First ladies of transsexuality

[txsam]

US's Christine Jorgensen circa 1953:

http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2011/05/12/513saha26_t653.JPG?214bc4f9d9bd7c08c7d0f6599bb3328 710e01e7b

Denmark's Lili Elbe in the mid- to late- 1920's:

http://stat.ks.kidsklik.com/files/2010/04/lily_elbe_edited.jpg

Uk's Roberta Cowell in the mid 1950's:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jI4tbWBBEHA/TWc-Fi63ueI/AAAAAAAAAPw/raRIuxKGQGQ/s320/roberta.jpg

Just food for thought, and a tribute to strong TS trailblazers around the world.

[Prospero]

April Ashley - UK 1950s
www.april-ashley.com

[txsam]

thanks for the contribution, Prospero. I'm actually surprised at these girls looks, medicine/science being what it was 60+ years ago.

[N.O.Kayla]

Great thread thanks for sharing :)

[JenniferParisHusband]

April Ashley, just amazing. I've always loved the way she looked. I've got a thing for the early ladies though. Let me add some to the list....

The first 3 are all Bambi, next is Baby Mitchel, Hans Crystal, and three of Holli White.

You could...and probably should add Cochinelle to this list too, although I can't find the pictures I have of her at this moment. The very early entertainers also pioneered the way for many of today's ladies too.

[GroobyKrissy]

Who are all these old people? Just kidding. Interesting to see... I had no idea there was life before Olivia Love (who I'm not calling old... she was just the first TS that I ever saw on film).

[arena95]

pioneer kim christy cannot fail in this thread!

[jdlo56]

not to add to the debate...but is amanda lear a tranny?!?!

[Steve-Oh]

Dr Renee Richards who had her sex change in the late 70's.

http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/MZ28405_P-RR-A7_012-scr.jpg

[SugaSweet]

Wendy Carlos of Hooked on Bach fame.

[SuperToaster]

Wow! These are really neat. April Ashley is especially stunning.

[Prospero]

Walter to Wendy

[Prospero]

And of course the legendary Andy Warhol superstar Candy Darling. Did she actually have surgery?

Candy Darling in Flesh - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZGkLtJhHEw&feature=player_embedded)

[JenniferParisHusband]

Wendy Carlos did an incredible version of Peter & The Wolf with Weird Al Yankovic of all people. I must have gone through three cassettes of that back in the 80's.

[martin48]

Here's some oldies

[brickcitybrother]

Wow ... I knew that there was 'historic' porn ... but didn't think or imagine and that there would be such porn showing transsexuals.

[Prospero]

I'm not sure if transexuals i what you'd call the boys in frocks posted by Martin. Interesting porn though. I wonder if there were shemales on the walls of the brothels of Pompeii?

[martin48]

OK - bit older - this is circa 1st century A.D

[iago_delgado]

pioneer kim christy cannot fail in this thread!

Delicious!

[bassman2546]

Cool thread. Thanks to all who posted. Very interesting.

[arena95]

Delicious!

thanks, glad you like them!

[frankc]

great pics...just love kim kristy..one of my all time fav's..

[Prospero]

I'll not argue with that greek statue. Intriguing.

[JenniferParisHusband]

Any thread dealing with Kim Christy needs the obligatory cock pic. So, here we go... and, you're welcome!

[Merkurie]

Can you believe i have never seen Kim Christie's cock before. All I had seen were her pin up fetish shots like above. I remember I was never convinced she was not a GG.
Now I am convinced, thanks.

[Merkurie]

Carolyn Cossey
http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/c/carolinecossey_36333-1152x864.jpg
Modeled for Vogue, Bazaar, Playboy and was a James Bond extra in "For Your Eyes Only".

[txsam]

Thanks everyone for the photos and info! I absolutely love the style and look of the 50's, 60's, and 70's so, naturally I love these ladies.

Other 'firsts'

First TS mayor, Georgina Beyer of New Zealand:

http://www.alycefaye.com/CENTRAL/Georgina%20Beyer.jpg

First Member of Parliment, Anna Grodzka of Poland:

http://polki.pl/work/privateimages/formats/V5_MT_LIFE/103096.jpg

First military Ofc. (UK), Jan Hamilton of the United Kingdom:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_02/JHamiltonMOS1507_468x707.jpg

[JenniferParisHusband]

Caroline Cossey is seriously one of the hottest ladies ever!!! Plus, she got my teenage ass to read her book, that was certainly ground-breaking.... she also got teenage me to get a fake ID so I could buy her issue of Playboy. So there's that too.

[JenniferParisHusband]

Can you believe i have never seen Kim Christie's cock before. All I had seen were her pin up fetish shots like above. I remember I was never convinced she was not a GG.
Now I am convinced, thanks.

I'm still not 100% certain Roberta Close was not born a GG either. But I love what I've seen of her.

