Man..........I Miss This Guy

[onmyknees]

Maybe this is his way of evening the score on what Obama's goons did to him and Hillary in 2007/08 or maybe he understands what being a governor means in terms of experience, or maybe he likes flying around with all his venture capitol buddies, but either way Slick Willie momentarily left the reservation......First Corey Booker, now Slick Willie...Can Debbie Downer and Queen Nancy be far behind? And if that occurs........what then? lol

Via Politico (http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/05/clinton-romneys-business-record-sterling-124980.html):

President Bill Clinton veered sharply off message Thursday, telling CNN that Mitt Romney’s business record at Bain Capital was “sterling.”
“I don’t think that we ought to get into the position where we say ‘This is bad work. This is good work,’” Clinton said. “The man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold.”
Clinton also went on to say that Romney’s time at Bain Capital represented a “good business career.”
The Obama campaign is in the third week of an all-out assault on Romney’s time as a corporate buyout specialist — accusing the GOP nominee of bankrupting companies and laying off workers all while pocketing a profit for himself and investors.
But the negative tenor of their attacks on an influential segment of Wall Street have made some Democrats uncomfortable. Clinton is the highest profile Obama surrogate so far to show discomfort with the attacks on Bain, with the former president even praising the company and Romney’s record. Newark mayor Cory Booker and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick also both declined to press the attack against Bain.

[trish]

"left the reservation" WTF? Another OMK approved hate filled racist metaphor. But speaking of veering from the course, did anyone get of load of Donald Trump this week? Wow!!?

[hippifried]

"bloviating ignoramus"

[Stavros]

“I don’t think that we ought to get into the position where we say ‘This is bad work. This is good work,’” Clinton said. “The man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold.”
It does raise a question -what does the qualification threshold look like? I seem to recall Ross Perot arguing in BC's first campaign that if the USA were to adopt the employment/investment policy Governor Clinton had sponsored in Arkansas, we'd all be plucking chickens...and I recall that it was Jimmy Carter's record of NOT being a beltway politician that gave him the White House in 1976...I am not an American and have no vote, but I wonder if Americans have a list of the qualifications they think their President should have -born dirt poor, wins scholarship to Ivy League university, becomes lawyer or runs his own business or goes to Westpoint, distinguished career at the bar, in the military, in high finance, or ran a supermarket. I guess you should start with: can read and write...but what comes next, I do not know. Ignorance of foreign policy is clearly no barrier to high office.

[trish]

The question Romney raises is what counts as a qualification. He claims his job at Bain Capital qualifies him to raise the nation out of debt and reduce unemployment. He does more than suggest his job has given him the appropriate knowledge of the financial and economic issues; he suggests that the job of saving companies as a private equity investor is analogous to the job of raising a nation up out of a repression. Is it? Recent Democratic Party ads argue the answer is "No." However, Clinton argues that such counter ads sound like general attacks on private equity firms and warns that they are not poltically strategic (and indeed the GOP has twisted their message claiming them to be socialist attacks on capitalism).

It's easier to see what isn't a qualification (like wearing magic underwear or strapping your dog to the roof of your car, or sampling dog meat as a pre-teenage boy in a foreign country, or breaking a client company for profit) than to see what is a qualification (saving a client companies through restructuring their design, purpose, financing, personnel, benefit programs, pay etc., or helping impoverished families through community organizing). Its even harder to make a relatively complete list of the qualities that are necessary for the job of president (speak English, own two to five homes at least one with a car elevator, have at least one picture id book cover that claims you were born in another country., believe in a supernatural sky god, hold your hand over your heart when saying the pledge, wear a flag lapel button, carry a tune, pass the Turing Test...).

[Stavros]

Yes indeed, Trish, and some things which seem odd to me but which could start a row over there: eg, not wearing a fridge magnet on your lapels, putting the hand over the heart when listening to the national anthem-would it mean the person in some way was less patriotic than the one with it all? Romney in one of those debates said that only someone who had run a business could run a country, which would have ruled out Eisenhower and Kennedy, for example. I don't in truth know what a list might look like, but one would hope that honesty, integrity, team leadersip, knowing when to compromise would be on it.

