View Full Version : Will there ever be a crossover Transsexual pornstar?
TSPornFan
07-02-2012, 09:15 PM
A crossover pornstar is someone who works in gay and straight porn. No transsexual pornstar has appeared in a sex scene for a straight porno flick. Some people said that Kimber James would be the first and it never happen. I thought Bailey Jay had a chance but she doesn't perform regular hardcore scenes.
American Transsexuals are becoming more pastable by the second.
The only current girl I can think of having a chance is Sarina Valentina.
GroobySteven
07-02-2012, 09:17 PM
In the near future, not for more than a curiousity. She'll always be promoted as a tgirl either for the surprise effect or even worse, comedy.
Once TS's are more visible in mainstream entertainment, you may expect to see one.
TSPornFan
07-02-2012, 09:22 PM
In the near future, not for more than a curiousity. She'll always be promoted as a tgirl either for the surprise effect or even worse, comedy.
Once TS's are more visible in mainstream entertainment, you may expect to see one.
Do you have any girls in mind who can fit the role?
LibertyHarkness
07-02-2012, 09:25 PM
are you saying franklin you havnt seen a TS appear on a non TS porn site ? if so there is a few TS that have appeared on straight sites, aka non TS Sites ..
Joanna Jet, myself, holly harlow to name 3 ...
SammiValentine
07-02-2012, 09:25 PM
Yup would love to see trans characters intergrated into our fave dramas, sitcoms, films and not as a joke role. Actually as a human being,someone cool, brave, witty, someone that people can look at a proper character, a lead role, they can watch it and realise we are just normal people, encourage acceptance with your average sconehead.
TSPornFan
07-02-2012, 09:30 PM
are you saying franklin you havnt seen a TS appear on a non TS porn site ? if so there is a few TS that have appeared on straight sites, aka non TS Sites ..
Joanna Jet, myself, holly harlow to name 3 ...
I have not seen any TS women in sex scenes for straight sites or straight DVDs. Kimber James's appearance in Everyone Hates Children doesn't count. She didn't have sex.
Having sex with a GG doesn't count. Official pornstar sites have straight, gay and TS content. I am talking about a site or network such as Naughty America or Brazzers shooting a TS woman for a site such as Naughty Office(Naughty America site) and the TS has sex with a man.
Wendy Summers
07-02-2012, 09:44 PM
I have not seen any TS women in sex scenes for straight sites or straight DVDs. Kimber James's appearance in Everyone Hates Children doesn't count. She didn't have sex.
Having sex with a GG doesn't count. Official pornstar sites have straight, gay and TS content. I am talking about a site or network such as Naughty America or Brazzers shooting a TS woman for a site such as Naughty Office(Naughty America site) and the TS has sex with a man.
I'm assuming you also mean a pre-op TS?
Mainstream porn isn't ready for it. Likely it'll happen in Europe first given how Libby, Joanna and Holly are having great success breaking down barriers.
In the US, watch for the first sea change to happen in the fetish markets... it won't be porn per se, but that market is ready for some cross-over performers. That'll happen in the US long before the type of porn you are describing.
GroobySteven
07-02-2012, 09:45 PM
Do you have any girls in mind who can fit the role?
They're not active yet.
smoothboi
07-02-2012, 09:50 PM
I said this before, but it would be great if a site like kink.com hired tgirls for the stuff like devicebongage or fuckingmachines, etc., in addition to what they have now.
LibertyHarkness
07-02-2012, 09:58 PM
franklin myself, joannajet, holly harlow have appeared on uk straight sites . television X, there is a number of uk sites that will shoot TS with male or female for their straight sites ..albit we dont have network sites as such like Brazzers ... though killergram is close i guess but they dont shoot ts ..
I am about to shoot 2 scenes for 2 quite big UK straight sites. they dont represent any TS models before ...albit they are putting me with a female , well one of them is putting me with 2 females :)
I think the UK/EU is much more tolerant and open minded than the USA in shooting TS on straight sites/dvds etc much like models willing to work with TS seem to be more open ..
personally if one of the big usa networks whack a tranny on a straight themed site , it iwll be a TS / Female scene as it will be less "gay" for the masses to comprehend .
Probably find the EU network site 21st Sextury will put TS on their straight sites before NA/Brazzers/RK/BB will ever do ..
BluegrassCat
07-02-2012, 10:26 PM
No transsexual pornstar has appeared in a sex scene for a straight porno flick...
Having sex with a GG doesn't count.