[arena95]

coccinelle and vintage mag. cover

[martin48]

some more - little changes

[txsam]

More firsts for TS women:

first presidential appointee, Amanda Simpson:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID28142/images/resized_Kimberly_Reed_Oprah_Winfrey_Show_transgend er_woman_sex_change_operation.jpg

first actress to have a ts character/role, Candis Cayne:

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03/candiscayne_450x300.jpg

And of course, first Miss Universe competitor, Jenna Talackova:

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120528/jenna-talackova-300.jpg

[alpha2117]

I'm not sure if transexuals i what you'd call the boys in frocks posted by Martin. Interesting porn though. I wonder if there were shemales on the walls of the brothels of Pompeii?

The word Hermaphrodite comes from an ancient Greek legend where Hermes & Aphrodite's son was one.

In Ancient Greece 1 in 50 to 100 people were rumored to be in some way hermaphroditic. Many people have pseudohermaphroditism where the sex organs are of one sex but some external characteristics are of the other sex. So extremly feminine men or masculine women. Men who developed breasts, women who grew facial hair etc etc.

Modern medicine corrects many birth defects straight away so you see much less people with webbed feet or 6 fingers etc but birth irregularities are actually pretty common. One that is often fixed is male genitalia as well as female genatalia on babies. In general we probably aren't as aware of the likelyhood of some level of irregularity in our offspring as people were in the past.

So the legend of Hermaphroditicus was probably just the Greek way of being inclusive of those individuals in the whole of Greek Society.

A whole series of Egyptian Pharoah's were portrayed with both male and female characteristics and it should be noted that the line died out shortly after as they did not produce offspring. It's possible given the whole marrying their sister thing led to recessive genetic hermaphroditism manifested in their line and they simply became sterile hermaphrodites.

It's not unusual in artwork, and statues from the ancient world to see a mix of sexual characteristics in the same individual. Smaller populations and more inbreeding was likely to have increased the likelyhood of these birth irregularities and the same situations occured in Ancient Rome - Caligula going mad, Claudius's various defects etc were largely down to the 12 families of Roman aristocracy inbreeding for generations.

So yeah in all likelyhood ancient Romans and Greeks would have both portrayed these individuals in art including art in Brothels but may well have also had them working in them too.

[luvsbigass]

Very cool to see the history. As usual there is nothing new under the sun,but what has change and changing everyday is the thoughts and ideas of what gender & sexuality is.

[NYCTSluv]

Great history. Great thread

[JenniferParisHusband]

Just found a very interesting web-site, has a lot of information and history.

http://zagria.blogspot.com/

[martin48]

Nice shots of Ginger

[Helen41]

More firsts for TS women:

first presidential appointee, Amanda Simpson:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID28142/images/resized_Kimberly_Reed_Oprah_Winfrey_Show_transgend er_woman_sex_change_operation.jpg

first actress to have a ts character/role, Candis Cayne:

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03/candiscayne_450x300.jpg

And of course, first Miss Universe competitor, Jenna Talackova:

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120528/jenna-talackova-300.jpg
That's not Amanda Simpson in that shot. It's Kimberley Reed, the former Paul McKerrow.

[txsam]

That's not Amanda Simpson in that shot. It's Kimberley Reed, the former Paul McKerrow.

oh, thanks for the heads up:) BTW, Kimberly Reed has an inspiring story as well:)

Amanda Simpson correction:

http://www.alan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/228-265x300.jpg

[martin48]

Nothing new - mainly Roman 1st and 2rd century

[danthepoetman]

Here's a few I found. All cabaret "female impersonnators". In order, Coccinelle, Capucine, Holy White, Toby Marsh and Terry Noel. All lovely. Some of them transitioned, some didn't, but hey! they all looked so beautiful it's almost beyond belief...

[JenniferParisHusband]

Hey Dan, who is the "Jean" in the photo that follows Holly White? I've never seen her before. Hopefully there are more pics of her out there. I've been on a classic kick lately.

[up_for_it]

Great thread!!

[danthepoetman]

Hey Dan, who is the "Jean" in the photo that follows Holly White? I've never seen her before. Hopefully there are more pics of her out there. I've been on a classic kick lately.

I think in fact, even if the pic is entitled “Jean”, it’s the same person as in the next one, it’s Toby Marsh. Incredible pair of legs! Can you believe how beautiful they were? We’re talking the 50s and 60s. They were all amongst the first to take hormones regularly for those who did…

[danthepoetman]

Here’s a few more: Hans Christian (2), Tammy Monroe, Ray Lean, Randy Taylor, Holy White and Coccinelle.

[JenniferParisHusband]

I officially love this thread. Great posts. Thanks all.

[danthepoetman]

I don't have any name for several of those, unfortunately. The third, fourth and fifth are Kim Christie, the sixth is Olympia.

[beatlephil]

I don't have any name for several of those, unfortunately. The third, fourth and fifth are Kim Christie, the sixth is Olympia.

The only name I've seen for the first two pictures is "Robin Roberts", and I saw that in an old issue of Female Mimics International published by Kim Christy. But I sure would like the know the names of the last two ladies and are they still with us?

[danthepoetman]

Thanks, Beatlephil. Yeap, I would too... Aren't they all lovely?

[Prospero]

Glad I was not in active mode in the 1950s and 1960s. Today is better.