In the UK most of our Prime Ministers have been to either Oxford or Cambridge and before that a high-cost fee paying school. Of the ones who had no university education, Winston Churchill had a career in the military, as did James Callaghan (Labour); John Major (Tory) worked in a bank. Gordon Brown went to Edinburgh and eventually got a PhD there (The Labour Party and Political Change in Scotland, 1918-1929). Didn't do him much good in the end.

[onmyknees]

The question Romney raises is what counts as a qualification. He claims his job at Bain Capital qualifies him to raise the nation out of debt and reduce unemployment. He does more than suggest his job has given him the appropriate knowledge of the financial and economic issues; he suggests that the job of saving companies as a private equity investor is analogous to the job of raising a nation up out of a repression. Is it? Recent Democratic Party ads argue the answer is "No." However, Clinton argues that such counter ads sound like general attacks on private equity firms and warns that they are not poltically strategic (and indeed the GOP has twisted their message claiming them to be socialist attacks on capitalism).

It's easier to see what isn't a qualification (like wearing magic underwear or strapping your dog to the roof of your car, or sampling dog meat as a pre-teenage boy in a foreign country, or breaking a client company for profit) than to see what is a qualification (saving a client companies through restructuring their design, purpose, financing, personnel, benefit programs, pay etc., or helping impoverished families through community organizing). Its even harder to make a relatively complete list of the qualities that are necessary for the job of president (speak English, own two to five homes at least one with a car elevator, have at least one picture id book cover that claims you were born in another country., believe in a supernatural sky god, hold your hand over your heart when saying the pledge, wear a flag lapel button, carry a tune, pass the Turing Test...).


It's qualifications you seem to be hung up on? Well I think the data is in...it's empirical, not opinion nor political judgement.
Obama may be well-intentioned, although I question even that.. He may be a fine father. He may have an excellent jump shot. And he may be a first-rate community organizer. But as president, he is simply — and by now almost undeniably — overmatched by economic events. By his own standards – by what he said and by what he promised — he is a failure. Time for him to move back to Chicago and take up residence in that Tony Resko house he stole. Is it too early to start the long good-byes?

[onmyknees]

"left the reservation" WTF? Another OMK approved hate filled racist metaphor. But speaking of veering from the course, did anyone get of load of Donald Trump this week? Wow!!?

No No...You misunderstand once again....I was simlply paying homage to the native american heritage of Taxajawea. ( Known to you non Cherokees as Elizabeth Warren) :dancing:

[trish]

Why should we lend any weight whatsoever to a lying loser who harbors racist hatred toward Native Americans? (And by the way, Elizabeth Warren has the requisite genetic lineage to gain acceptance into the Cherokee tribe should she apply...do the research lazyass).

[Stavros]

It's qualifications you seem to be hung up on? Well I think the data is in...it's empirical, not opinion nor political judgement.
Obama may be well-intentioned, although I question even that.. He may be a fine father. He may have an excellent jump shot. And he may be a first-rate community organizer. But as president, he is simply — and by now almost undeniably — overmatched by economic events. By his own standards – by what he said and by what he promised — he is a failure. Time for him to move back to Chicago and take up residence in that Tony Resko house he stole. Is it too early to start the long good-byes?

Not 'hung up' on qualifications at all -it was Romney who introduced the concept in order to flatter himself; what I was asking is, IF a list of qualifications were to be drawn up, what would be on the list? Looking back on Presidents and Prime Ministers, are there common factors that match, such as service in the armed forces, university affiliation, geographical origin (consider the importance of Virginia to the early roster of US Presidents), and so on. The point would be to answer the question, Can Anyone Become President of the USA? Can Anyone Become Prime Minister of the UK?

[buttslinger]

The Democratic party wanted Hillary! Obama is the people's candidate. Nobody wanted Romney, they SETTLED for him, right Knees?