Doesn't it become a transsexual porn as soon as a tg is involved? How can a studio label a dvd as straight porn when there's a dude nailing a tg on it? People like to know what they're getting. It's like asking when will they put grandma porn in the middle of a straight dvd, or pregnant or whatever niche you're into. Labels are very useful for this business.
GroobySteven
07-02-2012, 10:58 PM
I think the point he's making is when they will just be there as a star and not a transsexual, you're right Cat, people like to know what they're getting which is why I said it will never happen until tgirls become extremely more accepted in mainstream non-porn.
Jamie French
07-03-2012, 12:36 AM
It's not going to happen ever. It's like asking when Pizza Hut is going to put gyros on their menu. Both are awesome foods but they don't make since together on the same chain restaurant menu. Even if everyone in America thought gyros were awesome, Pizza Hut wouldn't offer them any more than they would offer swordfish or snickers bars. It has nothing to do with acceptance.
bob.chicken
07-03-2012, 12:40 AM
Doesn't it become a transsexual porn as soon as a tg is involved? How can a studio label a dvd as straight porn when there's a dude nailing a tg on it? People like to know what they're getting. It's like asking when will they put grandma porn in the middle of a straight dvd, or pregnant or whatever niche you're into. Labels are very useful for this business.
this is what I was thinking. Maybe you need 'inside knowledge' of the industry to understand what occurs behind scenes but as a consumer I don;t understand how a ts can do straight porn. It's like having 2 men and calling it straight porn. Or 2 whites and calling it interracial
LibertyHarkness
07-03-2012, 12:45 AM
so what about when a TS shoots with a Female ? if your putting TS on Male akin to Gay Porn basically ... then surely on the same note TS on Female is straight porn ?
bob.chicken
07-03-2012, 12:53 AM
so what about when a TS shoots with a Female ? if your putting TS on Male akin to Gay Porn basically ... then surely on the same note TS on Female is straight porn ?
but there is loads of ts and female videos that's not really new. I probably just don't understand the thread title:
"Will there ever be a crossover Transsexual pornstar?"
What would a ts have to do to "crossover"
BluegrassCat
07-03-2012, 12:54 AM
so what about when a TS shoots with a Female ? if your putting TS on Male akin to Gay Porn basically ... then surely on the same note TS on Female is straight porn ?
Sure, TS on GG is straighter cuz there's no sword-crossing but Franklin ruled it out, probably for that reason. I think it's really about whether people are turned on by TS or not. If you have a 6 scene "straight" DVD and but one scene has a TS performer, some people will think it's too much TS and some will think it's not enough, so you've managed to disappoint everyone.
bob.chicken
07-03-2012, 01:02 AM
Sure, TS on GG is straighter cuz there's no sword-crossing but Franklin ruled it out, probably for that reason. I think it's really about whether people are turned on by TS or not. If you have a 6 scene "straight" DVD and but one scene has a TS performer, some people will think it's too much TS and some will think it's not enough, so you've managed to disappoint everyone.
Maybe the thread starter means when will there be websites in mainstreamm like Brazzers include ts girls within the categories as they would gg.
IE Mommygotboobs, bigwetbutts, Milfslikeitbig etc. to have ts girls in some scenes without being labelled a "ts" video,
I don't think it will happen though
LibertyHarkness
07-03-2012, 01:03 AM
bob i was referring to your statement about 2 guys, 2 white people etc . i was using the TS on Female as a comparrision to what you stated .
Token Williams-Black
07-03-2012, 01:22 AM
Won't happen in America because we're too prudish...even when it comes to porn.
Nowhere
07-03-2012, 01:23 AM
I think it's on the cusp of starting in Europe in those videos where you have the guy, girl and tgirl or girl, girl and tgirl in a group thing. That way people can just be 'kinky' and not fully question their sexuality. Anyway, the more mainstreamed outside of porn, the morn mainstreamed in porn it'll be. Give it time and it'll happen.
P.S. Plenty of guys slip up and give away how they look at tporn every day. Way too much jokes and laughing at things like Yasmin Lee in "The Hangover 2" or knowledge about things in porn are the easiest. Believe me, once it's seen as "ok" or "just a little perverted" and they'll be all cool about it, since, after all, they genuinely do like it...
NJfan
07-03-2012, 04:46 AM
Isn't Evil Angel a straight porn site?
http://html.sxx.com/2/128/pics/5329/nude/153_c1848_01.html?pr=8&su=1&ad=10566
onmyknees
07-03-2012, 05:06 AM
A crossover pornstar is someone who works in gay and straight porn. No transsexual pornstar has appeared in a sex scene for a straight porno flick. Some people said that Kimber James would be the first and it never happen. I thought Bailey Jay had a chance but she doesn't perform regular hardcore scenes.
