world is retarded and there is so much hate and stupidity that needs to just totally burn down and start over....
I wouldn't go that far, but I agree with the first half.


Why fly to Thaiiland where age, hiv status, and volutariness are in question. I love American TG's (with one international exception). American girls are sexy, funny, charming, smart and just crazy enough to make things interesting.
Do you really believe that? I won't even explain it to you. Thailand rules.

[buckjohnson]

Well I admit I do not have your life exp. I have never flown overseass (fear of flying). But I worry about sex slavery and sex traffic in Thailand.
I wouldn't go that far, but I agree with the first half.


Do you really believe that? I won't even explain it to you. Thailand rules.

[Schimmel]

Well I admit I do not have your life exp. I have never flown overseass (fear of flying). But I worry about sex slavery and sex traffic in Thailand.
I know nothing of sex slavery and sex traffic in Thailand, therefore I don't worry about it. Must be lucky in that I have never come across such things there. Hey sometimes journalists need a good humanity story to boost their popularity, and foreign sex slavery is always a good go-to; I suppose one can always dig up some kind of dirt if they look hard enough. I only know that when I go from Suvarnabhumi airport into the muggy depths of Bangkok, I must quickly alter my mindset in order to fit snugly into the unhindered joys and unrelenting visual stimuli that lay ahead. The concrete jungle will be unforgiving in its showers of excitement and daily foot massages and pokes from girls on the streets. I share your fear of flying, but I drink the whole way (free of charge of course, depending which airline), and that takes the edge off of any nerve rattling air turbulence episodes and claustrophobic what-nots.

I agree American tgirls are sexy, funny, charming, smart, crazy. Down-to-earth, hot as fuck, friendly. But there are those other American things that are sometimes part of the package... entitlement, self-described divas and egos, "wish lists" lmfao, that's enough for me. Thailand all the way.

[tsadriana]

Is Freddie alive yet?

[buckjohnson]

I feel you!!!
i know nothing of sex slavery and sex traffic in thailand, therefore i don't worry about it. Must be lucky in that i have never come across such things there. Hey sometimes journalists need a good humanity story to boost their popularity, and foreign sex slavery is always a good go-to; i suppose one can always dig up some kind of dirt if they look hard enough. I only know that when i go from suvarnabhumi airport into the muggy depths of bangkok, i must quickly alter my mindset in order to fit snugly into the unhindered joys and unrelenting visual stimuli that lay ahead. The concrete jungle will be unforgiving in its showers of excitement and daily foot massages and pokes from girls on the streets. I share your fear of flying, but i drink the whole way (free of charge of course, depending which airline), and that takes the edge off of any nerve rattling air turbulence episodes and claustrophobic what-nots.

I agree american tgirls are sexy, funny, charming, smart, crazy. Down-to-earth, hot as fuck, friendly. But there are those other american things that are sometimes part of the package... Entitlement, self-described divas and egos, "wish lists" lmfao, that's enough for me. Thailand all the way.

[ImmerGeil]

Why fly to Thailand where age, hiv status, and volutariness are in question. I love American TG's (with one international exception). American girls are sexy, funny, charming, smart and just crazy enough to make things interesting.

1:Like i said because it' much cheaper.you can fuck everyday a T/girl all night long and spend in one month less than 2000 $ for it.Where you can have that low prices in western countries?If I would spend a month with Ana Mancini or Jennifer Paris i would spent 240000-300000 $.I don't want to spend all my money for a few hours with some ecorts.



2.Sexual Slavery and underage girls exists in every country of the world.In poor countries there are of course more of it.In Cambodia there are a lot of sexual and underage slaves beaten by their female pimps which were former prostitues.you have to consider that many thai girls who are 18 or 20 looks younger than western girls so you could think they're underage,



3.Hivrate is higher than in Europe or Usa but if you don't let sperm in your mouth or barebacking you are home dry.If you want to be 100% sure use a rubber when the girl blows you or you her . There are millons of sextourists and there isn't an aids epidemic caused by them.




4.And Thai girls aren't sexy,funny and interesting?The Mentality of Thais are different than the western .In my opinion it's very interesting to make contact with a complete different mentality.They're more shy and not as extrovert like americans.But they're very relaxed people who enjoy their lives and like to have fun.I've only made good experiences with thais.None of them were arrogant as some white or latina escorts I met.

[amberskyi]

Wow, generalities much

[ImmerGeil]

What's so bad about generalities?If they're useful to answer questions based on prejudices about a foreign country.

[Schimmel]

I feel you!!!
Thanks Buck. Just had to stick up for Thailand ; )


4.And Thai girls aren't sexy,funny and interesting?The Mentality of Thais are different than the western .In my opinion it's very interesting to make contact with a complete different mentality.They're more shy and not as extrovert like americans.But they're very relaxed people who enjoy their lives and like to have fun.I've only made good experiences with thais.None of them were arrogant as some white or latina escorts I met.
Thai LBs are awesome. HIlarious really. Find a hotel in the right spot and they are always just a hop skip and jump away. Hanging out in the streets, always looking good, and they will always give you the look to see if you're interested. Lotsa personality, I actually find them pretty extroverted for most part, same as Thai G-girls. Clean, always showering and grooming. And if you run out of something up in the hotel room, they'll throw on their pants/skirt/shorts and run out to the store for you and be right back..

[brickcitybrother]

The current advice from my Genitourinary Medicine (GUM) Clinic (http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/972.aspx?CategoryID=68&SubCategoryID=153) (They know I escort) is to:

Use a condom when giving oral sex
If not using a condom, avoid client ejaculating in my mouth
If ejaculation occurs it is better to swallow that spit.
The reasoning is that an entrance area for the HIV virus is through any micro abrasions in the mouth gums*.
Spitting makes the ejaculate wash over this vulnerable area.
While swallowing is far less risky because the HIV virus id fragile and stomach acids destroy it.
Enzymes in the mouth do too, though less effectively.


*Abrasions are often caused by teeth brushing.
This is why brushing your teeth should not be done for two hours before and one hour after giving uncovered oral sex.

Yep that's me in the pic. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/happyyes.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Oh ok ... that's very interesting. Have not heard that its better to swallow than to spit. That could be useful information.

[natina]

I can not believe this hread has gotten 9k views

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[catherinefan]

Wait...

My hair is black, and wavy down to my tailbone, but last I checked it was real hair, no extensions or wigs...

Not only that, it's also just as lovely as any gg Filipina's hair I've seen.
Needless to say, that goes for your pretty face too!

[jamesedwards]

Ok Gomez, I hear you on what you are saying, your main points are 1. HOTNESS 2. FREE SEX.

If this is your decision you have that right to do so. Now there are a lot of hot TGirls, but as you said you must pay, but I have know at least, say.............,,,, 10 that work regular jobs and like to sex because they are horny like no other and it's free as you would say. But on the part of that, me dealing with them, I would buy them dinner, hang out, cook for them, buy them little things like you would a GG, it wasn't 100% free but more less 97.8% free because I wanted do a lil summin summin for them. I know two paid TGirls who I didn't pay as a client because I was/am their personal fuck buddy and sex toy on the side.

But with a GG you will pay some where down the line, it's not totally free. But if you feel better with a GG and spend way less money and that's good for you, by all means that's your right bro.







Sure some TS are hot, but there are hundreds of genetic chicks for every 1 hot TS.

Why bother with some ts chick who expects to get paid to fuck her when an even hotter genetic chick will let u smash for free?

Do you get what I'm saying?

Is liking ts really that serious?