American Transsexuals are becoming more pastable by the second.
The only current girl I can think of having a chance is Sarina Valentina.
I have no idea...and haven't thought that much about it really. I enjoy porn...and don't obsess over it. I understand this is a porn-centric forum, but wouldn't it be a more profound question to ask when will a TS have a role in a mainstream sitcom (and not The Cake Boss) or motion picture or in the business world or fashion or medicine? It occurs to me when those roles are filled, that will be far more noteworthy.....no disrespect to the TS ladies who make porn....I wish them all the opportunities possible.
Queens Guy
07-03-2012, 05:18 AM
Does anybody actually watch a porn movie anymore? From start to finish?
The internet is the way we get to porn now. We mostly go looking for a scene, not a whole movie. We start out knowing what performer or at least what type of porn we're interested in. We may go to a TS porn site and then browse for a scene to watch.
If TS actresses are going to cross over to 'straight' porn, I think it will be through scenes that start out like a 'lesbian' scene, but then it turns out that one of the 'lesbians' is, surprise, surprise, a TS.
TSPornFan
07-03-2012, 05:59 AM
Does anybody actually watch a porn movie anymore? From start to finish?
The internet is the way we get to porn now. We mostly go looking for a scene, not a whole movie. We start out knowing what performer or at least what type of porn we're interested in. We may go to a TS porn site and then browse for a scene to watch.
If TS actresses are going to cross over to 'straight' porn, I think it will be through scenes that start out like a 'lesbian' scene, but then it turns out that one of the 'lesbians' is, surprise, surprise, a TS.
I watch scenes from start to finish.
Teydyn
07-03-2012, 09:02 AM
"Finish" doesnt have mean to mean "end" though :D
And TS will probably never do crossover. Why should someone not into TS want to watch TS? How often do you see the "hate" in TS porn when its guy-guy-ts and the guys start to play with each other? I dont want to see that either. IF i would, i could watch gay porn...
ballzNnutz
07-03-2012, 09:25 AM
vicky richter and danielle fox was in one of belladonnas fetich fanatic movies. does that count?
smoothboi
07-03-2012, 07:29 PM
Won't happen in America because we're too prudish...even when it comes to porn.
So true, but hilariously ironic in a way because most so-called straight porn is so massively cock focused and homoerotic.
What if it's anal themed porn? Would guys really care if it was a hot tgirl taking a big cock in her ass?
terrygrooby
07-03-2012, 09:50 PM
mistake, don't pay attention
Murderous-marge
07-03-2012, 10:20 PM
Transsexual porn isn't straight porn unless she is post op, two dicks no matter if she is bottoming or not is a homosexual act. I don't get how you people are so stupid.
Teydyn
07-03-2012, 10:38 PM
Homosexual is 2 man (or 2 women). A Tgirl is a woman. How can it be homosexual? I take the person over their genitalia...
How can you be so stupid...
smoothboi
07-03-2012, 10:46 PM
I think the point of the original question is, could there be an eventual tipping point in porn where if the girl is tg or gg would it matter? It's not a stretch to say a hell of a lot more guys watch tgirl porn than actually admit it. And I would defy any horny guy that likes to fuck to not be turned on watching a hottie like Celeste.
And like I said, so-called "mainstream" porn is massively cock focused as it is. I mean, dudes are rubbing cocks together in double anal or sliding over each other when there's a DP scene.
Murderous-marge
07-04-2012, 01:12 AM
Homosexual is 2 man (or 2 women). A Tgirl is a woman. How can it be homosexual? I take the person over their genitalia...
How can you be so stupid...
Homosexuality has to do with being attracted to one of the same sex not gender you nitwit. Why don't you actually look at a dictionary for once in your life?
nightshift
07-04-2012, 03:51 AM
Maybe in Europe. I think a lot of American's are too hung up about sexuality, or just live in the closet about it. BTW, I'm red, white, and blue. Just not hung up about anything.
Murderous-marge
07-04-2012, 05:59 AM
I think the point of the original question is, could there be an eventual tipping point in porn where if the girl is tg or gg would it matter? It's not a stretch to say a hell of a lot more guys watch tgirl porn than actually admit it. And I would defy any horny guy that likes to fuck to not be turned on watching a hottie like Celeste.
And like I said, so-called "mainstream" porn is massively cock focused as it is. I mean, dudes are rubbing cocks together in double anal or sliding over each other when there's a DP scene.
That's a lie some people just are not attracted to dick, just like not all gay men or females or ts's find ftms appealing when they take off their boxers. Some people are ONLY attracted to one sex.
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